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Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: what are you hidding? ()
Date: January 09, 2011 06:28PM

Why not show these crazy people the original birth certificate and clam them down?

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Shadow ()
Date: January 09, 2011 06:39PM

It's been published. They still go on. These are the same people who claim the holocaust didn't happen, we didn't walk on the moon and 9/11 was a government hoax.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Plowman in the Valley ()
Date: January 09, 2011 06:48PM

Shadow Wrote:
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> It's been published. They still go on. These are
> the same people who claim the holocaust didn't
> happen, we didn't walk on the moon and 9/11 was a
> government hoax.

Actually, Van Jones, former member of the Obama Admin, was linked to the "truthers" movement, which posits, among other batshit crazy theories, that the Bush Admin and Israel orchestrated the 9/11 attacks as a subterfuge to begin a Mideast war. So, you see, crazy exists on both sides of the political spectrum.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Bill N ()
Date: January 09, 2011 07:05PM

Plowman in the Valley Wrote:
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>
> Actually, Van Jones, former member of the Obama
> Admin, was linked to the "truthers" movement,
> which posits, among other batshit crazy theories,
> that the Bush Admin and Israel orchestrated the
> 9/11 attacks as a subterfuge to begin a Mideast
> war. So, you see, crazy exists on both sides of
> the political spectrum.

Ain't that the truth.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Date: January 09, 2011 07:07PM

He's shown it. It's been reviewed by major news organizations. It's been verified by the Republican and then Democratic governors of Hawai'i.

The idea that Obama is not an American citizen is the result of a lot of latently racist bullshit being dreamed up by the Right to justify their dislike of the guy.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Mr. Know-it-all ()
Date: January 09, 2011 07:14PM

Actually, he hasn't shown the original birth certificate. What they've put out is a computer generated certificate of live birth. It's not the same thing at all. Now, I don't really care about this issue, and am not among those who are clamoring for Obama to release a copy of the original birth certificate, but let's at least be clear about what has been made public. I'd be more interested in seeing his college and law school records. Something tells me that he's not the brilliant guy that everyone keeps gushing that he is.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Hitler ()
Date: January 09, 2011 07:35PM

the real thing being by the fact that he has sealed all his records is that he lied and said he was a foreign student to get financial aid. thats a felony.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: teapartyfaggots ()
Date: January 09, 2011 10:50PM

The Republican governor of Hawaii at the time, James "Duke" R. Aiona Jr., certified that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Dirk Diggler ()
Date: January 09, 2011 10:53PM

and i certify i have a 14" dong but you cant see it or measure it to prove it

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Hatemotor ()
Date: January 10, 2011 12:03AM

teapartyfaggots Wrote:
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> The Republican governor of Hawaii at the time,
> James "Duke" R. Aiona Jr., certified that Obama
> was in fact born in Hawaii.


Linda Lingle was the Gov., Duke was Lt Gov, and both agreed Obama was born in Hawaii

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Les ()
Date: January 10, 2011 12:15AM

the lies are intended to be propagated so dumb people just repeat them as if they're true and stir up more discontent. reagan's advisor pretty much summed it up. if you keep repeating them, they'll be be treated as true or preoccupy the the target of the smear campaign. the best thing is to just move on. if you're too lazy or stupid to analyze the real policies of the two parties in detail and can't see the many similarities in their positions, you shouldn't be voting anyways.

it's already been debunked. one has to question the motives of the people who are too stupid to analyze the policies of the two parties and have to resort to tactics like this.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: January 10, 2011 10:46AM

All I can say is I can't find my original birth certificate. Don't know if it even exists anymore. Got something from the state to get my license and passport though. Looks a lot like what was released. It's good enough for me.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: RULES ARE RULES ()
Date: January 10, 2011 11:58AM

Aside from what you think is "good enough" Johnny Walker,
the point here is :

Illegible-rubber stamped digital copies of a live birth document
do NOT qualify as a BIRTH CIRTIFICATE or a CERTIFIED COPY of one.

END OF STORY.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: January 10, 2011 12:08PM

As far as the law goes, Obama satisfied his obligation by producing his certificate of live birth. Period. So whatever your speculation on his birth certificate, who really gives a fuck? He is the President now, and has less than 2 years to go in the current term. Maybe you should focus more on the future and less on the past.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: WAAH!!! ()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:04PM

Few states issue certified copies of birth records anymore. Current "birth abstracts" usually list only names of parents, places of birth, times/dates, and that's about it. Gone is the delivering doctor info, etc. Probably had to do with privacy concerns, status (legitimate/illigitimate) etc. Beleive this is really nationwide these days. However, since Obama's in his late 40's, he should somewhere have a version of the old-style birth certificate with all that juicy info.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: 4 More Years ()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:12PM

WAAH!!! Wrote:
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> ...with all that juicy info.

