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The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
bobbymcfarley
()
Date: March 25, 2011 12:49PM
I was wondering what states are now considered "Mid-Atlantic". Its very confusing.
When I was in school in the 80s and 90s, Virginia and even Maryland were not considered Mid-Atlantic" but part of the 'South Atlantic" states.
We were taught the Mid-Atlantic were NY, PA, and NJ.(ny and pa are very large states and take up most of the NE Corridor). These states between New England and the South. I believe DE was included in that.
But because West VA is all messed up Geographically, they never figured out what to do with her.
Then I have seen the Mid-Atlantic refer to MD, DE, West VA, MD, and VA. Va being the southern extreme. I guess to me that would make more sense.
Some people even include North Carolina as Mid-Atlantic. But I suppose states overlap each other, right?
IMO, Virginia is Mid-Atlantic but transitions into the Southeast.
If Virginia is truly the Mid-Atlantic, I think Kentucky should be "Midwest". Because its parellel but they still include it in the Southern states.
When I was in school in the 80s and 90s, Virginia and even Maryland were not considered Mid-Atlantic" but part of the 'South Atlantic" states.
We were taught the Mid-Atlantic were NY, PA, and NJ.(ny and pa are very large states and take up most of the NE Corridor). These states between New England and the South. I believe DE was included in that.
But because West VA is all messed up Geographically, they never figured out what to do with her.
Then I have seen the Mid-Atlantic refer to MD, DE, West VA, MD, and VA. Va being the southern extreme. I guess to me that would make more sense.
Some people even include North Carolina as Mid-Atlantic. But I suppose states overlap each other, right?
IMO, Virginia is Mid-Atlantic but transitions into the Southeast.
If Virginia is truly the Mid-Atlantic, I think Kentucky should be "Midwest". Because its parellel but they still include it in the Southern states.
Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
reallyitsnothin
()
Date: March 25, 2011 12:56PM
bobbymcfarley Wrote:
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> I was wondering what states are now considered
> "Mid-Atlantic". Its very confusing.
>
> When I was in school in the 80s and 90s, Virginia
> and even Maryland were not considered
> Mid-Atlantic" but part of the 'South Atlantic"
> states.
>
> We were taught the Mid-Atlantic were NY, PA, and
> NJ.(ny and pa are very large states and take up
> most of the NE Corridor). These states between New
> England and the South. I believe DE was included
> in that.
>
> But because West VA is all messed up
> Geographically, they never figured out what to do
> with her.
>
> Then I have seen the Mid-Atlantic refer to MD, DE,
> West VA, MD, and VA. Va being the southern
> extreme. I guess to me that would make more
> sense.
>
> Some people even include North Carolina as
> Mid-Atlantic. But I suppose states overlap each
> other, right?
>
> IMO, Virginia is Mid-Atlantic but transitions into
> the Southeast.
>
> If Virginia is truly the Mid-Atlantic, I think
> Kentucky should be "Midwest". Because its parellel
> but they still include it in the Southern states.
You think about it too much. Virginia is Geographically Mid-Atlantic, but historically part of the "Old South". And no, New York is not Mid-Atlantic. Its way up in the North. The Mid-Atlantic means what it is: pretty much in the middle. Now, some may argue that Virginia is the Southeast. Depending on how you look at the map. I think the Southeast begins at NC. And yes, KY is Midwest.
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> I was wondering what states are now considered
> "Mid-Atlantic". Its very confusing.
>
> When I was in school in the 80s and 90s, Virginia
> and even Maryland were not considered
> Mid-Atlantic" but part of the 'South Atlantic"
> states.
>
> We were taught the Mid-Atlantic were NY, PA, and
> NJ.(ny and pa are very large states and take up
> most of the NE Corridor). These states between New
> England and the South. I believe DE was included
> in that.
>
> But because West VA is all messed up
> Geographically, they never figured out what to do
> with her.
>
> Then I have seen the Mid-Atlantic refer to MD, DE,
> West VA, MD, and VA. Va being the southern
> extreme. I guess to me that would make more
> sense.
