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Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 15, 2010 10:39PM

executed?

Teresa Lewis is scheduled to be executed on September 23, 2010. She pleaded guilty to hiring two men to kill her husband and her step-son for insurance money. The dudes got life (one committed suicide); she got the death penalty. Now she is saying she shouldn't be executed because she scored 70 on an IQ test and has some type of personality disorder.

The last time a woman was executed in Virginia was 1912.

http://off2dr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1994.105


Her save me site
http://www.saveteresalewis.org/index.html

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 15, 2010 10:44PM

I sincerely hope she will be executed. Women should not be given any leniency with the death penalty.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 15, 2010 10:46PM

Kill the retarded bitch!!!

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: September 15, 2010 10:49PM

smart enough to know what an IQ test is she is smart enough to die.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 15, 2010 10:49PM

She's stupid and just gets a hankerin' for murder once in a while. Can you really blame her?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 15, 2010 11:02PM

Fry the bitch.



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: September 15, 2010 11:05PM

ughh, i think she may have cheated on her IQ test.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 15, 2010 11:51PM

I'm sorry but if that was the last female left on the
face of the planet, humans would certainly go extinct.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Stinkfist ()
Date: September 16, 2010 01:29AM

If they don't kill her they could at least put a pillow case over her head.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 16, 2010 04:46AM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> I'm sorry but if that was the last female left on
> the
> face of the planet, humans would certainly go
> extinct.
>
>
> .

If that was the case, I think I might actually find the Arab alternate solution somewhat appealing *Shudders*

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 16, 2010 04:48AM

Wow, she killed a National Guardsman son, and her husband? Please, toss the switch on the bitch already.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:07AM

They're surprised that a person sporting a female mullet and missing a tooth would only score a 70 on an IQ test? This is the kind of person who buys the max limit per customer of commemorative coins from sunday infomercials for god's sake... You know, real Mensa material..

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:10AM

CRUCIFY HER!

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:21AM

They don't do the electric chair anymore so saying "fry her" isn't right. A couple states still do firing squad though, and maybe hanging. I think you get to choose there. I'd probably go with firing squad myself.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:30AM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> I'd probably go with
> firing squad myself.




Real men choose the breaking wheel.




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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:51AM

does fisty have any thoughts on what should transpire?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: fisty ()
Date: September 16, 2010 10:53AM

Yes, I say drizzle her with chocolate and let spunky eat her. I will fist the corpse afterwards because no one will eat an asshole.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Catherine wheel ()
Date: September 16, 2010 11:02AM

Give her the Catherine wheel.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Withnf ()
Date: September 16, 2010 02:46PM

What difference does it make that she's a woman? If you commit a crime punishable by death, why are you surprised and appalled when you get the death penalty?! There have been women in the last 98 years that have deserved the death penalty, arguably more so than Lewis, but judges have been too chickenshit to actually do it. Or hide behind the "what kind of precedent is that setting?" argument. I applaud this judge for having the balls to at least try.

Obviously, she is of no use to society. (The mullet alone should sentence her to death.) She's retarded, cheats on her husband, kills her stepson who was serving his country, and laid in bed next to her husband knowing full well that he's gonna die that night. She's scum of the earth and has offered nothing to society so we should not offer her anything in return, especially not mercy.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Banter ()
Date: September 16, 2010 02:49PM

Your second paragraph is irrelevant but the first is spot on. She committed a crime, was found guilty in a court of law, and a punishment was served accordingly. Why all the arguing now.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 16, 2010 03:58PM

Lets see, she had an affair with one of the killers, she had her husband and step-son people killed, was home when the murders took place (the step-son was killed outright), waited 45 minutes to call 911 while her husband bled to death, and then claimed home invasion when the police arrived.

I think a vat of hot oil at the Rte 11 potato chip factory over in Mount Jackson and her should have a date...

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 16, 2010 04:24PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> Lets see, she had an affair with one of the
> killers, she had her husband and step-son people
> killed, was home when the murders took place (the
> step-son was killed outright), waited 45 minutes
> to call 911 while her husband bled to death, and
> then claimed home invasion when the police
> arrived.
>
> I think a vat of hot oil at the Rte 11 potato chip
> factory over in Mount Jackson and her should have
> a date...

