As an atheist, surrounded by christians and folks from other religions, I find that when I reveal to them that I'm an atheist, their immediate thoughts and reactions turn to Satan. They tend to believe that anyone that doesn't believe in God must be a Satan worshipper (what else could be the reason?).

If I don't believe in God, how could I possibly believe in Satan? They are one and the same in my view, imaginary. Sure, I love a good exorcism or god vs the devil movie, but only because I have a vivid imagination and can suspend my logic and reason long enough to enjoy a film.

My question is, does anyone REALLY believe in Satan? Why didn't he write a book like God did, explaining what we're all supposed to do to appease him? If he's so powerful, how come more people don't preach for him and get the word out?

I think it's because deep down inside, most people don't believe in either god or Satan. If they really believed, they wouldn't sin nearly as much as they do.

People who preach either are terrorists. They achieve their goal of mental and societal conquest by instilling fear and terror in the general population. What's more terrifying than the thought of roasting forever in a sea of flames or any of the other descriptions of hell and damnation?

Whose terrorist tactics have been more effective? Modern day extremists or God's?
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"The fool has said in his heart, there is no God." Psalms 53:1

"Six! Six Six! The number of the beast!" - Bruce Dickinson

ohh noo oo nooo oohh noooooo!
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For some the concept of Satan is a way to explain all the evil in the world, he is someone that people can point a finger at and rationalize what's wrong with the world.

Others it's more of a balance thing, if there is a great, kind God then there has to be an evil antithesis that works against God's plans for the world.

Blessed are the murderous.

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My question is, does anyone REALLY believe in Satan? Why didn't he write a book like God did, explaining what we're all supposed to do to appease him? If he's so powerful, how come more people don't preach for him and get the word out?


good point! maybe it is because Satan is a bigger power than God that He feels like he has to make himself acknowleged ??? SATAN NEEDS NO ADVERTISEMENT:D

fngbngr Wrote:
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> good point! maybe it is because Satan is a bigger
> power than God that He feels like he has to make
> himself acknowleged ??? SATAN NEEDS NO
> ADVERTISEMENT:D


And yet...

Ohhhhhhh,

I get it now!

SATAN is a bigger power than GOD; that's
why he must use LIES and DECEPTION to attract a crowd.

Adareeekie!

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TheMeeper Wrote:
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> "Six! Six Six! The number of the beast!" - Bruce
> Dickinson


+1.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Actually the Bible states that is the number of a MAN. And the MARK of the BEAST.

But who is getting technical right? Your just a bunch of dumbasses that enjoy talking out of their asses and trying to drag everyone else down into your filthy way of thinking by using sock accounts to create the illusion that you have more support for your stance or ridiculous assertions then you actually do.


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Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Actually the Bible states that is the number of a
> MAN. And the MARK of the BEAST.
>
> But who is getting technical right? Your just a
> bunch of dumbasses that enjoy talking out of their
> asses and trying to drag everyone else down into
> your filthy way of thinking by using sock accounts
> to create the illusion that you have more support
> for your stance or ridiculous assertions then you
> actually do.
>
>
> .


WTF are you talking about? Sock accounts?

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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WTF are you talking about? Sock accounts?

LmAo!

that's right!
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> WTF are you talking about? Sock accounts?
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> LmAo!


I must confess, I'm perplexed about the "sock accounts" too.

Why?

The fact that *all* of you are acting oblivious to the term,
when Google is just a click away, re-affirms my *theory*.

: >


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Take God out of your little equation, and you're dead on. Satan = Terrorism. Some people are just so vile and twisted, that I can't imagine any explanation for their behavior other than acknowledging that evil is in fact real, and it exists in a tangible manner upon this Earth.

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Numbers Wrote:
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> As an atheist, surrounded by christians and folks
> from other religions, I find that when I reveal to
> them that I'm an atheist, their immediate thoughts
> and reactions turn to Satan.

I get the same reaction when i tell them I'm Buddhist. Whatevah.

Sock accounts, aka sock puppets are from usenet days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

Cheers!

