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Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
Ronaldo7
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Date: November 28, 2011 02:19PM
Nigga please
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
no
()
Date: November 28, 2011 02:57PM
sorry Wrote:
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> If they are willing to send thousands to endless
> war and die why would they not be willing to kill
> a few thousand to do so. Your logic is flawed in
> so many ways. Hate to break it to you but there
> simply is a mountain of evidence suggesting that
> the official story is wrong, including explicit
> statements by members of the 911 Commission that
> this was a scam upon the American people. More
> than half of the victims families do not believe
> the official story because there was no real
> investigation done. The USGS and many other
> agencies found much evidence of thermite and nano
> thermite, reacted and un-reacted. All the
> concrete was pulverized to dust. The towers
> underwent one of the largest elevator shaft
> renovations the years prior to 911. All the work
> was done at night, and they cannot produce the
> records of what was done. The government sure as
> heck didn't do a good job investigating and
> deliberately hampered the efforts of
> investigators. Conspiracy or not, the government
> should've done a better job investigating and
> controlling the evidence and scene, and not let
> the public and schools reopen in NY when there
> were clear environmental hazards. You probably
> still believe the official story about JFK dont
> you?
Except that you just made up 90 percent of that. Im glad were now at the point where you conspirators are so desperate to have one be in existence that you just make up stuff
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> If they are willing to send thousands to endless
> war and die why would they not be willing to kill
> a few thousand to do so. Your logic is flawed in
> so many ways. Hate to break it to you but there
> simply is a mountain of evidence suggesting that
> the official story is wrong, including explicit
> statements by members of the 911 Commission that
> this was a scam upon the American people. More
> than half of the victims families do not believe
> the official story because there was no real
> investigation done. The USGS and many other
> agencies found much evidence of thermite and nano
> thermite, reacted and un-reacted. All the
> concrete was pulverized to dust. The towers
> underwent one of the largest elevator shaft
> renovations the years prior to 911. All the work
> was done at night, and they cannot produce the
> records of what was done. The government sure as
> heck didn't do a good job investigating and
> deliberately hampered the efforts of
> investigators. Conspiracy or not, the government
> should've done a better job investigating and
> controlling the evidence and scene, and not let
> the public and schools reopen in NY when there
> were clear environmental hazards. You probably
> still believe the official story about JFK dont
> you?
Except that you just made up 90 percent of that. Im glad were now at the point where you conspirators are so desperate to have one be in existence that you just make up stuff
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
please watch
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Date: November 28, 2011 03:03PM
911 Commission investigation funds: 15 million.
Monica Lewinski investigation: 30 million.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: November 28, 2011 03:13PM
no Wrote:
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> Except that you just made up 90 percent of that.
> Im glad were now at the point where you
> conspirators are so desperate to have one be in
> existence that you just make up stuff
But he said there was a “mountain of evidence” and even though he has yet to provide any proof, or facts regarding any of the claims, it must be true because he said so! Plus, it was on the internet and everything on the internet is true. Especially if it reinforces what you already/want to believe!
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> Except that you just made up 90 percent of that.
> Im glad were now at the point where you
> conspirators are so desperate to have one be in
> existence that you just make up stuff
But he said there was a “mountain of evidence” and even though he has yet to provide any proof, or facts regarding any of the claims, it must be true because he said so! Plus, it was on the internet and everything on the internet is true. Especially if it reinforces what you already/want to believe!
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 28, 2011 03:38PM
some interesting info Wrote:
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> I just wanted to get some reactions to the
> following points that have boggled my mind
> regarding the circumstances around 911.
>
> 3.) All fighter planes that could have protected
> NY and DC were scrambled out over the Atlantic
> ocean and NC. Interesting we would leave those 2
> cities unprotected.
>
> 4.) The training exercise occuring at the time of
> the attacks was for terrorist hijacking of
> airplanes and so there were hundreds of fake radar
> blips on screen.
Totally false. At the time of the hijacking there were only 6 planes detailed to be "ready alert" types of interceptors for the entire eastern seaboard. Not sure where you are getting your information from, but it is probably akin to the guy in France who says that a missile is what hit the Pentagon even though there were hundreds of eye-witnesses to the event. Sorry that there aren't cameras 24/7 covering every square inch of the outside of the building, but - it happens. Before 9/11 it was not that huge a priority to put cameras on every square inch of the grounds when you had protective fencing and other measures to keep ground threats away from the building. Undoubtedly they would have little chance of having cameras in place to catch the airborne ones...