It looks like she's already had numerous dates with potato chips.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: September 16, 2010 08:01PM

From her "Save me site":
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She believes deeply in her Christian faith.

Yeah, if she was such a devout Christian, then why did she have her entire family executed?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: September 16, 2010 08:10PM

I don't believe in capital punishment for women.






I don't think a woman should be hung like a man

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: bloody blisters ()
Date: September 16, 2010 08:40PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> From her "Save me site": She believes deeply in
> her Christian faith.
>

makes sense for someone with a 70 IQ

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Date: September 16, 2010 08:48PM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 16, 2010 08:49PM

I read that she had her daughter have sex with one of the killers. Her daughter served five years because she knew about the plan but didn't tell anyone.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 16, 2010 11:31PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> From her "Save me site": She believes deeply in
> her Christian faith.
>
> Yeah, if she was such a devout Christian, then why
> did she have her entire family executed?


That was before!

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 16, 2010 11:42PM

TPL wrote:
> "> Yeah, if she was such a devout Christian, then why
> did she have her entire family executed?"

To bring them closer to God, silly goose.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:03AM

if she is a Christian, then the death penalty shouldnt be a big deal. i think the death penalty is more humane than a life in prison. why would you even want to wake up the next day if you have no chance at getting out of jail?


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:20AM

Ummmmmm, grits and butter?


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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 17, 2010 08:08AM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 17, 2010 08:18AM

I'm against the DP because they've fucked up and juiced the wrong guy and came close too many times. LWOP would probably suffice in her case, but I'm sure I'd have a bloodlust for this bitch if I knew her victims. It's healthy and natural to want retribution.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 10:43AM

So sentencing somebody to LWOP is any better? The claim is that somebody will spend the rest of their natural life in prison. Wow. So, a person is wrongly sentenced to spend their last waking day in a 8x6 cell.

How is that better than wrongly executing somebody - not that its happened...?



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 17, 2010 10:53AM

The DP is irreversible, a life sentence is not.The idea is that the possiblity of exculpatory evidence arising and keeping your heart beating until then.

Life would suck, but hope keeps a lot of people going in those circumstances, ie exhausting the appeals process. Give me life- even locked up all day- against something I don't lnow (death) and I'll take life 11 times out of 10.


ITRADE Wrote:
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> So sentencing somebody to LWOP is any better? The
> claim is that somebody will spend the rest of
> their natural life in prison. Wow. So, a person
> is wrongly sentenced to spend their last waking
> day in a 8x6 cell.
>
> How is that better than wrongly executing somebody
> - not that its happened...?


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 11:21AM

Yes, but every DP case involves rounds and rounds of appeals.

If you look at the volume of appeals work in a LWOP case, it pales in comparison.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 17, 2010 11:37AM

But if you lose an appeal and you're serving life, you life.

When all of your appeals are through with the DP, unless there is clemency or some last minute miracle, you die.

I'd rather committ suicide in prison or scheme an escape plot than surrender my life to the state and be executed because the thought of a life sentence depressed me.

ITRADE Wrote:
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> Yes, but every DP case involves rounds and rounds
> of appeals.
>
> If you look at the volume of appeals work in a
> LWOP case, it pales in comparison.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:25PM

WingNut Wrote:
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> But if you lose an appeal and you're serving life,
> you life.
>
> When all of your appeals are through with the DP,
> unless there is clemency or some last minute
> miracle, you die.
>
> I'd rather committ suicide in prison or scheme an
> escape plot than surrender my life to the state
> and be executed because the thought of a life
> sentence depressed me.
>
> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, but every DP case involves rounds and
> rounds
> > of appeals.
> >
> > If you look at the volume of appeals work in a
> > LWOP case, it pales in comparison.


Well, with LWOP you die anyhow.....

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:32PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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>
>
> Well, with LWOP you die anyhow.....


