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Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Date: December 14, 2010 03:41PM

The guy may have been innocent of the crimes committed by his father. But the fact he decided to hang himself with his 2-year-old sleeping in the next room over without anyone around makes him kind of an asshole. Don't you think?

Madoff's wife, Stephanie, sent her stepfather to the couple's home after he e-mailed her at Disney World in Florida, where she was vacationing with their 4-year-old daughter. In the messages, he told her he loved her and that someone should check on their 2-year-old child, Nicholas, police said. He left no suicide note. Saturday marked the two-year anniversary of the arrest of Bernie Madoff, who pleaded guilty to 11 federal crimes and admitted to turning his wealth management business into a massive scheme that defrauded thousands of investors of billions of dollars.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Stinkfist ()
Date: December 14, 2010 03:49PM

Yeah. Incredibly selfish.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: December 14, 2010 03:52PM

Most suicides are selfish.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: vgnlinfxn ()
Date: December 14, 2010 03:53PM

Suicide is always selfish, but this is a higher level. What if the kid had found him? He emailed her, so it's not like there was a guarantee that she would call the police immediately.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Count Dracula ()
Date: December 14, 2010 03:54PM

I read this morning that nobody has claimed his body yet.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: I know ()
Date: December 14, 2010 03:57PM

Yo I honestly think the dude was killed and was made to look like a suicide job 'n shit. I am thinkin the Mafia is tryin to send pops a message to reveal where he hid the stash or the fam gets it. Dude had no reason to kill himself and all those reasons the media gave out I'd bs.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Date: December 14, 2010 04:00PM

I know Wrote:
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> Yo I honestly think the dude was killed and was
> made to look like a suicide job 'n shit. I am
> thinkin the Mafia is tryin to send pops a message
> to reveal where he hid the stash or the fam gets
> it. Dude had no reason to kill himself and all
> those reasons the media gave out I'd bs.


I always kind of wonder if there really is an "Eraser"-type group out there who stages the death of people like Mark Madoff and Ken Lay in order for them to escape justice. They end up living in the Middle East somewhere or in some other country that will protect their identities for a large fee. I can't see this as being beyond the realm of possibility.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: December 14, 2010 04:18PM

An asshole move indeed to even risk traumatized the son. But suicide is something usually done by crazy people and he probably in his sick mind thought he was doing the right thing the way he did it.

From the accounts I've heard, I think there is a good chancec that Justice was going to hit he and his brother with new indictments in the near future or at least some very serious civil charges. I've never bought the story that their father was turned in by some act of conscience. They were probably stabbing one another in the back every chance they could and it looks like the son could have faced a forfeiture of his homes and assets.

What's life without riches? Boohoo, poor me...


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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: December 14, 2010 06:32PM

I used to think people who did that sort of thing were being selfish, but after my neighbor and friend did it, I just can't look at it the same anymore.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Conie ()
Date: December 14, 2010 06:38PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> I used to think people who did that sort of thing
> were being selfish, but after my neighbor and
> friend did it, I just can't look at it the same
> anymore.


It's a desperate thing..to take your own life. I'm sure

people who are at that point aren't in their right mind.

They're beyond the point of wondering whether they should do

it because their 2 yr. old son is sleeping nearby.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: December 14, 2010 06:44PM

Totally irresponsible as a parent. Good thing he's dead.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: December 14, 2010 06:54PM

I'm sure the kid has a huge ass trust fund waiting for him.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Conie ()
Date: December 14, 2010 06:57PM

eesh Wrote:
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> I'm sure the kid has a huge ass trust fund waiting
> for him.


And what good is that (huge amounts of money) when the poor kid has

this past to deal with?

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: December 14, 2010 07:28PM

Conie Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm sure the kid has a huge ass trust fund
> waiting
> > for him.
>
>
> And what good is that (huge amounts of money)
> when the poor kid has
>
> this past to deal with?




He can blow his fortunes on hookers, fast cars, and crack. It's what I would do to deal with crippling depression.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Moose ()
Date: December 14, 2010 11:33PM

I saw on the news with this guy that his wife sent her father over to check out the situation. If this was true, of course, this is not something this man would want to find. What if she didn't read her e-mail that day? Hell, what if she didn't care and sent no one over there? What in the world would this child have seen and remembered? Ugh. For this child's sake, I certainly hope nothing was seen.
~~

