HomeFairfax General ForumArrest/Ticket SearchWiki newPictures/VideosChatArticlesLinksAbout
Off-Topic :  Fairfax Underground fairfax underground logo
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: RinTrouble ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:29PM

If the trends hold now, Republicans may lose seats in Va Senate. Republicans were supposed to take the Senate. Is this a start of a major Dem wave for 2012? What say you.


http://election2011.vpap.org/

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: November 08, 2011 09:45PM

Hahaha, I know, isn't it great? The right wing was so damn cocky about this election. Its gratifying to see them with egg ALLLL over their silly faces.

 

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Date: November 08, 2011 09:54PM

friskydingo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hahaha, I know, isn't it great? The right wing was
> so damn cocky about this election. Its gratifying
> to see them with egg ALLLL over their silly faces.


Batshit Crazy = Losers

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 08, 2011 10:12PM

Ha! Hopefully, the Republicans can pull it in for the state Senate. Virginia needs to get the "Rule of Law" passed for the whole state - not just Prince William County. So far, Corey Stewart is in quite a major lead for PWC - to, that tells me that the satisfaction with his performance and the "Rule of Law" is a success and the members of the county are in agreement with his performance.

It's sad that the rest of the state will keep voting in the Democrats for state senate - yet, complain about all of the illegal aliens in our state. Well, duh! You keep voting in candidates that block this action from passing in a vote.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 08, 2011 10:20PM

Where are you getting your info from? The stupid VSBE site shows


"Member Senate of Virginia (005)" Precincts Reporting:
84 of 57 (147.3%)

and

"Member Senate of Virginia (006)" Precincts Reporting:
84 of 59 (142.3%)

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 08, 2011 10:24PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Ellipsis ()
Date: November 08, 2011 10:37PM

It's not 16:17 elephants leading

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:26PM

Looks like the Republican's win the majority. There was a reporting error where one Republican district showed only 8 votes, but it turns out there were thousands. That put Bryce E. Reeves ahead of Democrat R. Edward Houck (district 17)

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:28PM

trogdor! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Looks like the Republican's win the majority.
> There was a reporting error where one Republican
> district showed only 8 votes, but it turns out
> there were thousands. That put Bryce E. Reeves
> ahead of Democrat R. Edward Houck (district 17)


Beautiful !!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:32PM

He Is Delusional Wrote:

> Beautiful !!

They just said on NBC 4 that there will likely be a recount because it's close, but it looks like the Republican's have it wrapped up.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 08, 2011 11:51PM

trogdor! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> He Is Delusional Wrote:
>
> > Beautiful !!
>
> They just said on NBC 4 that there will likely be
> a recount because it's close, but it looks like
> the Republican's have it wrapped up.


That is still great to hear. Hopefully, there are no issues with the recount. This will only be the 2nd time since the Civil War that Virginia has had a Republican governor, Lieutenant governor, House of Delegates and Senate.

I also hope that this is part of the "waking up" that Americans will start to realize in preparation for the 2012 election. Hope and Change have failed - miserably, at that. Now, let's get a competent leader in place that will put a tourniquet in place to stop the financial bleeding of America.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Ann ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:01AM

Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go Bryce!!!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:03AM

Ann Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go Bryce!!!


Oh, yes - this is beautiful. Apparently, Ohio is another state to watch, too. Virginia and Ohio's changes in the political landscape could be a good prognosticator to the 2012 election.

Hopefully, Gerry Connolly has a somewhat recent copy of his resume ready to go.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: trogdor! ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:16AM


Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: itsadisaster ()
Date: November 09, 2011 08:18AM

He Is Delusional Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ann Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go Bryce!!!
>
>
> Oh, yes - this is beautiful. Apparently, Ohio is
> another state to watch, too. Virginia and Ohio's
> changes in the political landscape could be a good
> prognosticator to the 2012 election.
>
> Hopefully, Gerry Connolly has a somewhat recent
> copy of his resume ready to go.


Yeah, the consensus in the VA GOP is that they severely under performed, even in conservative districts. They were supposed to pick up 5+ seats and now my only pick up 1 or 2. This was supposed to be a romp, with a popular Gop governor and unpopular dem president, this was their chance and they failed. At best the senate will be at parity.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 09, 2011 08:24AM

itsadisaster Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Yeah, the consensus in the VA GOP is that they
> severely under performed, even in conservative
> districts. They were supposed to pick up 5+ seats
> and now my only pick up 1 or 2. This was supposed
> to be a romp, with a popular Gop governor and
> unpopular dem president, this was their chance and
> they failed. At best the senate will be at parity.

