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Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:03PM

RV is the #1 defender of Cain, his
policy positions, and his campaign.
He bristles at every criticism of
Cain and gushes about Cain’s backstory
and abilities. RV scolds posters of
negative comments about Cain as though
he has some emotional stake in the campaign.

I see a budding bro-mance developing.

You?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:04PM

I see someone with a man-crush on me - as usual. Might want to go somewhere else trollie.

Maybe if you actually followed the issues rather than just being a follower you might be better at defending your reasoning, versus resorting to ad hominems to try and deflect your own stupidity.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: I I I ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:11PM

Well, Cain just got called out on his lie that taxes would not go up/be reduced for most families....

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:24PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> I see someone with a man-crush on me - as usual.
> Might want to go somewhere else trollie.
>
> Maybe if you actually followed the issues rather
> than just being a follower you might be better at
> defending your reasoning, versus resorting to ad
> hominems to try and deflect your own stupidity.

I am not attacking you, RV. I am simply highlighting
your obvious infatuation with all things Herman Cain.

You sound more and more smitten with each successive post.

PS - The 2nd sentence of your post above was nonsensical.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:25PM

I I I Wrote:
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>
> taxes would not go up/be reduced for most
> families....

You don't understand, their taxes won't go up, they only pay the 9% VAT on NEW goods, not USED goods. Instead of shopping at Wal Mart, lower income families can just shop at yard sales and thrift stores and not pay the tax.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: the uncola ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:27PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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>
> You don't understand, their taxes won't go up,
> they only pay the 9% VAT on NEW goods, not USED
> goods. Instead of shopping at Wal Mart, lower
> income families can just shop at yard sales and
> thrift stores and not pay the tax.


7up

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Date: October 19, 2011 01:33PM

RV agrees with Cain's position of exchanging all of the prisoners in GITMO for one captured U.S. soldier. If the terrorists have two captured U.S. soldiers, I guess our freedom would be up for negotiation with the second soldier. But don't touch that Mexican-killing electric fence! As soon as Cain figures out a way to regain the revenue he'll lose with his 999 plan, he plans to build it!

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:43PM

999 has the potential to really save alot of money for lower income families with the new vs. used tax. Just think of how much food is wasted every year. Once 999 takes effect, poor families can get a huge tax break by buying leftover food from restaurants. A half-eaten bowl of salad is still clean, and it's healthy too. All those leftover breadsticks, uneaten French fries, that stuff stays good for a few days in the fridge. Why not sell it so that hard working families can put food on the table and reduce their tax burden? There's nothing wrong with eating leftovers.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: LIBERAL DUMBASSES ()
Date: October 19, 2011 01:45PM

Notice how the racist liberals come crawling out of the woodwork to attack en masse. The racists are going after Caine and anyone who supports him.

Notice the OP's dummy post. Like most liberals, he is attacking the person, not what the person is saying. This is how liberals argue... Why? Because they are stupid.

One only has to listen to the dummy democrats in Liberty Park to understand how pathetic they are.

oooohhhh, RV has a man-crush on Caine.

This kind of stupidity makes liberals look.... well, stupid.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:04PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> RV agrees with Cain's position of exchanging all
> of the prisoners in GITMO for one captured U.S.
> soldier. If the terrorists have two captured U.S.
> soldiers, I guess our freedom would be up for
> negotiation with the second soldier. But don't
> touch that Mexican-killing electric fence! As soon
> as Cain figures out a way to regain the revenue
> he'll lose with his 999 plan, he plans to build
> it!

Wut?

Actually I left that out of my earlier post because it was not relevant to the discussion. But no, I don't agree with Cain on that at all.

As far as the electric fence goes, sure, if they can't read (no doubt in 37 different languages) the highly visible signs that note the fence is electrified and they go up and fry themselves - yeah, I am not going to cry over that, sorry. You put up highly visible deterrents that would fall well short of the electrified fence such as concrete walls, pre-fencing with razor wire, etc. Then you back it up with the final deterrent - and if they go ahead and go for the crispy critter treatment I certainly wouldn't cry over it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Mitt is the shits ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:06PM

9-9-9 will not work according to all politicians. So we are to understand the current tax system is working?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: O no ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:12PM

LIBERAL DUMBASSES Wrote:
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> Notice how the racist liberals come crawling out
> of the woodwork to attack en masse. The racists
> are going after Caine and anyone who supports
> him.
>
> Notice the OP's dummy post. Like most liberals,
> he is attacking the person, not what the person is
> saying. This is how liberals argue... Why?
> Because they are stupid.
>

You can't even spell Cain correctly dumbass. Those claiming 999 would save families money, you're right. Rich families. Even the other candidates surprisingly stated this. 999 won't work.
> One only has to listen to the dummy democrats in
> Liberty Park to understand how pathetic they are.
>
> oooohhhh, RV has a man-crush on Caine.
>
> This kind of stupidity makes liberals look....
> well, stupid.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:20PM

O no Wrote:
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> Those
> claiming 999 would save families money, you're
> right. Rich families. Even the other candidates
> surprisingly stated this. 999 won't work.

Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on people making under $250K per year. Oh wait, he did and he put in new fees and such that weren't "taxes" per se but still acted the same.

I am still waiting for all the other wondrous ideas other than a flat tax (with the same stupid arguments against it as far as hurting the poor) that anyone else has put forth with any great detail. Romney has what, a 59 point plan?

http://mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/09/believe-america-mitt-romneys-plan-jobs-and-economic-growth

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Liberal Dumbasses ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:22PM

O no Wrote:
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> LIBERAL DUMBASSES Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Notice how the racist liberals come crawling
> out
> > of the woodwork to attack en masse. The
> racists
> > are going after Caine and anyone who supports
> > him.
> >
> > Notice the OP's dummy post. Like most
> liberals,
> > he is attacking the person, not what the person
> is
> > saying. This is how liberals argue... Why?
> > Because they are stupid.
> >
>
> You can't even spell Cain correctly dumbass. Those
> claiming 999 would save families money, you're
> right. Rich families. Even the other candidates
> surprisingly stated this. 999 won't work.
> > One only has to listen to the dummy democrats
> in
> > Liberty Park to understand how pathetic they
> are.
> >
> > oooohhhh, RV has a man-crush on Caine.
> >
> > This kind of stupidity makes liberals look....
> > well, stupid.


