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Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: drop dead democrats ()
Date: September 23, 2021 09:43AM

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USA has made battery chargers for A LONG LONG TIME. Since Ford put batteries cars.

But recently USA has no funding, no market, to do it

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more chinese auto or Li charger models than you can count

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CHINA - BY BIDEN FUNNELING USA MONEY - HAS had access to

* education

* materials - which in USA cost MORE THAN THE FINAL PRODUCT DELIVERED AND ON THE SHELF - IN CHINA COST NOTHING

* manufacturing

They have "infinite spending ability" and zero liability on patents, and funding through Biden, Obama, Clinton.

the chinese crap costs more and last just one year a few years at most: they break, catch on fire, etc. i've had one i repaired (it lasted 2 yr before breaking) (chinese tried to make that impossible) but is now beyond repair - now has melted electronics not just broken leads and switches

THE MARKUP - these chargers cost more than the batteries you are "trying to preserve" but they don't last long either. so ... "what's the deal ??"

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now, this is rusty - but IT STILL WORKS 40 years later.


Make America Great Again



Stupid millenials are told "of course it doesn't work it's a few years old - it's depreciated - buy more chinese stuff"

the TRUTH OF ELECTRONICS IS - that older electronics lasted several decades and costed LESS than today's chinese crap which lasts a few years

the chinese DESIGN FAILURE into their products. it forces reliance on china to build more. it enriches the "free raw materials industry" (the USA waste dumps that sells recyclables to india and china)

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 35u45uu ()
Date: September 23, 2021 09:47AM

In 1903, Clyde J. Coleman invented and patented the first electric starter in America U.S. Patent 0,745,157

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 7o7677o ()
Date: September 23, 2021 09:48AM

One of the innovations on the first Dodge car, the Model 30-35 at its introduction in 1914 was an electric starter

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 45uu5u ()
Date: September 23, 2021 09:59AM

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lasted 1-2 years. the cabling was so cheap it cracked split open in the 1st winter. had to be stripped soldered - but there was barely any copper to work with, was built "not to strip", and thin strands.

it's switch continually "falls" from 12V to 6V and damages batteries it is "supposedly saving". it did this from year 1. i though maybe someone had bumped the unit being nosy. after years there is no doubt: it was, is, a designed attack by chinese to destroy batteries. the switch seems to click but always slides down to 6V after ... some days.

presently - it gets stuck - it heats like it's charging hard when it's not charging - it's a fire hazard

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 4u45u5u ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:00AM

45uu5u Wrote:
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> lasted 1-2 years. the cabling was so cheap it
> cracked split open in the 1st winter. had to be
> stripped soldered - but there was barely any
> copper to work with, was built "not to strip", and
> thin strands.
>
> it's switch continually "falls" from 12V to 6V and
> damages batteries it is "supposedly
> saving"
. it did this from year 1. i though
> maybe someone had bumped the unit being nosy.
> after years there is no doubt: it was, is, a
> designed attack by chinese to destroy batteries.
> the switch seems to click but always slides down
> to 6V after ... some days.
>
> presently - it gets stuck - it heats like it's
> charging hard when it's not charging - it's a fire
> hazard

THESE UNITS ARE STILL THE ONLY UNITS YOU'LL FIND IN MOST STORES

THEY ARE FINANCIAL ATTACKS ON USA

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 565767o ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:02AM

little red riding hood

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 667op7o ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:15AM

to be semi-fair ...

in the 1980's when most things were made in USA, one thing that 1/2 the time wasn't was electronics

while most home chargers were made in usa ...

Taiwan ("NOT china") made things like impact printers for PC, some good (and terrible) PC keyboards AND ... some highest quality battery chargers. They were under / followed usa patents back then, though.

back then USA companies were outsourcing "small electronics" as "a worthless industry of miniturizing higher quality components". truth be known they were actually traitors using "small size is ching chong for small asian fingers" as a cover up for treason.

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 56i6i ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:18AM

THE CLINTON ERA used the skape goat: "small electronics you can't repair - these are made by asians with small hands" and was "a joke"

asian-chinese-electronics-factory-worker

but it was a damaging scape goat of people doing treason making excuses

the clinton era ALSO RELEASED FALSE ADVERTISING (hidden as news stories) that "AMERICA WAS ABUSING ASIA" BY creating sweat shops. IT WAS ALL A FUCKING LIE.

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 6u56ii6 ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:25AM

here's a taiwan unit from the 1980's

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when you flip a switch on this auto/hobby charger it didn't "slide from 12V to 6V while you were sleeping". It went THUNK! and stays where it was put indefinitely.

