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Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
GoNewt
()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:51AM
Two national polls released this afternoon show Newt Gingrich jumping to the top of the Republican presidential field, beating or statistically tying Mitt Romney and Herman Cain.
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In a CNN/Opinion Research poll, Gingrich now draws 22 percent of the vote to Romney’s 24 percent, Cain’s 14 percent and Rick Perry’s 12 percent. A Public Policy Polling survey has Gingrich at 28 percent, Cain at 25 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Perry at 6 percent.
There’s obviously quite a bit of variation in those numbers, but the common theme is that the former House speaker is on the upswing.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68316.html#ixzz1dmmMTKdf
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In a CNN/Opinion Research poll, Gingrich now draws 22 percent of the vote to Romney’s 24 percent, Cain’s 14 percent and Rick Perry’s 12 percent. A Public Policy Polling survey has Gingrich at 28 percent, Cain at 25 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Perry at 6 percent.
There’s obviously quite a bit of variation in those numbers, but the common theme is that the former House speaker is on the upswing.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68316.html#ixzz1dmmMTKdf
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:56AM
A great quote from a great man...
If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you know. These things are very real. On the other hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be again dramatically better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.
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If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets, you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you know. These things are very real. On the other hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may be again dramatically better than a male who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
4 more years, II
()
Date: November 15, 2011 09:59AM
Gosh, THAT'S a surprise!
(...)
Next!?
(...)
Next!?
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:11AM
Another great quote from a great man...
Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism in this country that wants to impose its will on the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to use harassment.
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Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism in this country that wants to impose its will on the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to use harassment.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:16AM
The difference between Newt and Cain, or even Romney is that Newt was a known figure already - a lot of people already know about his past. While vetting him more thoroughly may reveal some small details, the fact is he is probably better prepared to answer them, and is a lot smarter than the folks looking to question him. I wouldn't count him out anywhere near as easily as what has happened to Cain. Just the fact that he decided to stay in the race with a limited campaign staff says a lot. What folks may perceive in character flaws will be more than made up for by the fact that the guy can run circles around the opposition - and watching him in a debate with Obama would pretty much seal the deal if he makes it to the nomination.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:20AM
Gingrich may be intelligent, but he is arrogant, unlikeable and prone to taking legitimate arguments and making them sound stupid because of his propensity to try to sound like the smartest guy in the room. Also, don't forget that it was conservatives in the Republican Party who showed him the door in the 90s, not Dems. There was a reason for that and I highly doubt much has changed since then.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:21AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> A great quote from a great man...
>
> If combat means living in a ditch, females have
> biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty
> days because they get infections and they don't
> have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but
> they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men
> are basically little piglets, you drop them in the
> ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you
> know. These things are very real. On the other
> hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class
> cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve
> ships and their rockets, a female may be again
> dramatically better than a male who gets very,
> very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time
> because males are biologically driven to go out
> and hunt giraffes.
So science matters when it involves policy making to prevent global warming & the environment but is dismissed with regards to gender equality in the military.
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> A great quote from a great man...
>
> If combat means living in a ditch, females have
> biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty
> days because they get infections and they don't
> have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but
> they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men
> are basically little piglets, you drop them in the
> ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter, you
> know. These things are very real. On the other
> hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class
> cruiser managing the computer controls for twelve
> ships and their rockets, a female may be again
> dramatically better than a male who gets very,
> very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time
> because males are biologically driven to go out
> and hunt giraffes.
So science matters when it involves policy making to prevent global warming & the environment but is dismissed with regards to gender equality in the military.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:41AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> A great quote from a great man...
>
This is all wiki-quotes has on Newt:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
Obama's is much more extensive - and troubling:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Obama
For instance:
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action. As for the specific question about bombing suspected nuclear sites, I recently introduced S.J.Res.23, which states in part that “any offensive military action taken by the United States against Iran must be explicitly authorized by Congress.”
In response to a question "In what circumstances would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress?"
Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power, December 20, 2007.[6]
...Gibson: And in each instance, when the [capital gains tax] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
Obama: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Interview on ABC News (16 April 2008)
... Our first and immutable commitment must be to the security of Israel, our only true ally in the Middle East and the only democracy,
Chicago Daily Herald (18 October 2004) [1]
There are some who might say that somebody named Barack Obama can’t be elected senator in the state of Illinois. They’re probably the same folks who said that a guy named Rod Blagojevich couldn’t be elected governor of the state of Illinois.
On a campaign trail. [2]
I'm LeBron, baby. I can play on this level. I got some game.
quoted by David Mendell.[3]
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> A great quote from a great man...
>
This is all wiki-quotes has on Newt:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich
Obama's is much more extensive - and troubling:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Obama
For instance:
The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action. As for the specific question about bombing suspected nuclear sites, I recently introduced S.J.Res.23, which states in part that “any offensive military action taken by the United States against Iran must be explicitly authorized by Congress.”
In response to a question "In what circumstances would the president have constitutional authority to bomb Iran without seeking a use-of-force authorization from Congress?"
Boston Globe questionnaire on Executive Power, December 20, 2007.[6]
...Gibson: And in each instance, when the [capital gains tax] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
Obama: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Interview on ABC News (16 April 2008)
... Our first and immutable commitment must be to the security of Israel, our only true ally in the Middle East and the only democracy,
Chicago Daily Herald (18 October 2004) [1]
There are some who might say that somebody named Barack Obama can’t be elected senator in the state of Illinois. They’re probably the same folks who said that a guy named Rod Blagojevich couldn’t be elected governor of the state of Illinois.
On a campaign trail. [2]
I'm LeBron, baby. I can play on this level. I got some game.
quoted by David Mendell.[3]
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:46AM
Sorry, RV. They don't even compare.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:51AM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A great quote from a great man...
> >
> > If combat means living in a ditch, females have
> > biological problems staying in a ditch for
> thirty
> > days because they get infections and they don't
> > have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but
> > they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men
> > are basically little piglets, you drop them in
> the
> > ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter,
> you
> > know. These things are very real. On the other
> > hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class
> > cruiser managing the computer controls for
> twelve
> > ships and their rockets, a female may be again
> > dramatically better than a male who gets very,
> > very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time
> > because males are biologically driven to go out
> > and hunt giraffes.
>
> So science matters when it involves policy making
> to prevent global warming & the environment but is
> dismissed with regards to gender equality in the
> military.
This is really based on science? Do you know what Gingrich's personal chair-sitting to giraffe-hunting ratio is? I would venture to guess it is similar to that of most American males. As for the crusty vagina issue, I don't think our troops have spent 30 days in a ditch in decades. Gingrich obviously doesn't understand modern warfare despite his reference to Aegis-class cruisers.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A great quote from a great man...
> >
> > If combat means living in a ditch, females have
> > biological problems staying in a ditch for
> thirty
> > days because they get infections and they don't
> > have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but
> > they're relatively rare. On the other hand, men
> > are basically little piglets, you drop them in
> the
> > ditch, they roll around in it, doesn't matter,
> you
> > know. These things are very real. On the other
> > hand, if combat means being on an Aegis-class
> > cruiser managing the computer controls for
> twelve
> > ships and their rockets, a female may be again
> > dramatically better than a male who gets very,
> > very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time
> > because males are biologically driven to go out
> > and hunt giraffes.
>
> So science matters when it involves policy making
> to prevent global warming & the environment but is
> dismissed with regards to gender equality in the
> military.
This is really based on science? Do you know what Gingrich's personal chair-sitting to giraffe-hunting ratio is? I would venture to guess it is similar to that of most American males. As for the crusty vagina issue, I don't think our troops have spent 30 days in a ditch in decades. Gingrich obviously doesn't understand modern warfare despite his reference to Aegis-class cruisers.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 15, 2011 10:57AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Sorry, RV. They don't even compare.