O, nooooo........ I added an "e" to Cain's name.

That must mean I have a man-crush on the guy.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:40PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on
> people making under $250K per year. Oh wait, he
> did and he put in new fees and such that weren't
> "taxes" per se but still acted the same.

No he lowered taxes. I don't know what fees you are talking about, but taxes have gone down under Obama.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:58PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on
> people making under $250K per year. Oh wait, he
> did and he put in new fees and such that weren't
> "taxes" per se but still acted the same.

What taxes did President Obama raise? BTW, a tax is a pecuniary burden laid upon individuals or property owners to support the government, while a fee is the price one pays as remuneration for services. For example, a toll on a roadway is a fee, not a tax.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 02:59PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on
> > people making under $250K per year. Oh wait, he
> > did and he put in new fees and such that
> weren't
> > "taxes" per se but still acted the same.
>
> No he lowered taxes. I don't know what fees you
> are talking about, but taxes have gone down under
> Obama.

My bad, he has proposed new fees over and over again as a way to say he won't be increasing taxes.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-government-fees-pepper-apf-4120540659.html?x=0
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/02/26/tax-time-obama-urged-to-raise-gas-taxes-to-save-roads/

Then there was his budget proposal...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/02/obamas-budget-a/

..1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion – Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion – eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion – capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion – tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion – codify "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion – repeal LIFO
$210 billion – international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion – information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion – excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion – repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million – repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million – repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion – repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion – increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million – eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years...


If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: 4LulzCat ()
Date: October 19, 2011 03:00PM

herman cain is his father.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: ???????????????/ ()
Date: October 19, 2011 03:00PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on
> > people making under $250K per year. Oh wait, he
> > did and he put in new fees and such that
> weren't
> > "taxes" per se but still acted the same.
>
> No he lowered taxes. I don't know what fees you
> are talking about, but taxes have gone down under
> Obama.


What rock are you living under?

You must be a government employee

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 03:20PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> My bad, he has proposed new fees over and over
> again as a way to say he won't be increasing
> taxes.

Do you understand that proposing and enacting are different things? That taxes proposed but not enacted do not exist?

Since fees are not taxes, wtf are you blathering on about?

> Then there was his budget proposal...

Again, the President’s budget proposal was never enacted. So how, exactly, has President Obama raised anyone’s taxes?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 19, 2011 03:21PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Registered Voter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes on
> > > people making under $250K per year. Oh wait,
> he
> > > did and he put in new fees and such that
> > weren't
> > > "taxes" per se but still acted the same.
> >
> > No he lowered taxes. I don't know what fees you
> > are talking about, but taxes have gone down
> under
> > Obama.
>
> My bad, he has proposed new fees over and over
> again as a way to say he won't be increasing
> taxes.
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-government-fees-
> pepper-apf-4120540659.html?x=0
> http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/02/
> 26/tax-time-obama-urged-to-raise-gas-taxes-to-save
> -roads/
>
> Then there was his budget proposal...
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/02/obama
> s-budget-a/
>
> ..1) On people making more than $250,000.
>
> $338 billion – Bush tax cuts expire
> $179 billlion – eliminate itemized deduction
> $118 billion – capital gains tax hike
>
> Total: $636 billion/10 years
>
> 2) Businesses:
>
> $17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes
> $24 billion – tax carried-interest as income
> $5 billion – codify "economic substance
> doctrine"
> $61 billion – repeal LIFO
> $210 billion – international enforcement, reform
> deferral, other tax reform
> $4 billion – information reporting for rental
> payments
> $5.3 billion – excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil
> and gas
> $3.4 billion – repeal expensing of tangible
> drilling costs
> $62 million – repeal deduction for tertiary
> injectants
> $49 million – repeal passive loss exception for
> working interests in oil and natural gas
> properties
> $13 billion – repeal manufacturing tax deduction
> for oil and natural gas companies
> $1 billion – increase to 7 years geological and
> geophysical amortization period for independent
> producers
> $882 million – eliminate advanced earned income
> tax credit
>
> Total: $353 billion/10 years...


So what you are saying is, he hasn't raised any taxes and none of these fees actually exist, so you are wrong.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 03:24PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> So what you are saying is, he hasn't raised any
> taxes and none of these fees actually exist, so
> you are wrong.

You see where it says "my bad"?

Generally that indicates one was mistaken, no?

Repeat much?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 04:28PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> You see where it says "my bad"?
>
> Generally that indicates one was mistaken, no?

But you weren't 'mistaken' at all.
You know the President's budget
wasn't enacted. You knowingly
posting a falsehood. YOU LIED!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: October 19, 2011 04:33PM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You see where it says "my bad"?
> >
> > Generally that indicates one was mistaken, no?
>
> But you weren't 'mistaken' at all.
> You know the President's budget
> wasn't enacted. You knowingly
> posting a falsehood. YOU LIED!

Yes, that's it trollie, I lied (unknowingly). So lets see... that makes me unqualified for what on this site? LOL

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 19, 2011 05:01PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> RV agrees with Cain's position of exchanging all
> of the prisoners in GITMO for one captured U.S.
> soldier. If the terrorists have two captured U.S.
> soldiers, I guess our freedom would be up for
> negotiation with the second soldier. But don't
> touch that Mexican-killing electric fence! As soon
> as Cain figures out a way to regain the revenue
> he'll lose with his 999 plan, he plans to build
> it!

If only the EPA wasn't underfunded.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 19, 2011 05:02PM

You still haven't acknowledged he has actually lowered taxes.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 19, 2011 05:07PM

Mitt is the shits Wrote:
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> 9-9-9 will not work according to all politicians.
> So we are to understand the current tax system is
> working?


