We could be in for a long summer of looting, rioting and violence that will make last summer look like nothing.

very likely why? The defense was terrible.

What do you base that on? From where I'm sitting, it looks like the murderous pig is definitely going to prison.

I applaud the defense for doing its best but there was just no way to get around Chauvin calmly suffocating Mr. Floyd. All the defense did was prove Mr. Floyd had problems in life not that he deserved to be suffocated. The forensic pathologist for the defense was terrible.

If by "mistrial" you mean "hung jury", it's a possibility, but I doubt it. Chauvin's "experts" did not do very well on cross, and the prosecution is now going to come back with rebuttals that will be the last evidence that the jury hears. People like the OP want an acquittal or mistrial, and they want the rioting that follows.

Looks like I got a little excited and ahead of myself. The witness referenced the testing the judge warned about. Cahill was SERIOUS about this issue. Threatened a mistrial if the new test results were even hinted at.

3JJJT Wrote:
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> If by "mistrial" you mean "hung jury", it's a
> possibility, but I doubt it. Chauvin's "experts"
> did not do very well on cross, and the prosecution
> is now going to come back with rebuttals that will
> be the last evidence that the jury hears. People
> like the OP want an acquittal or mistrial, and
> they want the rioting that follows.


I could give a shot about chauvin, I just want riots

He isn't testifying so that tells you all you need to know there. Anyone who knows they're truly innocent is going to defend themselves against a murder case. He knows his past with Floyd is going to be brought up and the beef they had at the club they worked at together. This was no black/white thing, it was payback that backfired.

He is pleading the fifth Wrote:
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> He isn't testifying so that tells you all you need
> to know there. Anyone who knows they're truly
> innocent is going to defend themselves against a
> murder case. He knows his past with Floyd is going
> to be brought up and the beef they had at the club
> they worked at together. This was no black/white
> thing, it was payback that backfired.


Chauvin would be a fool to expose himself to cross examination in this case. How would he explain continuing to use force to continue to restrain someone he just suffocated.

No cop should put up with more then 5 minutes of this childish behavior b4 putting a bullet in ur head

They don’t even deal with this in kindergarten

My 5 minute rule, 2024 I’ll be r Wrote:
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> No cop should put up with more then 5 minutes of
> this childish behavior b4 putting a bullet in ur
> head
>
> They don’t even deal with this in kindergarten

They put bullets in kids' heads for throwing tantrums in kindergarten? That's news to me. Of course, if that had happened to you, we'd all be better off.

When this process started most observers would have thought that a hung jury was as good as a win for the prosecution. The chances of empaneling a jury that didn't contain at least a few jurors willing to cut a police officer a break are slim under the best of circumstances. That the possibility of a mistrial is now being dangled by supporters of Chauvin as a win shows how much the ground has shifted.

EML Wrote:
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> When this process started most observers would
> have thought that a hung jury was as good as a win
> for the prosecution. The chances of empaneling a
> jury that didn't contain at least a few jurors
> willing to cut a police officer a break are slim
> under the best of circumstances. That the
> possibility of a mistrial is now being dangled by
> supporters of Chauvin as a win shows how much the
> ground has shifted.

Police are allowed to murder you. Unless they are totally stupid, in that case they get fired and maybe, maybe spend a couple years in jail. No one will be surprised if there is a hung jury and ultimately Chauvin gets off. No one.

This guy continued to use force on Floyd AFTER he was dead from suffocation. There is simply no way Chauvin didnt know he was killing Mr. Floyd.

This was a show trial in the Soviet and North Korean tradition. The prosecution had an unlimited budget and Chauvin had some Police Union defense fund.

George Floyd was human garbage. He died due to a myriad of reasons from 95% blockage in his arteries to hypertension to lethal amounts of fentanyl in his system to lethal amounts of meth to just being a piece of shit felony counterfeiter for not getting into the fucking squad car like he was told. But somehow it was all Chauvin’s fault for just doing his job being of a nog wrangler.


Fuck George Floyd!! Rot in Hell you piece of shirt!!

It just takes one white juror to stand for what’s right, not allow Chauvin to be railroaded and it’s a hung jury.

Nog Wrangling is a Tough Job Wrote:
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> This was a show trial in the Soviet and North
> Korean tradition. The prosecution had an
> unlimited budget and Chauvin had some Police Union
> defense fund.
>
> George Floyd was human garbage. He died due to a
> myriad of reasons from 95% blockage in his
> arteries to hypertension to lethal amounts of
> fentanyl in his system to lethal amounts of meth
> to just being a piece of shit felony counterfeiter
> for not getting into the fucking squad car like he
> was told. But somehow it was all Chauvin’s
> fault for just doing his job being of a nog
> wrangler.
>
>
> Fuck George Floyd!! Rot in Hell you piece of
> shirt!!
>
> It just takes one white juror to stand for
> what’s right, not allow Chauvin to be railroaded
> and it’s a hung jury.

I get stopped by the PO PO do what he asks and that’s it
Not niggahs

The judge repeatedly admonished the state for bullshit behavior. Today was just the latest as they tried to bring carbon monoxide level evidence after the fact by saying "the guy from the lab called me out of the blue with these results" that happen to rebut defense evidence.

Thankfully the judge isn't allowing this to be a complete shitshow. A mistrial would just get tried again. There should be at least a few on the jury who aren't scared to do the right thing and let this cop go. There was a huge amount of testimony and evidence that explained much of his actions - although he should have stood up once it was verified that Floyd had lost consciousness. CNN also did their part by cutting away whenever something started looking bad for the prosecution, which is crucial to them shaping opinions among their viewers and adding some shock value if the jury comes back hung. Shock value is important for ratings which are fueled by riots.

ya damn skippy Wrote:
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> The judge repeatedly admonished the state for
> bullshit behavior. Today was just the latest as
> they tried to bring carbon monoxide level evidence
> after the fact by saying "the guy from the lab
> called me out of the blue with these results" that
> happen to rebut defense evidence.
>
> Thankfully the judge isn't allowing this to be a
> complete shitshow. A mistrial would just get tried
> again. There should be at least a few on the jury
> who aren't scared to do the right thing and let
> this cop go. There was a huge amount of testimony
> and evidence that explained much of his actions -
> although he should have stood up once it was
> verified that Floyd had lost consciousness. CNN
> also did their part by cutting away whenever
> something started looking bad for the prosecution,
> which is crucial to them shaping opinions among
> their viewers and adding some shock value if the
> jury comes back hung. Shock value is important
> for ratings which are fueled by riots.