The point was, it doesn't seem like there are that many "wierd" Ginrich quotes out there. The ones Obama made prior to 2004 no one knows about since the slate was wiped clean at some point by some very diligent Democratic operatives. Since he has been in office the "uh uh uh uh ..." answers show how helpless he is most of the time without a teleprompter in front of him - unless he is talking about race relations or his church. The essence of the quote you have from Gingrich is fine - just because you don't like how he worded it doesn't make it an issue. The fact is he pointed out that there are situations in combat where men are superior to women and vice-versa.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> Sorry, RV. They don't even compare.
The point was, it doesn't seem like there are that many "wierd" Ginrich quotes out there. The ones Obama made prior to 2004 no one knows about since the slate was wiped clean at some point by some very diligent Democratic operatives. Since he has been in office the "uh uh uh uh ..." answers show how helpless he is most of the time without a teleprompter in front of him - unless he is talking about race relations or his church. The essence of the quote you have from Gingrich is fine - just because you don't like how he worded it doesn't make it an issue. The fact is he pointed out that there are situations in combat where men are superior to women and vice-versa.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
justsayin
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:08AM
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Demmy
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:19AM
I am Democrat and I'd consider voting for Gingrich. He knows his shit.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:25AM
justsayin Wrote:
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> >
>
All you have to do is look at the Obama quotes - he has flip flopped so much on issues it isn't even funny. That is one area no one has any advantage on.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> >
>
All you have to do is look at the Obama quotes - he has flip flopped so much on issues it isn't even funny. That is one area no one has any advantage on.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:30AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> This is really based on science?
Biology is a science
> Do you know what
> Gingrich's personal chair-sitting to
> giraffe-hunting ratio is? I would venture to guess
> it is similar to that of most American males.
So Newt is not qualified on such matters because he did not sever in the militaty and is a chair sitter.
However, as far as i know,so are you. Per your arguement, you're also not qualified to contemplate such matters either. Therefore your opinion on Newts comments are irrelevant.
> As
> for the crusty vagina issue, I don't think our
> troops have spent 30 days in a ditch in decades.
Again what are your qaulifications on this?
I'm not sure either but I assume it gets nasty at some of the smaller FOB's that don't have running water.
> Gingrich obviously doesn't understand modern
> warfare despite his reference to Aegis-class
> cruisers.
But WTL representing John Q. Public does.
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>
> This is really based on science?
Biology is a science
> Do you know what
> Gingrich's personal chair-sitting to
> giraffe-hunting ratio is? I would venture to guess
> it is similar to that of most American males.
So Newt is not qualified on such matters because he did not sever in the militaty and is a chair sitter.
However, as far as i know,so are you. Per your arguement, you're also not qualified to contemplate such matters either. Therefore your opinion on Newts comments are irrelevant.
> As
> for the crusty vagina issue, I don't think our
> troops have spent 30 days in a ditch in decades.
Again what are your qaulifications on this?
I'm not sure either but I assume it gets nasty at some of the smaller FOB's that don't have running water.
> Gingrich obviously doesn't understand modern
> warfare despite his reference to Aegis-class
> cruisers.
But WTL representing John Q. Public does.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:34AM
What Gingrich is saying isn't based on biology. Man invented the fucking chair for a reason. As for the vagina thing, man also invented the tampon. I'm not saying that Gingrich can't serve because he sat on a chair instead of serving in the military. I'm saying his whole premise is bullshit that is easily dismissed by reality.
As for whether or not I'm more or less qualified to discuss these matters than Gingrich, truth is I'm probably just as clueless as Gingrich. Difference is I'm not running for President.
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As for whether or not I'm more or less qualified to discuss these matters than Gingrich, truth is I'm probably just as clueless as Gingrich. Difference is I'm not running for President.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WOWBama
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:38AM
One thing is accurate. Whoever ends up in the lead out that disaster called the GOP presidential field, not a chance against Obama.
Obama hasn't even begun to campaign and the Republicans are dropping like flies. I can only imagine when the democrats start to tear into all the Republican bullshit how devastating it will be.
The republican party and its caveman ideas are dead. They don't work.
Obama hasn't even begun to campaign and the Republicans are dropping like flies. I can only imagine when the democrats start to tear into all the Republican bullshit how devastating it will be.