>
> Some people even include North Carolina as
> Mid-Atlantic. But I suppose states overlap each
> other, right?
>
> IMO, Virginia is Mid-Atlantic but transitions into
> the Southeast.
>
> If Virginia is truly the Mid-Atlantic, I think
> Kentucky should be "Midwest". Because its parellel
> but they still include it in the Southern states.
You think about it too much. Virginia is Geographically Mid-Atlantic, but historically part of the "Old South". And no, New York is not Mid-Atlantic. Its way up in the North. The Mid-Atlantic means what it is: pretty much in the middle. Now, some may argue that Virginia is the Southeast. Depending on how you look at the map. I think the Southeast begins at NC. And yes, KY is Midwest.
Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
JG Wentworth, historian par excellance
()
Date: March 25, 2011 12:59PM
It's like this part of Virginia is so stressed on the"Northern" part. What happened when the south go whipped, the good Virginians who realized what a lie their cause was through shame adopted the Northern as a sort of facade or false persona to obscure their involvement, only fooling themselves in the process.
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WingNut
()
Date: March 25, 2011 01:06PM
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Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
tomahawk
()
Date: March 25, 2011 08:36PM
In the diary of Joseph Plum Martin, a veteran of the Revolutionary War, he was from Conn. and he referred to Pensylvanians as "Southerners". It's all relative in the South.
Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
realtrip1
()
Date: March 25, 2011 08:44PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> VA is considered a southern state by many older
> books, but I think it has crossed into being
> Mid-Atlantic with NJ.MD,DE based on the urban
> sprawl and relation to these other states. PA is
> probably Northeastern along with NY, it has
> Atlantic access with the Delawere River but not a
> coast. WV can't be Mid-Atlantic either for that
> reason IMO.
>
> Eastern Seaboard? Is that FL to ME?
>
> Midwest? I consider KY Mid-South, but OH Midwest.
> How about Mid Eastern America? Can we use that
> term and where?
>
> (I set up the joke- you take it)
If Kentucky is Mid South how can VA be "Mid-Atlantic". KY is same lat as Virginia. Virginia is also much more Southern KY. was not even in the Confederacy.
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> VA is considered a southern state by many older
> books, but I think it has crossed into being
> Mid-Atlantic with NJ.MD,DE based on the urban
> sprawl and relation to these other states. PA is
> probably Northeastern along with NY, it has
> Atlantic access with the Delawere River but not a
> coast. WV can't be Mid-Atlantic either for that
> reason IMO.
>
> Eastern Seaboard? Is that FL to ME?
>
> Midwest? I consider KY Mid-South, but OH Midwest.
> How about Mid Eastern America? Can we use that
> term and where?
>
> (I set up the joke- you take it)
If Kentucky is Mid South how can VA be "Mid-Atlantic". KY is same lat as Virginia. Virginia is also much more Southern KY. was not even in the Confederacy.
Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
rvashows134
()
Date: March 25, 2011 08:46PM
JG Wentworth, historian par excellance Wrote:
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> It's like this part of Virginia is so stressed on
> the"Northern" part. What happened when the south
> go whipped, the good Virginians who realized what
> a lie their cause was through shame adopted the
> Northern as a sort of facade or false persona to
> obscure their involvement, only fooling themselves
> in the process.
Thats not it at all. Virginia just has different regions like every other state. There is "North Georgia" as well. Its just a way to spec. what part of Virginia it is.
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> It's like this part of Virginia is so stressed on
> the"Northern" part. What happened when the south
> go whipped, the good Virginians who realized what
> a lie their cause was through shame adopted the
> Northern as a sort of facade or false persona to
> obscure their involvement, only fooling themselves
> in the process.
Thats not it at all. Virginia just has different regions like every other state. There is "North Georgia" as well. Its just a way to spec. what part of Virginia it is.
Re: The "Mid-Atlantic"
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: March 25, 2011 09:35PM
You must of gone to school in DC Bobby...sorry about that