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Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: November 02, 2011 08:31AM

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67394.html

I thought this guy showed some promise when he got elected, then I pegged him as a complete opportunist after he co-signed, endrosed and ratified ObamaCare, the "stimulus" and even the election of the inexperienced leftist quack Obama himself..

Now, here is Webbs chance for redemption..

"In an interview with POLITICO, Webb made clear his opposition to the president’s $447 billion jobs agenda, the $35 billion package for local governments to hire first responders and teachers and the $60 billion infrastructure bank plan, which all rest primarily on one concern: They’re all funded by a surtax on millionaires"

Webb instead supports keeping income taxes where they are and raising capital gains from 15% to 20%

Last December, Webb voted against his party’s effort to raise income tax rates on those earning more than $250,000, but he voted to break a GOP filibuster when Democrats raised the threshold to $1 million. Neither measure came forward for an up-or-down vote


The Politico goes on to ponder whether Webb will even stump for Dingle Barry when he campaigns for re-election in VA. My guess is he won't, though he is finished with politics, there would be nothing worse for his career as a pundit,consultant or writer to have the albattross of Obamas failed four year tenure haunting him.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67394.html#ixzz1cYB6VQjj


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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: troy12 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 12:34PM

Militaristic closet repugnican will say anything for reelection.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Date: November 02, 2011 12:38PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> Militaristic closet repugnican will say anything
> for reelection.


Webb isn't running for re-election.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: troy12 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 01:32PM

Maybe but Webb was a former Republican did you know that?

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Date: November 02, 2011 01:35PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> Maybe but Webb was a former Republican did you
> know that?


Yes. He was Navy Secretary under Reagan. And that would hardly make him a "closet" Republican, given that everybody knows that already.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: November 02, 2011 01:36PM

Webb is arguing vehemently for raising the capital gains tax. I think that's a great idea.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Atom ()
Date: November 02, 2011 01:45PM

Webb knows where his bread is buttered. This is an expensive media market.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: youre an idiot ()
Date: November 02, 2011 02:17PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> Maybe but Webb was a former Republican did you
> know that?


And Perry used to be a democrat before he saw the error in his ways. Whats your point

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: youre a retard ()
Date: November 02, 2011 02:27PM

Atom Wrote:
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> Webb knows where his bread is buttered. This is
> an expensive media market.

Do you mean a lucrative media market?

You make no sense.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: troy12 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 02:47PM

Jim Webb used Obama to get elected, he is no better than any other hypocrite compassionate conservative.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Date: November 02, 2011 02:49PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> Jim Webb used Obama to get elected, he is no
> better than any other hypocrite compassionate
> conservative.


Webb was elected in 2006.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: youre an idiot ()
Date: November 02, 2011 02:51PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> Jim Webb used Obama to get elected, he is no
> better than any other hypocrite compassionate
> conservative.


You really are retarded then. He has by no means governed with a conservative agenda. People change their beliefs and ideals overtime and dont have a closed mind like you. I dont really even like the guy but he certainly has the right to switch parties if he wants to as does anyone. Unless of course youre just so far left that everyone is conservative to you.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: youre an idiot ()
Date: November 02, 2011 02:53PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:

> Webb was elected in 2006.

Didnt you hear he rode Obamas coattails of Obama when he was an unheard of newly elected Senator. Thats how well Webb can see the future

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 02, 2011 03:20PM

youre an idiot Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
>
> > Webb was elected in 2006.
>
> Didnt you hear he rode Obamas coattails of Obama
> when he was an unheard of newly elected Senator.
> Thats how well Webb can see the future


If you listen to certain right wing talking heads it was Webb who created the opportunity for Obama. As some may recall in 2006 George Allen was the darling of the Republican right wing and was seen as the heir presumptive to George W Bush in 2008. Then Allen utters the famous Makaka comment and a few skeletons come out of his closet, and suddenly his career is going into a tailspin, Webb wins the senate and we are talking about a Democratic presidential candidate having a shot at winning Virginia in 2008. Meanwhile the Republican right starts floundering around looking for a new hero and in the process it kept ripping at its more electible centrist candidates.

Back in 2006/7 Rush was saying that Democrats might come to regret electing Webb as he really wasn't a Democrat. I suspect the truth is that Webb doesn't fit well within either party, but instead shares beliefs with both.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Date: November 02, 2011 03:23PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Back in 2006/7 Rush was saying that Democrats
> might come to regret electing Webb as he really
> wasn't a Democrat. I suspect the truth is that
> Webb doesn't fit well within either party, but
> instead shares beliefs with both.


Rush also said he wanted Obama to get the Democratic nomination because he couldn't win the Presidency. Wonder how often Rush brings that up these days.

As for Allen, he had enough Confederate skeletons in his closet that he probably would have been doomed, anyway. Especially given that he would have been running against a black guy.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: troy12 ()
Date: November 02, 2011 03:41PM

All I'm saying is some politicians are about ideas and some are about money and that is bullshit.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Date: November 02, 2011 03:45PM

troy12 Wrote:
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> All I'm saying is some politicians are about ideas
> and some are about money and that is bullshit.