Those prosecutors have to cheat. Their careers are over if they lose. Remember Marcia Clark and that black guy prosecutor?? Well, neither does anybody else because their careers ended when OJ walked.

They created a lot of doubt by trying to hide the monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big time, which made an impression on the jury. He will get manslaughter conviction not murder, which is Justice. Punishment never should exceed the crime.

Prosecution blew it Wrote:
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> They created a lot of doubt by trying to hide the
> monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big time,
> which made an impression on the jury. He will get
> manslaughter conviction not murder, which is
> Justice. Punishment never should exceed the
> crime.


1. It was not a scolding.

2. The jury never heard what the judge did say about the CO test. They weren't in the courtroom.

3. You're an idiot.

F7UUT Wrote:
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> Prosecution blew it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They created a lot of doubt by trying to hide
> the
> > monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big time,
> > which made an impression on the jury. He will
> get
> > manslaughter conviction not murder, which is
> > Justice. Punishment never should exceed the
> > crime.
>
>
> 1. It was not a scolding.
>
> 2. The jury never heard what the judge did say
> about the CO test. They weren't in the
> courtroom.
>
> 3. You're an idiot.


they are watching it on CNN as we speak. Yea! Right! "I swear I will not talk about this trial or watch proceeding on the News" LOLO! They know dreamer. Which is a good thing for the Defense.

Not sure if you guys caught this, but it came out during defense cross examination.

Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho ex-girlfriend that was with him in the car is “Mama”.

So you had corrupt CNN saying all the female jurors will be sympathetic because he was calling out for his long-dead mother, when he was really asking for his crack Ho.

Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck this entire case and Black Lives Matter is.

trust me they hear it Wrote:
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> F7UUT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Prosecution blew it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They created a lot of doubt by trying to hide
> > the
> > > monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big time,
> > > which made an impression on the jury. He
> will
> > get
> > > manslaughter conviction not murder, which is
> > > Justice. Punishment never should exceed the
> > > crime.
> >
> >
> > 1. It was not a scolding.
> >
> > 2. The jury never heard what the judge did say
> > about the CO test. They weren't in the
> > courtroom.
> >
> > 3. You're an idiot.
>
>
> they are watching it on CNN as we speak. Yea!
> Right! "I swear I will not talk about this trial
> or watch proceeding on the News" LOLO! They know
> dreamer. Which is a good thing for the Defense.


The jurors are not back it the jury room watching the proceedings on CNN, you moron. Where do you get this shit? From the voices in your head?

HCY6P Wrote:
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> trust me they hear it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > F7UUT Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Prosecution blew it Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > They created a lot of doubt by trying to
> hide
> > > the
> > > > monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big
> time,
> > > > which made an impression on the jury. He
> > will
> > > get
> > > > manslaughter conviction not murder, which
> is
> > > > Justice. Punishment never should exceed
> the
> > > > crime.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. It was not a scolding.
> > >
> > > 2. The jury never heard what the judge did
> say
> > > about the CO test. They weren't in the
> > > courtroom.
> > >
> > > 3. You're an idiot.
> >
> >
> > they are watching it on CNN as we speak. Yea!
> > Right! "I swear I will not talk about this
> trial
> > or watch proceeding on the News" LOLO! They
> know
> > dreamer. Which is a good thing for the
> Defense.
>
>
> The jurors are not back it the jury room watching
> the proceedings on CNN, you moron. Where do you
> get this shit? From the voices in your head?


They are non-sequestered right now. They are going home for the weekend.

Nog Wrangling is a Tough Job Wrote:
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> This was a show trial in the Soviet and North
> Korean tradition. The prosecution had an
> unlimited budget and Chauvin had some Police Union
> defense fund.

That is rich. If Floyd had survived and gone to trial for the crime he was alleged to have committed, he almost certainly would have ended up being represented by an overworked public defender whose total compensation for representation would come to what Chauvin's attorneys are making for 2-3 hours work. Chauvin may not be getting an O.J.Simpson quality defense, but he is getting better representation than even a typical middle class criminal defendant paying out of his own pocket.

Your assertion that a mistrial is very, very, very likely is very, very, very untrue and makes you look very, very, very stupid. That murderous pig is going to prison.

Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
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> Not sure if you guys caught this, but it came out
> during defense cross examination.
>
> Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho ex-girlfriend
> that was with him in the car is “Mama”.
>
> So you had corrupt CNN saying all the female
> jurors will be sympathetic because he was calling
> out for his long-dead mother, when he was really
> asking for his crack Ho.
>
> Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck this
> entire case and Black Lives Matter is.

Only a trumptard would think that the jury will acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama" is his girlfriend and not his mother. That's how stupid they are.

ya damn skippy Wrote:
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> The judge repeatedly admonished the state for
> bullshit behavior. Today was just the latest as
> they tried to bring carbon monoxide level evidence
> after the fact by saying "the guy from the lab
> called me out of the blue with these results" that
> happen to rebut defense evidence.
>
> Thankfully the judge isn't allowing this to be a
> complete shitshow. A mistrial would just get tried
> again. There should be at least a few on the jury
> who aren't scared to do the right thing and let
> this cop go. There was a huge amount of testimony
> and evidence that explained much of his actions -
> although he should have stood up once it was
> verified that Floyd had lost consciousness. CNN
> also did their part by cutting away whenever
> something started looking bad for the prosecution,
> which is crucial to them shaping opinions among
> their viewers and adding some shock value if the
> jury comes back hung. Shock value is important
> for ratings which are fueled by riots.

CO information was in rebuttal - defense brought up CO by spuriously speculating Mr. Floyd's blood CO was 5-8 times the level the coroner actually measured in the autopsy.

This rebuttal was in fact very damaging to the bogus defense argument fronted by their forensic expert. CO was in no way a contributory factor in his death - his blood CO levels were in the normal range. If I were on the jury I would discount, with prejudice, everything the dope for the defense said.

J3HWN Wrote:
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> Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not sure if you guys caught this, but it came
> out
> > during defense cross examination.
> >
> > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> ex-girlfriend
> > that was with him in the car is “Mama”.
> >
> > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the female
> > jurors will be sympathetic because he was
> calling
> > out for his long-dead mother, when he was
> really
> > asking for his crack Ho.
> >
> > Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck this
> > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
>
> Only a trumptard would think that the jury will
> acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama" is his
> girlfriend and not his mother. That's how stupid
> they are.