THIS is how stupid you athiests really are!
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHaSZtf5I1k

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Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> THIS is how stupid you athiests really are!
> Enjoy!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHaSZtf5I1k


LOL! That video is hilarious in its falsity.
Why would Dawkins, a renown ethologist, evolutionary biologist and professor for Public Understanding of Science at Oxford, waste his time debating a renown idiot like Ray Comfort?

Comfort, who is nothing more than a christian minister, has debated far less qualified individuals and gets crushed every time.

stop talking to urself Troll

Time is still ticking, plus I'm sure that idiot 'Dawkins' would
do NO better job @ it than the Peanut Gallery and you have done Numbers.

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Numbers Wrote:
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> I find that when I reveal to
> them that I'm an atheist, their immediate thoughts
> and reactions turn to Satan. They tend to believe
> that anyone that doesn't believe in God must be a
> Satan worshipper (what else could be the reason?).

how could you possibly know what they are thinking?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> Numbers Wrote:
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> > I find that when I reveal to
> > them that I'm an atheist, their immediate
> thoughts
> > and reactions turn to Satan. They tend to
> believe
> > that anyone that doesn't believe in God must be
> a
> > Satan worshipper (what else could be the
> reason?).
>
> how could you possibly know what they are
> thinking?

I can't answer for Numbers (or perhaps I can, if Troll is correct, muwahhaha!), but I've come across this attitude (a similar one).

I'll admit, it's rare (IMO), but a lady at a place I used to work at found out that I was an atheist and she asked me why I would work for the devil.

Actually, I'm not quite certain how the conversation went (it was five years ago, or so) - but I remember trying to explain to her that I didn't see any evidence, that I was skeptical, and I think I made a reference to science. She then said something along the lines of me 'working for the devil'.

Struck me as strange and I admit, it's not the typical reaction. I do believe I've heard similar things on call in internet radio programs (infidelguy), but that's IIRC.

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> how could you possibly know what they are
> thinking?


They almost always ask me either directly or through other channels.

It happened again just the other day when my friend told her friend I was an atheist. The first thing she said when I met her was "oh yeah, you're the devil worshipper".

'Channels', you know like channeling phsycic powers and talking through mediums and shit. So now you have gotten your answer straight from the lizards forked tongue Gravis, it's telepathy. These guys are reptilian shapeshifting imnipotent mind reading creatures, with wings!

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> 'Channels', you know like channeling phsycic
> powers and talking through mediums and shit. So
> now you have gotten your answer straight from the
> lizards forked tongue Gravis, it's telepathy.
> These guys are reptilian shapeshifting imnipotent
> mind reading creatures, with wings!
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Numbers Wrote:
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> The first
> thing she said when I met her was "oh yeah, you're
> the devil worshipper".

are you sure that wasnt a joke, even one at your expense?

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i've never met anyone that associated atheism with anything satanic. i dont know who you hang out with but they seem to be a very odd bunch.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

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> i've never met anyone that associated atheism with
> anything satanic. i dont know who you hang out
> with but they seem to be a very odd bunch.


Gravis, I have met a lot of VERY whacky religious people and I could tell you some stories. Look at dummies like Troll@aol and others here who have called me a satanist and devil worshipper. Many people have a "you're either with us or against us" attitude and by "against us" they're referring to the devil. Some people believe that it's the devil that created atheism and that Dawkins and Hitchens are satans henchmen. You probably only hang around with semi-normal christians, but I have to hang around with both semi-normal and fully retarded ones. Try having a normal conversation with some douchebag speaking in tongues or a pastor that thinks he's a rock star.

As I've mentioned here before, I hang around a lot of christians (many priests and pastors as well) of all denominations. In fact, I spend almost everyday with them. Most don't know about my position on religion because I never talk about it, but some do and don't care. A few of them deciphered from some of my songs that I had my doubts, but I also wrote a few gospel songs that a few churches use in their song list all the time. Yeah, I know what you're thinking, "Numbers writes gospel songs?". Yes, I don't need to believe in all the gobbeldeegoop to write christian songs. In fact, they are the easiest songs in the world to write. Just write about thank you god for not killing us or striking us with some horrible desease, we worship you and praise you, blah blah blah.

