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House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Say it ain't so!
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Date: November 07, 2021 08:21PM
Remember, only people making more that $400,000 a year vape.
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House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
Tax would target poor Americans and boost dangerous black market, experts say
Patrick Hauf November 6, 2021 2:30 pm
House Democrats on Wednesday added a tax on vapes to their $1.85 trillion Build Back Better Act, which experts say would target poor Americans and boost a dangerous black market.
The plan would tax vape products at a rate of $50.33 for every 1,810 milligrams of nicotine they contain. If passed, the tax would make vapes more expensive than cigarettes, which are taxed on a per-product basis. The tax would disproportionately hurt poor Americans, who are more likely to use vape products. President Joe Biden has pledged to not tax anyone who makes less than $400,000.
House Democrats had scrapped an earlier plan to tax all tobacco products in order to pay for Biden's trillion dollar spending bill. Tim Andrews, director of consumer issues at Americans for Tax Reform, said Democrats reintroduced a nicotine tax to pay for their proposed State and Local Tax reduction, a $500 billion tax cut for the wealthy.
"This is literally a case of reverse Robin Hood," Andrews told the Washington Free Beacon. "This is taking from the poor to give to the rich."
Andrews emphasized that taxing vape products would push nicotine users toward more dangerous tobacco products. Taxing vapor products at the same level as other tobacco products could deter more than 2.75 million smokers nationally from quitting, according to a 2019 study from the National Bureau of Economic Research.
"This is completely immoral," Andrews told the Free Beacon. "It will lead to more people smoking—it will lead to more people dying."
A tax on vapor products could also boost an already thriving black market, according to Richard Marianos, a former assistant director of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Marianos said federal and state law enforcement have seized millions of unregulated vape products in recent years, which target minors with fruity flavors. These products, he said, are most often produced by international organized crime groups and sold by local street gangs in the states—forcing police to waste resources that should be going toward stopping rising homicide rates.
"This is the last thing they need when they’re trying to build strong community relationships," Marianos told the Free Beacon. "Now they’re going to have to become the vaping police?"
Amanda Wheeler, the owner of Jvapes and president of the American Vapor Manufacturers Association, said corporate vapor product suppliers may be able to survive the tax plan, but small businesses would be wrecked.
"We’ll be totally put out of business by this," Wheeler told the Free Beacon. "It's a draconian tax."
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/house-democrats-tuck-vape-tax-into-1-85-trillion-spending-bill/
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House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
Tax would target poor Americans and boost dangerous black market, experts say
Patrick Hauf November 6, 2021 2:30 pm
House Democrats on Wednesday added a tax on vapes to their $1.85 trillion Build Back Better Act, which experts say would target poor Americans and boost a dangerous black market.
The plan would tax vape products at a rate of $50.33 for every 1,810 milligrams of nicotine they contain. If passed, the tax would make vapes more expensive than cigarettes, which are taxed on a per-product basis. The tax would disproportionately hurt poor Americans, who are more likely to use vape products. President Joe Biden has pledged to not tax anyone who makes less than $400,000.
House Democrats had scrapped an earlier plan to tax all tobacco products in order to pay for Biden's trillion dollar spending bill. Tim Andrews, director of consumer issues at Americans for Tax Reform, said Democrats reintroduced a nicotine tax to pay for their proposed State and Local Tax reduction, a $500 billion tax cut for the wealthy.
"This is literally a case of reverse Robin Hood," Andrews told the Washington Free Beacon. "This is taking from the poor to give to the rich."
Andrews emphasized that taxing vape products would push nicotine users toward more dangerous tobacco products. Taxing vapor products at the same level as other tobacco products could deter more than 2.75 million smokers nationally from quitting, according to a 2019 study from the National Bureau of Economic Research.
"This is completely immoral," Andrews told the Free Beacon. "It will lead to more people smoking—it will lead to more people dying."