No, but we think they will acquit because Floyd was a drugged out felon with a history of overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and fentanyl and 95% blockage in his arteries

You try Nog Wrangling-Not EZ Wrote:
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> J3HWN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Not sure if you guys caught this, but it came
> > out
> > > during defense cross examination.
> > >
> > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > ex-girlfriend
> > > that was with him in the car is “Mama”.
> > >
> > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the female
> > > jurors will be sympathetic because he was
> > calling
> > > out for his long-dead mother, when he was
> > really
> > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > >
> > > Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck
> this
> > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> >
> > Only a trumptard would think that the jury will
> > acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama" is
> his
> > girlfriend and not his mother. That's how
> stupid
> > they are.
>
> No, but we think they will acquit because Floyd
> was a drugged out felon with a history of
> overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and fentanyl
> and 95% blockage in his arteries


And all of those claims were addressed by the prosecution and refuted through their expert testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount of meth and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show any signs or symptoms of being overdosed with those drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or any heart problems.

You try Nog Wrangling-Not EZ Wrote:
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> J3HWN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Not sure if you guys caught this, but it came
> > out
> > > during defense cross examination.
> > >
> > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > ex-girlfriend
> > > that was with him in the car is “Mama”.
> > >
> > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the female
> > > jurors will be sympathetic because he was
> > calling
> > > out for his long-dead mother, when he was
> > really
> > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > >
> > > Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck
> this
> > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> >
> > Only a trumptard would think that the jury will
> > acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama" is
> his
> > girlfriend and not his mother. That's how
> stupid
> > they are.
>
> No, but we think they will acquit because Floyd
> was a drugged out felon with a history of
> overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and fentanyl
> and 95% blockage in his arteries


CNN omitted showing much that came out in trial. Floyd's previous criminal behavior, including multiple times when he had to be dragged out of a vehicle by cops. Also House Invasion convictions. Imagine waking up and seeing a guy like George going through your valuables. Floyd will never ever do bad things again, remember the next person could have been a family member of yours. Sooner the world is cleared of bad people, white, black or yellow,,,,the better for humanity.

No one will be more disappointed than the republicans if he's found guilty and there are no riots. They are hoping and praying for riots.

Prosecution blew it Wrote:
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> They created a lot of doubt by trying to hide the
> monoxide issue. Judge scolded them big time,
> which made an impression on the jury. He will get
> manslaughter conviction not murder, which is
> Justice. Punishment never should exceed the
> crime.

1. The 'monoxide issue' greatly favors the State - contrary to absurd testimony by the defense's expert, blood CO levels were normal for Mr. Floyd. CO played no role in his death.

2. The judge did not allow evidence offered by the person who did the autopsy. Since this was a motion to admit evidence to be seen by the jury the jury did not hear of it in the courtroom.

3. 2nd degree manslaughter is the most likely outcome IMHO. First degree manslaughter is possible but you would have to prove he intended to murder Mr. Floyd - that would be difficult. I do not think there is anyway anyone can deny Chauvin was negligent and was the direct cause of Mr. Floyd's death. So Chauvin will get 5-7 years in prison and never work as a cop again. Not a bad deal considering Floyd is dead.

4. Punishment exceeds the crime as a matter of course in the USA. Look at the drug laws. You get life for intent to sell a certain amount of dried flower in a school zone but for killing Mr. Floyd the cop will be out and on the beach in 5 years.

5. The Police Bill of Rights especially qualified immunity must be repealed. The burden of proof is absurdly high to prosecute cops. Chauvin obviously killed Floyd and it should be easier to put him in jail.

JVKUB Wrote:
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> You try Nog Wrangling-Not EZ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > J3HWN Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Not sure if you guys caught this, but it
> came
> > > out
> > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > >
> > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > that was with him in the car is “Mama”.
> > > >
> > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> female
> > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he was
> > > calling
> > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he was
> > > really
> > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > >
> > > > Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck
> > this
> > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> > >
> > > Only a trumptard would think that the jury
> will
> > > acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama"
> is
> > his
> > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's how
> > stupid
> > > they are.
> >
> > No, but we think they will acquit because Floyd
> > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> fentanyl
> > and 95% blockage in his arteries
>
>
> And all of those claims were addressed by the
> prosecution and refuted through their expert
> testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount of meth
> and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show any
> signs or symptoms of being overdosed with those
> drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or any
> heart problems.

I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained on the ground by coppers (because the piece of shit was resisting) is responsible for his death.

Floyd was an adult. He died of his own actions. I am near Floyd’s age. I have been trafficked stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested once by the cops once in my life. God willing,I am still alive today because I never resisted arrest and I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.

At least one member of the twelve will disagree. All it takes is one. Right? To disagree. Always going to find someone who wants to be different. The way it is. Human nature. He gets Manslaughter in the 2nd!!!!! Depend on it. Bet on it....Easy money. Murder is ridiculous..everyone knows it is not going to be Murder 1. Too much doubt.

You try Nog Wrangling-NOT EZ Wrote:
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> JVKUB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You try Nog Wrangling-Not EZ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > J3HWN Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Just a Giant Clusterfuck Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Not sure if you guys caught this, but it
> > came
> > > > out
> > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > >
> > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > that was with him in the car is
> “Mama”.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> > female
> > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he was
> > > > calling
> > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he was
> > > > really
> > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant Clusterfuck
> > > this
> > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> > > >
> > > > Only a trumptard would think that the jury
> > will
> > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out "Mama"
> > is
> > > his
> > > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's how
> > > stupid
> > > > they are.
> > >
> > > No, but we think they will acquit because
> Floyd
> > > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> > fentanyl
> > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> >
> >
> > And all of those claims were addressed by the
> > prosecution and refuted through their expert
> > testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount of
> meth
> > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show any
> > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with those
> > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or any
> > heart problems.
>
> I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not
> prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those
> factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained on the
> ground by coppers (because the piece of shit was
> resisting) is responsible for his death.
>
> Floyd was an adult. He died of his own actions.
> I am near Floyd’s age. I have been trafficked
> stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested once by
> the cops once in my life. God willing,I am still
> alive today because I never resisted arrest and
> I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.


Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. The question is: did the prosecution present sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury, that would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer to that is undeniably yes.

Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if the jury believes the defense witnesses who testified differently than the prosecutions.