9/11 10th Anniversary: F-15 pilot Dan Nash recalls response
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/9-11_10th_anniversary_f-15_pilot_dan_nash.html
...Otis kept two of its roughly 18 F-15 fighters -- as well as one or two “spares” -- on alert, fully armed and ready to scramble. In all, Nash said, six fighters were on alert status to defend the eastern seaboard each day in September 2001: the two at Otis, two at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia and two at Homestead Air Reserve Base in Florida....
...
...As the eagle flies, it’s 153 miles from Cape Cod’s Otis Air National Guard Base to New York City. Duffy and Nash cruised at a supersonic Mach 1.2. “We got there as fast as we could,” Nash, now a lieutenant colonel with the Air Guard's 104th Fighter Wing at Barnes Regional Airport in Westfield, recalled recently.
They were 70 miles out when an air traffic controller told them that a “second plane” had hit the World Trade Center. “We were scrambled on a suspected hijacking of American (Flight)11,” Nash said. “And, that’s all we knew. So when they said a second aircraft had hit the World Trade Center, my reaction was, ‘Well, what happened to American 11?’ Because nobody was talking about that anymore.” ...
The official scramble order from the Northeast Air Defense Sector came in to the Otis command post at 8:46 a.m. -- the same moment that Flight 11 struck the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Nash and Duffy were in the air at 8:52 a.m., Vittner wrote, flying on full after-burners...
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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> I just wanted to get some reactions to the
> following points that have boggled my mind
> regarding the circumstances around 911.
>
> 3.) All fighter planes that could have protected
> NY and DC were scrambled out over the Atlantic
> ocean and NC. Interesting we would leave those 2
> cities unprotected.
>
> 4.) The training exercise occuring at the time of
> the attacks was for terrorist hijacking of
> airplanes and so there were hundreds of fake radar
> blips on screen.
Totally false. At the time of the hijacking there were only 6 planes detailed to be "ready alert" types of interceptors for the entire eastern seaboard. Not sure where you are getting your information from, but it is probably akin to the guy in France who says that a missile is what hit the Pentagon even though there were hundreds of eye-witnesses to the event. Sorry that there aren't cameras 24/7 covering every square inch of the outside of the building, but - it happens. Before 9/11 it was not that huge a priority to put cameras on every square inch of the grounds when you had protective fencing and other measures to keep ground threats away from the building. Undoubtedly they would have little chance of having cameras in place to catch the airborne ones...
9/11 10th Anniversary: F-15 pilot Dan Nash recalls response
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/9-11_10th_anniversary_f-15_pilot_dan_nash.html
...Otis kept two of its roughly 18 F-15 fighters -- as well as one or two “spares” -- on alert, fully armed and ready to scramble. In all, Nash said, six fighters were on alert status to defend the eastern seaboard each day in September 2001: the two at Otis, two at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia and two at Homestead Air Reserve Base in Florida....
...
...As the eagle flies, it’s 153 miles from Cape Cod’s Otis Air National Guard Base to New York City. Duffy and Nash cruised at a supersonic Mach 1.2. “We got there as fast as we could,” Nash, now a lieutenant colonel with the Air Guard's 104th Fighter Wing at Barnes Regional Airport in Westfield, recalled recently.
They were 70 miles out when an air traffic controller told them that a “second plane” had hit the World Trade Center. “We were scrambled on a suspected hijacking of American (Flight)11,” Nash said. “And, that’s all we knew. So when they said a second aircraft had hit the World Trade Center, my reaction was, ‘Well, what happened to American 11?’ Because nobody was talking about that anymore.” ...
The official scramble order from the Northeast Air Defense Sector came in to the Otis command post at 8:46 a.m. -- the same moment that Flight 11 struck the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Nash and Duffy were in the air at 8:52 a.m., Vittner wrote, flying on full after-burners...
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
doitlive
()
Date: November 28, 2011 03:41PM
Clearly you have not researched the topic enough. I Wanted to believe it!? I used to believe the official story until the people that wrote it said it was a farce. How is that so hard for you to understand? 6 out of 10 of them have discredited their own report...how can you possibly defend it.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
nothing you said was true
()
Date: November 28, 2011 03:50PM
doitlive Wrote:
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> Clearly you have not researched the topic enough.
> I Wanted to believe it!? I used to believe the
> official story until the people that wrote it said
> it was a farce. How is that so hard for you to
> understand? 6 out of 10 of them have discredited
> their own report...how can you possibly defend it.