Yeah eventually but you have the chance to possibly be proven innocent. I mean with that argument you could just let them go free because they're going to die eventually anyways.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:49PM

hoocoodanode Wrote:
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> executed?
>
> Teresa Lewis is scheduled to be executed on
> September 23, 2010. She pleaded guilty to hiring
> two men to kill her husband and her step-son for
> insurance money. The dudes got life (one committed
> suicide); she got the death penalty. Now she is
> saying she shouldn't be executed because she
> scored 70 on an IQ test and has some type of
> personality disorder.
>
> The last time a woman was executed in Virginia was
> 1912.
>
> http://off2dr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1994.105
>
>
> Her save me site
> http://www.saveteresalewis.org/index.html

All three of them should get the death penalty. This BS of giving the trigger men life in prison is some serious BS when they did the actual killing - while she may have setup the circumstance and had the motive, they performed the actual deed.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 17, 2010 01:07PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> That's why they call it a penitentiary- it's
> supposed to be a place where you beg for God's
> forgiveness for straying away from His purpose.


not even close.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 03:31PM

He is closer than you might think Gravis.

Actually that was a HUGE historical purpose for jails in this country,
they even used to put a copy of a Bible in every jail cell.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 03:32PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Well, with LWOP you die anyhow.....
>
>
> Yeah eventually but you have the chance to
> possibly be proven innocent. I mean with that
> argument you could just let them go free because
> they're going to die eventually anyways.

As you do with the DP....Its called the appeals process.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 17, 2010 03:58PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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>
> As you do with the DP....Its called the appeals
> process.


The point though is our justice system is imperfect. A man could be convicted of a crime and have run out of appeals and be put to death even though he is innocent.

Edit: On the other side, if they are alive and prove their innocence, while they've no doubt had their lives destroyed and lost time in jail, they are still alive.



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 04:13PM

The basic premise behind this should be, that no one convicted of a crime based solely on circumstantial evidence should ever get the death penalty unless it can be absolutely proven that no one else could have been in that vicinity at the time of the crime. Something like you see two people enter a room with only one door and no windows or other egress, and then later one person comes out. You go in and find the other person dead with a knife stuck in their back that they could not have possibly reached around and put their themselves.

That will be a conviction on circumstantial evidence, with only one obvious conclusion (unless you believe in the supernatural - which likely would have gotten you thrown off the jury).

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 04:17PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> The basic premise behind this should be, that no
> one convicted of a crime based solely on
> circumstantial evidence should ever get the death
> penalty unless it can be absolutely proven that no
> one else could have been in that vicinity at the
> time of the crime. Something like you see two
> people enter a room with only one door and no
> windows or other egress, and then later one person
> comes out. You go in and find the other person
> dead with a knife stuck in their back that they
> could not have possibly reached around and put
> their themselves.
>
Under that rationale, John Muhammed would likely still be alive.

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Date: September 17, 2010 04:21PM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 04:23PM

Oh yes...The Auburn and Pennsylvania systems.

Both meant to dehumanize the offender....Not that they were human when they were imprisoned.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Wahhh ()
Date: September 17, 2010 04:24PM

They should make education mandatory in prisons too.

I say this because there are studies out there that show that individuals who have obtain their GED have a lower rate of recidivism. If they are not lifers, I think they should be given every chance to better themselves for the day they get out. There was an episode of Lock Down that featured a facility somewhere, maybe in Tennessee, that beefed up its education program for inmates and really demonstrated measurable progress.



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 04:50PM

RV wrote:
> "The basic premise behind this should be, that no
> one convicted of a crime based solely on circumstantial
> evidence should ever get the death penalty"

PERIOD. This is where your argument should have stopped.

> "unless it can be absolutely proven that no one else
> could have been in that vicinity at the time of the crime.
> Something like you see two people enter a room with only one
> door and no windows or other egress, and then later one person
> comes out. You go in and find the other person dead with a
> knife stuck in their back that they could not have possibly
> reached around and put their themselves.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND ACCIDENTALLY
STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER VICTIM???

HE STILL DIES?

> "That will be a conviction on circumstantial evidence, with only
> one obvious conclusion (unless you believe in the supernatural
> - which likely would have gotten you thrown off the jury)."

THE ONLY RELEVANT WORD HERE IS 'OBVIOUS' -NOT ALL THINGS,
INCLUDING THE SUPERNATURAL ARE 'OBVIOUS'.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:00PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> RV wrote:
> > "The basic premise behind this should be, that
> no
> > one convicted of a crime based solely on
> circumstantial
> > evidence should ever get the death penalty"
>
> PERIOD. This is where your argument should have
> stopped.
>
> > "unless it can be absolutely proven that no one
> else
> > could have been in that vicinity at the time of
> the crime.
> > Something like you see two people enter a room
> with only one
> > door and no windows or other egress, and then
> later one person
> > comes out. You go in and find the other person
> dead with a
> > knife stuck in their back that they could not
> have possibly
> > reached around and put their themselves.
>
> WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND
> ACCIDENTALLY
> STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER
> VICTIM???
>
What was he doing with a knife out in the first place?