The republican party and its caveman ideas are dead. They don't work.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
4 more years, II
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:41AM
Registered Voter Wrote:
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> ...I wouldn't count him out anywhere near as easily as what has
> happened to Cain...
Yes, it was remarkably easy to eliminate Cain - so much so that you've done it yourself!
What a surprise.
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> ...I wouldn't count him out anywhere near as easily as what has
> happened to Cain...
Yes, it was remarkably easy to eliminate Cain - so much so that you've done it yourself!
What a surprise.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:41AM
WOWBama Wrote:
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> Obama hasn't even begun to campaign and the
> Republicans are dropping like flies. I can only
> imagine when the democrats start to tear into all
> the Republican bullshit how devastating it will
> be.
Remind me of the last time the Democrats held as many debates prior to an election? That is really the issue here, nothing else. Once they get down to one or two candidates this will be old news - and really, I would imagine Obama really doesn't want to have to debate Gingrich. Matter of fact, people are talking about paying money to see Obama and Gingrich debate - it would be interesting to see who could come across less pretentious while explaining themselves - but hands down Gingrich would wipe the floor with Obama on policy.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> Obama hasn't even begun to campaign and the
> Republicans are dropping like flies. I can only
> imagine when the democrats start to tear into all
> the Republican bullshit how devastating it will
> be.
Remind me of the last time the Democrats held as many debates prior to an election? That is really the issue here, nothing else. Once they get down to one or two candidates this will be old news - and really, I would imagine Obama really doesn't want to have to debate Gingrich. Matter of fact, people are talking about paying money to see Obama and Gingrich debate - it would be interesting to see who could come across less pretentious while explaining themselves - but hands down Gingrich would wipe the floor with Obama on policy.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:47AM
In reality if there were Obama vs Gingrich debates it would be nothing but a lot of hot air. Both are known for long winded answers that intellectuals will love to dissect but will bore the average voter.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2011 11:47AM by FurfaxTownie.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 15, 2011 11:53AM
I hope he uses this gem in his nominated acceptance speech...
A mere forty years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that's what freedom is all about.
Or maybe this one!
The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.
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A mere forty years ago, beach volleyball was just beginning. No bureaucrat would have invented it, and that's what freedom is all about.
Or maybe this one!
The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: November 15, 2011 12:00PM
How about his Gem from Obama, so clear and concise.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2011 12:02PM by FurfaxTownie.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
RossP
()
Date: November 15, 2011 12:00PM
FurfaxTownie Wrote:
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> In reality if there were Obama vs Gingrich debates
> it would be nothing but a lot of hot air. Both are
> known for long winded answers that intellectuals
> will love to dissect but will bore the average
> voter.
Wow, I don't think a post could more off the mark.
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> In reality if there were Obama vs Gingrich debates
> it would be nothing but a lot of hot air. Both are
> known for long winded answers that intellectuals
> will love to dissect but will bore the average
> voter.
Wow, I don't think a post could more off the mark.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Ows
()
Date: November 15, 2011 05:00PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Another great quote from a great man...
>
> Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism
> in this country that wants to impose its will on
> the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to
> use harassment.
Tis very true!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Another great quote from a great man...
>
> Look, I think there is a gay and secular fascism
> in this country that wants to impose its will on
> the rest of us, is prepared to use violence, to
> use harassment.
Tis very true!
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
LordOfKings
()
Date: November 16, 2011 12:11PM
Now we learn Gingrich supported loan bills for Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae because he could profit.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Eyes of the Weasel
()
Date: November 16, 2011 01:19PM
Is Gingrich any less gaffe-prone than Cain? Or Perry? Or Bachmann? Or anyone else in the current GOP field?
Gingrich says crazy shit, too (e.g.; it would be just to imprison Dodd & Frank for their roles in the financial crisis), just like Cain, Perry & Bachmann.
Gingrich’s campaign is really more of a book/media tour. His ‘campaign’ stops are predominately book readings/signings & DVD screenings by he & his wife. This is very similar to Cain’s campaign strategy: Pretend to run for president to enrich one’s self.
Gingrich has LOTS of baggage; many, many past foibles, indiscretions, failings.
Gingrich is instinctively disliked by most people who meet him.