Like a charm.

It's keeping IRS agents employed.
It's keeping tax accountants employed.
It's keeping tax lawyers employed.
It's keeping "tax problem" ambulance chasers employed.

It's also designed to fuck over the middle class. Always and forever.

Yep...like a charm. Don't you dare question it either!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 19, 2011 05:10PM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> Do you understand that proposing and enacting are
> different things? That taxes proposed but not
> enacted do not exist?
>

Finally someone is making sense.

Living proof that the above is true beyond measure........

"Hope and Change"

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 19, 2011 05:21PM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you understand that proposing and enacting
> are
> > different things? That taxes proposed but not
> > enacted do not exist?
> >
>
> Finally someone is making sense.
>
> Living proof that the above is true beyond
> measure........
>
> "Hope and Change"


Well seeing as how the original premise was he wouldn't "raise taxes on people making less than $250,000 a year" then even if those had been enacted he didn't break his promise.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 19, 2011 07:10PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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>
> Well seeing as how the original premise was he
> wouldn't "raise taxes on people making less than
> $250,000 a year" then even if those had been
> enacted he didn't break his promise.


He hasn't raised taxes on anyone by means of extending the Bush tax cuts he ran against.

Check your meds, Johnny. You're missing the major points and honing in on that which was already true before he promised it.

ps. He didn't want to extend those cuts.....he was forced to. By evil Republicans that were only out to help him keep his campaign promise.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 19, 2011 07:33PM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> He hasn't raised taxes on anyone by means of
> extending the Bush tax cuts he ran against.
>
> Check your meds, Johnny. You're missing the major
> points and honing in on that which was already
> true before he promised it.
>
> ps. He didn't want to extend those cuts.....he
> was forced to. By evil Republicans that were only
> out to help him keep his campaign promise.

Wrong-o, Greenie.

The President wanted to restore the pre-Bush tax rates only for incomes >$250 large. Had he been successful, President Obama STILL would not have broken his "no tax increases on <$250K incomes" promise.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:07AM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Well seeing as how the original premise was he
> > wouldn't "raise taxes on people making less
> than
> > $250,000 a year" then even if those had been
> > enacted he didn't break his promise.
>
>
> He hasn't raised taxes on anyone by means of
> extending the Bush tax cuts he ran against.
>
> Check your meds, Johnny. You're missing the major
> points and honing in on that which was already
> true before he promised it.
>
> ps. He didn't want to extend those cuts.....he
> was forced to. By evil Republicans that were only
> out to help him keep his campaign promise.


As said, you're wrong. And he has lowered taxes for the middle class still more. Try to get around it all you want, but here these are facts:

1. Obama has not raised taxes at all.
2. Taxes he has tried to raise were all on those making over $250,000, as he said he wanted to do.
3. Taxes on the middle class and poor have gone down since he took office due to his actions, not because of some Bush tax cut kicking in. This happened, in fact, when those Republicans forced him to extend the Bush tax cuts. He got concessions from them so that ordinary people would at least benefit from this obstruction. Many at the time said he snuck in a second stimulus.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:12AM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> SoylentGreen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He hasn't raised taxes on anyone by means of
> > extending the Bush tax cuts he ran against.
> >
> > Check your meds, Johnny. You're missing the
> major
> > points and honing in on that which was already
> > true before he promised it.
> >
> > ps. He didn't want to extend those cuts.....he
> > was forced to. By evil Republicans that were
> only
> > out to help him keep his campaign promise.
>
> Wrong-o, Greenie.
>
> The President wanted to restore the pre-Bush tax
> rates only for incomes >$250 large. Had he been
> successful, President Obama STILL would not have
> broken his "no tax increases on <$250K incomes"
> promise.


Bullshit.

He held the triple crown when all that went down. The House, the Senate and oh yeah..HE was the president.

Not a single thing stopped him from doing whatever he wanted except him.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: SoylentGreen ()
Date: October 20, 2011 11:18AM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> 1. Obama has not raised taxes at all.
> 2. Taxes he has tried to raise were all on those
> making over $250,000, as he said he wanted to do.
>
> 3. Taxes on the middle class and poor have gone
> down since he took office due to his actions, not
> because of some Bush tax cut kicking in. This
> happened, in fact, when those Republicans forced
> him to extend the Bush tax cuts. He got
> concessions from them so that ordinary people
> would at least benefit from this obstruction. Many
> at the time said he snuck in a second stimulus.


Too bad your "facts" aren't in the IRS tax code. Otherwise I wouldn't be:
Paying more into the system than I was before.
Not so worried about what Obama is trying to hide by promising only taxing the rich.
And finally, paying more into the system than I was before.

Your media driven world is anything but reality. Out here in the real world, people have less jobs, lose their houses more often, pay more into the system from all angles, have less (or NO) healthcare than they had before and absolutely have less faith in the government than they did the day Obama was elected.

Deal with it, he's not the savior. He's another Washington punk out to get his, to take care of his and to fuck over the public by remote control from a golf course.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2011 11:18AM by SoylentGreen.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: October 20, 2011 12:24PM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Too bad your "facts" aren't in the IRS tax code.
> Otherwise I wouldn't be:
> Paying more into the system than I was before.

Really, I don’t give a rat’s ass why you’re “Paying
more into the system than” before, but it is not
because President Obama raised your income tax rate.
If you have evidence to the contrary, bring it. Put
up or shut up, Greenie.

> Your media driven world is anything but reality.

What’s “reality”? What YOU believe? Please, you
and your ilk are hardly the arbiters of truth.

> Out here in the real world, people have less jobs,
> lose their houses more often, pay more into the
> system from all angles, have less (or NO)
> healthcare than they had before and absolutely
> have less faith in the government than they did
> the day Obama was elected.

None of that would be any different if McSame had
been elected.

> Deal with it, he's not the savior.