And once again youre just making stuff up to try and support your claim. You people arent looking for answers, youre looking for the answers you want to hear and will not accept anything else. There is video of what happened. There are flight recordings, reports from other pilots, people on the ground, live news feeds, phone calls from passengers that tried to retake the plane. The evience overwhelming supports the official story as does legitimate science. But that isnt good enough because for whatever reason (probably hatred of the government) you refuse to believe it all and just make all these unfounded untrue claims to support your story. Your "facts" (even calling them that is an insult to actual facts) come out of no where with no support other than from other conspiracy theorists.
That report wasnt even investigating what had happened we all know what had happened, it was investigating how it was able to happen and what led to that day.
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> Clearly you have not researched the topic enough.
> I Wanted to believe it!? I used to believe the
> official story until the people that wrote it said
> it was a farce. How is that so hard for you to
> understand? 6 out of 10 of them have discredited
> their own report...how can you possibly defend it.
And once again youre just making stuff up to try and support your claim. You people arent looking for answers, youre looking for the answers you want to hear and will not accept anything else. There is video of what happened. There are flight recordings, reports from other pilots, people on the ground, live news feeds, phone calls from passengers that tried to retake the plane. The evience overwhelming supports the official story as does legitimate science. But that isnt good enough because for whatever reason (probably hatred of the government) you refuse to believe it all and just make all these unfounded untrue claims to support your story. Your "facts" (even calling them that is an insult to actual facts) come out of no where with no support other than from other conspiracy theorists.
That report wasnt even investigating what had happened we all know what had happened, it was investigating how it was able to happen and what led to that day.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
youwillneverfindyourboogieman
()
Date: November 28, 2011 03:59PM
I have several officemates and fellow neighbors saw the plane hit the Pentagon. They said it was clear as day, 757 American Airlines.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
thetruthreincarnated
()
Date: November 28, 2011 11:12PM
Do your own research on this topic. It is a very big topic that transcends 9/11. If you do not think that nearly everyone you know cannot be wrong about something....well then I feel kind of bad for you.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
thetruthreincarnated
()
Date: November 28, 2011 11:19PM
woops didn't mean to type a double negative on that last post.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: November 29, 2011 09:43AM
thetruthreincarnated Wrote:
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> Do your own research on this topic.
Please stop saying this. The research has been done. The only people still “researching” are those looking to connect dots and cobble together baseless theories devoid of proof. Good luck with that.
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> Do your own research on this topic.
Please stop saying this. The research has been done. The only people still “researching” are those looking to connect dots and cobble together baseless theories devoid of proof. Good luck with that.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
nothing you said was true
()
Date: November 29, 2011 10:50AM
thetruthreincarnated Wrote:
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> woops didn't mean to type a double negative on
> that last post.
And what you mean by that is continue to look around the internet until you find a bunch of people making a bunch of stuff up to try and disprove something that is so obviously true.
Since youre so big on doing your own research on things I want you to do your own research on everything. I want you showing up at work on federal holidays until youve done your own research and can prove it your self that they have the day right. Stop sending your kids too school where they just learn what the government wants them to learn. You should be at home doing your own research with them so they know what you want them to know.
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> woops didn't mean to type a double negative on
> that last post.
And what you mean by that is continue to look around the internet until you find a bunch of people making a bunch of stuff up to try and disprove something that is so obviously true.
Since youre so big on doing your own research on things I want you to do your own research on everything. I want you showing up at work on federal holidays until youve done your own research and can prove it your self that they have the day right. Stop sending your kids too school where they just learn what the government wants them to learn. You should be at home doing your own research with them so they know what you want them to know.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
nothing you said was true
()
Date: November 29, 2011 10:53AM
thetruthreincarnated Wrote:
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>If you do not
> think that nearly everyone you know cannot be
> wrong about something....well then I feel kind of
> bad for you.
Also let me get this straight. So were supposed to not believe everything we know and what people we know say who actually saw what happened and there are about thousand different things proving their story true. But you arent supposed to think that your mentally disturbed conspiracy friends are wrong because they just told you a bunch of lies?
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>If you do not
> think that nearly everyone you know cannot be
> wrong about something....well then I feel kind of
> bad for you.
Also let me get this straight. So were supposed to not believe everything we know and what people we know say who actually saw what happened and there are about thousand different things proving their story true. But you arent supposed to think that your mentally disturbed conspiracy friends are wrong because they just told you a bunch of lies?