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> Yeah, I know what you're thinking, "Numbers writes
> gospel songs?". Yes, I don't need to believe in
> all the gobbeldeegoop to write christian songs.

are you a church organist too? if so, bad news, you may be a character from Dawn of the Dead and it doesnt end well for you. :P

you can do what you want but it kinda seems like you are a vegan that designs machines for slaughter houses.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

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> you can do what you want but it kinda seems like
> you are a vegan that designs machines for
> slaughter houses.




+1

Who the hell claims to be a staunch atheist yet takes time to write songs that worship God?

Blessed are the murderous.

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> > you can do what you want but it kinda seems
> like
> > you are a vegan that designs machines for
> > slaughter houses.
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> +1
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> Who the hell claims to be a staunch atheist yet
> takes time to write songs that worship God?


don't piss him off he knows jew-jitsu
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> Who the hell claims to be a staunch atheist yet
> takes time to write songs that worship God?


The gospel songs I wrote were part of a deal I made with a person in a church choir. I wanted to borrow a nice Korg keyboard to use for recording my own songs and the person told me I could have it for 3 weeks if I wrote him 3 gospel songs. At first, I wasn't going to do it, but then I went home and listened to some gospel music and realized pretty quickly how simple they were, so I took the deal.

I did 2 versions of one song (a contemporary rock version and a black baptist version) and I did a pretty weird song about a window. I recorded a demo of each and much to my surprise, they loved it. In fact, one of the songs got stolen by a popular nationwide band and caused quite a hoohah. I didn't give a shit what they did with the songs or who stole what, I just needed the keyboard.

Numbers Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> > Who the hell claims to be a staunch atheist yet
> > takes time to write songs that worship God?
>
>
> The gospel songs I wrote were part of a deal I
> made with a person in a church choir. I wanted to
> borrow a nice Korg keyboard to use for recording
> my own songs and the person told me I could have
> it for 3 weeks if I wrote him 3 gospel songs. At
> first, I wasn't going to do it, but then I went
> home and listened to some gospel music and
> realized pretty quickly how simple they were, so I
> took the deal.
>
> I did 2 versions of one song (a contemporary rock
> version and a black baptist version) and I did a
> pretty weird song about a window. I recorded a
> demo of each and much to my surprise, they loved
> it. In fact, one of the songs got stolen by a
> popular nationwide band and caused quite a hoohah.
> I didn't give a shit what they did with the songs
> or who stole what, I just needed the keyboard.


You are a very nice atheist person numbers if it would have been me I would flipped the shit go down knocking on their church door and be like where is my money man!? Sue the hell out of them!

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> are you a church organist too? if so, bad news,
> you may be a character from Dawn of the Dead and
> it doesnt end well for you. :P


No, I'm not a church organist, lol, and thank goodness for that. Most of them are far bigger assholes than I am.
As far as zombies go, the whole religion is centered around one ;)


> you can do what you want but it kinda seems like
> you are a vegan that designs machines for
> slaughter houses.


That's the unfortunate truth for me and many others including lots of priests and pastors. Changing that is not as easy as you might think.

fngbngr Wrote:
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> You are a very nice atheist person numbers if it
> would have been me I would flipped the shit go
> down knocking on their church door and be like
> where is my money man!? Sue the hell out of them!


People have raped my songs before. When I was in a band, a few people asked to use them and some didn't. None of us in the band gave a shit because we didn't think they would ever make good on them (which they didn't).

I recorded a radio commercial many years ago that played everyday on WJFK and never made a penny from it. However, it worked well for the store and the owner asked me to do another one, but I bagged it.

The songs I do today are just for my friends and family and I never promote or try to sell them. I do it for the fun of it and give my CDs for free to whoever wants them. They're just songs and if someone really wants to steal them, have at it. I hope they do them better than me.