Gingrich’s arrogance & self-aggrandizement make President Obama look like Mother Teresa.
Gingrich is, by virtue of attrition & a shrinking timeline, the last ‘flash-in-the-pan’ of the 2012 GOP candidate parade.
I predict that by the South Carolina primary, Wilbur has the nomination locked up and we will be cursed with a 9 month general election campaign between he and President Obama.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
Gingrich says crazy shit, too (e.g.; it would be just to imprison Dodd & Frank for their roles in the financial crisis), just like Cain, Perry & Bachmann.
Gingrich’s campaign is really more of a book/media tour. His ‘campaign’ stops are predominately book readings/signings & DVD screenings by he & his wife. This is very similar to Cain’s campaign strategy: Pretend to run for president to enrich one’s self.
Gingrich has LOTS of baggage; many, many past foibles, indiscretions, failings.
Gingrich is instinctively disliked by most people who meet him.
Gingrich’s arrogance & self-aggrandizement make President Obama look like Mother Teresa.
Gingrich is, by virtue of attrition & a shrinking timeline, the last ‘flash-in-the-pan’ of the 2012 GOP candidate parade.
I predict that by the South Carolina primary, Wilbur has the nomination locked up and we will be cursed with a 9 month general election campaign between he and President Obama.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Hatemotor
()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:19PM
I've always thought Gingrich was running for VICE President,,,he seems like he would be more than happy to be on the ticket as VP,,,nice easy job and still enough of a spotlight to keep him happy,,,
And of course more book sales,,,
And of course more book sales,,,
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:24PM
VP is usually the cherry gig in any organization.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 16, 2011 02:31PM
Gingrich claims he was paid $1.6 mil by Fannie Mae to be an historian, not a lobbyist. If it turns out he was a registered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a liar. If it turns out he was an unregistered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a criminal.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:50PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Gingrich claims he was paid $1.6 mil by Fannie Mae
> to be an historian, not a lobbyist. If it turns
> out he was a registered lobbyist for Fannie Mae,
> he's a liar. If it turns out he was an
> unregistered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a
> criminal.
If it turns out what he says is true, you are an idiot.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> Gingrich claims he was paid $1.6 mil by Fannie Mae
> to be an historian, not a lobbyist. If it turns
> out he was a registered lobbyist for Fannie Mae,
> he's a liar. If it turns out he was an
> unregistered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a
> criminal.
If it turns out what he says is true, you are an idiot.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
CNNC
()
Date: November 16, 2011 03:59PM
I heard Newt attended a church where the pastor railed racist comments. Also he was good friends with a guy who planted bombs in buildings.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Eyes of the Weasel
()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:11PM
CNNC Wrote:
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> I heard Newt attended a church where the pastor
> railed racist comments. Also he was good friends
> with a guy who planted bombs in buildings.
Nobody cares about shit like that, especially when
he was paid $1.6 million by Freddie Mac to help
wreck the US housing market.
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> I heard Newt attended a church where the pastor
> railed racist comments. Also he was good friends
> with a guy who planted bombs in buildings.
Nobody cares about shit like that, especially when
he was paid $1.6 million by Freddie Mac to help
wreck the US housing market.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:21PM
Yes well, I don't see this in any plan of Obama's - so regardless of his time as a private citizen consulting for the companies, it is obvious his direction is completely the opposite of anything Obama has put forth.
Obama Hides Real Costs of Fannie and Freddie Bailouts
http://www.newt.org/news/obama-hides-real-costs-fannie-and-freddie-bailouts-newt-gingrichs-plan-would-break-them
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Obama Hides Real Costs of Fannie and Freddie Bailouts
http://www.newt.org/news/obama-hides-real-costs-fannie-and-freddie-bailouts-newt-gingrichs-plan-would-break-them
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 16, 2011 04:28PM
Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gingrich claims he was paid $1.6 mil by Fannie
> Mae
> > to be an historian, not a lobbyist. If it turns
> > out he was a registered lobbyist for Fannie
> Mae,
> > he's a liar. If it turns out he was an
> > unregistered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a
> > criminal.
