Currently work as a contractor for a DOD agency. I got my interim secret and an ADP II.

I might get an ADP 1 .

From what I've heard this is kind of a TS but not really?

I've researched it a bit and can't find a direct answer, does anyone know about this???

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ADP+clearance

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> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ADP+clearance


Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been through the process or more importantly has gotten one and transferred to another company.

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> Currently work as a contractor for a DOD agency. I
> got my interim secret and an ADP II.
>
> I might get an ADP 1 .
>
> From what I've heard this is kind of a TS but not
> really?
>
> I've researched it a bit and can't find a direct
> answer, does anyone know about this???

No they are not the same. ADP-1 and ADP-2 are also referred to IT-1 and IT-2. If no access to classified information is required, these positions are designated as Public Trust positions. Public Trust positions fall under a broader program of federal employment suitability and fitness governed by the provisions of 5CFR731.202. IT-1 is a High-Risk PT position and IT-2 is a Moderate-Risk PT position.

I have attached two documents that explain further. Feel free to save them to your desktop. The direct link is here http://lastpostpublishing.com/Documents/Clearance%20Chart.pdf
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Thank you I've seen the chart. What I don't understand is why am I going through the secret process right now if it's only a position of public trust? I have an ADPII currently and a DOD secret-interim.

I've had 2 PPTs before for two different non DOD agencies.

I found this page which states ADP 1 is classified.

AUTOMATED DATA PROCESSING (ADP) SECURITY Automated data processing (ADP) is a Navywide responsibility. It encompasses security aspects that contribute to the protection of the total ADP activity, office information system, or network. ADP security involves the following elements: • Physical • Administrative/operating procedures • Hardware • Software • Data Your command will have an automated data processing security officer (ADPSO) who reports to the CO on matters that concern the protection of electronically generated data. The ADPSO is responsible for the physical security of each computer workstation. The protection of each workstation involves physical security, physical access control, data file protection, and natural disaster protection. Seek out your ADPSO and make sure your workstation complies with Navy and command regulations for the protection of classified material.
Levels of ADP Security Data processed electronically have three levels of security: Level I, Level II, and Level III. If your command processes Level I and/or Level II data, it must provide a specific degree of protection. The following chart defines the three levels of data: LEVEL MEANING Level I Classified data Level II Classified; requires special protection, such as For Official Use Only and data covered by the Privacy Act of 1974 Level III All other unclassified data

http://www.tpub.com/content/advancement/14325/css/14325_602.htm

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> Thank you I've seen the chart. What I don't
> understand is why am I going through the secret
> process right now if it's only a position of
> public trust? I have an ADPII currently and a DOD
> secret-interim.
>
> I've had 2 PPTs before for two different non DOD
> agencies.
>
> I found this page which states ADP 1 is
> classified.
>
> AUTOMATED DATA PROCESSING (ADP) SECURITY Automated
> data processing (ADP) is a Navywide
> responsibility. It encompasses security aspects
> that contribute to the protection of the total ADP
> activity, office information system, or network.
> ADP security involves the following elements: •
> Physical • Administrative/operating procedures
> • Hardware • Software • Data Your command
> will have an automated data processing security
> officer (ADPSO) who reports to the CO on matters
> that concern the protection of electronically
> generated data. The ADPSO is responsible for the
> physical security of each computer workstation.
> The protection of each workstation involves
> physical security, physical access control, data
> file protection, and natural disaster protection.
> Seek out your ADPSO and make sure your workstation
> complies with Navy and command regulations for the
> protection of classified material.
> Levels of ADP Security Data processed
> electronically have three levels of security:
> Level I, Level II, and Level III. If your command
> processes Level I and/or Level II data, it must
> provide a specific degree of protection. The
> following chart defines the three levels of data:
> LEVEL MEANING Level I Classified data Level II
> Classified; requires special protection, such as
> For Official Use Only and data covered by the
> Privacy Act of 1974 Level III All other
> unclassified data
>
> http://www.tpub.com/content/advancement/14325/css/
> 14325_602.htm

Then that means that you will (or there is potential) for you having to work with classified information on a TS level. Fortunately the process is quicker now than it was in the past. This would make sense if you're going to be working in information processing, IT, etc.

