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Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Weesel Eyes
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:21AM
Question for the right-wingers:
If you considered President Obama to have been "unqualified" for the presidency having served 8 years in elected office, explain how Herman Cain is qualified having never before held elected office?
Oh, and do keep in mind that running a business is in no way similar to running the US government.
If you considered President Obama to have been "unqualified" for the presidency having served 8 years in elected office, explain how Herman Cain is qualified having never before held elected office?
Oh, and do keep in mind that running a business is in no way similar to running the US government.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
WingNut
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:25AM
Cain has EXECUTIVE experience and is about 20 years more MATURE than Dingle Barry.
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Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:27AM
Nothing prepares a president like being a community organizer.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:32AM
Cain really did a great job running Godfather's Pizza. It was a growing national chain when he took it over, right? In the 80s, everyone knew what Godfather's Pizza was and nobody had heard of Papa John's or CiCi's.
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Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
village idiot
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:43AM
I've always considered myself an independent having always thought that both parties suck and we usually get stuck with the lesser of two evils. But, I will say that Cain has a great response to said question when it's asked. "Our country is run by career politicians. How's that working out for us?"
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Shadow
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Date: October 05, 2011 09:47AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Cain really did a great job running Godfather's
> Pizza. It was a growing national chain when he
> took it over, right? In the 80s, everyone knew
> what Godfather's Pizza was and nobody had heard of
> Papa John's or CiCi's.
Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct 84 and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder people weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the other hand, was started in 1974. How many people had heard of it in 74? 75?
Poor comparison, WTL.
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> Cain really did a great job running Godfather's
> Pizza. It was a growing national chain when he
> took it over, right? In the 80s, everyone knew
> what Godfather's Pizza was and nobody had heard of
> Papa John's or CiCi's.
Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct 84 and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder people weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the other hand, was started in 1974. How many people had heard of it in 74? 75?
Poor comparison, WTL.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:26AM
Shadow Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct 84
> and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder people
> weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the
> other hand, was started in 1974. How many people
> had heard of it in 74? 75?
>
> Poor comparison, WTL.
It's an apt comparison, dumbass. Under Cain's leadership, Godfather's became irrelevant while two upstart chains kicked his ass. If you want good executive experience, vote for Papa John, not Cain.
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct 84
> and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder people
> weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the
> other hand, was started in 1974. How many people
> had heard of it in 74? 75?
>
> Poor comparison, WTL.
It's an apt comparison, dumbass. Under Cain's leadership, Godfather's became irrelevant while two upstart chains kicked his ass. If you want good executive experience, vote for Papa John, not Cain.
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Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Dolt
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:40AM
sleepy Wrote:
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> Nothing prepares a president like being a
> community organizer.
second term...Senator, U.S. President who has kept this country safe from terrorist attack (something Bush could never say)
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> Nothing prepares a president like being a
> community organizer.
second term...Senator, U.S. President who has kept this country safe from terrorist attack (something Bush could never say)
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:43AM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Shadow Wrote:
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> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct
> 84
> > and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder
> people
> > weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the
> > other hand, was started in 1974. How many
> people
> > had heard of it in 74? 75?
> >
> > Poor comparison, WTL.
>
> It's an apt comparison, dumbass. Under Cain's
> leadership, Godfather's became irrelevant while
> two upstart chains kicked his ass. If you want
> good executive experience, vote for Papa John, not
> Cain.
Umm, Papa John isn't running for President. You should pay more attention. But yeah, if Schnatter, a successful businessman, philanthropist, and Republican were to run for President, I'd consider his candidacy seriously. For right now, I suppose some people are excited about the guy that headed the company that had the tenth best pizza sales in the US.
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> Shadow Wrote:
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> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > Well, since PapaJohns wasn't started until Oct
> 84
> > and CiCi's wasn't until 85, it's no wonder
> people
> > weren't familiar with them Godfather's, on the
> > other hand, was started in 1974. How many
> people
> > had heard of it in 74? 75?
> >
> > Poor comparison, WTL.
>
> It's an apt comparison, dumbass. Under Cain's
> leadership, Godfather's became irrelevant while
> two upstart chains kicked his ass. If you want
> good executive experience, vote for Papa John, not
> Cain.