I easily can believe THAT is why the original hasn't been released (yet) - probably has errors on it that would be harder to explain than the current (non)"issue".

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:22PM

Obama's hiding something on the certificate, and who knows what the hell it is. I'm not saying he wasn't born here, but he has gone to more trouble than anyone I know in order to prevent the release of the actual document. He wouldn't even produce it in court hearings, and instead his lawyers motioned for delays and dismissals. It simply doesn't make sense to withhold exonerating evidence.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Date: January 10, 2011 07:27PM

THE BABBOON THAT GOES BY THE NAME OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS *NOT*
BORN IN THIS COUNTRY AND THAT IS WHY HE HAS NO BIRTH CIRTIFICATE.

A PHONEY ABSTRACT DOCUMENT WITH AN ILLEGIBLE RUBBER STAMP THAT
SUPPOSEDLY VALIDATES IT, IS *NOT* A BIRTH CIRTIFICATE.

-END OF STORY.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: 4 more years ()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:44PM

The Braindead continue to harp on this nonissue because there aren't any real issues otherwise to harp on - Obama's campaign policies are working right on schedule. Good job, Mr. President!

W.r.t. not releasing a particular document - he doesn't have to; as another poster already noted, he has proven his citizenship. How some other document is worded literally is irrelevant to that (nonissue) question. I already noted I think there are errors on the original certificate that wouldn't help stop this crap, so better to just leave it private and rely on the OTHER legal document that is sufficient.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Sweet ()
Date: January 10, 2011 07:54PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Obama's hiding something on the certificate, and
> who knows what the hell it is.

Like what??? His father was (gasp) Kenyan? I mean, it's not like this isn't already out there.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Date: January 10, 2011 07:59PM

The Braindead continue to harp on this nonissue

YOU KEEP LABELING IT A "NONISSUE", BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT
IT IS AN EXTREMELY VALID ISSUE.

> "because there aren't any real issues otherwise to harp on"

WHEN I SEE A WHITE MAN FREELY HANG EFFIGIES OF THAT NIGGER OBAMA,
THEN YOU CAN SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

> - Obama's campaign policies are working right on schedule.

HAHA YEAH RIGHT.
IF YOU CONSIDER BEING A COMPLETE FUCK UP AND
HOMOSEXUALS PANDERER "WORKING RIGHT"

> "Good job, Mr. President!"

INDEED, GOOD JOB AT SHOWING US WHAT A SPINELESS COWARD YOU ARE.

> "W.r.t. not releasing a particular document - he doesn't have to;

YES HE DOES HAVE TO RELEASE IT.
OTHERWISE WE TECHNICALLY HAVE AN UN-QUALIFIED PERSON *ACTING* AS PRESIDENT.

>as another poster already noted, he has proven his citizenship."

WE HAVR GONE OVER TIME AND TIME AGAIN, EXACTLY JUST HOW HE
HAS *NOT* PROVEN CITIZENSHIP.

> "How some other document is worded literally is irrelevant
> to that (nonissue) question."

EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT, NOT JUST THE STUFF YOU SAY IS.

> "I already noted I think there are errors on the original
> certificate that wouldn't help stop this crap,

SO ?

> "so better to just leave it private and rely on the OTHER
> legal document that is sufficient."

FIRST OF ALL, AN ILLEGIBLE RUBBER STAMP ABSTRACT DIGITAL COPY IS BY FAR
*NOT* SUFFICIENT.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: native 1963 ()
Date: January 15, 2011 07:39AM

Can you believe obama gave away commemrative t-shirts with his 2007 slogan on them at a funeral service. As a parent I would have been insulted. This was a campain speech,....... shamefull.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: pudding proof ()
Date: January 15, 2011 07:52AM

native 1963 Wrote:
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> Can you believe obama gave away commemrative
> t-shirts with his 2007 slogan on them at a funeral
> service.

Well, actually, no I can't believe that.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: January 15, 2011 01:40PM

yes clam them down. clam them all to hell.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: craven moorehead ()
Date: January 16, 2011 09:52AM

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> yes clam them down. clam them all to hell.


Remember Howard Johnson's fried clams? They were the best.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: dika-dika ()
Date: January 19, 2011 04:40AM

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

I guess now they can't find it. So what was posted to represent one?