Just ask your F.S.O. they are the requester of the investigation and should be familiar with the specifics of the level of clearance required.

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been through
> the process or more importantly has gotten one and
> transferred to another company.

Hey dummy, how about asking your security officer? Ever think of that?

It's not final but they might do it. The Security Officer has a bug up her ass about processing IT1s due to the $$$ associated so it is best to leave her alone about it plus she disliked us contractors. Especially since it's not confirmed yet. Management of my company says it is basically a TS but the agencies version of a TS.

No need to get defensive over this shit.

Kilton Wrote:
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> Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> >
> > Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> > regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been through
> > the process or more importantly has gotten one
> and
> > transferred to another company.
>
> Hey dummy, how about asking your security officer?
> Ever think of that?

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> It's not final but they might do it. The Security
> Officer has a bug up her ass about processing IT1s
> due to the $$$ associated so it is best to leave
> her alone about it plus she disliked us
> contractors. Especially since it's not confirmed
> yet. Management of my company says it is basically
> a TS but the agencies version of a TS.
>
> No need to get defensive over this shit.
>
> Kilton Wrote:
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> > Gubment Whore Wrote:
> >
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> > >
> > > Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> > > regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been
> through
> > > the process or more importantly has gotten
> one
> > and
> > > transferred to another company.
> >
> > Hey dummy, how about asking your security
> officer?
> > Ever think of that?

We've had problems with our security department in the past as well. We replaced some of them two years ago because they were sitting on paperwork.

Kilton Wrote:
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> Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> >
> > Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> > regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been through
> > the process or more importantly has gotten one
> and
> > transferred to another company.
>
> Hey dummy, how about asking your security officer?
> Ever think of that?



+1

I don't think Fairfax Underground is the best place to be asking these questions, and if the person is already starting off doing something as stupid and indiscreet as posting online about their specific security clearance, then their eligibility should really be questioned.

that's a DAMN good point, eesh..........

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> > Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> > >
> > > Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> > > regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been
> through
> > > the process or more importantly has gotten
> one
> > and
> > > transferred to another company.
> >
> > Hey dummy, how about asking your security
> officer?
> > Ever think of that?
>
>
>
> +1
>
> I don't think Fairfax Underground is the best
> place to be asking these questions, and if the
> person is already starting off doing something as
> stupid and indiscreet as posting online about
> their specific security clearance, then their
> eligibility should really be questioned.

Your criticism is misplaced. He was asking a general question about the clearance hierarchy, which is posted online in places that are not so easy to find. Now if he had been sharing confidential or sensitive information that would be different, but he was not.

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> Your criticism is misplaced. He was asking a
> general question about the clearance hierarchy,
> which is posted online in places that are not so
> easy to find.


LOL that's why he said "I got my interim secret and an ADP II."

Whatever kid.

Go to a security clearance expo where everyone in the building has a clearance and their resumes with names contact info etc. Go to federalsoup.com and check out the threads or any other damn site. (most are TS only). Walk around downtown and see everyone's Id cards flapping around in the breeze. The friggin secret service has luggage tags with their logo on it. (they have gone back and forth several time).


eesh Wrote:
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> > Your criticism is misplaced. He was asking a
> > general question about the clearance hierarchy,
> > which is posted online in places that are not
> so
> > easy to find.
>
>
> LOL that's why he said "I got my interim secret
> and an ADP II."

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> Go to a security clearance expo where everyone in
> the building has a clearance and their resumes
> with names contact info etc. Go to federalsoup.com
> and check out the threads or any other damn site.
> (most are TS only). Walk around downtown and see
> everyone's Id cards flapping around in the breeze.
> The friggin secret service has luggage tags with
> their logo on it. (they have gone back and forth
> several time).



Right, and 99% of them were smart enough to know who and where to look for the information they needed and not go on a general audience message board plastering their clearance information.

OP is too lazy to google the shit or is too stupid to google the shit.