>
> If it turns out what he says is true, you are an
> idiot.
The Law...
Increases civil penalty for knowing and willful violations of the Lobby Disclosure Act from $50,000 to $200,000 and imposes a criminal penalty of up to five years for knowing and corrupt failure to comply with the Act.
Compliance includes registering as a lobbyist and disclosing that you are, in fact, lobbying. No organization pays $1.6 million to "an historian."
EDIT: Clarification, he did it for Freddie Mac, not Fannie Mae. Not sure that makes me an idiot, but I'm sure RV will disagree.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gingrich claims he was paid $1.6 mil by Fannie
> Mae
> > to be an historian, not a lobbyist. If it turns
> > out he was a registered lobbyist for Fannie
> Mae,
> > he's a liar. If it turns out he was an
> > unregistered lobbyist for Fannie Mae, he's a
> > criminal.
>
> If it turns out what he says is true, you are an
> idiot.
The Law...
Increases civil penalty for knowing and willful violations of the Lobby Disclosure Act from $50,000 to $200,000 and imposes a criminal penalty of up to five years for knowing and corrupt failure to comply with the Act.
Compliance includes registering as a lobbyist and disclosing that you are, in fact, lobbying. No organization pays $1.6 million to "an historian."
EDIT: Clarification, he did it for Freddie Mac, not Fannie Mae. Not sure that makes me an idiot, but I'm sure RV will disagree.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2011 04:29PM by WashingTone-Locian.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
LobbyHobby
()
Date: November 17, 2011 09:08AM
You can be perfectly legal and not violate the Lobbying Act but still make money on the side. It's wouldn't surprise me if Gingrich got "presents." Often times it's a deal for a high paying position after a term is up.
The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in the race right now have a history of "Washington politics." It's is going to kill them when Obama starts exposing them.
The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in the race right now have a history of "Washington politics." It's is going to kill them when Obama starts exposing them.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Hay Zeus
()
Date: November 17, 2011 09:14AM
Fine let there be pissing match between Obama and Gingrich over who more of a Washington Insider business as usual.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Eyes of the Weasel
()
Date: November 17, 2011 09:50AM
Mark my words: Gingrich will not win
the GOP presidential nomination.
Ergo, it is the height of folly to
discuss how Gingrich will challenge
President Obama. He will never get
the chance.
Discussing Wilbur's chances is another
matter entirely.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
the GOP presidential nomination.
Ergo, it is the height of folly to
discuss how Gingrich will challenge
President Obama. He will never get
the chance.
Discussing Wilbur's chances is another
matter entirely.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Hay Zeus
()
Date: November 17, 2011 10:27AM
Your words reek of insecurity
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Lefty
()
Date: November 17, 2011 12:57PM
Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> Your words reek of insecurity
Attachments:
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> Your words reek of insecurity
Attachments:
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: November 17, 2011 01:04PM
LobbyHobby Wrote:
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> You can be perfectly legal and not violate the
> Lobbying Act but still make money on the side.
> It's wouldn't surprise me if Gingrich got
> "presents." Often times it's a deal for a high
> paying position after a term is up.
>
> The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in the
> race right now have a history of "Washington
> politics." It's is going to kill them when Obama
> starts exposing them.
It is against the law to be a paid agent and lobby members of Congress without being registered. If you are Joe Citizen complaining to a Member, that's one thing. But if Gingrich met with Members of Congress and advocated on Freddie Mac's behalf while in its payroll, he committed a crime.
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> You can be perfectly legal and not violate the
> Lobbying Act but still make money on the side.
> It's wouldn't surprise me if Gingrich got
> "presents." Often times it's a deal for a high
> paying position after a term is up.
>
> The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in the
> race right now have a history of "Washington
> politics." It's is going to kill them when Obama
> starts exposing them.
It is against the law to be a paid agent and lobby members of Congress without being registered. If you are Joe Citizen complaining to a Member, that's one thing. But if Gingrich met with Members of Congress and advocated on Freddie Mac's behalf while in its payroll, he committed a crime.
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Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Lefty
()
Date: November 17, 2011 01:29PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> LobbyHobby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You can be perfectly legal and not violate the
> > Lobbying Act but still make money on the side.