I wouldn't call it a total loss. Virginia just won't get the "Rule of Law" passed on a statewide basis. However, I still believe that those like President Obama and Congressman Gerry Connolly will be in trouble come 2012.

When we take it to the next level, people will not forget ObamaCare. People will not forget the $850 Billion "stimulus package" that never worked. People will not forget the $447 Billion that president Obama is now seeking as a "Jobs Bill".

People will not forget the senseless ways the the Liberal party want to spend the money of American taxpayers.

Never Forget!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Sucks ()
Date: November 09, 2011 09:11AM

For all the money that VA power and the Republican party spent to buy the seats it was a pretty bad loss. Still the GOP did pick up enough seats to pass a lot of alarming bills that allow big business to run wild in the state.

Probably the most alarming are plans to strip some of Skyline drive and build a coal firing power plant near Hampton Va.

Sucks, one of the reasons I moved to Virginia was the clean and beautiful land.

I might as well move back to New Jersey now.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: sleepy ()
Date: November 09, 2011 09:14AM

friskydingo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hahaha, I know, isn't it great? The right wing was
> so damn cocky about this election. Its gratifying
> to see them with egg ALLLL over their silly faces.

Yeah, taking effective control of the VA senate = egg all over their faces.

Speaking of eggs, looks like you counted your chickens before they were hatched.

Might want to consider changing your name to friskydumbass.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 09, 2011 09:39AM

Any Democrat who sees the election as a Republican loss is kidding themselves. Any Republican who sees it as a mandate is also nuts.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: omfg ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:02AM

He Is Delusional Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> itsadisaster Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Yeah, the consensus in the VA GOP is that they
> > severely under performed, even in conservative
> > districts. They were supposed to pick up 5+
> seats
> > and now my only pick up 1 or 2. This was
> supposed
> > to be a romp, with a popular Gop governor and
> > unpopular dem president, this was their chance
> and
> > they failed. At best the senate will be at
> parity.
>
> I wouldn't call it a total loss. Virginia just
> won't get the "Rule of Law" passed on a statewide
> basis. However, I still believe that those like
> President Obama and Congressman Gerry Connolly
> will be in trouble come 2012.
>
> When we take it to the next level, people will not
> forget ObamaCare. People will not forget the $850
> Billion "stimulus package" that never worked.
> People will not forget the $447 Billion that
> president Obama is now seeking as a "Jobs Bill".
>
> People will not forget the senseless ways the the
> Liberal party want to spend the money of American
> taxpayers.
>
> Never Forget!

And no one will ever forget the bull shit war which caused 5,000 of our troops and accomplished nothing over in Iraq. Fueled by lies and the vision of oil. Now that we are out the fucking Chinese will be in taking all of that oil. Why you ask? Because the "libs," will also never forget how the republicans made China the country it is now.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: RiverRat ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:09AM

He Is Delusional Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ann Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go Bryce!!!
>
>
> Oh, yes - this is beautiful. Apparently, Ohio is
> another http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-obama/2011/11/09/id/417352state to watch, too. Virginia and Ohio's
> changes in the political landscape could be a good
> prognosticator to the 2012 election.
>
> Hopefully, Gerry Connolly has a somewhat recent
> copy of his resume ready to go.

Ohio rejects Obamacare by 2 to 1 margin.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-obama/2011/11/09/id/417352

Go Buckeyes!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:15AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Any Democrat who sees the election as a Republican
> loss is kidding themselves. Any Republican who
> sees it as a mandate is also nuts.

Not a mandate, but certainly an indication of the way things are going considering how much the MSM has tried to paint this as a picture of Republicans being the problem.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:18AM

RiverRat Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ohio rejects Obamacare by 2 to 1 margin.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
> ama/2011/11/09/id/417352
>
> Go Buckeyes!