Deal with it, President Obama is not the devil.
He’s working with what tools he has to improve
the lives of the American people.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 20, 2011 03:04PM

SoylentGreen Wrote:
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> Too bad your "facts" aren't in the IRS tax code.
> Otherwise I wouldn't be:
> Paying more into the system than I was before.
> Not so worried about what Obama is trying to hide
> by promising only taxing the rich.
> And finally, paying more into the system than I
> was before.
>
> Your media driven world is anything but reality.
> Out here in the real world, people have less jobs,
> lose their houses more often, pay more into the
> system from all angles, have less (or NO)
> healthcare than they had before and absolutely
> have less faith in the government than they did
> the day Obama was elected.
>
> Deal with it, he's not the savior. He's another
> Washington punk out to get his, to take care of
> his and to fuck over the public by remote control
> from a golf course.


I don't think he's a savior, but if you are paying more in taxes than you were before, it is not because he raised them.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 01, 2011 02:02PM

I was wondering, RV, how you're handling
this whole Cain sexual harrassment scandal?

Is it a 'high tech lynching', the current
reverberation in the nutjob echo chamber,
or something else?

As often happens, the story has turned from
Cain's actions to the fact that he lied about
there having been settlements paid to his accusers.

I must be difficult to see your hero, the perfect
candidate, dragged through this mud of his own making.

Well, we're here for ya, RV. Our collective shoulder
is cry-on-able whenever you're ready to let it all out.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Mao ()
Date: November 01, 2011 02:22PM

Im sure RV will claim Cain's innocense or how it doesnt really matter...or it is a msm fabrication. We will be asked to ignore or forgive this rich black man. It is a shame the same forgiveness is never afforded poor black men.

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Posted by: Alias ()
Date: November 01, 2011 02:45PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2012 05:49PM by Alias.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 01, 2011 04:24PM

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> Ali-ASS Wrote:
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Notice how the racist liberals come crawling out
> of the woodwork to attack en masse. The racists
> are going after Caine and anyone who supports
> him.

That Cain (that’s how the man’s name is spelled, douche)
is a sexual harasser has nothing to do with his race.

> Notice the OP's dummy post. Like most liberals,
> he is attacking the person, not what the person is
> saying. This is how liberals argue... Why?
> Because they are stupid.

Attacking? Who is attacking? Time to adjust your meds,
Ali-ASS.

> One only has to listen to the dummy democrats in
> Liberty Park to understand how pathetic they are.

Not really, no.

> oooohhhh, RV has a man-crush on Caine.

RV’s budding bro-mance with Cain is well documented
& well know on FFU. I understand you’re slow, Ali-ASS,
but do try to keep up.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Teacher ()
Date: November 01, 2011 04:36PM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> You knowingly posting a falsehood.

LOL. Is that a sentence?


Try again. What did you intend to write here?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 03, 2011 10:41AM

Well, well, well! What's up with your boy Herman, RV?

Looks as though ol' he's got a little problem w/the ladies.

1) A third woman has come forward to accuse Cain of harassment.

2) A male former NRA staffer says he witnessed Cain sexually harassing a woman at a Virginia restaurant in the late 90s.

3) A male conservative radio jock has told Politico that when Cain visited his station for an interview, Cain "said "awkward" and "inappropriate" things to his station's staff."

Stick a fork in Herman. He's done.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:03PM

Wow, so Clinton, who actually had lawsuits brought against him for true sexual harassment, was fully fit for the job - yet Cain, who evidently has made suggestive comments or suggestions, somehow is disqualified just by asking women back to his room (supposedly).

Evidently the women involved have gone on to highly successful careers - based on the deep investigative reporting by the AP pool staff.

Kennedy had a problem with the ladies also but that never seemed to be a problem either. I guess this only happens to successful black conservatives.

Whatever. The MSM is an interesting quandary in double standards that is very hard to follow at times.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:18PM

Under these circumstances I guess equivocating is the best you can do.

Have these revelations cooled you ardor for Cain, RV, or is your man-crush still as strong as ever?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:27PM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> Under these circumstances I guess equivocating is
> the best you can do.
>
> Have these revelations cooled you ardor for Cain,
> RV, or is your man-crush still as strong as ever?

I still see him as a potentially better candidate than Perry or many of the others. Perry was supposed to be the MSM's choice to be "better than Romney" and we see how that worked out. It is still a long way to the nominations - and this fabrication of endless debates is nothing more than the MSM trying to get everyone so tired of seeing the Republicans that Obama will seem normal at the end. Obama has so many negatives right now - it will be interesting to see how he overcomes all of those when it comes down to him versus the eventual nominee. I guess the MSM will do everything they can to paint anyone from the Republican side as so extreme that it will become a lesser of two evils argument. If it comes down to Romney versus Obama, Obama will lose for sure based on current polls and that eventual comparison.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:35PM

Two dynamics as play.

1) The religious zealots in the Republican party are desperately looking for anyone who's not a Mormon to oppose Romney.

2) The Republican Party leadership is desperately looking for a suitable Tea Party candidate who can complete the ticket as the VP to give the party another ticket like Bush-Cheney where one guy plays the mean cop.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 12:39PM

Les Wrote:
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> Two dynamics as play.
>
> 1) The religious zealots in the Republican party
> are desperately looking for anyone who's not a
> Mormon to oppose Romney.
>
> 2) The Republican Party leadership is desperately
> looking for a suitable Tea Party candidate who can
> complete the ticket as the VP to give the party
> another ticket like Bush-Cheney where one guy
> plays the mean cop.

The "religious zealots" are occupying a much smaller slice of time than they used to other than the Perry candidacy. As far as the VP goes, there are a lot of potentials out there. Again, desperation is a far characterization of the process - the only thing desperate right now is how much the MSM is working overtime to find trash on all the viable candidates.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:04PM

The MSM is a cunning opponent, but RV sees through his trickery!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:35PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> The MSM is a cunning opponent, but RV sees through
> his trickery!


Haha, +1.

Good ol Reggie. ANY deficiency is his heralded "candidates" is solely the abuse of the pen by the "MSM". Always and forever. I thought the whine about JFK was pretty classic, too.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:41PM

Ah, how's life Fairy?

