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President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: Vienna Guy ()
Date: January 19, 2011 03:21PM

Please don't flame me. I am trying to get to the bottom of this story that just doesn't seem to want to go away. Please see link below.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

Does anyone have a straight forward answer one way or the other?

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: Vienna Guy ()
Date: January 19, 2011 03:22PM

BORN IN THE USA?

Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances

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Posted: January 18, 2011
8:05 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily



Neil Abercrombie

Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

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Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had identified an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said.

For seemingly the first time, Abercrombie frankly acknowledged that presidential politics motivated his search for Obama birth records, implying that failure to resolve the questions that remain unanswered about the president's birth and early life may damage his chance for re-election.


"If there is a political agenda (regarding Obama's birth certificate), then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president," he said.

So far, the only birth document available on Obama is a Hawaii Certification of Live Birth that first appeared on the Internet during the 2008 presidential campaign. It was posted by two purportedly independent websites that have displayed a strong partisan bias for Obama – Snopes.com released the COLB in June 2008, and FactCheck.org published photographs of the document in August 2008.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

Moreover, WND has documented that the address reported in the newspaper birth announcements was the home of the grandparents.

WND also has reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

Conceivably, the yet undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form birth certificate existed.

WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.



Read more: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833#ixzz1BVyG7fe2

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 19, 2011 03:23PM

This guy is Hawaii's governor? He looks like he teaches quantum physics at Berkeley.



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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: Wiley E. Coyote ()
Date: January 19, 2011 04:47PM

> "WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior
> elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008,
> has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated
> birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and
> that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or
> Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.

WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT.
CASE CLOSED. MEEP MEEP.

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: January 20, 2011 12:46AM

eesh Wrote:
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> This guy is Hawaii's governor? He looks like he
> teaches quantum physics at Berkeley.
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LOL.

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 20, 2011 09:42AM

eesh Wrote:
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> This guy is Hawaii's governor? He looks like he
> teaches quantum physics at Berkeley.


Shit, I thought we saw him on "To Catch a Predator" or something.


idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: Wingnutty ()
Date: October 03, 2011 05:13PM

Why haven't we seen the real document!

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: Bill N ()
Date: October 03, 2011 06:15PM

If we invented a time machine and sent a group of a half dozen trustworthy individuals to the place where Obama supposedly was born, and if they cam back with pictures, I think there are still people in this country who would claim that the whole thing was staged. Obama's supposed foreign birth will be to the zealots on the right what the 2000 Florida vote is to the loons on the left.

Yet strangely birthers aren't bothered about McCain's birthplace.

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Re: President Obama Birth Certificate Debate: Still Not Resolved?
Posted by: 4 more years ()
Date: October 03, 2011 06:30PM

Vienna Guy Wrote:
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> Please don't flame me. I am trying to get to the
> bottom of this story that just doesn't seem to
> want to go away.

The Imploding Party dare not bring it up again - The People already are sick of them, blame them for the debt ceiling fiasco, think they're too allied with the Tea Party, and would throw them out en masse if they tried to bring up something bogus like the Birth Certificate Fiasco again.

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