> > It's wouldn't surprise me if Gingrich got
> > "presents." Often times it's a deal for a high
> > paying position after a term is up.
> >
> > The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in
> the
> > race right now have a history of "Washington
> > politics." It's is going to kill them when
> Obama
> > starts exposing them.
>
> It is against the law to be a paid agent and lobby
> members of Congress without being registered. If
> you are Joe Citizen complaining to a Member,
> that's one thing. But if Gingrich met with Members
> of Congress and advocated on Freddie Mac's behalf
> while in its payroll, he committed a crime.
I believe Gingrich is saying he was a "consultant" not a lobbyist.
In all honest Obama has already won the election. I think 2012 is just a way to give some Republican favors to a couple of GOP candidates.
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> LobbyHobby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You can be perfectly legal and not violate the
> > Lobbying Act but still make money on the side.
> > It's wouldn't surprise me if Gingrich got
> > "presents." Often times it's a deal for a high
> > paying position after a term is up.
> >
> > The problem is that the 2012 GOP candidates in
> the
> > race right now have a history of "Washington
> > politics." It's is going to kill them when
> Obama
> > starts exposing them.
>
> It is against the law to be a paid agent and lobby
> members of Congress without being registered. If
> you are Joe Citizen complaining to a Member,
> that's one thing. But if Gingrich met with Members
> of Congress and advocated on Freddie Mac's behalf
> while in its payroll, he committed a crime.
I believe Gingrich is saying he was a "consultant" not a lobbyist.
In all honest Obama has already won the election. I think 2012 is just a way to give some Republican favors to a couple of GOP candidates.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Eyes of the Weasel
()
Date: November 17, 2011 01:45PM
Lefty Wrote:
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> In all honesty, Obama has already won the election.
+1
Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
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> In all honesty, Obama has already won the election.
+1
Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
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"I'm not concerned about the very poor." – Willard "Mitt" Romney, February 1, 2012
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Hatemotor
()
Date: November 17, 2011 04:44PM
Wonder what the GOP candidates will say about the millionaire lobby that showed up today asking to have their taxes raised out of fairness,,,
The link is Huff post because no conservative news source is gonna cover this,,,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/millionaires-on-capitol-hill_n_1099064.html
The link is Huff post because no conservative news source is gonna cover this,,,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/millionaires-on-capitol-hill_n_1099064.html
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Atom
()
Date: November 17, 2011 06:47PM
Please, please, please nominate Gingrich.
He would spend us right out of this recession on jewelry purchases alone.
Nothing like a guy who has the will to dump his wife on her deathbed.
He should have the position soley on the massive size of his head.
He would spend us right out of this recession on jewelry purchases alone.
Nothing like a guy who has the will to dump his wife on her deathbed.
He should have the position soley on the massive size of his head.
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
Jack Leviathan
()
Date: November 18, 2011 05:29AM
Once Newt flames out makes way for the candidacy of Damien Thorn
Re: Newt Gringrich Now Leads In Two US Poll for GOP
Posted by:
NewNewt2012
()
Date: November 18, 2011 01:17PM
Atom Wrote:
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> Please, please, please nominate Gingrich.
>
> He would spend us right out of this recession on
> jewelry purchases alone.
>
> Nothing like a guy who has the will to dump his
> wife on her deathbed.
>
> He should have the position soley on the massive
> size of his head.
It's pretty obvious that Democratic party is picking and choosing who they want Obama to run against. Romney is the guy they want to run against. All Obama has to do is start hitting him on healthcare laws he passed. That plus being Mormon should be easy to crush.
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> Please, please, please nominate Gingrich.
>
> He would spend us right out of this recession on
> jewelry purchases alone.
>
> Nothing like a guy who has the will to dump his
> wife on her deathbed.
>
> He should have the position soley on the massive
> size of his head.
It's pretty obvious that Democratic party is picking and choosing who they want Obama to run against. Romney is the guy they want to run against. All Obama has to do is start hitting him on healthcare laws he passed. That plus being Mormon should be easy to crush.