Here we go with more reasons why Obama is a sure loser - against Romney for sure, but Cain could probably beat him also, even with the current issue dogging him.

Obama fails all viability tests
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/david-hill/191211-obama-fails-all-viability-tests
...The second numbers I peruse are perceptions of accomplishments. Eventually, Republicans will ask voters, What has Barack Obama really accomplished? and he must answer. A Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted in his first year found that only 14 percent of all voters felt he had accomplished a great deal during his initial nine months in office, his salad days. I cannot find evidence that the same question has been asked lately, but is there any chance that the result would be much different? In its Moving America Forward manifesto, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee says Obama, with help from congressional Democrats, has five accomplishments: created private sector jobs, reduced debt, kept taxes low, passed a healthcare plan and reformed Wall Street. Thats the groups best list. Do you think most Americans believe Obama has accomplished those things? Aside from passing a healthcare plan, he has done almost none of that, in the publics mind. According to the latest AP polling, conducted in mid-October, the presidents average approval rating across those five areas is 42 percent. Obama brings no record of genuine accomplishment to his bid for reelection....

LOL

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:45PM

Even the NY Times is down on him...

Is Obama Toast? Handicapping the 2012 Election
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/nate-silver-handicaps-2012-election.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
...A presidents approval rating toward the end of his third year, therefore, has been a decent (although imperfect) predictor of his chances of victory. Reagan saw his approval rating shoot up to 51 percent in November 1983 amid the V-shaped recovery from the recession of the previous year the first sign that he was headed for a big win. Obamas approval rating may have rebounded by a point or two from its lows after the debt-ceiling debacle but not by much more than that. In late October, it ranged between 40 and 46 percent in different polls and averaged about 43 percent.

There have been two presidents stuck with similarly low approval ratings a year in advance of the next election. Gerald Ford had a 44 percent approval rating a year before his loss to Carter. Johnson had a 41 percent approval rating in November 1967, and although he was eligible for another term, he opted not to run. His vice president, Hubert H. Humphrey, did, and he lost.

In fact, since 1944 (when approval ratings first became reliable), there have been five cases in which the incumbent partys president had an approval rating below 49 percent a year ahead of the election as Obama almost certainly will, unless he finds the cure for cancer after our issue goes to print and each time the incumbent party lost. ...


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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:49PM

LOL @ Reggie. Pick your argument:

1) Cain is a victim of MSM overhype

2) Criticizing Obama makes the MSM right.

3) Reggie is a dipshit.

I'm just gonna go way out on a limb and pick #3.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 01:56PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> LOL @ Reggie. Pick your argument:
>
> 1) Cain is a victim of MSM overhype
>
> 2) Criticizing Obama makes the MSM right.
>
> 3) Reggie is a dipshit.
>
> I'm just gonna go way out on a limb and pick #3.

Well, this is a - "why does RV like Cain" thread right?

I like Cain for a variety of reasons, but I am by no means sold on him. Romney just has this wishy washy background so Cain offers an alternative for someone who actually had the ability to project a plan and stand up for it. But if Romney gets the nomination I will certainly support him.

The MSM attacks are as usual, an attempt to degrade all the Republican candidates to try and make Obama look better. Nothing new there - just look at how they handled the Edwards issue in the last elections where they refused to publish anything about him and his wife or his affair until the National Enquirer broke the story. So anything and everything they can do to make some moral equivalence to show how wonderful Obama looks in comparison is their usual operating process.

It is just interesting to see how the wheels are falling off the Obama machine. The real implosion is happening in his office.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: November 03, 2011 02:03PM

For the record, and for the umpteenth time, your political opinions matter not a whit to any reader here, nor will your continuous over-spewing of your partisan pukeage change even one mind come election time. But carry on; it's cheap entertainment.

I merely found it humorous that, in the SAME thread, the dirty foul bastards of "the MSM" could be hated for pointing out Cain's sexual abuse history, yet lauded for their criticism of Obama. I guess whatever fits your argument of the day, huh?

You really are just a worthless political hack, Reggie.

LOL

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 03, 2011 02:21PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> For the record, and for the umpteenth time, your
> political opinions matter not a whit to any reader
> here, nor will your continuous over-spewing of
> your partisan pukeage change even one mind come
> election time. But carry on; it's cheap
> entertainment.
>
> I merely found it humorous that, in the SAME
> thread, the dirty foul bastards of "the MSM" could
> be hated for pointing out Cain's sexual abuse
> history, yet lauded for their criticism of Obama.
> I guess whatever fits your argument of the day,
> huh?
>
> You really are just a worthless political hack,
> Reggie.
>
> LOL

RV, dude, OUCH!

At least you still have Herman's imaginary shoulder to cry on.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 02:28PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> I like Cain for a variety of reasons, but I am by
> no means sold on him. Romney just has this wishy
> washy background so Cain offers an alternative for
> someone who actually had the ability to project a
> plan and stand up for it.


Sure it's a terrible, stupid plan but by God he stands by it!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:23PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> For the record, and for the umpteenth time, your
> political opinions matter not a whit to any reader
> here, nor will your continuous over-spewing of
> your partisan pukeage change even one mind come
> election time. But carry on; it's cheap
> entertainment.
>
> I merely found it humorous that, in the SAME
> thread, the dirty foul bastards of "the MSM" could
> be hated for pointing out Cain's sexual abuse
> history, yet lauded for their criticism of Obama.
> I guess whatever fits your argument of the day,
> huh?
>
> You really are just a worthless political hack,
> Reggie.
>
> LOL

Whereas you're just worthless. Your only function in life appears to be criticizing political hacks - yay team Fairy.

Get over yourself - you are no more worthwhile than anyone else that posts here.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:25PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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>
> Sure it's a terrible, stupid plan but by God he
> stands by it!