They are all about money. Politicians that are about ideas aren't politicians for very long.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: youre an idiot ()
Date: November 02, 2011 03:46PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> youre an idiot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> > > Webb was elected in 2006.
> >
> > Didnt you hear he rode Obamas coattails of
> Obama
> > when he was an unheard of newly elected Senator.
>
> > Thats how well Webb can see the future
>
>
> If you listen to certain right wing talking heads
> it was Webb who created the opportunity for Obama.
> As some may recall in 2006 George Allen was the
> darling of the Republican right wing and was seen
> as the heir presumptive to George W Bush in 2008.
> Then Allen utters the famous Makaka comment and a
> few skeletons come out of his closet, and suddenly
> his career is going into a tailspin, Webb wins the
> senate and we are talking about a Democratic
> presidential candidate having a shot at winning
> Virginia in 2008. Meanwhile the Republican right
> starts floundering around looking for a new hero
> and in the process it kept ripping at its more
> electible centrist candidates.
>
> Back in 2006/7 Rush was saying that Democrats
> might come to regret electing Webb as he really
> wasn't a Democrat. I suspect the truth is that
> Webb doesn't fit well within either party, but
> instead shares beliefs with both.


A lot of it has to do with the demographics too. Va as a whole is a conservative state but northern va isn't by any means and has a very large population. When you sperate Nova out there's still the hampton area and richmond but va looks a lot more like the perception people have. 08 was going to go to Obama regardless. There were just to many first time minority voters voting for anyone else to have a real chance. Plus it was the cool thing to do for younger college kids. I'm not a fan of his but it is what it is he's the Pres and the office is more important than the man. Mccain isn't really so great himself anyway. A better candidate may have had a shot against Obama but the "young stars" are just that young and were realatively unherd of for that election.

As far as this one most of the biggest names are still sitting out like what both parties do when an incumbent pres is going for reelection. Most of them don't want to stake their first run going against a guy whose already won and had an advantage. Not to many survive a defeat to come back and win the office at a later date when it comes to the presidency.

The main point for this thread though was that guys just an idiot and has no clue what he's talking about. He's just looking for any excuse to bash republicans and making himself look foolish in the process

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Norwood ()
Date: November 02, 2011 05:46PM

I think most moderate Democrats now realize what a catastrophe Obama's been and don't want to be associated with him.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: He Is Delusional ()
Date: November 02, 2011 08:22PM

Norwood Wrote:
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> I think most moderate Democrats now realize what a
> catastrophe Obama's been and don't want to be
> associated with him.

Of course they don't. It's also because they're trying like crazy to hold onto their careers. They're holding onto the deck chairs of the Titanic for dear life.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: November 03, 2011 08:09AM

Webb may have been forced to back Obama after Dingle Barry received the nomination, thinking that without getting behind the pary prez, he would not be able to tap into reelection funds. Now that he has chosen to retire from politics, he can speak freely.

I never thought Webb to be an awful candidate (or Mark Warner for that matter) but I was dissapointed to see both of them fall into line as far as ObamaCare, the "Stimulus" and otherdestrcutive Obama policies. Both of these men were sold as independents and Warner had pretty esnsible fiscal credentials as governor.

THere may well be other reasons for Webb not wanting to run, but it really looks and sounds to me as if he is in realization that the Obama myth of competent bipartisanship was just that. It's early to tell if he won't stump for Dingle Barry in VA, but I have a hard time picturing him going to Hampton Roads, Southside or even anywhere up here and offering a credible argument that Obama's policies were anything more than typically poorly contrived liberal hype.

He could be the guy who writes the "insider" book about what a mistake Obama was for a America, or he could wind up a credible maverick pundit on military matters.


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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Greeny ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:01PM

He is being independent of both parties I think that is good.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:44PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> Webb may have been forced to back Obama after
> Dingle Barry received the nomination, thinking
> that without getting behind the pary prez, he
> would not be able to tap into reelection funds.
> Now that he has chosen to retire from politics, he
> can speak freely.

> he could wind up a credible maverick pundit on
> military matters.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the last comment. Webb seems at his best when he is talking about "the troops". His comments, PR and legislative record indicate that was one of his core issues, and his views were not in accord with those of the younger Bush. I suspect that he probably backed Obama as a way to gain presidential backing for his views during the post Bush White House. The guy knows politics well enough to know that it is easier to get things done when you have the support of the guy at the top.

As for Obamacare and the stimulus I think you will find there were many Democratic legislators, including Warner and Webb, (and a very large portion of Democratic voters) who would have preferred something much different than what was passed. I suspect that many fell into line with the "it's either this or nothing" argument, which has a great deal of validity given the almost solid Republican opposition to these programs in any form.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Norwood ()
Date: November 03, 2011 04:31PM

Senator Webb really shouldn't have wasted his full term in Congress and pressed President Obama for a cabinet position in DOD after Obama was elected.

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Re: Sen. Jim Webb (Dem-VA) Opposes the Obama Phony "Jobs Plan"
Posted by: Pentagon cuts ()
Date: November 04, 2011 11:04AM

Just heard on the radio that Webb wants drastic cuts of defense spending.

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