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
wakeupgrababrushandputonalilmakeup
()
Date: November 29, 2011 12:42PM
5 of the hijackers have turned up alive in the mid east since the attacks and have been interviewed on tv.
wake up.
wake up.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
nothing you said was true
()
Date: November 29, 2011 12:53PM
wakeupgrababrushandputonalilmakeup Wrote:
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> 5 of the hijackers have turned up alive in the mid
> east since the attacks and have been interviewed
> on tv.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> wake up.
So you posting a video of a retired General who is just looking for face time on TV and wants to harm that administration politically should mean something why?
And no the hijackers on the plane arent alive. The only people saying all the hijackers are alive are the ones trying to say the government controlled the planes remotely.
Plus I also love how it couldnt possibly be that they ID the wrong person as a hijacker, it has to be that its an inside job.
Really is the conspiracy theory peoples plan just if we throw enough crap at the wall eventually something will stick?
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> 5 of the hijackers have turned up alive in the mid
> east since the attacks and have been interviewed
> on tv.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> wake up.
So you posting a video of a retired General who is just looking for face time on TV and wants to harm that administration politically should mean something why?
And no the hijackers on the plane arent alive. The only people saying all the hijackers are alive are the ones trying to say the government controlled the planes remotely.
Plus I also love how it couldnt possibly be that they ID the wrong person as a hijacker, it has to be that its an inside job.
Really is the conspiracy theory peoples plan just if we throw enough crap at the wall eventually something will stick?
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
Registered Voter
()
Date: November 29, 2011 12:54PM
wakeupgrababrushandputonalilmakeup Wrote:
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> 5 of the hijackers have turned up alive in the mid
> east since the attacks and have been interviewed
> on tv.
>
Not sure what you are trying to prove with these videos - there is no smoking gun there as far as what was going on. Where do you have proof of the hijackers showing up?
Maybe you should start taking your meds again. Because nothing you are saying makes any sense, nor does it jive with any of the things you are trying to point out as "truth". Maybe you should talk with some of the people that were actually there - that might be a start. Rather than these whacko conspirators who were never near any of the sites in question, and have no clue what they are talking about.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2011 12:54PM by Registered Voter.
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> 5 of the hijackers have turned up alive in the mid
> east since the attacks and have been interviewed
> on tv.
>
Not sure what you are trying to prove with these videos - there is no smoking gun there as far as what was going on. Where do you have proof of the hijackers showing up?
Maybe you should start taking your meds again. Because nothing you are saying makes any sense, nor does it jive with any of the things you are trying to point out as "truth". Maybe you should talk with some of the people that were actually there - that might be a start. Rather than these whacko conspirators who were never near any of the sites in question, and have no clue what they are talking about.
If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/29/2011 12:54PM by Registered Voter.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
okay.....
()
Date: November 29, 2011 03:52PM
There is no smoking gun that is going to quickly prove the case either way on this issue. You can't prove from just one shred of evidence that the media is controlled, that the federal reserve is run by private banks, that our income taxes do not pay for public services but go to private hands, that the information in the school textbooks is manipulated, that both parties are operated by the same special interests, that lobbyists dictate what congress decides not the people, that the presidents that made our currency less vulnerable to manipulation by private hands were either assassinated or had assassination attempts on them (lincoln, garfield, andrew jackson, jfk), that this economic implosion is by design and is not part of the 'business cycle', the false left-right paradigm is designed to disguise the real powers behind the scenes and allow them to transfer the political blame onto puppet politicians and the dual party system. However, if you do your homework and use your brain you will understand that these things are true, then it is not hard to see that the anomalies and holes in the official 9/11 story are very telling of an inside job.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
More Complete
()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:09PM
This is hilarious! First you say this…
okay..... Wrote:
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> the false left-right paradigm is designed to
> disguise the real powers behind the scenes
> and allow them to transfer the political blame
> onto puppet politicians and the dual party
> system.
And then you immediately follow it up with…
okay..... Wrote:
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> However, if you do your homework and use your brain
BWaaaHahahaha!! The funniest thing is, you have no idea how ignorant you sound. In fact, just the opposite, you think everyone else is ignorant and you’re “doing your homework” and “using your brain”!! Oh man it’s just too damn funny!!!
okay..... Wrote:
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> the false left-right paradigm is designed to
> disguise the real powers behind the scenes
> and allow them to transfer the political blame
> onto puppet politicians and the dual party
> system.