There is no use dealing hypotheticals.

The fact is that all of the Capital cases these days are extremely cut and dry.

Person shoots during a robbery, person drives over a police officer, person murders 3 people in rampage, etc.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:04PM

THOSE were GOOD examples.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:05PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> Troll@AOL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RV wrote:
> > > "The basic premise behind this should be,
> that
> > no
> > > one convicted of a crime based solely on
> > circumstantial
> > > evidence should ever get the death penalty"
> >
> > PERIOD. This is where your argument should
> have
> > stopped.
> >
> > > "unless it can be absolutely proven that no
> one
> > else
> > > could have been in that vicinity at the time
> of
> > the crime.
> > > Something like you see two people enter a
> room
> > with only one
> > > door and no windows or other egress, and then
> > later one person
> > > comes out. You go in and find the other
> person
> > dead with a
> > > knife stuck in their back that they could not
> > have possibly
> > > reached around and put their themselves.
> >
> > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND
> > ACCIDENTALLY
> > STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER
> > VICTIM???
> >
> What was he doing with a knife out in the first
> place?
>
> There is no use dealing hypotheticals.
>
> The fact is that all of the Capital cases these
> days are extremely cut and dry.
>
> Person shoots during a robbery, person drives over
> a police officer, person murders 3 people in
> rampage, etc.

The problem is, of the three people who committed the crimes, the one least involved in the actual murder is the one that got the death penalty. The other 2 who actually pulled the triggers are serving life. That to me seems entirely bogus. All of them are deserving if the least among them is deserving.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:05PM

ITRADE wrote:
> "What was he doing with a knife out in the first place?"

Cuttin' O-ranges.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:07PM

Or better yet, cuttin' cheese, on the way to the bathroom.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:09PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> RV wrote:
> > "The basic premise behind this should be, that
> no
> > one convicted of a crime based solely on
> circumstantial
> > evidence should ever get the death penalty"
>
> PERIOD. This is where your argument should have
> stopped.
>
> > "unless it can be absolutely proven that no one
> else
> > could have been in that vicinity at the time of
> the crime.
> > Something like you see two people enter a room
> with only one
> > door and no windows or other egress, and then
> later one person
> > comes out. You go in and find the other person
> dead with a
> > knife stuck in their back that they could not
> have possibly
> > reached around and put their themselves.
>
> WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND
> ACCIDENTALLY
> STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER
> VICTIM???
>
> HE STILL DIES?
>
> > "That will be a conviction on circumstantial
> evidence, with only
> > one obvious conclusion (unless you believe in
> the supernatural
> > - which likely would have gotten you thrown off
> the jury)."
>
> THE ONLY RELEVANT WORD HERE IS 'OBVIOUS' -NOT ALL
> THINGS,
> INCLUDING THE SUPERNATURAL ARE 'OBVIOUS'.
>
>
> .