As to the other plan proposed by Obama which essentially consists of pass more extended unemployment, and find more "shovel ready" jobs. Infrastructure upgrades sound great, but unless it is the electrical grid I don't see that it has any more merit than what the States already do. Our electrical grid needs billions in upgrades - those are what we should be paying for if we are really desperate to throw good money after bad. But it is most likely a lot better to line the pockets of Obama's political supporters more (Solyndra or Tesla anyone - or any other number of failing or soon to fail "green" projects).

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:28PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Sure it's a terrible, stupid plan but by God he
> > stands by it!
>
> As to the other plan proposed by Obama which
> essentially consists of pass more extended
> unemployment, and find more "shovel ready" jobs.
> Infrastructure upgrades sound great, but unless it
> is the electrical grid I don't see that it has any
> more merit than what the States already do. Our
> electrical grid needs billions in upgrades - those
> are what we should be paying for if we are really
> desperate to throw good money after bad. But it is
> most likely a lot better to line the pockets of
> Obama's political supporters more (Solyndra or
> Tesla anyone - or any other number of failing or
> soon to fail "green" projects).


Even if everything you said were entirely as you described with all your preconceptions being true and were all that Obama's proposals have and still do consist of, it is still a better plan than Cain's.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:30PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Even if everything you said were entirely as you
> described with all your preconceptions being true
> and were all that Obama's proposals have and still
> do consist of, it is still a better plan than
> Cain's.

Why? Because it maintains the status quo? That is about the only merit it has. Otherwise it is more spending heaped on top of what we already can't afford. And yea, I have already agreed the Republicans need to put in a tax increase for folks making over $1M and for increasing the rate on capital gains over $250K other than for the sale of your primary residence.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: hackhackShutYourTrap ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:33PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> For the record, and for the umpteenth time, your
> political opinions matter not a whit to any reader
> here, nor will your continuous over-spewing of
> your partisan pukeage change even one mind come
> election time. But carry on; it's cheap
> entertainment.
>
> I merely found it humorous that, in the SAME
> thread, the dirty foul bastards of "the MSM" could
> be hated for pointing out Cain's sexual abuse
> history, yet lauded for their criticism of Obama.
> I guess whatever fits your argument of the day,
> huh?
>
> You really are just a worthless political hack,
> Reggie.
>

says the BIGGEST and most OBNOXIOUS political hack on this message board. stfu you loud mouth fool//

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:33PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Why? Because it maintains the status quo? That is
> about the only merit it has. Otherwise it is more
> spending heaped on top of what we already can't
> afford. And yea, I have already agreed the
> Republicans need to put in a tax increase for
> folks making over $1M and for increasing the rate
> on capital gains over $250K other than for the
> sale of your primary residence.


I missed this part of Cain's plan.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:37PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why? Because it maintains the status quo? That
> is
> > about the only merit it has. Otherwise it is
> more
> > spending heaped on top of what we already can't
> > afford. And yea, I have already agreed the
> > Republicans need to put in a tax increase for
> > folks making over $1M and for increasing the
> rate
> > on capital gains over $250K other than for the
> > sale of your primary residence.
>
>
> I missed this part of Cain's plan.

No one said Cain proposed it. I have always maintained here that anything he puts forth will be modified/codified by Congress - assuming they even take up his call. If they only do a modified form of his plan, or they just make changes to the existing code as a result. Even in Cain's plan it is obvious that there had to be exceptions/changes. It is nothing more than an outline - that is obvious to everyone, even Cain - just the concept is simple to grasp and get a handle on.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: The Other Guy ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:40PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Why? Because it maintains the status quo? That is
> about the only merit it has. Otherwise it is more
> spending heaped on top of what we already can't
> afford. And yea, I have already agreed the
> Republicans need to put in a tax increase for
> folks making over $1M and for increasing the rate
> on capital gains over $250K other than for the
> sale of your primary residence.

In other words, Cain's plan sucks.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“Wall Street is typically thought of as investment banking
and banking and we were not an investment bank or a bank.
But we were in the financial services sector generally,"
Romney said. "I am not a Wall Street guy, classically
defined.” - Willard "Mitt" Romney, December 29, 2011.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:40PM

So Cain's plan is he has no actual plan, but there will be a plan, when the plan is put together, sometime, and then that plan--that plan will be a good plan, so wait for that plan, and in the meantime Cain will talk about this other plan, that's not really a plan at all, just a marketing tool.

Honestly what exactly are you defending here? Do you even know?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:42PM

The Other Guy Wrote:
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> In other words, Cain's plan sucks.

The current tax structure sucks - Cain's plan at least gives a start for something that has the potential to be a much simpler solution. I don't think the flat tax in it's current incarnations is all that great by the way, because it is even more of a burden on the lower income folks.

But what we currently have sucks way beyond anything Cain has proposed so far - but by all means throw stones in your "shallow water" thinking.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 03:44PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> So Cain's plan is he has no actual plan, but there
> will be a plan, when the plan is put together,
> sometime, and then that plan--that plan will be a
> good plan, so wait for that plan, and in the
> meantime Cain will talk about this other plan,
> that's not really a plan at all, just a marketing
> tool.
>
> Honestly what exactly are you defending here? Do
> you even know?

Cain isn't rising in the polls just because of his tax plan. If you believe that, then you really have no clue.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: November 03, 2011 04:12PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> But what we currently have sucks way beyond
> anything Cain has proposed so far - but by all
> means throw stones in your "shallow water"
> thinking.


In what world, exactly? YOU don't even think his plan, as it is, is workable.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 03, 2011 04:24PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But what we currently have sucks way beyond
> > anything Cain has proposed so far - but by all
> > means throw stones in your "shallow water"
> > thinking.
>
>
> In what world, exactly? YOU don't even think his
> plan, as it is, is workable.