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 56u656u ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:27AM

the wires - not cheap and could be stripped and soldered. didn't split in the winter. prolly not a fire hazard - but since none of them have ever stopped working who can say ?

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 56i566i ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:50AM

another thing you see: STRONG ARM SALES

asian "batteries.com" web site, pretending to be a usa website, saying your charger MUST match the kind of battery your charging

THE OLD CHARGERS CAN CHARGE ANY KIND OF BATTERY (nicad, lithium, lead) and said so on the box. you had to read directions.

* the NEW CHINESE ONES are lying to you

* they are twisting your arm to buy MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE "multi-models", and intently making lower models "stupidly" so that they would have a flaw of having no "sensing or adjustment" - pushing you to $100 models that BREAK IN A FEW YEARS in a freezing garage, that have "built in maintenance and multi-modes"

technology and parts wise, the difference is is very minor. but also you DONT NEED THEM. and they are all acting like "throw away your old charger it will damage your battery"

ALL ABOUT PUSHING YOU BUY SOMETHING much more than you need that you are going to find: wasn't worth the price since it broke and had other flaws

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BUT WHAT ELSE IS MISSING

* low cost parts available in usa - GONE

* plans for chargers. they've been deleted and removed from the internet (websites, forums, etc) by asians and those bribed by asians

* why is simple - democrats want you to have ONE OPTION: be strong armed into buying a chinese product designed to fuck you financially

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: STOP THE STEAL ()
Date: September 23, 2021 10:54AM

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BUT WHAT ELSE IS MISSING

MAKE AMAERICA GREAT AGAIN

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Lee Gong ()
Date: September 26, 2021 11:14AM

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Schumacher Electric

This is a chinese made unit is all you'll find in local stores. IT'S A BITCH. which says Schumacher inside but isn't affiliated with any american whatsoever (it's a lie, and it's been designed by chinese to fail).

your alternative is a hugely over-price chinese unit "advanced model" which not only has the problems below probably, due to complexity of them, have far worse un-repairable problems

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* there are many too costly asian components - including 3 processors - all seemingly un-necessary to "do the job" it does. analysis: you have to pay for it and it's all the store has in stock

but we'll see this is A DESIGNED TO FAIL chinese unit. you have to pay for the gear, but the gear is DESIGNED TO FAIL

* fire hazard - the charger section is "normally charging" ... there's a coil which must be energized so that it is NOT charging. any failure of components leads to ALWAYS charging where when pick up the box it's so hot inside that the outside plastic box is warm enough to warn you something is wrong with it - even though it's not been charging anything. it has to detect a need not to charge then energize a coil to STOP charging. this also is abusive to the coil and uses power - when NOT charging energy is required in both circuit sections.

* fire hazard - not failsafe design. any failure leads to "always charging" whether connected to NO BATTERY, a charged battery, or bad battery (which is very unsafe)

* fire hazard - runs hot enough to brown-bake board it's on yet maybe not to desolder itself

* despite all the components, it always powers two circuits whether or not connected to a battery

* the 12V switch falls to 6V about 1x a month. it damages the battery un-attended by forcing it down to 6V and keeping it there until you walk by and notice your "tended" needs tending itself.

* the wires ends are unsafe. they aren't far enough apart to connect to a car battery. when you pull apart (in the winter) even using a too for insuring that "goes right", the plastic splits in the cold weather.

* if unplugged the battery backfeeds into the unit, causing a drain on the battery if your home's power is out

* when a 470uF 25V capacitor bulges on the charging circuit, the unit runs unusually hot whether not charging or connected to already charged battery. the cap failure cause an "always on" situation. as i said before - any component failure MUST lead to 0 charge 0 heat. why is because we all know charging a car batter is A DANGEROUS JOB (education on why that is, is omitted)


* (still testing, apparently true) when that CAP is replaced - the unit appears to work but no longer "monitors" the battery ... indicating one of the 3 chinese chips (which are NOT replaceable, education omitted on why) are blown out due to the failure, and the "tender" has become a rudimentary small cheap charger, not a tender. it no longer blinks to orange to check for trickle charging


it's supposed to TEND the battery un-attended safely: not destroy your battery and possibly burn your house down.


destroy one battery you've killed off more than you paid for the charger, now need both a battery, charger, and perhaps a cab ride

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Lee Gong ()
Date: September 26, 2021 11:26AM


* The failed capacitor is electrolytic which presents a danger. It's the kind that is SURE to fail after some years or earlier or due to any kind of mishap. Designed to fail.