From what I've watched, the prosecution's witnesses were a lot more credible.

word on the street2 Wrote:
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> At least one member of the twelve will disagree.
> All it takes is one. Right? To disagree. Always
> going to find someone who wants to be different.
> The way it is. Human nature. He gets
> Manslaughter in the 2nd!!!!! Depend on it. Bet
> on it....Easy money. Murder is
> ridiculous..everyone knows it is not going to be
> Murder 1. Too much doubt

Murder in the 3rd degree is very much on the table - Ive watched the whole trial and I would vote to convict on it.

i[]In the opening of the trial against Derek Chauvin, prosecutors accused the ex-Minneapolis officer of using unreasonable force "without regard" that led to the death of George Floyd.

On May 25, 2020, Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for around 9 minutes and 30 seconds after the suspect was handcuffed and lying face down on the road.

In a video that captured the event, Floyd could be heard repeatedly claiming he was unable to breathe and became more distressed as Chauvin continued to hold his knee firmly on the back of Floyd's neck.
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Later that day, Floyd was pronounced dead at Hennepin County Medical Center.

Chauvin now faces three charges, those being second-degree unintentional murder and third-degree murder. He also faces a lesser charge of second-degree manslaughter.

Here is all you need to know about the charges:
Second-degree unintentional murder
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The most serious charge against Chauvin carries a prison sentence of up to 40 years. Although, according to Minnesota sentencing guidelines state a sentence between 10 years and nine months to 15 years could be recommended.

In order to gain a guilty conviction, Minnesota legislature states prosecutors must prove Chauvin caused Floyd's death, "without intent to effect the death of any person while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with for or violence or a drive-by shooting."

It continued: "Or causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designation to receive protection under the order."

As stated in Minnesota state legislature, prosecutors will not have to prove Chauvin intended to kill Floyd.
Third-degree murder

Chauvin will also face an additional murder charge after it was reinstated and offers prosecutors another pathway to conviction in the high-profile case.

According to CNN, Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison said earlier this month: "The charge of third-degree murder, in addition to manslaughter and felony murder, reflects the gravity of the allegations against Mr Chauvin. We look forward to presenting all three charges to the jury."

Minnesota statutes said a person found guilty of third-degree murder faces upwards of 25 years imprisonment.

A person is found guilty of third-degree murder if "whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evidencing a depraved mind, without regard for human life."

In 2019, ex-Minnesota police officer Mohamed Noor was convicted of third-degree murder over the death of Justine Damond.

Damond had called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in progress in the alley near her home but was shot by Noor who fired through the open window of the police car.

Noor was sentenced to 12 years and six months imprisonment in June 2019 and, so far, is the only Minnesota officer to be convicted of murder while on duty.
Second-degree manslaughter

To convict Chauvin of second-degree manslaughter prosecutors will need to prove the former officer caused Floyd's death by "culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another."

Minnesota state legislature said a 10-year sentence, a fine of no more than $20,000 or both is proportionate. However, state sentencing guidelines also recommend a presumptive sentence of between 41 to 57 months imprisonment.[/i]

tldr above

Minnesota statutes said a person found guilty of third-degree murder faces upwards of 25 years imprisonment.A person is found guilty of third-degree murder if "whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evidencing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." In 2019, ex-Minnesota police officer Mohamed Noor was convicted of third-degree murder over the death of Justine Damond.Damond had called 911 to report a possible sexual assault in progress in the alley near her home but was shot by Noor who fired through the open window of the police car.Noor was sentenced to 12 years and six months imprisonment in June 2019 and, so far, is the only Minnesota officer to be convicted of murder while on duty.

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> it
> > > came
> > > > > out
> > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > “Mama”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> > > female
> > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he
> was
> > > > > calling
> > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he
> was
> > > > > really
> > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> Clusterfuck
> > > > this
> > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> jury
> > > will
> > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> "Mama"
> > > is
> > > > his
> > > > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's
> how
> > > > stupid
> > > > > they are.
> > > >
> > > > No, but we think they will acquit because
> > Floyd
> > > > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> > > fentanyl
> > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > >
> > >
> > > And all of those claims were addressed by the
> > > prosecution and refuted through their expert
> > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount of
> > meth
> > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show
> any
> > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> those
> > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or any
> > > heart problems.
> >
> > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not
> > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those
> > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained on
> the
> > ground by coppers (because the piece of shit
> was
> > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> >
> > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own actions.
>
> > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> trafficked
> > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested once
> by
> > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> still
> > alive today because I never resisted arrest and
> > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
>
>
> Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
> The question is: did the prosecution present
> sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury, that
> would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer to
> that is undeniably yes.
>
> Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if the
> jury believes the defense witnesses who testified
> differently than the prosecutions.
>
> From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> witnesses were a lot more credible.


It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your opinion.

Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for 9 minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise, mark or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!! Even Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his neck (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb man) and that was ruled a suicide.

There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t want to see it.

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> > > came
> > > > > out
> > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > “Mama”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> > > female
> > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he
> was
> > > > > calling
> > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he
> was
> > > > > really
> > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> Clusterfuck
> > > > this
> > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> jury
> > > will
> > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> "Mama"
> > > is
> > > > his
> > > > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's
> how
> > > > stupid
> > > > > they are.
> > > >
> > > > No, but we think they will acquit because
> > Floyd
> > > > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> > > fentanyl
> > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > >
> > >
> > > And all of those claims were addressed by the
> > > prosecution and refuted through their expert
> > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount of
> > meth
> > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show
> any
> > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> those
> > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or any
> > > heart problems.
> >
> > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not
> > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those
> > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained on
> the
> > ground by coppers (because the piece of shit
> was
> > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> >
> > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own actions.
>
> > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> trafficked
> > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested once
> by
> > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> still
> > alive today because I never resisted arrest and
> > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
>
>
> Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
> The question is: did the prosecution present
> sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury, that
> would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer to
> that is undeniably yes.
>
> Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if the
> jury believes the defense witnesses who testified
> differently than the prosecutions.
>
> From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> witnesses were a lot more credible.


It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your opinion.

Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for 9 minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise, mark or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!! Even Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his neck (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb man) and that was ruled a suicide.

There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t want to see it.

Just a baker's dozen of ordinary everyday people. I question how much of what both sides had to offer even reached their imaginations. It can go either way, but if it is based on "gut feel" which is the first instinct they use. The guy will be convicted of manslaughter, maybe 5 to 10 years.

