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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: xtk4l ()
Date: April 15, 2021 12:54PM

Tulsa tiger Wrote:
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> > dresses are messes Wrote:
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> > > yemxt Wrote:
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> > > > Redneck Playtime Wrote:
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> > > > -----
> > > > > US spends more on its military then the
> > next
> > > 10
> > > > > largest military powers in the world
> > COMBINED
> > > > and
> > > > > dipshits with pretend assault rifles and
> > > > pretend
> > > > > military costumes think they can
> > 'overthrow'
> > > > the
> > > > > USA. Redneck Playtime is over you
> dopes...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And dudes in dresses can insist you call
> them
> > > > ma'am. But we don't outlaw that.
> > >
> > > difference being the dudes in dresses have
> > courage
> > > - the fuckwits pretending to be military cry
> > like
> > > babies and blame hippies when they get
> caught.
> >
> >
> > There are currently about 18 million veterans
> in
> > the US. They are overwhelming conservative
> (2-1
> > over libs at least). Stop being such a fag.
> If
> > just the vets alone rose up against the
> > government, they'd win.
> >
> > Trannie are going to be mine sweepers. They'll
> be
> > on point to take the brunt of the IEDs and
> > snipers.
>
>
> Seriously, where do you get such outdated
> information?
>
> Military Times surveys veterans, and found in
> 2008, 64% voted Republican, in 2016, 60% voted
> Republican, and in 2020, 52% voted Republican. Do
> you see a trend?
>
> Hint, As the WWII, and Korean War vets die or stop
> voting, the veteran Republican vote goes down.


Your that faggot who wrote "at university" yesterday. Go back to fuckastan you foreign piece of shit. Seriously.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Ffdude ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:06PM

Correct, Overwhelming veteran support for Republicans started sliding after GW Bush invaded Iraq based on a lie, and then used our troops for political propaganda when the war turned into a sh#tshow.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Tulsa tiger ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:11PM

xtk4l Wrote:
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> Tulsa tiger Wrote:
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> -----
> > kdciu Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > dresses are messes Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > yemxt Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Redneck Playtime Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > US spends more on its military then the
> > > next
> > > > 10
> > > > > > largest military powers in the world
> > > COMBINED
> > > > > and
> > > > > > dipshits with pretend assault rifles
> and
> > > > > pretend
> > > > > > military costumes think they can
> > > 'overthrow'
> > > > > the
> > > > > > USA. Redneck Playtime is over you
> > dopes...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And dudes in dresses can insist you call
> > them
> > > > > ma'am. But we don't outlaw that.
> > > >
> > > > difference being the dudes in dresses have
> > > courage
> > > > - the fuckwits pretending to be military
> cry
> > > like
> > > > babies and blame hippies when they get
> > caught.
> > >
> > >
> > > There are currently about 18 million veterans
> > in
> > > the US. They are overwhelming conservative
> > (2-1
> > > over libs at least). Stop being such a fag.
> > If
> > > just the vets alone rose up against the
> > > government, they'd win.
> > >
> > > Trannie are going to be mine sweepers.
> They'll
> > be
> > > on point to take the brunt of the IEDs and
> > > snipers.
> >
> >
> > Seriously, where do you get such outdated
> > information?
> >
> > Military Times surveys veterans, and found in
> > 2008, 64% voted Republican, in 2016, 60% voted
> > Republican, and in 2020, 52% voted Republican.
> Do
> > you see a trend?
> >
> > Hint, As the WWII, and Korean War vets die or
> stop
> > voting, the veteran Republican vote goes down.
>
>
> Your that faggot who wrote "at university"
> yesterday. Go back to fuckastan you foreign piece
> of shit. Seriously.


I was born in America, my parents and grandparents were all born in America.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: xnw94 ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:16PM

'at university'. Faggot.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: It Matters Not ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:22PM

When we commies pack the court all guns will be banned , no more smelly jet skis gas cars redneck pickups snowmobiles 4 wheelers motorcycles , go puke green or bike or walk cuz you thought T was so bad but Dems are horrible

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: been there, done that ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:26PM

Military Times? lol

They are owned by SightLine Publishing, a leftwing propaganda publisher who are in bed with the federal government. MT publishes what the Pentagon tells them to. Just like Federal Times (also a SightLine rag) publishes whatever leftwing propaganda the SES Assoc tells them to publish.

All SightLine birdcage liners exist to support the deep state. I'm a vet. Got two kids active duty right now. One tells me that they still have pictures of Trump up in their CP and they both tell me everyone hates Biden and especially Harris.

The grunts hate libs. Did when I was in. Still do. That's why they're trying to do a purge. They're going to find that they'd have to purge 80% of the Army and Marines to if they want to get rid of conservatives. Navy and Air Force, a little less.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Tulsa sucks btw ()
Date: April 15, 2021 01:34PM

Tulsa tiger Wrote:

> Seriously, where do you get such outdated
> information?
>
> Military Times surveys veterans, and found in
> 2008, 64% voted Republican, in 2016, 60% voted
> Republican, and in 2020, 52% voted Republican. Do
> you see a trend?
>
> Hint, As the WWII, and Korean War vets die or stop
> voting, the veteran Republican vote goes down.


Polls? Seriously? The fall back position of the weak. Exit polls showed Trump won almost 60% of the veteran vote. And those polls were even proven to be low for Trump as conservatives refuse to talk to exit pollsters by a rate of over 2:1. The final numbers were about 2/3rds voted for Trump (not necessarily for other GOP candidates) and 1/3 for someone else (not all voted for Biden).

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Tulsa tiger ()
Date: April 15, 2021 05:21PM

Again, your info is outdated.
Exit polling in 2020? Really????