So you accuse the one person of murder, and they offer up that the suspect tripped and stabbed themselves. If the jury believes them and they establish reasonable doubt, more power to them. Much like the OJ gloves I presume, although in my example it was obvious who was where, and when they were there. The entrance and exit was witnessed, and it would be proven the victim could not have possibly contorted themselves to the extent possible to stab themselves in such a way - even if they did fall. But hey, if the defense could get an expert to prove something totally improbable and get the jury to buy it, then fine. But for the most part it should be fully witnessed, and obvious the perpetrator did the crime - then fry their ass and get them out of our misery.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:10PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ITRADE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Troll@AOL Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > RV wrote:
> > > > "The basic premise behind this should be,
> > that
> > > no
> > > > one convicted of a crime based solely on
> > > circumstantial
> > > > evidence should ever get the death penalty"
>
> > >
> > > PERIOD. This is where your argument should
> > have
> > > stopped.
> > >
> > > > "unless it can be absolutely proven that no
> > one
> > > else
> > > > could have been in that vicinity at the
> time
> > of
> > > the crime.
> > > > Something like you see two people enter a
> > room
> > > with only one
> > > > door and no windows or other egress, and
> then
> > > later one person
> > > > comes out. You go in and find the other
> > person
> > > dead with a
> > > > knife stuck in their back that they could
> not
> > > have possibly
> > > > reached around and put their themselves.
> > >
> > > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND
> > > ACCIDENTALLY
> > > STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER
> > > VICTIM???
> > >
> > What was he doing with a knife out in the first
> > place?
> >
> > There is no use dealing hypotheticals.
> >
> > The fact is that all of the Capital cases these
> > days are extremely cut and dry.
> >
> > Person shoots during a robbery, person drives
> over
> > a police officer, person murders 3 people in
> > rampage, etc.
>
> The problem is, of the three people who committed
> the crimes, the one least involved in the actual
> murder is the one that got the death penalty. The
> other 2 who actually pulled the triggers are
> serving life. That to me seems entirely bogus. All
> of them are deserving if the least among them is
> deserving.

Easy way to solve it. Anyone within the Commonwealth of Virginia found guilty of a murder which meets one or more of the elements listed in § 18.2-31 of the Virginia code shall be condemned to death.

That work for you?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:13PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Troll@AOL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RV wrote:
> > > "The basic premise behind this should be,
> that
> > no
> > > one convicted of a crime based solely on
> > circumstantial
> > > evidence should ever get the death penalty"
> >
> > PERIOD. This is where your argument should
> have
> > stopped.
> >
> > > "unless it can be absolutely proven that no
> one
> > else
> > > could have been in that vicinity at the time
> of
> > the crime.
> > > Something like you see two people enter a
> room
> > with only one
> > > door and no windows or other egress, and then
> > later one person
> > > comes out. You go in and find the other
> person
> > dead with a
> > > knife stuck in their back that they could not
> > have possibly
> > > reached around and put their themselves.
> >
> > WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUSPECT TRIPPED AND
> > ACCIDENTALLY
> > STABBED YOUR HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGED MURDER
> > VICTIM???
> >
> > HE STILL DIES?
> >
> > > "That will be a conviction on circumstantial
> > evidence, with only
> > > one obvious conclusion (unless you believe in
> > the supernatural
> > > - which likely would have gotten you thrown
> off
> > the jury)."
> >
> > THE ONLY RELEVANT WORD HERE IS 'OBVIOUS' -NOT
> ALL
> > THINGS,
> > INCLUDING THE SUPERNATURAL ARE 'OBVIOUS'.
> >
> >
> > .
>
> So you accuse the one person of murder, and they
> offer up that the suspect tripped and stabbed
> themselves. If the jury believes them and they
> establish reasonable doubt, more power to them.
> Much like the OJ gloves I presume, although in my
> example it was obvious who was where, and when
> they were there. The entrance and exit was
> witnessed, and it would be proven the victim could
> not have possibly contorted themselves to the
> extent possible to stab themselves in such a way -
> even if they did fall. But hey, if the defense
> could get an expert to prove something totally
> improbable and get the jury to buy it, then fine.
> But for the most part it should be fully
> witnessed, and obvious the perpetrator did the
> crime - then fry their ass and get them out of our
> misery.


Most murders are not witnessed by anybody except the murderer and the murdered. Nobody could positively identify John Muhammed and Malvo as the murderers. It required forensic evidence for that....



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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:30PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> Easy way to solve it. Anyone within the
> Commonwealth of Virginia found guilty of a murder
> which meets one or more of the elements listed in
> § 18.2-31 of the Virginia code shall be condemned
> to death.
>
> That work for you?

You did see that the trigger guys cut deals, thus getting out of the death penalty. That is what I don't like about the outcome. They should all be in the same boat.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:34PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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>
> Most murders are not witnessed by anybody except
> the murderer and the murdered. Nobody could
> positively identify John Muhammed and Malvo as the
> murderers. It required forensic evidence for
> that....

Did any of us see all the evidence? Somehow I doubt that. But if folks want to come here and argue that innocents are killed by the death penalty, then I am just offering up thoughts on what might make them feel more comfortable with ensuring the person convicted is truly deserving. If all you want to do is hide behind the law, you aren't really addressing anything.