Lloydster Wrote:
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> OP is too lazy to google the shit or is too stupid
> to google the shit.

No, it appears not too lazy to google for it, but too lazy to skim the results of google for the exact answer(s) to his question.

Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ADP+clearance
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>
> Hey SmartAss I'm not looking for 100 pages of
> regs. Wondering if anyone HERE has been through
> the process or more importantly has gotten one and
> transferred to another company.


Fuck you , government non worker. Someone was nice enough to post something to intend you help you and you call him an ass hole. I hate government non workers that don't do shit but take away our civil liberties. While there are some working for good cause (protection of congressman for example), the vast majority of government non workers are worthless. AND we have to pay for it. try getting a real job douchebag

eesh Wrote:
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> Gubment Whore Wrote:
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> > Go to a security clearance expo where everyone
> in
> > the building has a clearance and their resumes
> > with names contact info etc. Go to
> federalsoup.com
> > and check out the threads or any other damn
> site.
> > (most are TS only). Walk around downtown and
> see
> > everyone's Id cards flapping around in the
> breeze.
> > The friggin secret service has luggage tags
> with
> > their logo on it. (they have gone back and
> forth
> > several time).
>
>
>
> Right, and 99% of them were smart enough to know
> who and where to look for the information they
> needed and not go on a general audience message
> board plastering their clearance information.

LOL, that's true!

After having some sort of clearance or another for over ten years, it is STILL confusing regarding whether or not an agency will honor other agencies' security investigations or clearances. It is also unclear about when reinvestigations will occur.

The OP is asking here because of the TMI on the internet. I go to my Security Officer with questions and usually get a version that's refuted several times over at the job site. OP, you will find no better answer here mainly because the situation is different for every government organization.

My advice is to go along for the ride. It is not like you can simply ask for more clearance on your own. Let your secret clearance go all the way through from interim and then see what's going on.

How long did it take for the interim to come back? Do you have any idea how long the final adjudication will take?

the ADP 1 requires an SSBI and the same as TS but this does not grant you access to the data, it is only for using "Automated Data Processing" systems that process High risk data (which could be classified). Can a new or current company change it to a regular clearance? I've investigated this and what the new or current company would need to do is to submit a RRU to have the clearance re-adjudicated at the requested clearance level and as long as the the proper personnel security investigation has been completed, they will be able to grant the access, if not then they will respond back with what would be needed for access to be granted. Here is a little more info to help out:

From https://www.commissaries.com/inside_deca/publications/directives/DeCAD50-25.pdf chapter 2

(2) For access to TOP SECRET information:
(a) DeCA managers may authorize access to classified information at the TOP
SECRET level for individuals with the appropriate PSI (SSBI) and who occupy a position designated
with a minimum position sensitivity level of CS. The individual may be required to submit an updated
PSQ as required by the WHS CAF.
(b) Request for TOP SECRET access will be initiated on DeCA Form 30-55,
Determination of Need for Clearance/Position Sensitivity Change, which is forwarded to the appropriate
region Security Program Manager (DeCA Security Officer for HQ and Business Area personnel).
(c) The Security Programs Manager verifies the individual’s eligibility for a TOP
SECRET security clearance and initiates a local files check. The results of the local files check are
documented on DeCA Form 30-54, Request for Personnel Security Action. Upon completion of the local
files check, the Security Programs Manager completes a “Request for Personnel Security Determination
and/or Security Clearance” memorandum that is forwarded to the WHS CAF, along with any supporting
documentation such as an updated PSQ, etc. If the individual is not eligible for a TOP SECRET security
clearance based on the position sensitivity or type of PSI, the individual will be processed for a SECRET
security clearance (if eligible) and the appropriate Security Manager notified as to what actions are
necessary to obtain the TOP SECRET clearance.
(d) A copy of the Request for Personnel Security Determination and DeCA Form 30-
55 will be forwarded to DOH for establishment of a TOP SECRET billet, filing in the individual’s
Personnel Security Folder, and updating the DeCA Personnel Security Roster.

OP should mention during the interview process that he is too stupid to live. That will speed things up quite a bit.