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> > > > came
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> > > > female
> > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he
> > was
> > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he
> > was
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > Clusterfuck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter
> is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> > jury
> > > > will
> > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> > "Mama"
> > > > is
> > > > > his
> > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's
> > how
> > > > > stupid
> > > > > > they are.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, but we think they will acquit because
> > > Floyd
> > > > > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> > > > fentanyl
> > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And all of those claims were addressed by
> the
> > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> expert
> > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount
> of
> > > meth
> > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show
> > any
> > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> > those
> > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or
> any
> > > > heart problems.
> > >
> > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not
> > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those
> > > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained
> on
> > the
> > > ground by coppers (because the piece of shit
> > was
> > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > >
> > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> actions.
> >
> > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > trafficked
> > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> once
> > by
> > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> > still
> > > alive today because I never resisted arrest
> and
> > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> >
> >
> > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
>
> > The question is: did the prosecution present
> > sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury,
> that
> > would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer
> to
> > that is undeniably yes.
> >
> > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if
> the
> > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> testified
> > differently than the prosecutions.
> >
> > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > witnesses were a lot more credible.
>
>
> It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your
> opinion.
>
> Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for 9
> minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise, mark
> or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!! Even
> Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his neck
> (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb man)
> and that was ruled a suicide.
>
> There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t want
> to see it.

No, you're still missing the point. I said "if the jury believed the prosecution witnesses" there's enough to convict. You keep ignoring that. The prosecution witnesses testified that Floyd died because Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck for over nine minutes. The prosecution witnesses said that Chauvin violated police procedures when he did that. That's enough for 3rd degree murder. You may not believe those witnesses, and you don't because you're a racist and you can't stand the thought of Chauvin being acquitted, but the jury can certainly believe the witnesses and they probably will.

And, of course, you're making stuff up. Even the defense witnesses didn't say anything about any lack of bruising or bone fractures as an indication that Chauvin didn't kill Floyd. They said Floyd died of causes other than the knee on the neck.

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> > > it
> > > > > came
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all
> the
> > > > > female
> > > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because
> he
> > > was
> > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when
> he
> > > was
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > > Clusterfuck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter
> > is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> > > jury
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> > > "Mama"
> > > > > is
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother.
> That's
> > > how
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > they are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, but we think they will acquit
> because
> > > > Floyd
> > > > > > was a drugged out felon with a history
> of
> > > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth
> and
> > > > > fentanyl
> > > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And all of those claims were addressed by
> > the
> > > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> > expert
> > > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal
> amount
> > of
> > > > meth
> > > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't
> show
> > > any
> > > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> > > those
> > > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or
> > any
> > > > > heart problems.
> > > >
> > > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did
> not
> > > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all
> those
> > > > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained
> > on
> > > the
> > > > ground by coppers (because the piece of
> shit
> > > was
> > > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > > >
> > > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> > actions.
> > >
> > > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > > trafficked
> > > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> > once
> > > by
> > > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> > > still
> > > > alive today because I never resisted arrest
> > and
> > > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking
> about.
> >
> > > The question is: did the prosecution present
> > > sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury,
> > that
> > > would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> > > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer
> > to
> > > that is undeniably yes.
> > >
> > > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if
> > the
> > > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> > testified
> > > differently than the prosecutions.
> > >
> > > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > > witnesses were a lot more credible.
> >
> >
> > It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your
> > opinion.
> >
> > Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for
> 9
> > minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise,
> mark
> > or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!!
> Even
> > Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his
> neck
> > (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb
> man)
> > and that was ruled a suicide.
> >
> > There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t
> want
> > to see it.
>
> No, you're still missing the point. I said "if
> the jury believed the prosecution witnesses"
> there's enough to convict. You keep ignoring
> that. The prosecution witnesses testified that
> Floyd died because Chauvin kept his knee on
> Floyd's neck for over nine minutes. The
> prosecution witnesses said that Chauvin violated
> police procedures when he did that. That's enough
> for 3rd degree murder. You may not believe those
> witnesses, and you don't because you're a racist
> and you can't stand the thought of Chauvin being
> acquitted, but the jury can certainly believe the
> witnesses and they probably will.
>
> And, of course, you're making stuff up. Even the
> defense witnesses didn't say anything about any
> lack of bruising or bone fractures as an
> indication that Chauvin didn't kill Floyd. They
> said Floyd died of causes other than the knee on
> the neck.


You’re an idiot. Defense witnesses are gonna say things to support the defense. And of course prosecution’s witness is going to say things to support the prosecution. All those witnesses are paid to say what they say. The US media is gonna do everything possible to convict Chauvin in the court of public opinion and start some rioting, looting and arson. I expect nothing less.

I watched the entire trial. I have reasonable doubt. It bothers me that there were no marks, bruises or fracture in the piece of shit’s neck. It bothers me the piece of shit had lethal amounts of meth and Fentanyl and a shitty heart. That’s the reasonable doubt right there. The only reason I don’t think Chauvin will be acquitted is because the black jurors made up their mind long ago on May 25, 2020. Those are the real racists.

Hung jury. Absolutely. All it takes is one.

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You are incorrect. The murderous pig is going to prison.

Chauvin is going to jail., His defense is about limiting the sentence. No matter what kind of lowlife Floyd was, cops aren't judges, juries, or executioners. Lie on your stomach with your hands behind your back and let a homeboy put his knee and body weight on your pencil neck for a few minutes.That is the only salient issue, the rest is extraneous piffle.