And then you immediately follow it up with…
okay..... Wrote:
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> However, if you do your homework and use your brain
BWaaaHahahaha!! The funniest thing is, you have no idea how ignorant you sound. In fact, just the opposite, you think everyone else is ignorant and you’re “doing your homework” and “using your brain”!! Oh man it’s just too damn funny!!!
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
no
()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:09PM
okay..... Wrote:
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> There is no smoking gun that is going to quickly
> prove the case either way on this issue. You can't
> prove from just one shred of evidence that the
> media is controlled, that the federal reserve is
> run by private banks, that our income taxes do not
> pay for public services but go to private hands,
> that the information in the school textbooks is
> manipulated, that both parties are operated by the
> same special interests, that lobbyists dictate
> what congress decides not the people, that the
> presidents that made our currency less vulnerable
> to manipulation by private hands were either
> assassinated or had assassination attempts on them
> (lincoln, garfield, andrew jackson, jfk), that
> this economic implosion is by design and is not
> part of the 'business cycle', the false left-right
> paradigm is designed to disguise the real powers
> behind the scenes and allow them to transfer the
> political blame onto puppet politicians and the
> dual party system. However, if you do your
> homework and use your brain you will understand
> that these things are true, then it is not hard to
> see that the anomalies and holes in the official
> 9/11 story are very telling of an inside job.
And there it is. Ladies and gentlemen the truth comes out. Now not only is 9-11 a conspiracy but the whole world is.
Somehow you managed to sprinkle some truth into all this. Both parties take donations from everyone and Obama was the largest recipient of wall street donations. Text books are manipulated some as history is written by the winner and now we have to have them all politically correct but the basic information is true.
The rest of what you said is just false. Theres just no other way to put it. The idea that everyone is going to do what a small group of people do without making any attempts at seizing their power is laughable. I also like how you mention assassination attempts on presidents before the secret service was even around like it would require some big conspiracy to carry it out.
If you used your brain you would know what happened on 9-11. If you did your homework you would know what happened. The only holes are in conspiracy theories. Its sad how desperate some people are to believe that everything is a big conspiracy. If this is what you want to believe theres nothing anyone can do to help as you are immune to logic and reason, but youll be chasing ghosts your whole life
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> There is no smoking gun that is going to quickly
> prove the case either way on this issue. You can't
> prove from just one shred of evidence that the
> media is controlled, that the federal reserve is
> run by private banks, that our income taxes do not
> pay for public services but go to private hands,
> that the information in the school textbooks is
> manipulated, that both parties are operated by the
> same special interests, that lobbyists dictate
> what congress decides not the people, that the
> presidents that made our currency less vulnerable
> to manipulation by private hands were either
> assassinated or had assassination attempts on them
> (lincoln, garfield, andrew jackson, jfk), that
> this economic implosion is by design and is not
> part of the 'business cycle', the false left-right
> paradigm is designed to disguise the real powers
> behind the scenes and allow them to transfer the
> political blame onto puppet politicians and the
> dual party system. However, if you do your
> homework and use your brain you will understand
> that these things are true, then it is not hard to
> see that the anomalies and holes in the official
> 9/11 story are very telling of an inside job.
And there it is. Ladies and gentlemen the truth comes out. Now not only is 9-11 a conspiracy but the whole world is.
Somehow you managed to sprinkle some truth into all this. Both parties take donations from everyone and Obama was the largest recipient of wall street donations. Text books are manipulated some as history is written by the winner and now we have to have them all politically correct but the basic information is true.
The rest of what you said is just false. Theres just no other way to put it. The idea that everyone is going to do what a small group of people do without making any attempts at seizing their power is laughable. I also like how you mention assassination attempts on presidents before the secret service was even around like it would require some big conspiracy to carry it out.
If you used your brain you would know what happened on 9-11. If you did your homework you would know what happened. The only holes are in conspiracy theories. Its sad how desperate some people are to believe that everything is a big conspiracy. If this is what you want to believe theres nothing anyone can do to help as you are immune to logic and reason, but youll be chasing ghosts your whole life
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
okay....
()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:35PM
well these are the responses I expected. Yep 9/11 was done by muslim terrorists, I'm sure Obama or Mitt Romney or Perry or whoever you are gonna vote for really cares about you. Yeah the economy will be fixed eventually they are really trying its just so difficult! And TSA is combing your hair and groping you because they care about you! The constitution is so outdated anyway this is clearly a different era there are terrorists hiding under every rock. Im sure the news has the same talking points because those are clearly the most important issues of the day and there is nothing else going on in the world that might be worthy of front page headlines. There is no political agenda behind it if you think so you are a looney conspiracy theorists!