One of my parents passed away from a serious illness when I was 10 yrs. old. Two years later, I walked in my home to find my other parent after having tried to commit suicide. This happened 3 other times through to my being 14 yrs. old. I either caught it in time ~ each time or my parent was just crying out for some kind of attention, I don't know.
I'll just speak from my experience. I was still learning to deal with the loss of one parent whom I dearly loved and then this. I didn't understand. I had no siblings to bounce anything off of or lean on. I became quiet and the dutiful daughter, always feeling that I had to do everything right. Yes, I understood that this parent lost their spouse and how sad this person now was and was now more financially difficult. I somehow grew up, I guess you'd say: normal, with no serious after effects from what I had seen. I guess if you could say something good came out of it ~ I refused to ever do any drugs. But, I will tell ya, no one knew that I was quite hurt/angry inside. I recall quite clearly the paramedics and police in our home, each time and my feeling of being so scared, "what was I going to do now? "What's going to happen to me? Where am I going to live?" And then, becoming very angry. (I was only 14) Realizing later that it was a problem my parent had, it really didn't have anything to do with me. If it were not for the police officer's who were so kind when talking to me, trying to help this young girl, I really don't know how I would have turned out. In our/my situation, I felt it to be very selfish. It wasn't just one attempt, but 4. There was never an explanation, never an apology and maybe one didn't need to be given, I don't know. It was swept under the rug and I was left to deal with my feelings on my own, feeling as if I'm sure family and friends have to deal with, when someone does complete the act. I understand that there are so many different situations and reasons why someone may feel so desperate but, every time that I hear of someone doing this, I become so angry inside.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Moose ()
Date: December 14, 2010 11:42PM

Annnd, I "just" read the news clip above, Stepfather. I stand corrected.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: tomahawk ()
Date: December 15, 2010 12:32AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> I always kind of wonder if there really is an
> "Eraser"-type group out there who stages the death
> of people like Mark Madoff and Ken Lay in order
> for them to escape justice. They end up living in
> the Middle East somewhere or in some other country
> that will protect their identities for a large
> fee. I can't see this as being beyond the realm of
> possibility.


Write the screenplay, man.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Living with Depression ()
Date: December 15, 2010 02:14AM

As someone who has lived with depression for 30+ years, I'm finally at a level where I can say "I feel pretty damn good". However, it was a long road. What gets me is when people say that suicide is selfish. To some, maybe it is. To someone who is depressed and suffering, maybe not so much.

After living with suicidal idealation for so long in the past, life was very painful. Yet, I still held good positions at work, did well in college and would use my sick day benefits for when I felt the worst.

I think there needs to be someone like Jack Kevorkian who can step in and assist when people have reached a point in their lives where they just can't go on. I realize Jack Kevorkian's original intent was to assist the elderly and those with horrible health issues into a "peaceful" death. However, for others who have faced serious depression, it can be a tough spot to be in - and many just want to "peacefully" leave this world ... even in selfish sort of ways.

With that being said, as I mentioned before - 30+ years of living with this pain on an off has put me through a lot. Usually, this time of the year - leading up to Christmas was always the most painful. I just wanted to forgo Christmas completely - but my wife reminded me, we had a daughter to celebrate Christmas for. However, this year is a great one. I have to pay out of pocket to see my Psychiatrist 4 times a year, because he doesn't accept insurance. However, he's good, he listened to me, and properly diagnosed me. It's a small price to pay for the good feeling i now have.

Happy Holidays, Everyone !

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: *Question Haver* ()
Date: December 15, 2010 02:26AM

"It's a small price to pay for the good feeling i now have."

WHAT DID HE PRESCRIBE, SEROQUEL ?

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Living with Depression ()
Date: December 15, 2010 06:04AM

*Question Haver* Wrote:
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> "It's a small price to pay for the good feeling i
> now have."
>
> WHAT DID HE PRESCRIBE, SEROQUEL ?

No. I have type II Bi-polar depression. I take Effexor ER (Extended Release) and Depakote. The only major side-effect of the Effexor is that I sweat like crazy in the Summer when I'm doing activities like cutting the grass. Seroquel is about the only med i didn't try. Paxil, Prozac, Celexa, Wellbutrin, and Lexapro were tried with OK effects, not great effects.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Teh King ()
Date: December 15, 2010 06:43AM

Living with Depression Wrote:
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> As someone who has lived with depression for 30+
> years, I'm finally at a level where I can say "I
> feel pretty damn good". However, it was a long
> road. What gets me is when people say that
> suicide is selfish. To some, maybe it is. To
> someone who is depressed and suffering, maybe not
> so much.
>
> After living with suicidal idealation for so long
> in the past, life was very painful. Yet, I still
> held good positions at work, did well in college
> and would use my sick day benefits for when I felt
> the worst.
>
> I think there needs to be someone like Jack
> Kevorkian who can step in and assist when people
> have reached a point in their lives where they
> just can't go on. I realize Jack Kevorkian's
> original intent was to assist the elderly and
> those with horrible health issues into a
> "peaceful" death. However, for others who have
> faced serious depression, it can be a tough spot
> to be in - and many just want to "peacefully"
> leave this world ... even in selfish sort of
> ways.
>
> With that being said, as I mentioned before - 30+
> years of living with this pain on an off has put
> me through a lot. Usually, this time of the year
> - leading up to Christmas was always the most
> painful. I just wanted to forgo Christmas
> completely - but my wife reminded me, we had a
> daughter to celebrate Christmas for. However,
> this year is a great one. I have to pay out of
> pocket to see my Psychiatrist 4 times a year,
> because he doesn't accept insurance. However,
> he's good, he listened to me, and properly
> diagnosed me. It's a small price to pay for the
> good feeling i now have.
>
> Happy Holidays, Everyone !