A tax on vapor products could also boost an already thriving black market, according to Richard Marianos, a former assistant director of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Marianos said federal and state law enforcement have seized millions of unregulated vape products in recent years, which target minors with fruity flavors. These products, he said, are most often produced by international organized crime groups and sold by local street gangs in the states—forcing police to waste resources that should be going toward stopping rising homicide rates.
"This is the last thing they need when they’re trying to build strong community relationships," Marianos told the Free Beacon. "Now they’re going to have to become the vaping police?"
Amanda Wheeler, the owner of Jvapes and president of the American Vapor Manufacturers Association, said corporate vapor product suppliers may be able to survive the tax plan, but small businesses would be wrecked.
"We’ll be totally put out of business by this," Wheeler told the Free Beacon. "It's a draconian tax."
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/house-democrats-tuck-vape-tax-into-1-85-trillion-spending-bill/
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Too long didn’t read
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Date: November 07, 2021 09:21PM
Fuck Joe Biden
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Biden shit's himself @ Vatican
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Date: November 07, 2021 10:06PM
Biden has already enacted a future ban on Menthol cigarettes - Menthol cigarettes are a negro favorite. Biden is like: Even if the niggers strongly disagree sometimes you just have to go ahead and do what's in their best interest!
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Explain that
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Date: November 07, 2021 10:11PM
Say it ain't so! Wrote:
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> Remember, only people making more that $400,000 a
> year vape.
>
> - - - - -
>
>
> House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion
> Spending Bill
>
> Tax would target poor Americans and boost
> dangerous black market, experts say
>
> Patrick Hauf November 6, 2021 2:30 pm
>
>
>
> House Democrats on Wednesday added a tax on vapes
> to their $1.85 trillion Build Back Better Act,
> which experts say would target poor Americans and
> boost a dangerous black market.
>
> The plan would tax vape products at a rate of
> $50.33 for every 1,810 milligrams of nicotine they
> contain. If passed, the tax would make vapes more
> expensive than cigarettes, which are taxed on a
> per-product basis. The tax would
> disproportionately hurt poor Americans, who are
> more likely to use vape products. President Joe
> Biden has pledged to not tax anyone who makes less
> than $400,000.
>
> House Democrats had scrapped an earlier plan to
> tax all tobacco products in order to pay for
> Biden's trillion dollar spending bill. Tim
> Andrews, director of consumer issues at Americans
> for Tax Reform, said Democrats reintroduced a
> nicotine tax to pay for their proposed State and
> Local Tax reduction, a $500 billion tax cut for
> the wealthy.
>
> "This is literally a case of reverse Robin Hood,"
> Andrews told the Washington Free Beacon. "This is
> taking from the poor to give to the rich."
>
> Andrews emphasized that taxing vape products would
> push nicotine users toward more dangerous tobacco
> products. Taxing vapor products at the same level
> as other tobacco products could deter more than
> 2.75 million smokers nationally from quitting,
> according to a 2019 study from the National Bureau
> of Economic Research.
>
> "This is completely immoral," Andrews told the
> Free Beacon. "It will lead to more people
> smoking—it will lead to more people dying."
>
> A tax on vapor products could also boost an
> already thriving black market, according to
> Richard Marianos, a former assistant director of
> the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
> Explosives. Marianos said federal and state law
> enforcement have seized millions of unregulated
> vape products in recent years, which target minors
> with fruity flavors. These products, he said, are
> most often produced by international organized
> crime groups and sold by local street gangs in the
> states—forcing police to waste resources that
> should be going toward stopping rising homicide
> rates.
>
> "This is the last thing they need when they’re
> trying to build strong community relationships,"
> Marianos told the Free Beacon. "Now they’re
> going to have to become the vaping police?"
>
> Amanda Wheeler, the owner of Jvapes and president
> of the American Vapor Manufacturers Association,
> said corporate vapor product suppliers may be able
> to survive the tax plan, but small businesses
> would be wrecked.