Its pretty entertaining to see all these people laugh at me when they actually believe things like building 7 fell into its own footprint at freefall speed because of 'structural damage' or that our government killed 1.5 million Iraqi's in the name of 'homeland security and freedom'. So yep Im a 'conspiracy theorist' I am totally crazy and just wrong about pretty much everything.
Okay have fun I'm sure you will love the new world order!
Its pretty entertaining to see all these people laugh at me when they actually believe things like building 7 fell into its own footprint at freefall speed because of 'structural damage' or that our government killed 1.5 million Iraqi's in the name of 'homeland security and freedom'. So yep Im a 'conspiracy theorist' I am totally crazy and just wrong about pretty much everything.
Okay have fun I'm sure you will love the new world order!
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
no
()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:53PM
okay.... Wrote:
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> well these are the responses I expected. Yep 9/11
> was done by muslim terrorists, I'm sure Obama or
> Mitt Romney or Perry or whoever you are gonna vote
> for really cares about you. Yeah the economy will
> be fixed eventually they are really trying its
> just so difficult! And TSA is combing your hair
> and groping you because they care about you! The
> constitution is so outdated anyway this is clearly
> a different era there are terrorists hiding under
> every rock. Im sure the news has the same talking
> points because those are clearly the most
> important issues of the day and there is nothing
> else going on in the world that might be worthy of
> front page headlines. There is no political agenda
> behind it if you think so you are a looney
> conspiracy theorists!
>
> Its pretty entertaining to see all these people
> laugh at me when they actually believe things like
> building 7 fell into its own footprint at freefall
> speed because of 'structural damage' or that our
> government killed 1.5 million Iraqi's in the name
> of 'homeland security and freedom'. So yep Im a
> 'conspiracy theorist' I am totally crazy and just
> wrong about pretty much everything.
>
> Okay have fun I'm sure you will love the new world
> order!
And you just proved the point. You think our government is a murderer. TSA agents may not care about YOU individually but yes they care about not having planes blow up on their watch.
No one ever said economy and things like that arent influenced by political agendas. If they werent medicare would be over hauled and we wouldnt have obama care getting ready to be a huge drain on the budget. That said implying that this political influence extends to turning civilian airliners into guided missiles is asinine.
Its hysterical how you try and make it like everyone else is the crazy one and you are the ONLY one that has it figured out. Maybe you arent motivated by government hatred after all. Maybe youre motivated by your own ego. Figuring all this out would mean youre smarter than everyone else so you need this to be true.
And yes you are the EXACT definition of a conspiracy theorist. You also do imply that you may have some underlying mental issues with your unnatural distrust of absolutely everything and your belief that you are the only one to know the truth and EVERYONE else is wrong. You very well could fit the crazy bill.
You do also realize that your entire conspiracy theory is the exact same thing as the plot from prison break.
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> well these are the responses I expected. Yep 9/11
> was done by muslim terrorists, I'm sure Obama or
> Mitt Romney or Perry or whoever you are gonna vote
> for really cares about you. Yeah the economy will
> be fixed eventually they are really trying its
> just so difficult! And TSA is combing your hair
> and groping you because they care about you! The
> constitution is so outdated anyway this is clearly
> a different era there are terrorists hiding under
> every rock. Im sure the news has the same talking
> points because those are clearly the most
> important issues of the day and there is nothing
> else going on in the world that might be worthy of
> front page headlines. There is no political agenda
> behind it if you think so you are a looney
> conspiracy theorists!
>
> Its pretty entertaining to see all these people
> laugh at me when they actually believe things like
> building 7 fell into its own footprint at freefall
> speed because of 'structural damage' or that our
> government killed 1.5 million Iraqi's in the name
> of 'homeland security and freedom'. So yep Im a
> 'conspiracy theorist' I am totally crazy and just
> wrong about pretty much everything.
>
> Okay have fun I'm sure you will love the new world
> order!
And you just proved the point. You think our government is a murderer. TSA agents may not care about YOU individually but yes they care about not having planes blow up on their watch.
No one ever said economy and things like that arent influenced by political agendas. If they werent medicare would be over hauled and we wouldnt have obama care getting ready to be a huge drain on the budget. That said implying that this political influence extends to turning civilian airliners into guided missiles is asinine.