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> > > > it
> > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack
> ho
> > > > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all
> > the
> > > > > > female
> > > > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic
> because
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother,
> when
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > > > Clusterfuck
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives
> Matter
> > > is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that
> the
> > > > jury
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find
> out
> > > > "Mama"
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother.
> > That's
> > > > how
> > > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > > they are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, but we think they will acquit
> > because
> > > > > Floyd
> > > > > > > was a drugged out felon with a
> history
> > of
> > > > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth
> > and
> > > > > > fentanyl
> > > > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And all of those claims were addressed
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> > > expert
> > > > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal
> > amount
> > > of
> > > > > meth
> > > > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't
> > show
> > > > any
> > > > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed
> with
> > > > those
> > > > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack
> or
> > > any
> > > > > > heart problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did
> > not
> > > > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all
> > those
> > > > > factor in COMBINATION plus being
> restrained
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > > ground by coppers (because the piece of
> > shit
> > > > was
> > > > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > > > >
> > > > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> > > actions.
> > > >
> > > > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > > > trafficked
> > > > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> > > once
> > > > by
> > > > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I
> am
> > > > still
> > > > > alive today because I never resisted
> arrest
> > > and
> > > > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking
> > about.
> > >
> > > > The question is: did the prosecution
> present
> > > > sufficient evidence, if believed by the
> jury,
> > > that
> > > > would be enough for the jury to find
> Chauvin
> > > > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The
> answer
> > > to
> > > > that is undeniably yes.
> > > >
> > > > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes,
> if
> > > the
> > > > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> > > testified
> > > > differently than the prosecutions.
> > > >
> > > > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > > > witnesses were a lot more credible.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s
> your
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck
> for
> > 9
> > > minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise,
> > mark
> > > or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!!
> > Even
> > > Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his
> > neck
> > > (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb
> > man)
> > > and that was ruled a suicide.
> > >
> > > There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t
> > want
> > > to see it.
> >
> > No, you're still missing the point. I said "if
> > the jury believed the prosecution witnesses"
> > there's enough to convict. You keep ignoring
> > that. The prosecution witnesses testified that
> > Floyd died because Chauvin kept his knee on
> > Floyd's neck for over nine minutes. The
> > prosecution witnesses said that Chauvin
> violated
> > police procedures when he did that. That's
> enough
> > for 3rd degree murder. You may not believe
> those
> > witnesses, and you don't because you're a
> racist
> > and you can't stand the thought of Chauvin
> being
> > acquitted, but the jury can certainly believe
> the
> > witnesses and they probably will.
> >
> > And, of course, you're making stuff up. Even
> the
> > defense witnesses didn't say anything about any
> > lack of bruising or bone fractures as an
> > indication that Chauvin didn't kill Floyd.
> They
> > said Floyd died of causes other than the knee
> on
> > the neck.
>
>
> You’re an idiot. Defense witnesses are gonna
> say things to support the defense. And of course
> prosecution’s witness is going to say things to
> support the prosecution. All those witnesses are
> paid to say what they say. The US media is gonna
> do everything possible to convict Chauvin in the
> court of public opinion and start some rioting,
> looting and arson. I expect nothing less.
>
> I watched the entire trial. I have reasonable
> doubt. It bothers me that there were no marks,
> bruises or fracture in the piece of shit’s neck.
> It bothers me the piece of shit had lethal
> amounts of meth and Fentanyl and a shitty heart.
> That’s the reasonable doubt right there. The
> only reason I don’t think Chauvin will be
> acquitted is because the black jurors made up
> their mind long ago on May 25, 2020. Those are
> the real racists.
>
> Hung jury. Absolutely. All it takes is one.

Fortunately, racists like you are not as common as you think. And the judge will instruct them not to consider things like "no bruises or fractures means that the knee on the neck didn't kill him" that were not in evidence. And of course you assume without any basis that the black jurors made up their minds a long time ago and based on that totally unsupported accusation you call them racists. What a fucking piece of shit you are.

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> > it
> > > > came
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all the
> > > > female
> > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because he
> > was
> > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when he
> > was
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > Clusterfuck
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter
> is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> > jury
> > > > will
> > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> > "Mama"
> > > > is
> > > > > his
> > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother. That's
> > how
> > > > > stupid
> > > > > > they are.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, but we think they will acquit because
> > > Floyd
> > > > > was a drugged out felon with a history of
> > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth and
> > > > fentanyl
> > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And all of those claims were addressed by
> the
> > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> expert
> > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal amount
> of
> > > meth
> > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't show
> > any
> > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> > those
> > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or
> any
> > > > heart problems.
> > >
> > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did not
> > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all those
> > > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained
> on
> > the
> > > ground by coppers (because the piece of shit
> > was
> > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > >
> > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> actions.
> >
> > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > trafficked
> > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> once
> > by
> > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> > still
> > > alive today because I never resisted arrest
> and
> > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> >
> >
> > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
>
> > The question is: did the prosecution present
> > sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury,
> that
> > would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer
> to
> > that is undeniably yes.
> >
> > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if
> the
> > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> testified
> > differently than the prosecutions.
> >
> > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > witnesses were a lot more credible.
>
>
> It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your
> opinion.
>
> Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for 9
> minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise, mark
> or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!! Even
> Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his neck
> (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb man)
> and that was ruled a suicide.
>
> There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t want
> to see it.


Ive listened to it all - you appear to have not listened to the trial. State had multiple experts testify about asphyxiation and bruises are not required at all for the ruling of same. You can suffocate someone with a pillow and they will not be bruised at all. BTW there were bruises on Mr. Floyd. As to Mr. Epstein that was a hanging, whether suicide or homicide an entirely different mechanism of asphyxiation. The defense failed badly in its attempt to even cast doubt as to the actual cause of death - it was asphyxiation due to his position and to the body weight on his body for a period of time.

The only question for the jury does it constitute 3rd degree murder as follows "whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evidencing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." I believe the evidence removes any doubt Chauvin murdered Mr. Floyd by this definition in MN law.