Actually JW I find RV's way of thinking a positive sign. Admitting such basic points as the differing impact of imposing taxes on lower v. higher income/wealth individuals and considering the possibility of raising some taxes is a great improvement over the usual hype of "confiscatory tax rates" that we frequently hear from those quarters.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: November 03, 2011 04:42PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Registered Voter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > But what we currently have sucks way beyond
> > > anything Cain has proposed so far - but by
> all
> > > means throw stones in your "shallow water"
> > > thinking.
> >
> >
> > In what world, exactly? YOU don't even think
> his
> > plan, as it is, is workable.
>
> Actually JW I find RV's way of thinking a positive
> sign. Admitting such basic points as the
> differing impact of imposing taxes on lower v.
> higher income/wealth individuals and considering
> the possibility of raising some taxes is a great
> improvement over the usual hype of "confiscatory
> tax rates" that we frequently hear from those
> quarters.

You only hear it from the party leadership - not the mainstream folks. The problem is we know if the Democrats get more power it will be a never ending tax increase and increased spending. We saw that cycle for years prior to Reagan.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: November 04, 2011 09:45AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > For the record, and for the umpteenth time,
> your
> > political opinions matter not a whit to any
> reader
> > here, nor will your continuous over-spewing of
> > your partisan pukeage change even one mind come
> > election time. But carry on; it's cheap
> > entertainment.
> >
> > I merely found it humorous that, in the SAME
> > thread, the dirty foul bastards of "the MSM"
> could
> > be hated for pointing out Cain's sexual abuse
> > history, yet lauded for their criticism of
> Obama.
> > I guess whatever fits your argument of the day,
> > huh?
> >
> > You really are just a worthless political hack,
> > Reggie.
> >
> > LOL
>
> Whereas you're just worthless. Your only function
> in life appears to be criticizing political hacks
> - yay team Fairy.
>
> Get over yourself - you are no more worthwhile
> than anyone else that posts here.

Poor Reggie. When his 2-faced rhetoric gets exposed, all he can do is name call. Which way are the MSM winds blowing today, Reggie--for you or against you? At least you admitted being a hack; that's a start.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: November 04, 2011 09:48AM

Registered Voter takes this online politicking waaaaay too seriously. I think it would be healthier for him to actually join in party campaigning or participate in some protests or counter-protests.

He actually thinks he is making a difference by "convincing" others to share his worldview. It's kinda sad.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 04, 2011 02:45PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> You only hear it from the party leadership - not
> the mainstream folks. The problem is we know if
> the Democrats get more power it will be a never
> ending tax increase and increased spending. We saw
> that cycle for years prior to Reagan.

So Reps can actually have a wide range of views but Dems are all cast in the same mold? Apparently you don't remember Robb or Nunn or William Proxmire of the Golden Fleece Award fame.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: I D E ()
Date: November 04, 2011 02:54PM

Until RV has a tingly feeling in his leg your post means nothing
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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Buh bye Obama ()
Date: November 06, 2011 09:22AM

Could Cain have weaseled his way through this week any more poorly? This guy's a JOKE as a presidential candidate, an embarassment to the GOP. If he's the best they can do, Obama wins handily one year from now.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: HermansDickSucker ()
Date: November 09, 2011 10:45AM

I was just so impressed with Herman last night. So Presidential it gave my lil willie a tingle.

Signed,

RV

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: November 22, 2011 01:01PM

So, RV, how's that man-crush on the FABULOUS Mr. Cain working out for ya?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Hopeless Bro-mantic ()
Date: December 06, 2011 12:10PM

Poor RV has been denied the man-love of his hero, Herman Cain.

Which old white guy will he man-crush on now?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: 4 more years, II ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:19PM

Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
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> Which old white guy will he man-crush on now?

I think even he must be getting disgusted with the Imploding Party's lack of quality choice by now.

Plus the damn economy Keeps On Improving - funny how that happens, huh, but takes a little...you know...time?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:33PM

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> Hopeless Bro-mantic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which old white guy will he man-crush on now?
>
> I think even he must be getting disgusted with the
> Imploding Party's lack of quality choice by now.
>
> Plus the damn economy Keeps On Improving - funny
> how that happens, huh, but takes a little...you
> know...time?

Yeah, you call improvement the fact that more people have stopped looking for work so the BLS "fake" unemployment numbers go lower. Keep dreaming - it is amazing the drugs you must be using that let you keep seeing Obama through rose colored glasses - maybe you should get off the anti-depressants. Folks like you though are what are going to ensure Obama does lose - the hopeless romanticism of failure. I will not feel sorry for you at all when Obama loses.

Even CNN and MSNBC are fighting each other these days ... if they can't keep it together that is scary in and of itself - and pretty indicative of how much the wheels have fallen off. This will be fun to watch.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: RV? ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:36PM

RV is probably in the hospital after having a stroke about the Republican three ring circus right now. We're not even close to the election and all sorts of trash is surfacing about the GOP candidates.

It boggles my mind that Gingrich is leading now. That's how bad the GOP candidate field is. Once the democratic party shows Gingrich's voting record republicans will drop him like a slipper stone into muddy water.

Wait until Obama starts really campaigning and reminds the public of what happened under Bush. Do you want to go back to the Bush years?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: RV Answer ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:38PM

So who should replace Obama RV? Tell us please...

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:45PM

RV? Wrote:
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> Wait until Obama starts really campaigning and
> reminds the public of what happened under Bush.
> Do you want to go back to the Bush years?

Hahaha.. if Obama starts talking about Bush again he will make it even worse. People are sick of him talking about Bush, and how all his failures are Bush's fault. Now he has a host of his own failures to point out - all the investments in "green" technology gone wrong - hell even the Volt is starting to implode so bad the media can't cover for it anymore.

No, Obama has built his own house of cards to fail with - so either Romney or Gingrich gets the nomination, and we are already seeing hints of stuff surfacing about Obama that never made it to the last cycle because it was actively suppressed. The media has waited too long to discredit Romney - and if he gets the nomination and suddenly big stories surface about him it will be even more obvious that the MSM is in the tank for Obama no matter what his failings. This time you have the old Hillary supporters starting to fall off and turn against Obama as well. And this time, you really don't have GW to run against - it is all Obama now, he owns it. But really, keep on living the pipe dream being fed to you by the MSM - makes me happy to know you will continue to stay clueless right up to the end.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: 4 more years, II ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:45PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> ...it is amazing the drugs you must be
> using that let you keep seeing Obama through rose
> colored glasses...