Its hysterical how you try and make it like everyone else is the crazy one and you are the ONLY one that has it figured out. Maybe you arent motivated by government hatred after all. Maybe youre motivated by your own ego. Figuring all this out would mean youre smarter than everyone else so you need this to be true.
And yes you are the EXACT definition of a conspiracy theorist. You also do imply that you may have some underlying mental issues with your unnatural distrust of absolutely everything and your belief that you are the only one to know the truth and EVERYONE else is wrong. You very well could fit the crazy bill.
You do also realize that your entire conspiracy theory is the exact same thing as the plot from prison break.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
okay....
()
Date: November 30, 2011 01:53PM
Never watched prison break....But my point is (regardless of what you believe) that the people that automatically label the 'conspiracy theorists' as crazy or whatever are ignoring certain things. If you think massive conspiracies can't be real you need an in depth history lesson.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
no
()
Date: November 30, 2011 02:49PM
okay.... Wrote:
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> Never watched prison break....But my point is
> (regardless of what you believe) that the people
> that automatically label the 'conspiracy
> theorists' as crazy or whatever are ignoring
> certain things. If you think massive conspiracies
> can't be real you need an in depth history lesson.
You nailed a main part of the plot 100% of prison break.
Conspiracies can happen. The largest conspiracy in the history of the world during the time in history when the most information is known and EVERYTHING gets uncovered but this is supposedly supposed to have been kept secret for what two decades now? And no i dont need a history lesson, people need to stop acting like this is the 1930s where things that were allowed back then are not allowed now.
When supposedly did this NWO show up at the Senate and Congress and let them know theyre all just jeep that are needed to keep their cover? What if a new member doesnt want to go along with it? Not to mention the countless sources of evidence proving the 9-11 attack is what it was said to be which you think is your evidence of the NWO.
You need a lesson in logic and reason if you think people should just believe you because you say so or some wack job website says so. When ever something in this so called conspiracy you are promoting gets looked at logically and with facts it falls apart right away.
The conspiracy theories are and should continue to be labeled as people who arent entirely there as long as they continue to throw out asinine theories with no facts and just make up stuff to support theyre theory. Its up to YOU people to find some hardcore evidence to unravel the whole thing that you believe exists. You wont be finding what you need on blog websites like youve been using. Maybe you should watch Prison Break and see how Michael brought down The Company for ideas
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> Never watched prison break....But my point is
> (regardless of what you believe) that the people
> that automatically label the 'conspiracy
> theorists' as crazy or whatever are ignoring
> certain things. If you think massive conspiracies
> can't be real you need an in depth history lesson.
You nailed a main part of the plot 100% of prison break.
Conspiracies can happen. The largest conspiracy in the history of the world during the time in history when the most information is known and EVERYTHING gets uncovered but this is supposedly supposed to have been kept secret for what two decades now? And no i dont need a history lesson, people need to stop acting like this is the 1930s where things that were allowed back then are not allowed now.
When supposedly did this NWO show up at the Senate and Congress and let them know theyre all just jeep that are needed to keep their cover? What if a new member doesnt want to go along with it? Not to mention the countless sources of evidence proving the 9-11 attack is what it was said to be which you think is your evidence of the NWO.
You need a lesson in logic and reason if you think people should just believe you because you say so or some wack job website says so. When ever something in this so called conspiracy you are promoting gets looked at logically and with facts it falls apart right away.
The conspiracy theories are and should continue to be labeled as people who arent entirely there as long as they continue to throw out asinine theories with no facts and just make up stuff to support theyre theory. Its up to YOU people to find some hardcore evidence to unravel the whole thing that you believe exists. You wont be finding what you need on blog websites like youve been using. Maybe you should watch Prison Break and see how Michael brought down The Company for ideas
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
okay....
()
Date: November 30, 2011 04:59PM
I don't expect anyone to just go believing anything I say. The subject is too big to just be like "okay I'm right because of this" on an internet forum. All I want to do is encourage people to question things.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
no
()
Date: November 30, 2011 05:41PM
okay.... Wrote:
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> I don't expect anyone to just go believing
> anything I say. The subject is too big to just be
> like "okay I'm right because of this" on an
> internet forum. All I want to do is encourage
> people to question things.
But your saying to question things that are clear as day. Theyre flight logs, theres video, theres phone calls, there live news feeds ect ect. They you get the absurd accusations it was really missiles or there were in air exchanges of passengers and just flat out lies about things like the guy trying to say that planes cant go fast or that no one in a simulator could hit a building or the air defense was all deployed over the sea before hand
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> I don't expect anyone to just go believing
> anything I say. The subject is too big to just be
> like "okay I'm right because of this" on an
> internet forum. All I want to do is encourage
> people to question things.