Yeah, that was an interesting result huh. They reject the union changes (which is fine by the way - I think Kasich went too far pushing it to 15% of their cost - 6% like Wisconsin and it probably would have stood). But at the same time they overwhelmingly reject Obamacare. Again, I wouldn't take the union result there as anything other than it was - keeping the State unions at the status quo.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: leftfield ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:18AM

RiverRat Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> He Is Delusional Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ann Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go
> Bryce!!!
> >
> >
> > Oh, yes - this is beautiful. Apparently, Ohio
> is
> > another
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
> ama/2011/11/09/id/417352state to watch, too.
> Virginia and Ohio's
> > changes in the political landscape could be a
> good
> > prognosticator to the 2012 election.
> >
> > Hopefully, Gerry Connolly has a somewhat recent
> > copy of his resume ready to go.
>
> Ohio rejects Obamacare by 2 to 1 margin.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
> ama/2011/11/09/id/417352
>
> Go Buckeyes!


That article (from the right wing rag) made no sense at all. Republicans get their ass handed to them in Measure 2 and they spin it as a hit against Obamacare????!!!!....The republicans have truly lost it.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:26AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Any Democrat who sees the election as a Republican
> loss is kidding themselves. Any Republican who
> sees it as a mandate is also nuts.


Truth.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:28AM

leftfield Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> That article (from the right wing rag) made no
> sense at all. Republicans get their ass handed to
> them in Measure 2 and they spin it as a hit
> against Obamacare????!!!!....The republicans have
> truly lost it.

The unions spent over $25 MILLION dollars in Ohio to defeat the union changes and yet they couldn't muster support for Obamacare. The result is pretty telling - the unions are going to fend for themselves, but that doesn't mean Obama will get any real benefit from it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: LossForVirginians ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:28AM

It's a win for big corporations and a loss for Virginians. Just another way stuff to CEO pockets in Virginia.

Good bye Ole Virginia.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:30AM

LossForVirginians Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's a win for big corporations and a loss for
> Virginians. Just another way stuff to CEO pockets
> in Virginia.
>
> Good bye Ole Virginia.

Yeah, when all your friends have jobs because Virginia becomes a business friendly state remember why. Not only has the economy gone global for large corporations, but also there is a lot of jockeying between states for the businesses that choose to stay in the US. Why do you think most credit card companies are located in Delaware for their home state? Why do you think so many businesses are leaving California in droves? If you don't understand the reasons why, then you have no fucking clue.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: RiverRat ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:31AM

leftfield Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> RiverRat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He Is Delusional Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ann Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Praise God for the Victories in VA! Go
> > Bryce!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, yes - this is beautiful. Apparently,
> Ohio
> > is
> > > another
> >
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
>
> > ama/2011/11/09/id/417352state to watch, too.
> > Virginia and Ohio's
> > > changes in the political landscape could be a
> > good
> > > prognosticator to the 2012 election.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, Gerry Connolly has a somewhat
> recent
> > > copy of his resume ready to go.
> >
> > Ohio rejects Obamacare by 2 to 1 margin.
> >
> >
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
>
> > ama/2011/11/09/id/417352
> >
> > Go Buckeyes!
>
>
> That article (from the right wing rag) made no
> sense at all. Republicans get their ass handed to
> them in Measure 2 and they spin it as a hit
> against Obamacare????!!!!....The republicans have
> truly lost it.

Obamacare will be a major issue in Ohio for the next election. Let's hear
the Dems squawk then.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Waxing Gibbous ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:32AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Any Democrat who sees the election as a Republican
> loss is kidding themselves. Any Republican who
> sees it as a mandate is also nuts.

Well said. I think there is reason to be concerned for team Obama, but feel there is time to right the ship. Larry Sabato said that if the election were held today, Obama would get trounced. Republicans love to point to that, but they leave off the part where he siad that the election isn't being held today and that a year is along time in politics.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: 4 more years, II ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:34AM

Waxing Gibbous Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ...but they leave off the part where he siad that the
> election isn't being held today and that a year is
> along time in politics.

They also leave off the part where they said THIS election was a referendum and would bode ill for Obama.

Pardon for noting the obvious, but nothing horrible for Obama happened this election.

Oopsie!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Date: November 09, 2011 10:35AM

RiverRat Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ohio rejects Obamacare by 2 to 1 margin.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/health-care-ohio-ob
> ama/2011/11/09/id/417352
>
> Go Buckeyes!

*Yawn*

Wake me up when a Repug.-appointed federal
judge rules that the indivdual mandate is
constitutional.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:37AM

4 more years, II Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Waxing Gibbous Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...but they leave off the part where he siad
> that the
> > election isn't being held today and that a year
> is
> > along time in politics.
>
> They also leave off the part where they said THIS
> election was a referendum and would bode ill for
> Obama.
>
> Pardon for noting the obvious, but nothing
> horrible for Obama happened this election.
>
> Oopsie!