Umm, Papa John isn't running for President. You should pay more attention. But yeah, if Schnatter, a successful businessman, philanthropist, and Republican were to run for President, I'd consider his candidacy seriously. For right now, I suppose some people are excited about the guy that headed the company that had the tenth best pizza sales in the US.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Kazoo
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:44AM
village idiot Wrote:
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> I've always considered myself an independent
> having always thought that both parties suck and
> we usually get stuck with the lesser of two evils.
> But, I will say that Cain has a great response to
> said question when it's asked. "Our country is
> run by career politicians. How's that working out
> for us?"
That logic works so well in other fields...Dentist! Who needs experience? The problem with this country isnt our politicians its our electorate. This country has a long history of supporting "know nothing" , religiously oriented poloiticans. We are absolutely proud of our stupidity and it shows with who we elect.
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> I've always considered myself an independent
> having always thought that both parties suck and
> we usually get stuck with the lesser of two evils.
> But, I will say that Cain has a great response to
> said question when it's asked. "Our country is
> run by career politicians. How's that working out
> for us?"
That logic works so well in other fields...Dentist! Who needs experience? The problem with this country isnt our politicians its our electorate. This country has a long history of supporting "know nothing" , religiously oriented poloiticans. We are absolutely proud of our stupidity and it shows with who we elect.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:56AM
10th best. The real question is, where was it ranked when Cain took over. Bet it was Top 5.
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Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
you said it
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Date: October 05, 2011 10:58AM
Kazoo Wrote:
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> We are absolutely proud of
> our stupidity and it shows with who we elect.
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> We are absolutely proud of
> our stupidity and it shows with who we elect.
Privatize the profits, socialize the losses
Posted by:
Les
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Date: October 05, 2011 11:18AM
Herman Cain was also on the board of directors to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1995-1996. He' likely to oopposed to reforming the banking system so we'll keep bailing them out.
Herman Cain: No need to audit the Federal Reserve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk&feature=player_embedded
Herman Cain: No need to audit the Federal Reserve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk&feature=player_embedded
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
4 more years
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Date: October 05, 2011 11:30AM
sleepy Wrote:
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> Nothing prepares a president like being a
> community organizer.
True.
And a State Senator.
And a US Senator.
Well-rounded, increasingly representative of larger and larger populations.
Yup - Obama set himself up perfectly to be a President eventually (albeit, admittedly, he didn't go the VP route first).
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> Nothing prepares a president like being a
> community organizer.
True.
And a State Senator.
And a US Senator.
Well-rounded, increasingly representative of larger and larger populations.
Yup - Obama set himself up perfectly to be a President eventually (albeit, admittedly, he didn't go the VP route first).
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 12:22PM
The average conservative doesn't realize that Obama's "community organizer" job was something he did back in the 80s when he was in his 20s, before he went to law school. It's not like he made a career out of it.
4 more years Wrote:
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> sleepy Wrote:
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> > Nothing prepares a president like being a
> > community organizer.
>
> True.
>
> And a State Senator.
>
> And a US Senator.
>
> Well-rounded, increasingly representative of
> larger and larger populations.
>
> Yup - Obama set himself up perfectly to be a
> President eventually (albeit, admittedly, he
> didn't go the VP route first).
4 more years Wrote:
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> sleepy Wrote:
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> > Nothing prepares a president like being a
> > community organizer.
>
> True.
>
> And a State Senator.
>
> And a US Senator.
>
> Well-rounded, increasingly representative of
> larger and larger populations.
>
> Yup - Obama set himself up perfectly to be a
> President eventually (albeit, admittedly, he
> didn't go the VP route first).
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
shitty lawyer
()
Date: October 05, 2011 12:27PM
Where are Obama's published legal briefs?
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 12:32PM
shitty lawyer Wrote:
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> Where are Obama's published legal briefs?
It's perfectly fair to criticize him for not publishing legal briefs, but it's totally retarded to bring up someone'a first job after college.
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> Where are Obama's published legal briefs?
