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Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: DCTalk ()
Date: March 01, 2011 08:17AM

I'm trying to plan for childcare.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: b obama ()
Date: March 01, 2011 10:21AM

I'd give my left nut for a government shutdown.

The last time, it blew up in the stupid motherfuckers' GOP faces, and Clinton cruised to re-election.

Let history repeat itself!

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Date: March 01, 2011 10:24AM

I think a real discussion about budget cutting would be great. First, let's start looking at all the bullshit "make work" programs in states like Mississippi and Alabama. Let's also cut funding for their roads and infrastructure, since most blue states put more into the Federal Treasury than they get back in return while red states like Wyoming and Alaska live on the government teet.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: March 01, 2011 12:35PM

YES. Make arrangements and pre-pay for one week.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: March 01, 2011 12:38PM

DCTalk Wrote:
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> I'm trying to plan for childcare.

I don't get it. You'll be out of work so you CANNOT take care of your child? I would think you'll have plenty of time for that since you will be at home.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2011 12:38PM by More Complete.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: teeter ()
Date: March 01, 2011 01:08PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I think a real discussion about budget cutting
> would be great. First, let's start looking at all
> the bullshit "make work" programs in states like
> Mississippi and Alabama. Let's also cut funding
> for their roads and infrastructure, since most
> blue states put more into the Federal Treasury
> than they get back in return while red states like
> Wyoming and Alaska live on the government teet.

Buy a clue. NM gets the most. It has two Democratic Senators and gave its electoral votes to Obama. In fact, VA and MD suck harder off the teet than WY. Two Democratic Senators each and both gave their electoral votes to Obama. Time to look closer to home.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Date: March 01, 2011 01:14PM

teeter Wrote:
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>
> Buy a clue. NM gets the most. It has two
> Democratic Senators and gave its electoral votes
> to Obama. In fact, VA and MD suck harder off the
> teet than WY. Two Democratic Senators each and
> both gave their electoral votes to Obama. Time to
> look closer to home.

Read what I wrote. I'm talking about states who receive more Federal benefits than they pay for. VA and MD may get more Federal dollars, but they also pay more to the Feds because of higher incomes...


States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: teeter ()
Date: March 01, 2011 01:17PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Read what I wrote. I'm talking about states who
> receive more Federal benefits than they pay for.
> VA and MD may get more Federal dollars, but they
> also pay more to the Feds because of higher
> incomes...

I know what you wrote and I know what you mean. Do you?

Go outside the top 10. Where do MD and VA rank. Bet you they get back more than they put in. Where does WY rank in comparison to those two. Re-read what you wrote and try to understand it this time.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Date: March 01, 2011 01:25PM

teeter Wrote:
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> I know what you wrote and I know what you mean.
> Do you?
>
> Go outside the top 10. Where do MD and VA rank.
> Bet you they get back more than they put in.
> Where does WY rank in comparison to those two.
> Re-read what you wrote and try to understand it
> this time.

Let's just agree that you are a clueless prick. Look at the number of Red States in the first list and the number of Blue States in the second list. It proves my fucking point. Now fuck off cunt.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: teeter ()
Date: March 01, 2011 01:36PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Let's just agree that you are a clueless prick.
> Look at the number of Red States in the first list
> and the number of Blue States in the second list.
> It proves my fucking point. Now fuck off cunt.

So, you decided to do a little research and found out that, once again, you just got your ass handed to you. You do excel at spouting off nonsensical bullshit and expecting nobody to call you on it. Hey dumbass, you can't change your point half way through a dialoge and then say "it proves my point." Particularly after you were just made to play the fool. Go fart on your kids face and tell him he lives downwind from the landfill, tard. Care to tel the rest of the world where MD and VA rank in comparison to WY, or is your silence on that an affirmation of your resounding defeat?

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:19PM

Virginia and Maryland are #2 and #4 in defense contracts. It's probably the same for counterterrorism spending.

Things like SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and the like are probably not going to be affected in the near term (1-5 years). SS and Medicare have to do with longterm budgeting as they're mostly pay-as-you-go. Medicaid and the other welfare programs are affected by the economy. They would fall if the economy improves and wages increase. If we get more of the same top-heavy economy favoring the well to do and those with contacts to government, then the welfare programs will turn into longterm issues.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:22PM

I think total government purchases from the private sector is something around 500 billion dollars with almost half from the military-cointel agencies.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: FBO ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:39PM

Supposed to be a vote today on extending the CR for DoD - thats my best guess. We will get a two week CR extension and then who the fuck knows.

Oh, and teeter sounds like a fucking idiot; do more research and learn the truth.

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I say "fuck" a lot...

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:47PM

In about 6 weeks, Congress would have to start working on both the budget and the debt limit.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: teeter ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:49PM

FBO Wrote:
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> Oh, and teeter sounds like a fucking idiot; do
> more research and learn the truth.

What's the truth? Tell about all that smart research you've got? Point to a single inaccuracy in my analysis of WTL's BS. All I am asking for is ONE inaccuracy.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: teeter ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:52PM

FBO Wrote:
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> Supposed to be a vote today on extending the CR
> for DoD - thats my best guess. We will get a two
> week CR extension and then who the fuck knows.
>
> Oh, and teeter sounds like a fucking idiot; do
> more research and learn the truth.

Speaking of BS, CR extending for DoD? Take a look at the bill, dumbass. You lose because you can't even understand what the hell is going on. The CR is for the whole gov't. It cuts out programs the POTUS has recommended for elimination. It also eliminates earmarks.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: vote ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:26PM

They got the extension until March 18th. Vote was something like 331-90.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: senate ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:33PM

vote Wrote:
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> They got the extension until March 18th. Vote was
> something like 331-90.

we'll see what the senate does. they look likely to follow, but they still have to debate and vote.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Stinkfist ()
Date: March 01, 2011 06:15PM

If they shutdown they should forfeit their paychecks.

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Re: Do you think the government will have a furlough?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: March 01, 2011 11:47PM

I thought this was a local topic since most people in NoVa are affected directly (gov employee, contractor, or supplier) or indirectly. As of tonight, the total debt subject to the the limit of $14.294T is just 99 billion dollars away.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/charts/charts_debt.htm

Congress will have to get cracking on both the budget and the debt ceiling in about 2-3 weeks if they're going to make it on time to avoid a shutdown.

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