And yet - aren't you the folks who keep pointing at the RCP averages and noting none of the Republicans are totally beating Obama right now? Maybe you should get your story straight - a YEAR is a LONG time, and if he is already this close, it is obvious that in a year he could be totally trashed. So you keep deluding yourselves he is going to win next year - that will work with me just fine.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:38AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Any Democrat who sees the election as a Republican
> loss is kidding themselves. Any Republican who
> sees it as a mandate is also nuts.

Bill you are too easy. You can't see the developing voter sentiment blow back against all things Obama. And because of that you will be ran over by the oncoming train next November.

Let's take a look at what has happened just recently.

1- You have VA

2- Last week Colorado voters by a margin of almost 2-to-1 defeated a citizen initiative to increase taxes for public education that would have raised $2.9 billion.
Proposition 103, (another teachers union "for the children" tax hike initiative") the only statewide tax vote in the U.S. this election season, failed 64-36 percent with 84 percent of the projected vote counted. Obama won CO by app. 9% in '08.

3- Ohio rejects Obamacare.With 66 percent of 1.8 million votes supporting Issue 3, the Health Care Freedom Amendment will advance to protect Ohio taxpayers from the Obamacare individual mandate and prevent a $1 billion increase in the state Medicaid budget.

This is all in a week. I know you are all jacked about Ohio's collective bargaining / union victory but let's see what the inevitable massive layoffs does to Ohio's public sector employment over the next year as they continue to struggle balancing their budget.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:40AM

mcsmack Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is all in a week. I know you are all jacked
> about Ohio's collective bargaining / union victory
> but let's see what the inevitable massive layoffs
> does to Ohio's public sector employment over the
> next year as they continue to struggle balancing
> their budget.

Yeah, I was going to point that out too - that will be the ultimate result of this "win" for Democrats. Even more layoffs from the public sector.

Brilliant.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Date: November 09, 2011 10:57AM

mcsmack Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Let's take a look at what has happened just
> recently.
>
> 1- You have VA

As I recall, you Repugs. were beating your chests
about winning 4-5 Senate seats, but came away
w/just one (maybe two). Admittedly, those two
seats would flip control of the Senate, but still;
it certainly wasn't anywhere close to a mandate.
Plus, Repug. candidates were resoundingly defeated
in the vast majority of contested elections in Fairfax.

> 2- Last week Colorado voters by a margin of almost
> 2-to-1 defeated a citizen initiative to increase
> taxes for public education that would have raised
> $2.9 billion.
> Proposition 103, (another teachers union "for the
> children" tax hike initiative") the only statewide
> tax vote in the U.S. this election season, failed
> 64-36 percent with 84 percent of the projected
> vote counted. Obama won CO by app. 9% in '08.

I don't see how this has anything to do w/President
Obama. It was a local issue decided locally. So what?

> 3- Ohio rejects Obamacare.With 66 percent of 1.8
> million votes supporting Issue 3, the Health Care
> Freedom Amendment will advance to protect Ohio
> taxpayers from the Obamacare individual mandate
> and prevent a $1 billion increase in the state
> Medicaid budget.

Again, so what? The vote means nothing.

> This is all in a week. I know you are all jacked
> about Ohio's collective bargaining / union victory
> but let's see what the inevitable massive layoffs
> does to Ohio's public sector employment over the
> next year as they continue to struggle balancing
> their budget.

Let's see what else happened this week:

- The author & champion of the Arizona immigration law was recalled.

- The "life begins at fertilization" measure was defeated in Mississippi.

- Herman Cain continues to be cained in the court of public opinion.

- The Repug. presidential field is looking more anemic that ever and the sense that their opportunity to defeat the president in 2012 is inexorably slipping away is palpable.

See, it’ not so bad!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/09/2011 10:58AM by Eyes of the Weasel.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Waxing Gibbous ()
Date: November 09, 2011 11:02AM

4 more years, II Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Waxing Gibbous Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...but they leave off the part where he siad
> that the
> > election isn't being held today and that a year
> is
> > along time in politics.
>
> They also leave off the part where they said THIS
> election was a referendum and would bode ill for
> Obama.
>
> Pardon for noting the obvious, but nothing
> horrible for Obama happened this election.
>
> Oopsie!