But your saying to question things that are clear as day. Theyre flight logs, theres video, theres phone calls, there live news feeds ect ect. They you get the absurd accusations it was really missiles or there were in air exchanges of passengers and just flat out lies about things like the guy trying to say that planes cant go fast or that no one in a simulator could hit a building or the air defense was all deployed over the sea before hand
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
FirstUsedBooks
()
Date: November 30, 2011 08:35PM
There are too many discrepancies in the official account to list them all here. Some things worth looking at though: The fast-tracking of immigration visas for many of the Saudis believed to have been flying the planes. The flight path of the plane said to have hit the Pentagon as given by witnesses (policemen, servicemen, gas station workers) to citizeninvestigation dot com. These witnesses (13 if I remember) all describe a path that would not have knocked down lamp poles. The calls from flight 11, which did not have airphones, particularly that of Barbara Olson, of which her husband has given contradictory accounts, and which the FBI said, in the Massaoui trial, did not occur.
Re: 9/11 was an inside job. PERIOD
Posted by:
try again
()
Date: December 02, 2011 03:40AM
FirstUsedBooks Wrote:
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> There are too many discrepancies in the official
> account to list them all here. Some things worth
> looking at though: The fast-tracking of
> immigration visas for many of the Saudis believed
> to have been flying the planes. The flight path of
> the plane said to have hit the Pentagon as given
> by witnesses (policemen, servicemen, gas station
> workers) to citizeninvestigation dot com. These
> witnesses (13 if I remember) all describe a path
> that would not have knocked down lamp poles. The
> calls from flight 11, which did not have
> airphones, particularly that of Barbara Olson, of
> which her husband has given contradictory
> accounts, and which the FBI said, in the Massaoui
> trial, did not occur.
Now you just changed my mind there werent air phones on the plane and 13 people said something different that contradict flight data, video feeds, and many many more people than 13? Im sold. You can go murder someone in front of a 1000 people in plain sight and a handful of them will give a conflicting story.
If only there was some sort of mobile calling device that they tell you not to use in flight but still works that they could have called someone on. The only conspiracy that may be present here is them trying to down play that cell phones actually work in flight. There is a slight chance that their service can disrupt the planes instruments causing the pilot to crash the plane into the ground coming down to steep during landing which is why they dont want you using them. They arent going to freely admit that they work just fine encouraging people to use them.
If only large explosions caused a concussive wave around the blast area too or the ground to shake that could explain the light polls going down that werent directly hit.
Im also very sold on the fast tracked visa problem. Thats very solid evidence since they are the only people to have ever gotten fast tracked by immigration, oh wait they arent and at least 3 had overstayed their visas. You dont allow visas to expire for people your trying to help pull off the largest conspiracy in the countries history.
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> There are too many discrepancies in the official
> account to list them all here. Some things worth
> looking at though: The fast-tracking of
> immigration visas for many of the Saudis believed
> to have been flying the planes. The flight path of
> the plane said to have hit the Pentagon as given
> by witnesses (policemen, servicemen, gas station
> workers) to citizeninvestigation dot com. These
> witnesses (13 if I remember) all describe a path
> that would not have knocked down lamp poles. The
> calls from flight 11, which did not have
> airphones, particularly that of Barbara Olson, of
> which her husband has given contradictory
> accounts, and which the FBI said, in the Massaoui
> trial, did not occur.
Now you just changed my mind there werent air phones on the plane and 13 people said something different that contradict flight data, video feeds, and many many more people than 13? Im sold. You can go murder someone in front of a 1000 people in plain sight and a handful of them will give a conflicting story.
If only there was some sort of mobile calling device that they tell you not to use in flight but still works that they could have called someone on. The only conspiracy that may be present here is them trying to down play that cell phones actually work in flight. There is a slight chance that their service can disrupt the planes instruments causing the pilot to crash the plane into the ground coming down to steep during landing which is why they dont want you using them. They arent going to freely admit that they work just fine encouraging people to use them.
If only large explosions caused a concussive wave around the blast area too or the ground to shake that could explain the light polls going down that werent directly hit.
Im also very sold on the fast tracked visa problem. Thats very solid evidence since they are the only people to have ever gotten fast tracked by immigration, oh wait they arent and at least 3 had overstayed their visas. You dont allow visas to expire for people your trying to help pull off the largest conspiracy in the countries history.