I recall a similar conversation with one of our State senators one time. He was advocating that only the murderers should get the death penalty, not the folks involved in the planning. In his scenario the wife would not have gotten the death penalty.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:36PM

Low IQ or not, the woman was the mastermind of this, not the muscle.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 17, 2010 05:39PM

Mastermind = Muscle


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 17, 2010 09:24PM

"Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell has declined to issue a stay of execution in the case of Teresa Lewis, who in 2003 pled guilty to two counts of capital murder. This clears the way for her execution on Wednesday, Sept. 23. She will be the first woman executed in the Commonwealth in over a century."

http://www2.wsls.com/news/2010/sep/17/gov-bob-mcdonnell-scheduled-execution-teresa-lewis-ar-511609/

The article says she has a pending petition at the Supreme Court. Can she be executed before the Supremes give a decision?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 17, 2010 09:47PM

The Court will issue its opinion before then. Once thats done, its pretty much lights out (or it should be)....Although I can guarantee you that you will see another habeus petition at the Federal level....

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 20, 2010 06:30PM

Iran wants her to live.


"Iran accused the US of human rights violations today over plans by the state of Virginia to execute a woman for the first time in nearly 100 years, despite claims that she has severe learning difficulties.

Iran's state-sponsored media has devoted considerable coverage to reports about Teresa Lewis, who is scheduled to die by lethal injection on Thursday for arranging the murder of her husband and stepson in 2002.

The parliamentary human rights committee said her case reflected "the double standards" of the American government, comparing her case to that of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, a 43-year-old Iranian woman sentenced to death by stoning for adultery.

"We will file an official complaint to the international community against the US if the sentence is administered," Hossein Naghavi, an Iranian MP and the spokesman for the committee, told the semi-official Fars news agency. Several Iranian MPs have expressed concerns over Lewis's execution and have asked the US for her sentence to be commuted."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/20/iran-criticises-us-double-standards

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 20, 2010 07:54PM

LMAO Why the fuck would Iran care about some stupid white trash woman? They are just shit stirring once again.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 20, 2010 11:01PM

eesh Wrote:
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> LMAO Why the fuck would Iran care about some
> stupid white trash woman? They are just shit
> stirring once again.

Baboon I'madinnertable can't seem to see the difference between:

Humanely executing a woman who murdered her husband and kid

Throwing rocks at a girl until she dies because she let a strange man touch her lady bits

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 20, 2010 11:22PM

It'd be great if we called their bluff and declared the death penalty illegal.

Now what, Iran?!?!

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 20, 2010 11:37PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LMAO Why the fuck would Iran care about some
> > stupid white trash woman? They are just shit
> > stirring once again.
>
> Baboon I'madinnertable can't seem to see the
> difference between:
>
> Humanely executing a woman who murdered her
> husband and kid
>
> Throwing rocks at a girl until she dies because
> she let a strange man touch her lady bits





They're just crying to the international community in hopes the US will look like hypocrites when we are critical of their execution methods.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 21, 2010 12:58AM

Boy did Iran make themselves look stupid opening their
big fat mouths about this one. This lady may have a learning
disablity, but she learned a long time ago that it is NOT
okay to murder your husband and child for money. I have
known, and know legal retards who know better than this and
have lower IQs than this ladys labored low score on a test
she most likely was TRYING to score low on for her defense
in this case, or to get some type of Government assistance
in the past.
Fuck this calculated child murdering woman.
You can look at her and see the intelligence in her eyes.
She is NO retard.

She is UGLY, but NO retard.


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Date: September 21, 2010 02:19AM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 21, 2010 02:41AM

"serial killer"?

Maybe you read something I didn't.
Or possibly I have my stories confused.

And NO I don't get what you are hinting @

Please, please elaborate your supposition on :
"exactly how he did it"


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Date: September 21, 2010 05:12AM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 21, 2010 09:05AM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> What he did is he decided to play a game, to see
> what how far he could actually go. When he found a
> weak-willed person (who was probably already prone
> to this- Teresa Lewis is not blameless in this) he
> decided he wanted to play "professional hit man".
>
The system took care of Shallenberger - he hanged himself with bedsheets four years ago. So now Lewis can take a similar dirt nap.

