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why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
county cop
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Date: July 07, 2011 04:38AM
Ford wants cops to start driving a police interceptor Taurus. We test drove one this week and they suck! Front wheel drive and unibody construction have no place in law enforcement.
80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or the mercury version of it. Why would they mess with success like that?????
80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or the mercury version of it. Why would they mess with success like that?????
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
dika-dika
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Date: July 07, 2011 05:25AM
They look like COP only cars.
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Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Piggy
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Date: July 07, 2011 04:27PM
The new Ford Taurus appears to be an improvement with V6 motor that has more hp than the current 4.8L V8. This will of course mean better gas mileage.
Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the road better. The drawback is that these cars need a very heavy duty strut to keep up with the demands of police driving.
A unibody frame tends to be stronger with little to no welding spots for the frame.
Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the road better. The drawback is that these cars need a very heavy duty strut to keep up with the demands of police driving.
A unibody frame tends to be stronger with little to no welding spots for the frame.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
P Frampton
()
Date: July 07, 2011 04:31PM
I must have stayed up too late last night I read that as why they quit making LSD
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
fred the fed
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Date: July 07, 2011 05:42PM
county cop Wrote:
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> Ford wants cops to start driving a police
> interceptor Taurus. We test drove one this week
> and they suck! Front wheel drive and unibody
> construction have no place in law enforcement.
> 80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or
> the mercury version of it. Why would they mess
> with success like that?????
The police interceptor package is all wheel drive. The turbocharged v6 blows the doors off any crown vic. The tore-ass handles like its on rails and they make a crossover suv version of it. The car has a removable chip to tone the power down and govern speed to 90mph max when the worn cars are re-assigned or sold off as surplus.
Only down side is the unibody will make it much more likely to be totaled in a crash and cause the taxpayers to buy replacements. Crash survival rates are expected to be higher.
Ford is doing it right, we all pay for law enforcement vehicles with our tax dollars and I bet ford continues to give us a great deal.
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> Ford wants cops to start driving a police
> interceptor Taurus. We test drove one this week
> and they suck! Front wheel drive and unibody
> construction have no place in law enforcement.
> 80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or
> the mercury version of it. Why would they mess
> with success like that?????
The police interceptor package is all wheel drive. The turbocharged v6 blows the doors off any crown vic. The tore-ass handles like its on rails and they make a crossover suv version of it. The car has a removable chip to tone the power down and govern speed to 90mph max when the worn cars are re-assigned or sold off as surplus.
Only down side is the unibody will make it much more likely to be totaled in a crash and cause the taxpayers to buy replacements. Crash survival rates are expected to be higher.
Ford is doing it right, we all pay for law enforcement vehicles with our tax dollars and I bet ford continues to give us a great deal.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: July 07, 2011 06:10PM
Ford wasn't selling enough LTDs even with all the fleet contracts. As for you cops, you can all ride around in Smart cars for all I care.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: July 09, 2011 10:15PM
Piggy Wrote:
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> Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> road better.
And you also get massive torque steer with a large engine mated to front wheel drive. :(
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> Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> road better.
And you also get massive torque steer with a large engine mated to front wheel drive. :(
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Torque Steer
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Date: July 09, 2011 10:18PM
eesh Wrote:
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> Piggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> > road better.
>
>
> And you also get massive torque steer with a large
> engine mated to front wheel drive. :(
Exactly what I was thinking
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> Piggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> > road better.
>
>
> And you also get massive torque steer with a large
> engine mated to front wheel drive. :(
Exactly what I was thinking
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
PoLice
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Date: July 09, 2011 10:22PM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> Ford wasn't selling enough LTDs even with all the
> fleet contracts. As for you cops, you can all ride
> around in Smart cars for all I care.
I bet you're one of those jaded "fuck the pigs" douchebags. Show some respect you fucking faggot.
I can't wait til you get stabbed, bleeding on the sidewalk, and the officer can't get to you in time because he's rolling in a Smart Car.
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> Ford wasn't selling enough LTDs even with all the
> fleet contracts. As for you cops, you can all ride
> around in Smart cars for all I care.
I bet you're one of those jaded "fuck the pigs" douchebags. Show some respect you fucking faggot.
I can't wait til you get stabbed, bleeding on the sidewalk, and the officer can't get to you in time because he's rolling in a Smart Car.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
V6 vs V8... FWD vs RWD
()
Date: July 09, 2011 10:37PM
Piggy Wrote:
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> The new Ford Taurus appears to be an improvement
> with V6 motor that has more hp than the current
> 4.8L V8. This will of course mean better gas
> mileage.
Maybe in this case, however, that's not always the case.
2008 Nissan 350z (3.5L V6): 18 cty/25 hwy
2011 Ford Mustang GT (5.0L V8): 17 cty/26 hwy
> Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> road better.
It really depends on the road conditions. Of course FWD will handle better on slick roads...
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> The new Ford Taurus appears to be an improvement
> with V6 motor that has more hp than the current
> 4.8L V8. This will of course mean better gas
> mileage.