>
> "We’ll be totally put out of business by this,"
> Wheeler told the Free Beacon. "It's a draconian
> tax."
>
> https://freebeacon.com/democrats/house-democrats-t
> uck-vape-tax-into-1-85-trillion-spending-bill/
How does taxing nicotine thus making it more expensive, deter people from quitting using it?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Remember, only people making more that $400,000 a
> year vape.
>
> - - - - -
>
>
> House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion
> Spending Bill
>
> Tax would target poor Americans and boost
> dangerous black market, experts say
>
> Patrick Hauf November 6, 2021 2:30 pm
>
>
>
> House Democrats on Wednesday added a tax on vapes
> to their $1.85 trillion Build Back Better Act,
> which experts say would target poor Americans and
> boost a dangerous black market.
>
> The plan would tax vape products at a rate of
> $50.33 for every 1,810 milligrams of nicotine they
> contain. If passed, the tax would make vapes more
> expensive than cigarettes, which are taxed on a
> per-product basis. The tax would
> disproportionately hurt poor Americans, who are
> more likely to use vape products. President Joe
> Biden has pledged to not tax anyone who makes less
> than $400,000.
>
> House Democrats had scrapped an earlier plan to
> tax all tobacco products in order to pay for
> Biden's trillion dollar spending bill. Tim
> Andrews, director of consumer issues at Americans
> for Tax Reform, said Democrats reintroduced a
> nicotine tax to pay for their proposed State and
> Local Tax reduction, a $500 billion tax cut for
> the wealthy.
>
> "This is literally a case of reverse Robin Hood,"
> Andrews told the Washington Free Beacon. "This is
> taking from the poor to give to the rich."
>
> Andrews emphasized that taxing vape products would
> push nicotine users toward more dangerous tobacco
> products. Taxing vapor products at the same level
> as other tobacco products could deter more than
> 2.75 million smokers nationally from quitting,
> according to a 2019 study from the National Bureau
> of Economic Research.
>
> "This is completely immoral," Andrews told the
> Free Beacon. "It will lead to more people
> smoking—it will lead to more people dying."
>
> A tax on vapor products could also boost an
> already thriving black market, according to
> Richard Marianos, a former assistant director of
> the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and
> Explosives. Marianos said federal and state law
> enforcement have seized millions of unregulated
> vape products in recent years, which target minors
> with fruity flavors. These products, he said, are
> most often produced by international organized
> crime groups and sold by local street gangs in the
> states—forcing police to waste resources that
> should be going toward stopping rising homicide
> rates.
>
> "This is the last thing they need when they’re
> trying to build strong community relationships,"
> Marianos told the Free Beacon. "Now they’re
> going to have to become the vaping police?"
>
> Amanda Wheeler, the owner of Jvapes and president
> of the American Vapor Manufacturers Association,
> said corporate vapor product suppliers may be able
> to survive the tax plan, but small businesses
> would be wrecked.
>
> "We’ll be totally put out of business by this,"
> Wheeler told the Free Beacon. "It's a draconian
> tax."
>
> https://freebeacon.com/democrats/house-democrats-t
> uck-vape-tax-into-1-85-trillion-spending-bill/
How does taxing nicotine thus making it more expensive, deter people from quitting using it?
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
Posted by:
Malcom Xtra Black
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Date: November 07, 2021 10:14PM
Biden shit's himself @ Vatican Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Biden has already enacted a future ban on Menthol
> cigarettes - Menthol cigarettes are a negro
> favorite. Biden is like: Even if the niggers
> strongly disagree sometimes you just have to go
> ahead and do what's in their best interest!
Yep, Biden knows what's good for niggers!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Biden has already enacted a future ban on Menthol
> cigarettes - Menthol cigarettes are a negro
> favorite. Biden is like: Even if the niggers
> strongly disagree sometimes you just have to go
> ahead and do what's in their best interest!
Yep, Biden knows what's good for niggers!