Two less pieces of scum to breathe my air.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 21, 2010 01:38PM

Inasmuch as I haven't committed or authorized the murder of another human being, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 21, 2010 04:17PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Teresa Lewis is not faking her low IQ- she really
> is that dumb.

being dumb does not mean you dont know right from wrong,


> She also has some sort of
> personality disorder cluster that she's prone to
> fantasy and she allows herself to become very
> dependent on someone, even to the point that she
> does something against her good judgment and
> morality; like letting Shallenberger play out his
> hit man fantasies.


i dont buy it.


> Oh, and if you think it's not possible that one
> person seduced and manipulated all these people
> into committing murder and all sorts of other
> horrible acts, here's two thoughts:
>
> "If you loved me, you'd do it for me."


but here's the thing, she wasnt told to kill anyone. do you think he said, "if you love me, you will hire me and my friend to kill your family." it doesnt add up.


i know you want to think that people with low IQs are all nice cheery people but it's not true. this is an example staring you in the face and you are denying it.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 21, 2010 06:29PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Humanely executing a woman who murdered her
> husband and kid
>


The son was an adult and was in the Army Reserves.

I read an article that said she and the two men originally planned on killing the father and then killing the son when he came home for the funeral. When they found out he was already home they offed them both.

Here is a letter from her attorney to Gov. McDonnell. I detect a little snark in it.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/lewis.pdf

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: September 21, 2010 06:33PM

Wouldn't it be fun to be governor and be able to take this letter out the envelope, read a sentence or two and then summarily dismiss and crumple it into a wad?

Sounds like they got the right bitch, murder for hire is almost worst than murder- fuck her.

hoocoodanode Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Humanely executing a woman who murdered her
> > husband and kid
> >
>
>
> The son was an adult and was in the Army Reserves.
>
>
> I read an article that said she and the two men
> originally planned on killing the father and then
> killing the son when he came home for the funeral.
> When they found out he was already home they offed
> them both.
>
> Here is a letter from her attorney to Gov.
> McDonnell. I detect a little snark in it.
>
> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/
> lewis.pdf


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: hoocoodanode ()
Date: September 21, 2010 10:07PM

The Supremes refused to block the execution.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 21, 2010 10:43PM

Diana Ross is pretty bloodthirsty.

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Date: September 21, 2010 10:59PM

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 21, 2010 11:42PM

Well Chuckyboo, sounds like you must be familiar with 'trash'
in general, either that or YOU are just some stupid minority
that wants to inject racism into the discussion.
She is a crazy bitch, NOT trash defined by ethnicity.


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Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 21, 2010 11:57PM

If that is a picature of yourself,
looks like you guys would have made a great couple.
In a fucking trailer park, that is.

Geez tawk about the spaghetti pot calling
the cookie sheet black.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 21, 2010 11:58PM

Chuck, do you work in a comic book store? You seem to fit the personality of a middle aged comic book store employee.

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Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: September 22, 2010 12:57AM

Quote
BBC - US Supreme Court allows execution of Virginia woman
file.php?40,file=23325,filename=plotter.The US Supreme Court has refused to halt the Virginia execution of a woman who admitted conspiring to kill her husband and stepson.

On Thursday Teresa Lewis, 41, is set to become the first woman to be executed in the US for five years and in Virginia since 1912.

Lewis, said to have learning difficulties, left a door unlocked at the family home so gunmen could enter.

The two gunmen who carried out the 2002 killings received life sentences.

Two of three women in the nine-judge court voted to halt the execution.

Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor voted against but there was no other comment from the court.

Virginia Governor Robert McDonnell has said he will not commute the death penalty, despite claims about Lewis's learning difficulties.

Lawyers for Lewis - due to die by lethal injection - filed a petition for executive clemency on 25 August 2010.

Declining to commute the sentence, Virginia Governor Robert McDonnell said: "Lewis does not deny that she committed these heinous crimes.

"Numerous psychiatrists and psychologists have analysed Lewis, both before and after her sentencing.

"After numerous evaluations, no medical professional has concluded that Teresa Lewis meets the medical or statutory definition of mentally retarded."

Lewis's husband, Julian Lewis, 51, and stepson, Charles Lewis, 25, were killed with shotgun blasts by Matthew Shallenberger and Rodney Fuller at their home in Danville, Virginia.
left
Fuller reportedly arranged a deal with prosecutors and received a life sentence.