Well, to be fair, the individual mandate was overwhelmingly defeated in Ohio. The results in VA cannot be seen as promising for the President either. As many as six House seats were lost and two Senate seats. For a good analysis of why the Democrats lost, this is a good read: http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/5309/why-va-dems-lost-the-state-senate

While I agree with many of the sentiments expressed by the author, it should be taken with a grain of salt as he is vying to head up the DPVA.

As I said, I think there is time to right the ship and retain the Presidency, but this election definitely gives me pause. I remain cautiously optimistic.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:02PM

Everyone can read what they want into this election's results. I consider that further evidence of it being remarkably unslanted either way, considering the political climate.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: SameOle ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:07PM

Same old republicans, trying to take the country back to caveman ideas that have been proven complete failures over 200 years.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Ain't it Grand? ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:16PM

SameOle Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Same old republicans, trying to take the country
> back to caveman ideas that have been proven
> complete failures over 200 years.

You aren't so good at math are you? Or history?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: amazing ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:21PM

Ain't it Grand? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SameOle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Same old republicans, trying to take the
> country
> > back to caveman ideas that have been proven
> > complete failures over 200 years.
>
> You aren't so good at math are you? Or history?


Didn't you know the war of 1812 was just a republican front to steal oil

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: 4 more years, II ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:23PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I consider that further evidence of it being remarkably unslanted either
> way, considering the political climate.

Me, too.

And THAT should cause serious concern internal to The Imploding Party.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: sleepy ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:27PM

4 more years, II Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I consider that further evidence of it being
> remarkably unslanted either
> > way, considering the political climate.
>
> Me, too.
>
> And THAT should cause serious concern internal to
> The Imploding Party.

Really? Why? The fact that you have Democratic state Senate candidates saying they will not support President Obama's re-election should worry the GOP and ease the fears of the Democrats? You have contended before that the President will win in a landslide. Please tell us which state he can win in 2012 that he did not win in 2008. Just name one. Put up or shut up.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Republican Virginia Election Failure
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 09, 2011 12:35PM

Macky-I am sure you have heard the old expression "All politics are local". If you had, and if you have spent much time in downstate Virginia, or as they like to call it Virginia, you'd probably have noticed that Virginia has been an incredibly conservative state for a long time. Essentially you have Democratic islands like NoVa, Richmond and Tidewater surrounded by a Republican sea, with control of most larger offices depending on whether the Democrats can attract voters along the fringes. The message of 2006 and 2008 wasn't that Virginia was turning Democratic. It was that Republicans shouldn't take Virginia for granted. Given the right candidate and the right message Virginia could vote Democratic in individual races, and that could happen on a national and not just a statewide basis.

That message still holds true. Conventional wisdom had it that Republicans were going to do well in 2011. Not only were they going to hold their base and make gains in the fringes, but they were also going to make inroads into traditional Democratic territory. By those standards 2011 was a disappointment-IIRC 2 Senate seats and 3 in the House. When I refer to mandate I mean on the question of whether we have a Cuchinelli style Virginia or stick with the model that we had under Warner and have largely had under McDonnell.

Now I know you want to see everything through anti-Obama colored glasses. If I was on the flip side of the coin I might be arguing that the steady erosion of the political side of the tea party movement is an endorsement of what you might label "all things Obama". Well I don't. Sorry to disappoint you.

The reality as I see it is that the problems that Obama has chosen to take on are those where a majority support change. However the solutions his associates have attempted to implement are not those the majority supports. So long as the debate is only about "Do yo support X Obama policy I think he has trouble. However when the debate shifts to "Do you want to return to the way things were before" (as in health care) or "Do you want to embark in a radical change in the other direction" (as in tax policy) I think you are on weaker ground.

Options: ReplyQuote


Your Name: 
Your Email (Optional): 
Subject: 
Attach a file
  • No file can be larger than 75 MB
  • All files together cannot be larger than 300 MB
  • 30 more file(s) can be attached to this message
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
  *******   **     **  ********  **     **  **      ** 
 **     **  **     **  **        **     **  **  **  ** 
 **         **     **  **        **     **  **  **  ** 
 ********   *********  ******    **     **  **  **  ** 
 **     **  **     **  **         **   **   **  **  ** 
 **     **  **     **  **          ** **    **  **  ** 
  *******   **     **  ********     ***      ***  ***  
This forum powered by Phorum.