it was bulging - there was "a mishap" due to poor design. the use of this capacitor was in sensing whether or not the attached battery is taking a charge (so - using an electrolytic was: stupid or malicious, designed to fail)

electrolytic are used in power supplies (these are different but guaranteed to fail in, say, 7-10 years, a cheapo compromise in cheap electronics). it is true that high pass-through capacitors are more expensive if not electrolytic, it's NOT true there aren't cost effective better alternatives.

their main use is (WAS!) in AUDIO, because it used to be true that these "guaranteed to fail" capacitors were the only choice for sound quality

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Knit Picker ()
Date: September 26, 2021 11:40AM

* batteries.com or what (the "education" site for batteries), and other "info pages" posing as English pages that are from china. http://batteryuniversity.com/

* they BULLY the reader saying if your not using "a chinese tending device" your taking safety risks and damaging your battery

THE ABOVE IS WHAT IS TRUE:

. IT IS DESIGNED TO FAIL

. IT ISN'T SAFE - it could cause a fire

. IT CAN EASILY DAMAGE BATTERIES more than it aids them .... (as opposed to sitting on the charging like a hen on an egg to insure it goes well and removing the charger whatever non-tending charger is used)

so, china fake news bullies

why not let me post some comments on your batteries

http://batteryuniversity.com/

why not let some free speech comments on your "information". afraid of the truth?

or just a chinese company spreading lies?

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: China is fucked up too ()
Date: September 26, 2021 12:09PM

China has their own crises going that are getting worse. The rise of China has been completely dependent on capitalism and has opened the people of China to different cultures and freedoms that are threats to the power of the communist party. Communist leaders are always paranoid and they should be. These are evil, power-hungry people who oppress and abuse the masses and fully deserve to face justice. They can't allow freedom to get out of control. So they crack down on the very people driving the growth and success of their economy. Keep in mind, communists are fucking retarded. We have retarded communists wrecking our country and that's a huge problem. But China is in the late stages of communist rot and the CCP is rotten to the core at every level. We're getting there, but they are decades ahead of us.

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Lee Gong ()
Date: September 26, 2021 07:24PM

* the unit has 3 chips i think 1 is a "battery maintenance chip" IEEE and also damaged - or lines to it are

THE UPSHOT OF THIS IS: after testing the cap replacement - it's seen the unit charges Lithium to ~ 13.4V then stops, but never monitors

BUT IT ALSO ATTEMPTS TO CHARGE AUTO BATTERIES TO 13.4V - WHICH kills the expensive auto battery and is also dangerous

so what you have is the World's IEE engineers all agreeing on chinese production only (not in usa), the chinks dorking the technology altering it to ensure (like ubuntu) it's incompatible and undocumented in the final ends.

BUT THIS SO CALLED BATTERY MANTENANCE CHIP - has a failure mode of endangering people and killing assets. that's the opposite of purpose and of the law also

they then take huge paychecks and bully "the masses" with pomp - that all they did is IEEE required and so is their retirement fees

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and oh btw - crying communism while selling products designed to fail DOES NOT FLOAT WITH ME

YOU'LL FIND I'M TOTALLY NOT SUSCEPTIBLE TO BULLSHIT AND DEMOCRAT LIES

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Lee Gong ()
Date: September 26, 2021 07:27PM

what happens when you charge a LEAD ACID battery to 13.5V ?

* the lead pushes back, never finishes charging either

* the "charger" OVER-HEATS and becomes very warm to touch (a fire hazard?)

* the LEAD ACID releases hydrogen gas which is dangerous

* THE LEAD ACID PLATES can become damaged. they are designed to withhold 12V not 13V - they are "well known" to not be compatible (and be dangerous) when charged improperly to higher volts

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: Lee Gong ()
Date: September 26, 2021 07:41PM

* HERE'S ANOTHER DANGER FACTOR

the unit is clearly marked 12V and 6V exactly

no one using the unit SHOULD expect "global ieee collaboration chips outsourced to china" have been installed to cause the VOLTAGE to be 13 or 14 V and suspect danger with 12V batteries because the damn thing doesn't say that anywhere on the box. it says "12V fully automatic" _only_.

electrical labeling IS ACTUALLY U.L. REQUIRED in usa (Underwriters Laboratories - underwriting home fire insurance claims?)

It is not acceptable to be labeled as 12V if it's infact 14V "situationally".

Nor is it "ok" that fully automatic would mean "sit on it like a hen and feel it to make sure it's not damaging your car or home". It's a lie.

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Re: Biden: Make China greater than America
Posted by: 34t443 ()
Date: February 20, 2022 05:24PM

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