* Ford released videos that USA's salt flats had "plenty of lithium for USA's EV endeavors".

> We find out later all EV's batteries are MADE IN CHINA.

* Ford claimed same video they patented the only viable Li Batt tech - thin film batteries. IT'S ACTUALLY JAPAN who specialized in making Electrolytic capacitors, and probably the British who first industrialzed the CAPISTAN used for that hundreds of years ago.

> It's untrue china doesn't make them or that Ford has a patent

. China has probably 50 EV makers who can produce at volume. Maybe 25 of them are Auto. USA has 3 - and all the parts are from CHINA.

* FORD has "huge ventures" to own various brand/models Chinese EV. They are NOT "developing EV" they are buying EV brands.

> There's a throat cutting difference. The jobs are in China, culturally conceptually they are a chinese creation, and Ford's claim of ownership is debt on paper only - which chinese do not respect. Ford's ownership only reduces Ford's losses - and doesn't help USA at all.

> HOWEVER - at the same time of leveraging losses - they invest in chinese progress to beat them the next time

the below is about rising car prices. i make no motion that diesel should be EV

*** NEW FORD SMALL TRUCK raptor: $111,000 ***

Large trucks - $60,000 - $80,000 (and higher diesel utility)
Regular nice truck 2 door: $50,000
Regular truck 2 door: $38,000
Ambulance: $500,000+
Fire: $1,000,000+

(source: craigs list ad)

In the late 1990's a friend complained to me "OMG to stay in business I need a truck they are $40,000 and up now instead of $20,000"

little red riding hood

Ford has been seeking DEMOCRAT Grants and Federal contracts (fire ambulance military) as a way to hide from being a private business which outsourced to china - AND AS A WAY TO ALLOT CHINA TO MAKE USA'S FIRE, AMBULANCE

REAGAN: a few USA car makers (1 bailed out during Carter), many parts makers in USA

CLINTON: two car makers - one of which a bailed out leech, both outsourcing as fast as they can shutting down USA parts makers

OBAMA: 0 real USA car makers. even Diesel truck motors now outsourced. CEOs infuse china with "EV enabler" cash - where USA taxpayers are left holding the $$$ bill AND with insanely expensive cars

(china as low as $5,000 new EV but usa as low as $20,000 non-EV, not that i'm saying EV is better - EV is more in usa not less)

Even FORD has become a corrupt "chinese imports marked-up market" (import a product, provide english labels, quadruple price). Like Nike shoes.

an Economics book will educate that leveraging losses can be done by di-vesting in one's competitor

* books ASSUMES your not dealing with a corrupt dictatorship. if Ford VW dumps money into China i GUARANTEE YOU that the benefits go into chinese models AND THE CHINESE MODELS WILL WIN, AND SELL

> you cannot divest into the sister company inside a dictatorship. the dictatorship models will always steal your investment and also insure only their models SELL inside and abroad

Anyway chinese consumers don't like anything foreign they are biggots and hate imports - unlike the USA they actually understand the situation or are THREATENED to remain so.

how do you deal with a corrupt dealership? armed and with a 10-foot pole. obviously

* books assumes your not providing loans using federal money for your competitor to beat your FURTHER - which isn't the case here. in the left door out the right door where the other chinese factory is

> it is THEORETICAL, it means if you are on top of things it can be done. it does NOT mean an idiot should attempt it

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you can say "well Ford still assembles vehicles here and in other countries", so does GM

THE OLD ADAGE IS - BOYS WOULD ASSEMBLE THEIR OWN CARS IF AUTO MAKERS DIDN'T CHARGE SO MUCH FOR PARTS

but so does TATA of India - but TATA makes some of it's own parts

less and less are even assembled in USA. ie: dash boards come as a whole integrated part from china. they are not designed and assembled in usa from foreign parts. and there's more and more "block installs"

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IDIOT DEMOCRAT. Tesla already transfered all IP assets to China - those it didn't buy FROM china.

TESLA is building in China - not USA.

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GM and Voltzwagon are also over their head in CHINESE DEALS

EU has EV "steering committees" - loads of government worker family members on the dole

they each own "sub models" of chinese models that are already made (the chinese buy from the chinese auto makers - they don't buy the sub-models that foreigners have their dirty hands in)

* never EVER let a CEO (a crooked employee who backstabbed his way out of doing regular work) of a great company control money (GOLDEN PARACHUTES)

* never EVER let a committee drive a car - it's a moving violation

* never EVER let someone who DOESN'T OWN A CAR drive it, unless they are under mortal repercussion if they fail, or if INSURANCE HAS BEEN PAID for a non-owner driving (insurers had that, and charge a good deal extra)

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Re: Exactly when Steve Bannon's War Room podcast covered Chinese industrial attack on USA - is when Democrats decided he should "be off the air and in DC testifying". DROP DEAD DEMOCRATS

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/3753509/3753511.html#msg-3753511

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geared to fuck over a consumer who is un-employed and no longer has money to be ripped off

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Is this thread Retard Central?

Unions are why NOTHING is made in the US any longer. Yet you retards still want to burn coal. When is it going to turn? When will it become more economical to manufacture here at home than source from China? You people are missing the point.

34yy4 / 34t434 if you two aren't the same person then each of you can have a go at the cock.

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