I must be in a protected enclave because, frankly, I've literally seen nothing supremely/unexpectedly negative over the last N years.

Nothing.

In fact, nothing.

Oh - except for Me-Too Media "reports" that decide on a conclusion then write a story around it - that simply repeats what some other Me-Too Media "report" said (literally - they say things like "As reported in the Wall Street Journal"...).

And, of course, The Imploding Party's crap.

But my life is pretty much the same it's been.

How about yours?

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:48PM

4 more years, II Wrote:
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>
> I must be in a protected enclave because, frankly,
> I've literally seen nothing supremely/unexpectedly
> negative over the last N years.
>
> Nothing.
>
> In fact, nothing.

And that is exactly why he will lose. It may be "nothing" to you, but the folks who voted Obama in last time from the middle based on "hope and change" thinking they were going to get some sort of miracle - aren't going to vote for him again. He has lost most of the middle, and a lot of the youth vote and others. Take that to the bank.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: 4 more years, II ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:51PM

Well...getting back to the original topic, all those hurting middle-classers (What!? I'm not one of those!?) have to vote for someone OTHER than Obama and, as we can see, the fire is hotter than the frying pan.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:53PM

9-9-9!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:54PM

4 more years, II Wrote:
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> Well...getting back to the original topic, all
> those hurting middle-classers (What!? I'm not one
> of those!?) have to vote for someone OTHER than
> Obama and, as we can see, the fire is hotter than
> the frying pan.

Yeah, vote for a guy who blames everyone but himself ... or ... vote for folks who actually have ideas and are willing to go and fight for them. Yeah, that Obama is a sure winner... NOT.

The true leaders are folks who identify problems and come up with solutions. Not worthless whiners - and all Obama is at this point is a HUGE whiner. I have never seen anyone whine so much about how other people are stopping him from accomplishing things - it is amazing. His hope and change schtick was a winner - the reality is far from it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 01:55PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> 9-9-9!

Funny you guys are still talking about Cain ... fixate much? All I did was express support for him as someone other than a politician we see today. You all seem to want to live in the past or something. Time to move on folks.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: December 06, 2011 02:00PM

Well there's always 9-9-9!

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: village idiot ()
Date: December 06, 2011 02:19PM

The one good idea that Cain brought to the table, reforming our crappy tax code, is now gone with him. None of the other clowns, including Obama and the current Congress seem to be to concerned about fixing it or any of our other problems. Instead, they all just want to sit around and point fingers at each other. No wonder their approval levels are so low.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: December 06, 2011 02:36PM

village idiot Wrote:
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> The one good idea that Cain brought to the table,
> reforming our crappy tax code, is now gone with
> him. None of the other clowns, including Obama
> and the current Congress seem to be to concerned
> about fixing it or any of our other problems.
> Instead, they all just want to sit around and
> point fingers at each other. No wonder their
> approval levels are so low.


I am reluctant to give Cain too much credit for reforming the tax code when what he was trying to do is re-allocate the tax burden away from wealthier individuals under the guise of reforming the Code. Ultimately that is what drives most "tax code reform" efforts. Most Americans only favor tax reform if it means they will pay less taxes. Many would object to reforms that would leave them in the same position if it meant the loss of some cherished tax deduction or credit.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 02:55PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> I am reluctant to give Cain too much credit for
> reforming the tax code when what he was trying to
> do is re-allocate the tax burden away from
> wealthier individuals under the guise of reforming
> the Code. Ultimately that is what drives most
> "tax code reform" efforts. Most Americans only
> favor tax reform if it means they will pay less
> taxes. Many would object to reforms that would
> leave them in the same position if it meant the
> loss of some cherished tax deduction or credit.

That is one of the reasons why tax reform is stupid in and of itself. All they are doing is looking for more ways to pull tax revenue from the masses to fund government. Right now government spends TOO MUCH money - period. So until they figure out what the Federal government really needs to spend, all this talk about tax reform and changes is a load of BS. The real problem is in spending, not revenue - they can think of a gazillion ways to raise revenue, and yet none of them can figure out how to spend less in any meaningful way.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Endure ()
Date: December 06, 2011 03:21PM

RV you must only watch FOX News. In the last election the Republican party fell apart so bad that people defected from it and formed a new party called the "Tea Party."

In case you haven't noticed the latest movement is the Occupy movement and it's not about supporting the rich. In fact a lot Tea Baggers have joined the Occupy Wall St movement.

What could possibly piss of the middle class and poor more? Some loud mouth rich man running his mouth about how the middle and poor class suck ass. Good luck with that platform. That'll even piss off the drunk rednecks who voted against Obama in the last election.

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 06, 2011 04:08PM

Endure Wrote:
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> What could possibly piss of the middle class and
> poor more? Some loud mouth rich man running his
> mouth about how the middle and poor class suck
> ass. Good luck with that platform. That'll even
> piss off the drunk rednecks who voted against
> Obama in the last election.

So Obama - being the rich guy he is - running off to vacation in Hawaii for a couple of weeks - he really comes across as a defender of the poor, downtrodden, middle-class huh?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

OWS is nothing but a front - there are a few "believers" but the rest is just a push by the unions for a backdrop to take everyone's attention ff of Obama and his failures. The main backers and endorsers of OWS make you wonder who is fooling who here...

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/31/the-99-official-list-of-ows/

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Re: Am I the only one who thinks Registered Voter has a man-crush on Herman Cain?
Posted by: Leaders ()
Date: December 06, 2011 04:38PM

Going home for Christmas while the Republicans vow that they will not get anything accomplished in Washington or pass any bills, seems like common sense to me. Plus, Bush said it's OK to play gold if the Iraq war is over. Poor Romney his only riff on the President is he might play some golf. Sad, just sad.

Oh and Bush lied about not playing golf during the war. Bush continued to play golf during the war.


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