It's perfectly fair to criticize him for not publishing legal briefs, but it's totally retarded to bring up someone'a first job after college.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
4 more years
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Date: October 05, 2011 12:36PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> shitty lawyer Wrote:
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> > Where are Obama's published legal briefs?
>
>
> It's perfectly fair to criticize him for not
> publishing legal briefs, but it's totally retarded
> to bring up someone'a first job after college.
They have to say he's worthless; they cannot instead pump whoever they support (a moving target!).
Politics of Hate - they think it's gonna work again; it won't.
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> shitty lawyer Wrote:
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> > Where are Obama's published legal briefs?
>
>
> It's perfectly fair to criticize him for not
> publishing legal briefs, but it's totally retarded
> to bring up someone'a first job after college.
They have to say he's worthless; they cannot instead pump whoever they support (a moving target!).
Politics of Hate - they think it's gonna work again; it won't.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 12:40PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> The average conservative doesn't realize that
> Obama's "community organizer" job was something he
> did back in the 80s when he was in his 20s, before
> he went to law school. It's not like he made a
> career out of it.
Are you saying he did no community organizer activities after law school? You know how to regurgitate the talking point, you just can't defend it.
In 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state.
That's not community organizing?
In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development.
Is "neighborhood economic development" not community organizing?
Not to mention, he was on the board of the Woods Fund that funded the Developing Communities Project. Yeah, that isn't community organizing.
Sad thing is, most people, including you, have no idea what his background is, but you will pretend you do and defend it to no end. There is nothing wrong with these activities per se, but they hardly prepare one for the presidency.
It was more than his first job out of college, and you are retarded to think that's all it was. Evidence and proof is there for anyone to find out. Try and think on your own for a change.
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> The average conservative doesn't realize that
> Obama's "community organizer" job was something he
> did back in the 80s when he was in his 20s, before
> he went to law school. It's not like he made a
> career out of it.
Are you saying he did no community organizer activities after law school? You know how to regurgitate the talking point, you just can't defend it.
In 1992, Obama directed Illinois's Project Vote, a voter registration drive with ten staffers and seven hundred volunteer registrars; it achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state.
That's not community organizing?
In 1993 he joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development.
Is "neighborhood economic development" not community organizing?
Not to mention, he was on the board of the Woods Fund that funded the Developing Communities Project. Yeah, that isn't community organizing.
Sad thing is, most people, including you, have no idea what his background is, but you will pretend you do and defend it to no end. There is nothing wrong with these activities per se, but they hardly prepare one for the presidency.
It was more than his first job out of college, and you are retarded to think that's all it was. Evidence and proof is there for anyone to find out. Try and think on your own for a change.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 12:52PM
lol, yeah I'm sure he had that listed as his profession while he was teaching law school. And instead of telling people he taught law at the University of Chicago, he just told people he was a "community organizer". That makes sense.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 12:54PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> lol, yeah I'm sure he had that listed as his
> profession while he was teaching law school. And
> instead of telling people he taught law at the
> University of Chicago, he just told people he was
> a "community organizer". That makes sense.
Well, what was his profession when teaching law school?
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> lol, yeah I'm sure he had that listed as his
> profession while he was teaching law school. And
> instead of telling people he taught law at the
> University of Chicago, he just told people he was
> a "community organizer". That makes sense.
Well, what was his profession when teaching law school?
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 12:59PM
sleepy Wrote:
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>
> Well, what was his profession when teaching law
> school?
He was a Community Organizer at the University of Chicago. That was the official job title they gave him.
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>
> Well, what was his profession when teaching law
> school?
He was a Community Organizer at the University of Chicago. That was the official job title they gave him.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
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Date: October 05, 2011 01:02PM
The narrative in 2008 when he was candidate Obama was how he was a great community organizer as though it was a great chapter in his life story.
Now the Obama people are arguing thats its not significant and a mere footnote in his life.....make up your minds.
Either way the man is clearly devoid of any real achievment. See thread http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/642031.html
Now the Obama people are arguing thats its not significant and a mere footnote in his life.....make up your minds.
Either way the man is clearly devoid of any real achievment. See thread http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/642031.html
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 01:06PM
Well it definitely wasn't me claiming it was some great professional accomplishment.