Shallenberger - who was Lewis's lover - was also sentenced to life. Lewis's lawyers argue that he manipulated her.

Lewis was motivated by inheriting her husband's assets and her stepson's life insurance. She paid for the weapons and ammunition used in the murders.

Prosecutors said Lewis's husband was still alive after the shootings and that she waited 45 minutes before ringing police.

i've known people with learning difficulties and they are normal people, they just have problems learning things that have to due with specific areas of the brain.

also, there were plenty of opportunities to back out. for example: when he was begging for her to call an ambulance.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



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Posted by: eesh ()
Date: September 22, 2010 01:00AM

Gravis Wrote:
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> there were plenty of opportunities to back out.
> for example: when he was begging for her to call
> an ambulance.





Yeah, waiting for 45 minutes to dial 911 kinda confirms the suspicions placed on her.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 22, 2010 08:56AM

Exactly.

Wormfood in 36 hours.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 23, 2010 09:54AM

tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock

What do you guys think she's having for a last meal?

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 23, 2010 09:54AM

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock
>
> What do you guys think she's having for a last
> meal?

Deep fried twinkies and a KFC Double-Down.

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Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 23, 2010 09:57AM

and a Mountain Dew to wash it down

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Date: September 23, 2010 10:49AM


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 23, 2010 11:01AM

An impressive analysis if you love bashing "liberals" at any opportunity, no matter how tenuous the connection, yes. Loved how he threw in the oppression of all the Christians in America there at the end for no apparent reason but just to try to push a little more of his personal political agenda. Classic. An up and coming George Will.

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Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: September 23, 2010 11:35AM

IT IS NOT THE LOVE OF 'BASHING LIBERALS @ ANY OPPORTUNITY'

What about this do you NOT understand, fag-boy?

Excerpt from http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2010/sep/23/shannon-column-death-cheapened-va-ar-521051/#comment_form :

> "So what's with the feminists? Just when I'm ready to
> support their agenda, they go south on me and start bleating
> for clemency. And the liberal arguments for letting Lewis off
> the needle are so sexist and so 1950s!

> She's a woman. She's subject to raging hormonal influences.
> She is suffering from the fantods. She couldn't resist the
> influence of two big, strong men. She can't stand the sight
> of blood. (Well, maybe not that one, since she went through
> her husband's pockets while he was bleeding to death.) She's
> a mother. She's a grandmother. She's retarded. She sings hymns.
> Take your pick."

THE ARTICLE IS JUST POINTING OUT HOW DUMB YOUR
LIBERAL-FUCKTARDS ARGUMENT AND STANCE ON THIS ISSUE IS.

AND YOU KNOW IT.


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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: September 23, 2010 12:40PM

"According to Sky News, Lewis has requested fried chicken, sweet peas and Dr Pepper, and either German cake or apple pie for dessert."

Wow, we weren't too far off...

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 23, 2010 12:50PM

Seriously. If we would have said, "hot apple pie from McDonald's," we would have pretty much nailed it.

This "borderline mentally retarded" issue is bullshit. I've met plenty of actually retarded people, and they never had someone murdered for insurance money.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: September 23, 2010 01:00PM

Its the typical M.O. for the ADP defense attorneys - straight out of the playbook.

A group of ADP attorneys conjure up various defenses and then they play them out in the courts which ties up the litigation for years and years.

The mental retardation card was successfully played for a couple inmates who were seriously fucked in the head. The Supreme Court agreed. Now everybody who is stupid is now cast as being "mentally retarded", "diminished capacity", "borderline challenged", etc.

This is one of the last few cards that the ADP crowd can play. Before this, the card du jour was that lethal injection is "cruel and unusual." The Supreme Court knocked that one down, so they're left with the retardation defense.

Other cards that get played now and again are the "he's been on death row too long" card, the "lethal injection procedures are ambiguous" card, and the "you must publicly identify each member of the execution team" card.

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Re: Will she or won't she be...
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: September 23, 2010 01:07PM

No only is it any attorney's job to pull out all the stops for their client, they are literally trying to save a life. So, yes, they "play" many "cards." If you choose to look at it that way, fine.

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