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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I'm with Joementia on that
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Date: November 07, 2021 10:27PM
Tax the hell out of nicotine
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Ngug
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Date: November 07, 2021 10:32PM
I'm with Joementia on that Wrote:
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> Tax the hell out of nicotine
Same.
He should also tax the shit out of soda and fast food. Sick and tired of seeing fat bodies all around. Big part of the reason our healthcare system is fucked is because of fat asses who don’t want to take responsibility for their own health.
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> Tax the hell out of nicotine
Same.
He should also tax the shit out of soda and fast food. Sick and tired of seeing fat bodies all around. Big part of the reason our healthcare system is fucked is because of fat asses who don’t want to take responsibility for their own health.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Said no one over age 14 ever
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Date: November 07, 2021 11:25PM
I'm sure vaping is cool.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Where's The High Salt Tax
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Date: November 07, 2021 11:58PM
Anything over 250 mg per serving should be taxed to death , but a far better deal is for Democrats to learn to live and let live with what Americans want to do with their bodies Women have the right to choose so do the people
It shows what hypocrites the Democrats are as illegals make everyone's medical bills higher as they walk out on paying them .
Don't try! No rewards for people coming into the US illegally Democrats , no free medical care for illegals as Americans get raped by the costs of insurance now your worried about your votes but there's no USA left for anyone to vote in the way your going . The USA needs tort reform on the medical lawsuits lottery badly that's raising the hell out of costs also ! There was none in Obama care ! As the liability law lobby spends far more on Democrat donations then the NRA even takes in
It shows what hypocrites the Democrats are as illegals make everyone's medical bills higher as they walk out on paying them .
Don't try! No rewards for people coming into the US illegally Democrats , no free medical care for illegals as Americans get raped by the costs of insurance now your worried about your votes but there's no USA left for anyone to vote in the way your going . The USA needs tort reform on the medical lawsuits lottery badly that's raising the hell out of costs also ! There was none in Obama care ! As the liability law lobby spends far more on Democrat donations then the NRA even takes in
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Tax them
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Date: November 08, 2021 12:22AM
I mean, who buys that crap? Bunch of soy boys.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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cwkjd
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Date: November 08, 2021 07:28AM
There can’t be much revenue there.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Herbert Kornfeld
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Date: November 08, 2021 07:30AM
All you poor people voted for Joe thinking he was going to help you. LMAO. Wait til you find out all the other shit that's in the bill. That "400K" line was a complete pile of shit but you libtards bought it. You are going to be much more poor when all this shit cranks into full implementation.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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Liquidat1on
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Date: March 09, 2022 03:51AM
Pretty good. This kind of vape reminded me of the 2017 vibe when my friends and I would sit in my room, and it would be filled with aromatic smoke. It seems that IQos has superseded the vape lately, and not many people use it now, but I like it, so I haven't given up smoking a vape. I like to add CBD-type oils to my vape - it's relaxing. There are very few good vapes left now, but London Vape Co started with great quality, and they are still the leader in the market.
Re: House Democrats Tuck Vape Tax Into $1.85 Trillion Spending Bill
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My Thyroid Disagrees
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Date: March 09, 2022 02:15PM
Ngug Wrote:
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> I'm with Joementia on that Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tax the hell out of nicotine
>
>
> Same.
>
> He should also tax the shit out of soda and fast
> food. Sick and tired of seeing fat bodies all
> around. Big part of the reason our healthcare
> system is fucked is because of fat asses who
> don’t want to take responsibility for their own
> health.
I'm fat because of health reasons. Now, suck mah deck!
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> I'm with Joementia on that Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tax the hell out of nicotine
>
>
> Same.
>
> He should also tax the shit out of soda and fast
> food. Sick and tired of seeing fat bodies all
> around. Big part of the reason our healthcare
> system is fucked is because of fat asses who
> don’t want to take responsibility for their own
> health.
I'm fat because of health reasons. Now, suck mah deck!