Wrote:
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> The narrative in 2008 when he was candidate Obama
> was how he was a great community organizer as
> though it was a great chapter in his life story.
>
> Now the Obama people are arguing thats its not
> significant and a mere footnote in his
> life.....make up your minds.
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> The narrative in 2008 when he was candidate Obama
> was how he was a great community organizer as
> though it was a great chapter in his life story.
>
> Now the Obama people are arguing thats its not
> significant and a mere footnote in his
> life.....make up your minds.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Demo
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Date: October 05, 2011 01:39PM
As a die-hard Democrat I can see myself voting for Herman Cain. Cain seems to be more business than politics and I like that.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 01:51PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Well it definitely wasn't me claiming it was some
> great professional accomplishment.
Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of tells you he had very few other professional accomplishments to tout.
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> Well it definitely wasn't me claiming it was some
> great professional accomplishment.
Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of tells you he had very few other professional accomplishments to tout.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Hatemotor
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Date: October 05, 2011 01:57PM
,and he never will,,,
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 02:04PM
sleepy Wrote:
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> Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of tells
> you he had very few other professional accomplishments to tout.
The fact is, he didn't run on it. The rightards just keep bringing it up because of its subtle racist undertone that Obama was some kind of rabble-rouser like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
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>
> Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of tells
> you he had very few other professional accomplishments to tout.
The fact is, he didn't run on it. The rightards just keep bringing it up because of its subtle racist undertone that Obama was some kind of rabble-rouser like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 02:28PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> sleepy Wrote:
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> >
> > Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of
> tells
> > you he had very few other professional
> accomplishments to tout.
>
> The fact is, he didn't run on it. The rightards
> just keep bringing it up because of its subtle
> racist undertone that Obama was some kind of
> rabble-rouser like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
He actually did run on it.
As much as you may want to, you can't rewrite or simply ignore a simple historical fact.
He ran on it. The proof is above. Why are you embarassed or ashamed to admit it?
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> sleepy Wrote:
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> >
> > Well, if that is what he ran on, it sort of
> tells
> > you he had very few other professional
> accomplishments to tout.
>
> The fact is, he didn't run on it. The rightards
> just keep bringing it up because of its subtle
> racist undertone that Obama was some kind of
> rabble-rouser like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.
He actually did run on it.
As much as you may want to, you can't rewrite or simply ignore a simple historical fact.
He ran on it. The proof is above. Why are you embarassed or ashamed to admit it?
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Wow
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Date: October 05, 2011 02:32PM
Um... let's not forget that Obama was the head of his Harvard Law Class and also president of the Harvard Law Review.
Harvard is a pretty decent school, IMO.
Harvard is a pretty decent school, IMO.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
affirmative action
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Date: October 05, 2011 02:40PM
Think?
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
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Date: October 05, 2011 02:41PM
Obama ran on things like healthcare reform, the troop withdrawal from Iraq, increasing energy independence, and decreasing the influence of lobbyists, not his work as a community organizer.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 05, 2011 02:44PM
Weesel Eyes Wrote:
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> Question for the right-wingers:
>
> If you considered President Obama to have been
> "unqualified" for the presidency having served 8
> years in elected office, explain how Herman Cain
> is qualified having never before held elected
> office?
>
> Oh, and do keep in mind that running a business is
> in no way similar to running the US government.
Yeah, um holding elective office qualifies you for exactly ZERO other than being a politician. Running a business - a large business - means you had to manage employees, deal with budgets, make decisions that affected the lives of everyone you were responsible for economically. By far, just having been a businessman is light years ahead of any experience Obama had coming into office. Being a Community Organizer prepares you for nothing other than knowing how to schmooze people, and tell people what they want to hear. A priest is a community organizer as well.
Running a business is much closer to running facets of the government than anything just being an elected politician will get you. In particular one who voted "present" on the majority of the legislation he was present for. If you can't even make a decision when you are a politician, that actually speaks to you NOT being that good of a politician.
Being the head of a publication at a college has little to do with the real world, as your budgets are set and managed by the school for the most part, and while you might have to deal with paying for publishing and such, it has very little to do with the kind of decision making and judgments required to run a real business.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> Question for the right-wingers:
>
> If you considered President Obama to have been
> "unqualified" for the presidency having served 8
> years in elected office, explain how Herman Cain
> is qualified having never before held elected
> office?