A couple of folks on FFXU have almost sweared that they have seen it, I'll leave out the names for you to guess.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 19, 2011 07:35AM

It's a deliberate stall tactic. It will be produced at a strategic time. Obama is lame but he is American-born.

What people should be interested in are his college records. How did he pay for college? Was he a recipient of affirmative action? What kind of grades did he get and what kind of radical horseshit did he espouse as a student?


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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: 4 more years ()
Date: January 19, 2011 07:51AM

> ...What people should be interested in are his college records...

Why?

> ...How did he pay for college?...

Who cares? I don't even remember how =I= paid for college!

> ...Was he a recipient of affirmative action?...

Should have been - does it matter? Why?

> ...What kind of grades did he get...

Who cares? He's out of school, last I checked.

> ...and what kind of radical horseshit did he espouse as a student?

I'm more interested in his radical shit now rather than 20-30 years ago.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: January 19, 2011 08:00AM

4 more years Wrote:
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> > ...What people should be interested in are his
> college records...
>
> Why?

Because we have that info from other presidents.
>
> > ...How did he pay for college?...
>
> Who cares? I don't even remember how =I= paid for
> college!

Daddy must have helped, hooray for you.

>
> > ...Was he a recipient of affirmative action?...
>
> Should have been - does it matter? Why?

Because it may show he wasn't really qualified like a lot of affirmative action cases.

>
> > ...What kind of grades did he get...
>
> Who cares? He's out of school, last I checked.

If he got D's, it would be pretty funny.

>
> > ...and what kind of radical horseshit did he
> espouse as a student?
>
> I'm more interested in his radical shit now rather
> than 20-30 years ago.

HE's a douchebag.


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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: KEEP DREAMIN' ()
Date: January 19, 2011 11:27AM

'4 more years' = Pipe Dream

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Britdrnva~ ()
Date: January 19, 2011 12:31PM

KEEP DREAMIN' Wrote:
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> '4 more years' = Pipe Dream

I concur, he was elected on a mandate for change and it's the same ol' shit...just different president. What's funny in a non-haha way is that the conservatives are so angry (they're always angry mind you) yet in my mind he's Bush-lite (with darker skin). Unless the Republicans get a piss-poor presidential nominee in place (i.e. Sara Palin) I don't think Obama stands a chance to get reelected.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: January 19, 2011 12:55PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> KEEP DREAMIN' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > '4 more years' = Pipe Dream
>
> I concur, he was elected on a mandate for change
> and it's the same ol' shit...just different
> president. What's funny in a non-haha way is that
> the conservatives are so angry (they're always
> angry mind you) yet in my mind he's Bush-lite
> (with darker skin). Unless the Republicans get a
> piss-poor presidential nominee in place (i.e. Sara
> Palin) I don't think Obama stands a chance to get
> reelected.

Yeah, this is where the far left folks far short. They don't get the fact that the 'middle of the road' voters went for him because of his "hope and Change" mantra. All his talk about being the most open, closing Gitmo, no Rendition, blah blah blah, blah blah. Then he gets into office and look - his best accomplishment so far? Repealing DADT - sort of. A non-issue for most folks that don't live in the big city areas. Even the tax cut/tax policy issue was a loss for him - as he had railed against the Bush tax cuts for years, but again, reality caused him to follow in his predecessor's footsteps.

He would have really gotten everyone's attention if he had truly just walked out of Iraq and left token security forces, and told Afghanistan to just fuck off. Instead he wallowed about for months waffling on that decision. Really made him look like he 'had a plan' huh? So what was it, suddenly he found out about the mineral rights in Afghanistan so that changed his worldview?

Most conservatives DON'T assume Palin will be the nominee - so now the question still remains, who will it be? And the reason that is still up in the air - so the Democrats don't start sending in folks to dig up every bit of dirt there is and start shelling us with it before the campaign even starts.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: g.o.peep ()
Date: January 19, 2011 03:31PM

i think the gop ticket will be pawlenty-huckabee, which sounds like the name of a backwoods country singing duo or even a filthy south carolina bbq joint with paper plates and dirt floors.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Date: January 19, 2011 03:55PM

YEAH, LET'S START MAKING FUN OF NAMES.

HOW ABOUT : "BARACK OBAMA"
NOW THERE IS A SPEAR CHUCKING BONE IN NOSE TAR BABY NAME, IF I EVER SAW ONE.

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: he is a fake ()
Date: January 23, 2011 08:13AM

YES He is a FAKE

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Re: Is obama's lack of birth certificate causing all this discontent?
Posted by: Teh King ()
Date: January 23, 2011 11:03AM

Eric Cantor says Barry is good enough so it's good enough for me.

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