The Military Times in November 2020 cited exit and mail in ballot polling from Edison Research that showed 52 percent of military and veteran voters preferred President Donald Trump to Biden, who 45 percent preferred. This number matched the Times own polling in October, 2020. The margin is much narrower than in 2016, when Trump enjoyed a 26-percent advantage, pulling in 60 percent to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s 34 percent.

Election analysts warned about putting too much stock in exit polling in 2020, but the Edison Research data is more reliable than most, as it surveyed both in-person and mail-in ballot voters (which some other pollsters failed to do).

The data was also consistent with other surveys of military and veteran voters, which showed Trump continually losing popularity among this group as he ignored reports of Russian bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan, continued to fire defense officials at will, and reportedly called veterans who died “suckers and losers.” This falling support also came after years of Trump denigrating Gold Star families like that of Khizr Khan’s and constantly attacking POW hero, the late Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona.

Biden, having a son who served in Iraq, and had a history on issues concerning soldiers, taking prescedent over hardware spending, showed him in a better light.

I say where I got my info, you do not.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: 2funny ()
Date: April 16, 2021 10:05AM

Tulsa sucks btw Wrote:
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> Tulsa tiger Wrote:
>
> > Seriously, where do you get such outdated
> > information?
> >
> > Military Times surveys veterans, and found in
> > 2008, 64% voted Republican, in 2016, 60% voted
> > Republican, and in 2020, 52% voted Republican.
> Do
> > you see a trend?
> >
> > Hint, As the WWII, and Korean War vets die or
> stop
> > voting, the veteran Republican vote goes down.
>
>
> Polls? Seriously? The fall back position of the
> weak. Exit polls showed Trump won almost 60% of
> the veteran vote. And those polls were even
> proven to be low for Trump as conservatives refuse
> to talk to exit pollsters by a rate of over 2:1.
> The final numbers were about 2/3rds voted for
> Trump (not necessarily for other GOP candidates)
> and 1/3 for someone else (not all voted for
> Biden).

In 2020, more than 200 Generals and Admirals, both active and retired, endorsed Biden. Can we be clear, here? Many of these highest ranking officials worked directly across the table from Trump, and endorsed Biden.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: meetm ()
Date: April 16, 2021 10:30AM

Since there are just under 1000 general officers that are active or retired in the US, that means 800 didn't endorse Xiden. That seems about right. Xiden only got about 20 - 30% of the actual legal votes cast as well.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: April 16, 2021 12:03PM

meetm Wrote:
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> Since there are just under 1000 general officers
> that are active or retired in the US, that means
> 800 didn't endorse Xiden. That seems about right.
> Xiden only got about 20 - 30% of the actual legal
> votes cast as well.


You are an idiot with a false premise. Just because someone didn't endorse a candidate doesn't mean that person didn't vote for the candidate or voted for someone else.

Let's get back to Military Times. Two weeks before the 2020 election they wrote:

A group supporting the Joe Biden presidential campaign released a second list Tuesday of 291 former generals, admirals, senior enlisted and national security officials backing the former vice president, for a total of 780 in the battle of endorsements with the Trump campaign.

The new list includes the names of 81 retired military leaders, bringing the total number of former senior military members backing Biden to 284. That tops the list of 235 former military leaders backing President Donald Trump, which was put out by the Trump campaign last month.


Hardly 20-30 percent.
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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: 2funny ()
Date: April 16, 2021 12:27PM

"You are an idiot with a false premise?"

Sounds like 70% of the posters here.

Look, the number of retired military leaders who can endorse is in flux. Some die,some become mentally or physically unable to vote, and some, I am sure, decide to not participate.

Asserting those in uncommitted members in the pool all voted for Trump is assinine. Republicans sending us to war for no national security reason, abusing our troops, dissing Gold Star Families, race baiting, and not attending funerals for the fallen, has eroded the lock the GOP once had on the military vote.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Tulsa Tiger ()
Date: April 16, 2021 12:45PM

been there, done that Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Military Times? lol
>
> They are owned by SightLine Publishing, a leftwing
> propaganda publisher who are in bed with the
> federal government. MT publishes what the
> Pentagon tells them to. Just like Federal Times
> (also a SightLine rag) publishes whatever leftwing
> propaganda the SES Assoc tells them to publish.
>
> All SightLine birdcage liners exist to support the
> deep state. I'm a vet. Got two kids active duty
> right now. One tells me that they still have
> pictures of Trump up in their CP and they both
> tell me everyone hates Biden and especially
> Harris.
>
> The grunts hate libs. Did when I was in. Still
> do. That's why they're trying to do a purge.
> They're going to find that they'd have to purge
> 80% of the Army and Marines to if they want to get
> rid of conservatives. Navy and Air Force, a
> little less.

Your comments make no sense. If they publish what the Pentagon tells them to publish, then why did they publish bad Trump poling news if, according to this thread, the military is 80% Republican?


"And they both tell me .." that's hearsay, and lazy thinking. Everyone is all. Are you to politicly blind to understand variables?

They are purging White Supremacists, not "Conservatives," so, you are wrong there as well, unless you believe those two groups are one in the same. I could concede, though, at this point they may just be.

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: tooberville ()
Date: April 16, 2021 12:56PM

Thoughts and prayers for Illinois FED EX dead. There is nothing we can do about these natural disasters all of us are helpless in the USA. GOP and 2nd Amendments are Holy and cannot be changed.

thnx

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Re: Common Sense Gun Control is Nonsense | Change My Mind
Posted by: Ffdude ()
Date: April 16, 2021 12:58PM

Conservatives an White Supremacists are not the same thing.
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