For some reason I doubt that Mark Madoff had a 30 year history, or even a history of depression or suicidal ideation that existed prior to his father's scheme getting busted.

Congrats on getting your depression under control. It must feel like a new lease on life.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Brian Peppers ()
Date: December 15, 2010 06:52AM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> I used to think people who did that sort of thing
> were being selfish, but after my neighbor and
> friend did it, I just can't look at it the same
> anymore.
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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Moose ()
Date: December 15, 2010 08:45AM

Living with Depression,
May you continue to feel peace and comfort. I wish you well.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Wahhh ()
Date: December 15, 2010 09:07AM

It's funny...Madoff's son commits suicide because he is traumatized by what his dad did. Yet he does it with his 2 year old son in the next room, potentially traumitizing him...like father like son!

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Brian Peppers ()
Date: December 15, 2010 09:10AM

Wahhh Wrote:
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> It's funny...Madoff's son commits suicide because
> he is traumatized by what his dad did. Yet he does
> it with his 2 year old son in the next room,
> potentially traumitizing him...like father like
> son!


Oh, the irony.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Living With Depression ()
Date: December 15, 2010 10:27AM

Wahhh Wrote:
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> It's funny...Madoff's son commits suicide because
> he is traumatized by what his dad did. Yet he does
> it with his 2 year old son in the next room,
> potentially traumitizing him...like father like
> son!

I don't think it will really ever be known "why" he did it - other than being traumatized. Unless, the note or message he gets sent is released. Wikileaks?

Sure, it could be a cycle of trauma. Or, it could turn out OK. The son is only 2. With the right precautions, it can be OK.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: Brian Peppers ()
Date: December 15, 2010 10:30AM

Living With Depression Wrote:
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> Wahhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's funny...Madoff's son commits suicide
> because
> > he is traumatized by what his dad did. Yet he
> does
> > it with his 2 year old son in the next room,
> > potentially traumitizing him...like father like
> > son!
>
> I don't think it will really ever be known "why"
> he did it - other than being traumatized. Unless,
> the note or message he gets sent is released.
> Wikileaks?
>
> Sure, it could be a cycle of trauma. Or, it could
> turn out OK. The son is only 2. With the right
> precautions, it can be OK.


No, the son will most probably end up doing this:
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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Date: December 15, 2010 10:34AM

So what was the deal with it taking four or five days for the family to claim the body? Were they worried about being sued?

Nice group, there. No wonder the guy killed himself.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: themuse ()
Date: December 15, 2010 05:00PM

Conie Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm sure the kid has a huge ass trust fund
> waiting
> > for him.
>
>
> And what good is that (huge amounts of money)
> when the poor kid has
>
> this past to deal with?

tis better to be a rich miserable fuck than a poor one, nugget.

yeefuckinghaw

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: esumeht ()
Date: December 15, 2010 05:24PM

Yes and if you are into impersonating a woman on the internet, it is best done
with a XXXL Black Dildo rammed far up your as like 'themuse' does.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: themuse ()
Date: December 15, 2010 05:50PM

esumeht Wrote:
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> Yes and if you are into impersonating a woman on
> the internet, it is best done
> with a XXXL Black Dildo rammed far up your as
> like 'themuse' does.


come on troll. what happened to our spaghetti dinner?
mmmm?

yeefuckinghaw

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: esumeht ()
Date: December 15, 2010 06:20PM

'themuse' wrote :
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> "come on troll. what happened to our spaghetti dinner?
> mmmmmmmm"

You asked me to SKIP IT and FUCK you in your ASS instead, I cordially declined.

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: brian eats peppers ()
Date: December 16, 2010 07:19PM

>No, the son will most probably end up doing this:

His son has a girly body and long hair

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Re: Madoff's Son Kind of an Asshole
Posted by: themuse ()
Date: December 16, 2010 09:57PM

brian eats peppers Wrote:
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> >No, the son will most probably end up doing this:
>
>
> His son has a girly body and long hair


this is hot, imo.

yeefuckinghaw

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