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> this,
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > during defense cross
> examination.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the
> crack
> > ho
> > > > > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > > > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying
> all
> > > the
> > > > > > > female
> > > > > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic
> > because
> > > he
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother,
> > when
> > > he
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > > > > Clusterfuck
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives
> > Matter
> > > > is.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that
> > the
> > > > > jury
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find
> > out
> > > > > "Mama"
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother.
> > > That's
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > > > they are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, but we think they will acquit
> > > because
> > > > > > Floyd
> > > > > > > > was a drugged out felon with a
> > history
> > > of
> > > > > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of
> meth
> > > and
> > > > > > > fentanyl
> > > > > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And all of those claims were
> addressed
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > > prosecution and refuted through
> their
> > > > expert
> > > > > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal
> > > amount
> > > > of
> > > > > > meth
> > > > > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't
> > > show
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed
> > with
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart
> attack
> > or
> > > > any
> > > > > > > heart problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution
> did
> > > not
> > > > > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all
> > > those
> > > > > > factor in COMBINATION plus being
> > restrained
> > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > ground by coppers (because the piece of
> > > shit
> > > > > was
> > > > > > resisting) is responsible for his
> death.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> > > > actions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > > > > trafficked
> > > > > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and
> arrested
> > > > once
> > > > > by
> > > > > > the cops once in my life. God
> willing,I
> > am
> > > > > still
> > > > > > alive today because I never resisted
> > arrest
> > > > and
> > > > > > I’m not a meth users with a bad
> heart.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking
> > > about.
> > > >
> > > > > The question is: did the prosecution
> > present
> > > > > sufficient evidence, if believed by the
> > jury,
> > > > that
> > > > > would be enough for the jury to find
> > Chauvin
> > > > > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The
> > answer
> > > > to
> > > > > that is undeniably yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes,
> > if
> > > > the
> > > > > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> > > > testified
> > > > > differently than the prosecutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > > > > witnesses were a lot more credible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s
> > your
> > > > opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s
> neck
> > for
> > > 9
> > > > minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise,
> > > mark
> > > > or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!!
> > > Even
> > > > Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his
> > > neck
> > > > (and that was from bedsheets and not a
> 140lb
> > > man)
> > > > and that was ruled a suicide.
> > > >
> > > > There is reasonable doubt. You just
> don’t
> > > want
> > > > to see it.
> > >
> > > No, you're still missing the point. I said
> "if
> > > the jury believed the prosecution witnesses"
> > > there's enough to convict. You keep ignoring
> > > that. The prosecution witnesses testified
> that
> > > Floyd died because Chauvin kept his knee on
> > > Floyd's neck for over nine minutes. The
> > > prosecution witnesses said that Chauvin
> > violated
> > > police procedures when he did that. That's
> > enough
> > > for 3rd degree murder. You may not believe
> > those
> > > witnesses, and you don't because you're a
> > racist
> > > and you can't stand the thought of Chauvin
> > being
> > > acquitted, but the jury can certainly believe
> > the
> > > witnesses and they probably will.
> > >
> > > And, of course, you're making stuff up. Even
> > the
> > > defense witnesses didn't say anything about
> any
> > > lack of bruising or bone fractures as an
> > > indication that Chauvin didn't kill Floyd.
> > They
> > > said Floyd died of causes other than the knee
> > on
> > > the neck.
> >
> >
> > You’re an idiot. Defense witnesses are gonna
> > say things to support the defense. And of
> course
> > prosecution’s witness is going to say things
> to
> > support the prosecution. All those witnesses
> are
> > paid to say what they say. The US media is
> gonna
> > do everything possible to convict Chauvin in
> the
> > court of public opinion and start some rioting,
> > looting and arson. I expect nothing less.
> >
> > I watched the entire trial. I have reasonable
> > doubt. It bothers me that there were no marks,
> > bruises or fracture in the piece of shit’s
> neck.
> > It bothers me the piece of shit had lethal
> > amounts of meth and Fentanyl and a shitty heart.
>
> > That’s the reasonable doubt right there. The
> > only reason I don’t think Chauvin will be
> > acquitted is because the black jurors made up
> > their mind long ago on May 25, 2020. Those
> are
> > the real racists.
> >
> > Hung jury. Absolutely. All it takes is one.
>
> Fortunately, racists like you are not as common as
> you think. And the judge will instruct them not
> to consider things like "no bruises or fractures
> means that the knee on the neck didn't kill him"
> that were not in evidence. And of course you
> assume without any basis that the black jurors
> made up their minds a long time ago and based on
> that totally unsupported accusation you call them
> racists. What a fucking piece of shit you are.


The judge is not going to instruct the jury to ignore evidence. You are completely out of your fucking mind.

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> > > it
> > > > > came
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack ho
> > > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all
> the
> > > > > female
> > > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic because
> he
> > > was
> > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother, when
> he
> > > was
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > > Clusterfuck
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives Matter
> > is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that the
> > > jury
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find out
> > > "Mama"
> > > > > is
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother.
> That's
> > > how
> > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > they are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, but we think they will acquit
> because
> > > > Floyd
> > > > > > was a drugged out felon with a history
> of
> > > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth
> and
> > > > > fentanyl
> > > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And all of those claims were addressed by
> > the
> > > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> > expert
> > > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal
> amount
> > of
> > > > meth
> > > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't
> show
> > > any
> > > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed with
> > > those
> > > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack or
> > any
> > > > > heart problems.
> > > >
> > > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did
> not
> > > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all
> those
> > > > factor in COMBINATION plus being restrained
> > on
> > > the
> > > > ground by coppers (because the piece of
> shit
> > > was
> > > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > > >
> > > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> > actions.
> > >
> > > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > > trafficked
> > > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> > once
> > > by
> > > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I am
> > > still
> > > > alive today because I never resisted arrest
> > and
> > > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking
> about.
> >
> > > The question is: did the prosecution present
> > > sufficient evidence, if believed by the jury,
> > that
> > > would be enough for the jury to find Chauvin
> > > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The answer
> > to
> > > that is undeniably yes.
> > >
> > > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes, if
> > the
> > > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> > testified
> > > differently than the prosecutions.
> > >
> > > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > > witnesses were a lot more credible.
> >
> >
> > It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s your
> > opinion.
> >
> > Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck for
> 9
> > minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise,
> mark
> > or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!!
> Even
> > Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his
> neck
> > (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb
> man)
> > and that was ruled a suicide.
> >
> > There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t
> want
> > to see it.
>
>
> Ive listened to it all - you appear to have not
> listened to the trial. State had multiple experts
> testify about asphyxiation and bruises are not
> required at all for the ruling of same. You can
> suffocate someone with a pillow and they will not
> be bruised at all. BTW there were bruises on Mr.
> Floyd. As to Mr. Epstein that was a hanging,
> whether suicide or homicide an entirely different
> mechanism of asphyxiation. The defense failed
> badly in its attempt to even cast doubt as to the
> actual cause of death - it was asphyxiation due to
> his position and to the body weight on his body
> for a period of time.
>
> The only question for the jury does it constitute
> 3rd degree murder as follows "whoever, without
> intent to effect the death of any person, causes
> the death of another by perpetrating an act
> eminently dangerous to others and evidencing a
> depraved mind, without regard for human life."
> I believe the evidence removes any doubt Chauvin
> murdered Mr. Floyd by this definition in MN law.


Now you are saying a 140lb man on your neck is the same as pillow suffocation that leaves no bruises???

You are stupid as fuck and out of your fucking mind you dumb nigger!!!

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> Fortunately, racists like you are not as common as
> you think. And the judge will instruct them not
> to consider things like "no bruises or fractures
> means that the knee on the neck didn't kill him"
> that were not in evidence. And of course you
> assume without any basis that the black jurors
> made up their minds a long time ago and based on
> that totally unsupported accusation you call them
> racists. What a fucking piece of shit you are.


