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Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: welfarejunkie ()
Date: September 29, 2011 01:14PM

Turns out Welfare recipeints are not on drugs....mostly.


"The (FL) Department of Children and Families reports that since July, when the drug-testing program started, only 2.5 percent of welfare applicants have failed.

By contrast, about 8.9 percent of the general population illegally uses some kind of drug, according to the 2010 National Survey on Drug Use and Health."



Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/24/2423049/an-offer-legislators-cant-refuse.html#ixzz1ZMXZPg5n

So that is a waste of time...lets move on to the next myth

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: JBass ()
Date: September 29, 2011 01:29PM

So, 2.5% of the 52,500 that would be tested annually fail, thats 1312 people. Lets say they collect $500 a mont each (Im sure this is on the low end) thats $6000 x 1312 or $7,875,000 in saved benefits compared to a program operating cost of 1.27 Million annually. Explain to me how this is a waste of time and money. Fucking spoon fed retard. Think for yourself.

Fucking moron.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: jbalo ()
Date: September 29, 2011 01:54PM

just blind party following assumptions.

JBass - don't you know that using math to prove a point is irrefutable? oh....right. that was the point.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 29, 2011 02:28PM

Yeah - sure, let's just overlook the folks who do use drugs and go on welfare so that we can use welfare funds to support their habit.

NOT.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: September 29, 2011 04:26PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Yeah - sure, let's just overlook the folks who do
> use drugs and go on welfare so that we can use
> welfare funds to support their habit.
>
> NOT.


that's one hell of a master plan. I'll go on welfare to pay for my drugs. If you really want drugs, you don't have to pay for them. I'm just saying, I don't see these junkie welfare people living high on the hog. Why so angry at welfare recipients? Why aren't you this angry at the people who run the banks and shit?

Nice use of a two-decade old Saturday Night Live catchphrase, Reggie.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Jbassownedbyreality ()
Date: September 30, 2011 08:07AM

JBass Wrote:
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> So, 2.5% of the 52,500 that would be tested
> annually fail, thats 1312 people. Lets say they
> collect $500 a mont each (Im sure this is on the
> low end) thats $6000 x 1312 or $7,875,000 in saved
> benefits compared to a program operating cost of
> 1.27 Million annually. Explain to me how this is
> a waste of time and money. Fucking spoon fed
> retard. Think for yourself.
>
> Fucking moron.


Your reality must be scary...but in real world"

"Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.

That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month’s worth of rejected applicants."

http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/3/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2011 11:12AM

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> that's one hell of a master plan. I'll go on
> welfare to pay for my drugs. If you really want
> drugs, you don't have to pay for them. I'm just
> saying, I don't see these junkie welfare people
> living high on the hog. Why so angry at welfare
> recipients? Why aren't you this angry at the
> people who run the banks and shit?

If you use illegal drugs, then I guess you know how to get money to pay for your habit, so obviously you don't need welfare, eh? Who cares if they live high on the hog or not - there are rules and laws - they don't want to follow them and get caught with drugs tests, they have no one to blame but themselves.

As far as banks go - how does that enter this conversation other than some fucked up logic you decided to employ? Really? As far as your threats of offing yourself, you are officially the boy who cried wolf. A coward of the first order.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Ellipsis ()
Date: September 30, 2011 11:24AM

Why not just do away with welfare?

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2011 11:31AM

Ellipsis Wrote:
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> Why not just do away with welfare?

I believe there has to be some system in place for folks who, through no fault of their own, are totally fucked by the system. Not long term, but certainly something to help make it through the rough periods. It should be tied to retraining, or even jobs like local jurisdiction clean-up/maintenance crews.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Welfare ()
Date: September 30, 2011 12:02PM

I find it sad how republicans think people on welfare are "living high on the hog."

I've met people living on welfare. Most barely have enough cash to feed their kids, pay rent and get the kids supplies and clothing for school. A lot are single Moms who also work part time.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Why? ()
Date: September 30, 2011 12:04PM

If you are poor you should NOT have kids.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 30, 2011 12:06PM

Welfare Wrote:
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> I find it sad how republicans think people on
> welfare are "living high on the hog."
>
> I've met people living on welfare. Most barely
> have enough cash to feed their kids, pay rent and
> get the kids supplies and clothing for school. A
> lot are single Moms who also work part time.

Talk to Johnny about that - I would certainly not characterize welfare recipients that way. But if they have enough money to do drugs on welfare, then obviously they have other sources of income that could be better spent elsewhere.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: SelfTard ()
Date: September 30, 2011 12:07PM

Ellipsis Wrote:
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> Why not just do away with welfare?

Please tell me you were not born in the US.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Ellipsis ()
Date: October 02, 2011 12:50AM

Request denied.

SelfTard Wrote:
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> Ellipsis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not just do away with welfare?
>
> Please tell me you were not born in the US.

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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: October 03, 2011 09:50PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Mr. Misery Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > that's one hell of a master plan. I'll go on
> > welfare to pay for my drugs. If you really want
> > drugs, you don't have to pay for them. I'm just
> > saying, I don't see these junkie welfare people
> > living high on the hog. Why so angry at welfare
> > recipients? Why aren't you this angry at the
> > people who run the banks and shit?
>
> If you use illegal drugs, then I guess you know
> how to get money to pay for your habit, so
> obviously you don't need welfare, eh? Who cares if
> they live high on the hog or not - there are rules
> and laws - they don't want to follow them and get
> caught with drugs tests, they have no one to blame
> but themselves.
>
> As far as banks go - how does that enter this
> conversation other than some fucked up logic you
> decided to employ? Really? As far as your threats
> of offing yourself, you are officially the boy who
> cried wolf. A coward of the first order.


I bring up banks because you are a Bill O'Reilly neo-con conservative republican with a square head and hair that doesn't move. You wear a suit during the day, you sleep in your suit at night, you shower in your suit in the morning, you unzip your slacks and poke your dingus out through the fly to engage in sexual congress with your wife, and you read things like Ayn Rand. You're stupid.

Your hair doesn't move. It's a big block of hair, like Trent Lott's hair, and it doesn't move, because you're a big dumb conservative who hates and fears your neighbor instead of the people who control you. You're dumb. Go fuck your wife in her ass, with your suit on.
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Re: Proof: Drug testing welfare recipients, waste of time and money
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: October 03, 2011 09:51PM

I hate you.

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