Maybe in this case, however, that's not always the case.
2008 Nissan 350z (3.5L V6): 18 cty/25 hwy
2011 Ford Mustang GT (5.0L V8): 17 cty/26 hwy
> Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> road better.
It really depends on the road conditions. Of course FWD will handle better on slick roads...
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: July 10, 2011 01:50AM
PoLice Wrote:
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ford wasn't selling enough LTDs even with all
> the
> > fleet contracts. As for you cops, you can all
> ride
> > around in Smart cars for all I care.
>
> I bet you're one of those jaded "fuck the pigs"
> douchebags. Show some respect you fucking
> faggot.
>
> I can't wait til you get stabbed, bleeding on the
> sidewalk, and the officer can't get to you in time
> because he's rolling in a Smart Car.
Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ford wasn't selling enough LTDs even with all
> the
> > fleet contracts. As for you cops, you can all
> ride
> > around in Smart cars for all I care.
>
> I bet you're one of those jaded "fuck the pigs"
> douchebags. Show some respect you fucking
> faggot.
>
> I can't wait til you get stabbed, bleeding on the
> sidewalk, and the officer can't get to you in time
> because he's rolling in a Smart Car.
Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
another user
()
Date: July 10, 2011 02:39AM
They stopped making the LTD Crown Victoria in 1991, why the thread now?
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
retired deputy
()
Date: July 10, 2011 05:24AM
V6 vs V8... FWD vs RWD Wrote:
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> Piggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The new Ford Taurus appears to be an
> improvement
> > with V6 motor that has more hp than the current
> > 4.8L V8. This will of course mean better gas
> > mileage.
>
> Maybe in this case, however, that's not always the
> case.
>
> 2008 Nissan 350z (3.5L V6): 18 cty/25 hwy
>
> 2011 Ford Mustang GT (5.0L V8): 17 cty/26 hwy
>
> > Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> > road better.
>
> It really depends on the road conditions. Of
> course FWD will handle better on slick roads...
I understand that the police interceptor will be all wheel drive.
Biggest complaint I have heard is that one PIT manuver can total the taurus and cost the taxpayers 45 grand for a new one. The body on frame construction of the crown vic would only require a fender replacement after a PIT manuver.
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> Piggy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The new Ford Taurus appears to be an
> improvement
> > with V6 motor that has more hp than the current
> > 4.8L V8. This will of course mean better gas
> > mileage.
>
> Maybe in this case, however, that's not always the
> case.
>
> 2008 Nissan 350z (3.5L V6): 18 cty/25 hwy
>
> 2011 Ford Mustang GT (5.0L V8): 17 cty/26 hwy
>
> > Front wheel drive police cars tend to hold the
> > road better.
>
> It really depends on the road conditions. Of
> course FWD will handle better on slick roads...
I understand that the police interceptor will be all wheel drive.
Biggest complaint I have heard is that one PIT manuver can total the taurus and cost the taxpayers 45 grand for a new one. The body on frame construction of the crown vic would only require a fender replacement after a PIT manuver.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
PoLice
()
Date: July 10, 2011 10:17AM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
Hey, I'm not the douchebag who's jumping on the "cops suck" bandwagon...
You hate em now, but when you really need them, you'll come crawling back like the little bitch that you are.
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> Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
Hey, I'm not the douchebag who's jumping on the "cops suck" bandwagon...
You hate em now, but when you really need them, you'll come crawling back like the little bitch that you are.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: July 10, 2011 11:59AM
PoLice Wrote:
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
>
>
> Hey, I'm not the douchebag who's jumping on the
> "cops suck" bandwagon...
>
> You hate em now, but when you really need them,
> you'll come crawling back like the little bitch
> that you are.
The fact is that calling the cops is often a great way to make a bad situation much worse. Everybody wants security and comfort and they go "crawling back like little bitches", but statistically you far more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist.
BTW, I like the way you refer to citizens as crawling little bitches. Pretty much shows your attitude toward those you "serve" in a nutshell, you undisciplined costumed tax leach. Always butthurt because people don't appreciate you.
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> tomahawk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't get all butthurt, dependent boy.
>
>
> Hey, I'm not the douchebag who's jumping on the
> "cops suck" bandwagon...
>
> You hate em now, but when you really need them,
> you'll come crawling back like the little bitch
> that you are.
The fact is that calling the cops is often a great way to make a bad situation much worse. Everybody wants security and comfort and they go "crawling back like little bitches", but statistically you far more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist.
BTW, I like the way you refer to citizens as crawling little bitches. Pretty much shows your attitude toward those you "serve" in a nutshell, you undisciplined costumed tax leach. Always butthurt because people don't appreciate you.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
PoLice
()
Date: July 10, 2011 12:42PM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> The fact is that calling the cops is often a great
> way to make a bad situation much worse. Everybody
> wants security and comfort and they go "crawling
> back like little bitches", but statistically you
> far more likely to be killed by a police officer
> than by a terrorist.
You're probably just butthurt over a speeding ticket.