>
> Oh, and do keep in mind that running a business is
> in no way similar to running the US government.
Yeah, um holding elective office qualifies you for exactly ZERO other than being a politician. Running a business - a large business - means you had to manage employees, deal with budgets, make decisions that affected the lives of everyone you were responsible for economically. By far, just having been a businessman is light years ahead of any experience Obama had coming into office. Being a Community Organizer prepares you for nothing other than knowing how to schmooze people, and tell people what they want to hear. A priest is a community organizer as well.
Running a business is much closer to running facets of the government than anything just being an elected politician will get you. In particular one who voted "present" on the majority of the legislation he was present for. If you can't even make a decision when you are a politician, that actually speaks to you NOT being that good of a politician.
Being the head of a publication at a college has little to do with the real world, as your budgets are set and managed by the school for the most part, and while you might have to deal with paying for publishing and such, it has very little to do with the kind of decision making and judgments required to run a real business.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 02:45PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Obama ran on things like healthcare reform, the
> troop withdrawal from Iraq, increasing energy
> independence, and decreasing the influence of
> lobbyists, not his work as a community organizer.
Yeah, I doctored those videos and put them up illegitimately on Obama's official youtube page in less than a half hour. Way to think that one through. How can you even deny the facts that are right in front of you. Now you are just bing silly stupid.
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> Obama ran on things like healthcare reform, the
> troop withdrawal from Iraq, increasing energy
> independence, and decreasing the influence of
> lobbyists, not his work as a community organizer.
Yeah, I doctored those videos and put them up illegitimately on Obama's official youtube page in less than a half hour. Way to think that one through. How can you even deny the facts that are right in front of you. Now you are just bing silly stupid.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: October 05, 2011 02:48PM
If that's your idea of a campaign platform, it's little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby drill" make such a huge impression on the right.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Hope and Change
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Date: October 05, 2011 02:58PM
Hope and change was pretty lightweight.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:01PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> If that's your idea of a campaign platform, it's
> little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> drill" make such a huge impression on the right.
He clearly emphasized his community organizing activity to recruit and encourage his supporters - repeatedly. In the one video, he even criticised his opponents for not having community organizing experience. He ran on his experience as a community organizer. He produced videos emphasizing those aspects of his career.
It is no wonder why out and out lies make such a huge impression on the left. They will ignore all the facts presented to them and not only believe the lie, but repeat it ad nauseum and even turn it into some race baiting rhetoric.
If you think I am making it up, report me here: http://www.attackwatch.com/
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> If that's your idea of a campaign platform, it's
> little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> drill" make such a huge impression on the right.
He clearly emphasized his community organizing activity to recruit and encourage his supporters - repeatedly. In the one video, he even criticised his opponents for not having community organizing experience. He ran on his experience as a community organizer. He produced videos emphasizing those aspects of his career.
It is no wonder why out and out lies make such a huge impression on the left. They will ignore all the facts presented to them and not only believe the lie, but repeat it ad nauseum and even turn it into some race baiting rhetoric.
If you think I am making it up, report me here: http://www.attackwatch.com/
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:03PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> If that's your idea of a campaign platform, it's
> little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> drill" make such a huge impression on the right.
Much like "Hope and Change" on the left. Yeah, I get it.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> If that's your idea of a campaign platform, it's
> little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> drill" make such a huge impression on the right.
Much like "Hope and Change" on the left. Yeah, I get it.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:16PM
Registered Voter Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If that's your idea of a campaign platform,
> it's
> > little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> > drill" make such a huge impression on the
> right.
>
> Much like "Hope and Change" on the left. Yeah, I
> get it.
Well, it is "Change We Can Believe In." LOL.
"Yes We Can."
If it is "yes we can" make the economy worse, he was right.
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If that's your idea of a campaign platform,
> it's
> > little wonder why dumb slogans like "drill baby
> > drill" make such a huge impression on the
> right.
>
> Much like "Hope and Change" on the left. Yeah, I
> get it.