Yea you havent listened to the trial either. Discussion of the knee on the neck and shoulder and the presence or absence of bruises was discussed for literally hours - you do not need to bruise someone or break a bone or bones to suffocate them. In fact State had hours of testimony as to how non-bruising, non-bone-fracturing force can and did cause Mr. Floyd's death. So, no, the judge wont instruct anything you are claiming.

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> > > > > > > > > Not sure if you guys caught this,
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > during defense cross examination.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Floyd’s nickname for the crack
> ho
> > > > > > > > ex-girlfriend
> > > > > > > > > that was with him in the car is
> > > > > “Mama”.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So you had corrupt CNN saying all
> > the
> > > > > > female
> > > > > > > > > jurors will be sympathetic
> because
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > calling
> > > > > > > > > out for his long-dead mother,
> when
> > he
> > > > was
> > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > asking for his crack Ho.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just too funny!! What a giant
> > > > Clusterfuck
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > entire case and Black Lives
> Matter
> > > is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Only a trumptard would think that
> the
> > > > jury
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > acquit Chauvin because they find
> out
> > > > "Mama"
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > girlfriend and not his mother.
> > That's
> > > > how
> > > > > > > stupid
> > > > > > > > they are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, but we think they will acquit
> > because
> > > > > Floyd
> > > > > > > was a drugged out felon with a
> history
> > of
> > > > > > > overdoses and a lethal amount of meth
> > and
> > > > > > fentanyl
> > > > > > > and 95% blockage in his arteries
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And all of those claims were addressed
> by
> > > the
> > > > > > prosecution and refuted through their
> > > expert
> > > > > > testimony. He didn't have a lethal
> > amount
> > > of
> > > > > meth
> > > > > > and fentanyl in his system; he didn't
> > show
> > > > any
> > > > > > signs or symptoms of being overdosed
> with
> > > > those
> > > > > > drugs; he didn't die of a heart attack
> or
> > > any
> > > > > > heart problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly disagree. The prosecution did
> > not
> > > > > prove beyond reasonable doubt that all
> > those
> > > > > factor in COMBINATION plus being
> restrained
> > > on
> > > > the
> > > > > ground by coppers (because the piece of
> > shit
> > > > was
> > > > > resisting) is responsible for his death.
> > > > >
> > > > > Floyd was an adult. He died of his own
> > > actions.
> > > >
> > > > > I am near Floyd’s age. I have been
> > > > trafficked
> > > > > stopped by the Po-Po 6 times and arrested
> > > once
> > > > by
> > > > > the cops once in my life. God willing,I
> am
> > > > still
> > > > > alive today because I never resisted
> arrest
> > > and
> > > > > I’m not a meth users with a bad heart.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, you don't know what you're talking
> > about.
> > >
> > > > The question is: did the prosecution
> present
> > > > sufficient evidence, if believed by the
> jury,
> > > that
> > > > would be enough for the jury to find
> Chauvin
> > > > guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The
> answer
> > > to
> > > > that is undeniably yes.
> > > >
> > > > Could he still be found not guilty? Yes,
> if
> > > the
> > > > jury believes the defense witnesses who
> > > testified
> > > > differently than the prosecutions.
> > > >
> > > > From what I've watched, the prosecution's
> > > > witnesses were a lot more credible.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not “undeniably yes”. That’s
> your
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > Chauvin knelt on that piece of shit’s neck
> for
> > 9
> > > minutes but there wasn’t a single bruise,
> > mark
> > > or bone fracture?? Yeah, fuck that shit!!
> > Even
> > > Epstein had marks and bone fractures in his
> > neck
> > > (and that was from bedsheets and not a 140lb
> > man)
> > > and that was ruled a suicide.
> > >
> > > There is reasonable doubt. You just don’t
> > want
> > > to see it.
> >
> >
> > Ive listened to it all - you appear to have not
> > listened to the trial. State had multiple
> experts
> > testify about asphyxiation and bruises are not
> > required at all for the ruling of same. You
> can
> > suffocate someone with a pillow and they will
> not
> > be bruised at all. BTW there were bruises on
> Mr.
> > Floyd. As to Mr. Epstein that was a hanging,
> > whether suicide or homicide an entirely
> different
> > mechanism of asphyxiation. The defense failed
> > badly in its attempt to even cast doubt as to
> the
> > actual cause of death - it was asphyxiation due
> to
> > his position and to the body weight on his body
> > for a period of time.
> >
> > The only question for the jury does it
> constitute
> > 3rd degree murder as follows "whoever,
> without
> > intent to effect the death of any person,
> causes
> > the death of another by perpetrating an act
> > eminently dangerous to others and evidencing a
> > depraved mind, without regard for human
> life."
> > I believe the evidence removes any doubt
> Chauvin
> > murdered Mr. Floyd by this definition in MN
> law.
>
>
> Now you are saying a 140lb man on your neck is the
> same as pillow suffocation that leaves no
> bruises???
>
> You are stupid as fuck and out of your fucking
> mind you dumb nigger!!!


You are the one that claimed Epstein was killed by George Floyd!

A 140 lbs man with 40 lbs more of gear on your neck that can suffocate you but not leave any broken bones, any bruises, any marks or any swelling??

And it’s just like a pillow?????

I call Bullshit!! Chauvin ain’t not magician.

It doesn’t pass the smell test. No Fucking Way!!

Hung Jury.

No Fucking Way!!!!!! Wrote:
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> A 140 lbs man with 40 lbs more of gear on your
> neck that can suffocate you but not leave any
> broken bones, any bruises, any marks or any
> swelling??
>
> And it’s just like a pillow?????
>
> I call Bullshit!! Chauvin ain’t not magician.
>
> It doesn’t pass the smell test. No Fucking
> Way!!
>
> Hung Jury.

This from someone who claims George Floyd killed Epstein with a pillow and left no bruises or broken bones.

Did the knee on the neck kill him? NO
Did he die with the knee on the neck? NO
Was he alive when the knee was taken off the neck? YES

Was there enough drugs in his system, with a bad heart to begin with, to kill him? YES

The most I could see is a serious assault charge and fired from the PD.

That is all the evidence points to - two assholes met that day, one was a cop and the other a criminal drug addict.

Cop was an asshole and assaulted the criminal = assault + fired from PD.
Criminal died from drugs and a bad heart.

If criminal was not on drugs and did not have a bad heart, he would have been just fine when taken into custody. After which, he could have sued the PD and been a millionaire.

If any of us had a person put their knee to our neck for 10 minutes, we would survive.

No Bruises?? No Marks?? No Fracture??

Chauvin got the Force ??
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