> BTW, I like the way you refer to citizens as
> crawling little bitches. Pretty much shows your
> attitude toward those you "serve" in a nutshell,
> you undisciplined costumed tax leach. Always
> butthurt because people don't appreciate you.
So now you're assuming that I am a police officer? Nope. Just an appreciative citizen. I guess that's a rarity now days...
BTW, I never referred to citizens in general as "crawling little bitches." That special title is reserved for YOU and any other cop-bashing scum out there.
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> The fact is that calling the cops is often a great
> way to make a bad situation much worse. Everybody
> wants security and comfort and they go "crawling
> back like little bitches", but statistically you
> far more likely to be killed by a police officer
> than by a terrorist.
You're probably just butthurt over a speeding ticket.
> BTW, I like the way you refer to citizens as
> crawling little bitches. Pretty much shows your
> attitude toward those you "serve" in a nutshell,
> you undisciplined costumed tax leach. Always
> butthurt because people don't appreciate you.
So now you're assuming that I am a police officer? Nope. Just an appreciative citizen. I guess that's a rarity now days...
BTW, I never referred to citizens in general as "crawling little bitches." That special title is reserved for YOU and any other cop-bashing scum out there.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: July 10, 2011 06:10PM
PoLice Wrote:
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> So now you're assuming that I am a police officer?
> Nope. Just an appreciative citizen. I guess
> that's a rarity now days...
Badge-lickers? Nope, you're a dime-a-dozen. Back to watching your CSI reruns, dependent boy.
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> So now you're assuming that I am a police officer?
> Nope. Just an appreciative citizen. I guess
> that's a rarity now days...
Badge-lickers? Nope, you're a dime-a-dozen. Back to watching your CSI reruns, dependent boy.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
PoLice
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:12AM
tomahawk Wrote:
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> Badge-lickers? Nope, you're a dime-a-dozen. Back
> to watching your CSI reruns, dependent boy.
Lol ...and Cop-haters aren't a dime-a-dozen? How original...
Back to watching YouTube videos of police abuse and assuming that that's a realistic representation of all cops. Bandwagon retard.
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> Badge-lickers? Nope, you're a dime-a-dozen. Back
> to watching your CSI reruns, dependent boy.
Lol ...and Cop-haters aren't a dime-a-dozen? How original...
Back to watching YouTube videos of police abuse and assuming that that's a realistic representation of all cops. Bandwagon retard.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:58AM
Peace, bra.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Hatemotor
()
Date: July 11, 2011 01:02AM
Get 'Em tomahawk!!! Fuck that guy!!!
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Arnold
()
Date: July 11, 2011 10:53AM
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
PoLice
()
Date: July 11, 2011 11:35AM
Hatemotor Wrote:
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> Get 'Em tomahawk!!! Fuck that guy!!!
HEY...
Attachments:
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> Get 'Em tomahawk!!! Fuck that guy!!!
HEY...
Attachments:
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
JBass
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:04PM
Fuck tha Police, comin straight out tha underground!
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Pinhead the Cenobite
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:08PM
Is there still a Dodge Charger police model?
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Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
weeeeeeeee
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:14PM
Pinhead the Cenobite Wrote:
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> Is there still a Dodge Charger police model?
I would assume so. Saw one at a DUI checkpoint couple weeks ago.
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> Is there still a Dodge Charger police model?
I would assume so. Saw one at a DUI checkpoint couple weeks ago.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
NiggaPlz
()
Date: July 11, 2011 12:20PM
county cop Wrote:
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> Ford wants cops to start driving a police
> interceptor Taurus. We test drove one this week
> and they suck! Front wheel drive and unibody
> construction have no place in law enforcement.
> 80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or
> the mercury version of it. Why would they mess
> with success like that?????
My guess is that they were losing money. Lots of makes/models to choose from now, few of which are Ford.
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> Ford wants cops to start driving a police
> interceptor Taurus. We test drove one this week
> and they suck! Front wheel drive and unibody
> construction have no place in law enforcement.
> 80% of cabs and cop cars in the US were LTDs or
> the mercury version of it. Why would they mess
> with success like that?????
My guess is that they were losing money. Lots of makes/models to choose from now, few of which are Ford.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: July 11, 2011 03:02PM
If it was me I'd be asking for the Dodge Challenger, best looking American car to come out in years and with the Hemi engine there is plenty of power.
Re: why in hell did ford quit making LTD crown vics?
Posted by:
Charger > Challenger
()
Date: July 11, 2011 03:11PM
BB*X Wrote:
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> If it was me I'd be asking for the Dodge
> Challenger, best looking American car to come out
> in years and with the Hemi engine there is plenty
> of power.
The handling is rather sluggish and the lack of rear seat space/rear doors makes it impractical for police use.
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> If it was me I'd be asking for the Dodge
> Challenger, best looking American car to come out
> in years and with the Hemi engine there is plenty
> of power.
The handling is rather sluggish and the lack of rear seat space/rear doors makes it impractical for police use.