Well, it is "Change We Can Believe In." LOL.
"Yes We Can."
If it is "yes we can" make the economy worse, he was right.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
TheMeeper
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:17PM
sleepy Wrote:
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> --------------------------------------------------
> He clearly emphasized his community organizing
> activity to recruit and encourage his supporters -
He also ran on "arugula" and "putting lipstick on a pig".
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> --------------------------------------------------
> He clearly emphasized his community organizing
> activity to recruit and encourage his supporters -
He also ran on "arugula" and "putting lipstick on a pig".
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
sleepy
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:26PM
TheMeeper Wrote:
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> sleepy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > He clearly emphasized his community organizing
> > activity to recruit and encourage his supporters
> -
>
> He also ran on "arugula" and "putting lipstick on
> a pig".
He may have more success at putting lipstick on a pig than any of the other junk he has attempted. You clearly can't tell the difference between a one liner at a debate and a themed outreach to supporters and potential voters. But hey, you just call em like your told to.
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> sleepy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > He clearly emphasized his community organizing
> > activity to recruit and encourage his supporters
> -
>
> He also ran on "arugula" and "putting lipstick on
> a pig".
He may have more success at putting lipstick on a pig than any of the other junk he has attempted. You clearly can't tell the difference between a one liner at a debate and a themed outreach to supporters and potential voters. But hey, you just call em like your told to.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
FurfaxTownie
()
Date: October 05, 2011 03:37PM
IMO, "Community Organizer" was used extensively during the Obama campaign as tool to remind people that he was not a Washington insider. His rise to politics was from the people, not from personal ambitions or career choice. As though he people of his community demanded Obama run for office because his high virtue and nobility. He is a politician cut from a different cloth.
However, as history has play out it has become evident that Obama is a politician of the worst kind. He engages in real politik every opportunity.
The Obama sycophants can say what they want but that term was a cornerstone of his campaign. Even the dimmest of obvserves could not escape it.
As for Cain, the jobs of POTUS is an executive position. Does Cain have executive expierence? Yes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2011 03:39PM by FurfaxTownie.
However, as history has play out it has become evident that Obama is a politician of the worst kind. He engages in real politik every opportunity.
The Obama sycophants can say what they want but that term was a cornerstone of his campaign. Even the dimmest of obvserves could not escape it.
As for Cain, the jobs of POTUS is an executive position. Does Cain have executive expierence? Yes
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2011 03:39PM by FurfaxTownie.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
get a clue
()
Date: October 05, 2011 07:32PM
Dolt Wrote:
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> sleepy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing prepares a president like being a
> > community organizer.
>
>
> second term...Senator, U.S. President who has kept
> this country safe from terrorist attack (something
> Bush could never say)
Right cus 9-11 was planned in the 8 months that Bush had been in office oh wait.......
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> sleepy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing prepares a president like being a
> > community organizer.
>
>
> second term...Senator, U.S. President who has kept
> this country safe from terrorist attack (something
> Bush could never say)
Right cus 9-11 was planned in the 8 months that Bush had been in office oh wait.......
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
he doesnt have a chance
()
Date: October 05, 2011 07:42PM
Cain is not acting as properly determined by liberals. He will suffer the Uncle Tom calls by the media and others who believe all blacks should be democrats and dependent on EEOC and welfare.
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
()
Date: October 05, 2011 08:41PM
he doesnt have a chance Wrote:
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> Cain is not acting as properly determined by
> liberals. He will suffer the Uncle Tom calls by
> the media and others who believe all blacks should
> be democrats and dependent on EEOC and welfare.
I applaud Cain. I hope he wins the Republican nomination. He will do more to help Obama win than any Democrat can do.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
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> Cain is not acting as properly determined by
> liberals. He will suffer the Uncle Tom calls by
> the media and others who believe all blacks should
> be democrats and dependent on EEOC and welfare.
I applaud Cain. I hope he wins the Republican nomination. He will do more to help Obama win than any Democrat can do.
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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm
Re: Herman Cain Has Never Before Held Elected Office
Posted by:
Logic
()
Date: October 06, 2011 04:13PM
To answer Mr. Weesel Eyes obviously Mr. Obama's "8 years" of political office experience hasn't helped him in the area of compentency as President. Eight years of which the majority was spent in the Illinois legislature where he only voted an opinion on 9 bills and all of the other bills he had no committment convicition since he voted "present". One year+ in the US Senate which most of the time he spent "running for President".
Also consider the fact that Mr. Obama had no fiscal experience managing or dispensing a budget and added to that he had no experience as an administrator or director of "multiple departments" with diverse responsibilities. You can also add the fact the Mr. Obama never had any direct hires or ever had to budget a payroll.
You indicated that Mr. Cain's business expreience; where he had to be inovative, fiscally responsible and of course provide for the well being of many people through the payrolls his business' generated was not qualifier. I submit that in comparison to Mr. Obama, Mr. Cain is far and beyone the more experienced in many of the issues which face the President.
To date Mr. Obama has deflected every issue/bill to "someone" other then himself to structure. In this way he was only "present" as opposed to engaged, Just as he was in the Illinois senate. This includes his new "Jobs Bill" which has not been completely written and therefore no vote can actually be taken in either the House or the Senate. It is another example of "let's pass something" so we can find out what is in it. However, if you listen to the rethoric the main thrust of "jobs" creation proposed is in construction and in retention of teachers in selected school districts in the US. If you have ever read (and I have) a government contract for roads and bridges then you will know that the contract requires the worker to be members of a UNION. Yes, the contracts do spell this out. Also the retention of teachers covers UNION members. Tell me, how does this help accountants, sales professionals, computer programmers, store managers, clerks, roofers, carpenters, drywall installers, millwrights, telemarketers etc.? The answer is that it doesn't. There is only one segment of the population which is targeted and that is UNIONS.
Mr. Obama a leader? Give me a break!
I am truly sorry that Mr. Obama is not a leader. As an American I always want the President to be a strong leader fully engaged in the process of directing our country, regardless of party. A strong Presidential leader gives the citizens trust that we are in good hands, and projects to the rest of the world that we will all be guided through any crisis. Mr. Obama has failed us and it is time for him to acknowledge his inadaquacies and step aside for another viable Democratic candidate choice so that we as Americans can have a choice in 2012 of two viable candidates.
Also consider the fact that Mr. Obama had no fiscal experience managing or dispensing a budget and added to that he had no experience as an administrator or director of "multiple departments" with diverse responsibilities. You can also add the fact the Mr. Obama never had any direct hires or ever had to budget a payroll.
You indicated that Mr. Cain's business expreience; where he had to be inovative, fiscally responsible and of course provide for the well being of many people through the payrolls his business' generated was not qualifier. I submit that in comparison to Mr. Obama, Mr. Cain is far and beyone the more experienced in many of the issues which face the President.
To date Mr. Obama has deflected every issue/bill to "someone" other then himself to structure. In this way he was only "present" as opposed to engaged, Just as he was in the Illinois senate. This includes his new "Jobs Bill" which has not been completely written and therefore no vote can actually be taken in either the House or the Senate. It is another example of "let's pass something" so we can find out what is in it. However, if you listen to the rethoric the main thrust of "jobs" creation proposed is in construction and in retention of teachers in selected school districts in the US. If you have ever read (and I have) a government contract for roads and bridges then you will know that the contract requires the worker to be members of a UNION. Yes, the contracts do spell this out. Also the retention of teachers covers UNION members. Tell me, how does this help accountants, sales professionals, computer programmers, store managers, clerks, roofers, carpenters, drywall installers, millwrights, telemarketers etc.? The answer is that it doesn't. There is only one segment of the population which is targeted and that is UNIONS.
Mr. Obama a leader? Give me a break!
I am truly sorry that Mr. Obama is not a leader. As an American I always want the President to be a strong leader fully engaged in the process of directing our country, regardless of party. A strong Presidential leader gives the citizens trust that we are in good hands, and projects to the rest of the world that we will all be guided through any crisis. Mr. Obama has failed us and it is time for him to acknowledge his inadaquacies and step aside for another viable Democratic candidate choice so that we as Americans can have a choice in 2012 of two viable candidates.