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Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: February 25, 2021 09:53AM

They were all turned over to the Manhattan DA. Since the DA hired an expert forensic accountant for this Trump investigation, we are certainly going to have a wild ride moving forward.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: see you in court ()
Date: February 25, 2021 09:57AM

The fraudster's house of cards is wobbling. Decades of banking and insurance fraud and income tax evasion is about to become public information.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: No worries? ()
Date: February 25, 2021 10:35AM

As long as Trump is as clean as his acolytes claim, he will have nothing to worry about.

If he is not, well...

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: dumb-dumb ()
Date: February 25, 2021 10:46AM

i thought the tax department went through his taxes to find any errors when he filed.

they have always had "access" to them.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:02AM

dumb-dumb Wrote:
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> i thought the tax department went through his
> taxes to find any errors when he filed.
>
> they have always had "access" to them.


Errors are not fraud.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Here's The Real Deal ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:05AM

His taxes are so complex, even advanced accountants have a hard time keeping up with:

write offs, investments, deferrals, upfronts, adjusted gross income, casualty losses, charitable donations, credits, etc. etc. etc.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:06AM

No worries? Wrote:
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> As long as Trump is as clean as his acolytes
> claim, he will have nothing to worry about.
>
> If he is not, well...


Acolytes like his former attorney Michael Cohen, who was just interviewed for seven hours by the Manhattan DA's office on tax and insurance fraud allegedly committed by the Great Orange One?

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Cohen ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:11AM

Red lion Wrote:
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> No worries? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As long as Trump is as clean as his acolytes
> > claim, he will have nothing to worry about.
> >
> > If he is not, well...
>
>
> Acolytes like his former attorney Michael Cohen,
> who was just interviewed for seven hours by the
> Manhattan DA's office on tax and insurance fraud
> allegedly committed by the Great Orange One?

Is probably best described as a former, or even better, a recovering acolyte

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Vivian Vance ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:39AM

I'm tired of hearing about his tax returns

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: So is Trump ()
Date: February 25, 2021 12:11PM

Vivian Vance Wrote:
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> I'm tired of hearing about his tax returns

But he'd better get used to it. Like right now.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Caller of BS ()
Date: February 25, 2021 10:57PM

Red lion Wrote:
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> They were all turned over to the Manhattan DA.
> Since the DA hired an expert forensic accountant
> for this Trump investigation, we are certainly
> going to have a wild ride moving forward.

And this impacts your life how? Why do you have an erection over this ?

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Donnie is dishonest ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:02PM

Caller of BS Wrote:
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> Red lion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They were all turned over to the Manhattan DA.
> > Since the DA hired an expert forensic
> accountant
> > for this Trump investigation, we are certainly
> > going to have a wild ride moving forward.
>
> And this impacts your life how?


Because we've known since the '80s that he's a criminal, and you treat him as a Messiah and elect him President, making our entire country look like a bunch of ignorant assholes.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: ......... ()
Date: February 25, 2021 11:05PM

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: February 26, 2021 11:09AM

Here's The Real Deal Wrote:
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> His taxes are so complex, even advanced
> accountants have a hard time keeping up with:
>
> write offs, investments, deferrals, upfronts,
> adjusted gross income, casualty losses, charitable
> donations, credits, etc. etc. etc.


Donald Trump had legitimate charitable donations before he ran for president? Tell us more, please.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Guilty Pleasure ()
Date: February 26, 2021 11:20AM

Mueller's team scoured his tax returns looking for anything they could find. Probably need to get a little "creative".

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: 1m ()
Date: February 26, 2021 02:41PM

I heard there are 1 million pages to Trump's returns.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: vance ()
Date: February 26, 2021 02:51PM

> Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> criminal, and you treat him as a Messiah and elect
> him President, making our entire country look like
> a bunch of ignorant assholes.


gosh, if he's been a criminal since the '80s how did he get to be president?

why hasn't all this been brought up before???

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Lying, Corrupt, Cheating Trump ()
Date: February 26, 2021 03:04PM

vance Wrote:
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> > Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> > criminal, and you treat him as a Messiah and
> elect
> > him President, making our entire country look
> like
> > a bunch of ignorant assholes.
>
>
> gosh, if he's been a criminal since the '80s how
> did he get to be president?
>
> why hasn't all this been brought up before???

Trump to be president because everybody thought Hillary would have and easy win against a crazy person and they didn't vote.

Mueller took a look into Trump's finance and said "Holy shit... here you go NY DA."

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Red lion ()
Date: February 26, 2021 03:06PM

Guilty Pleasure Wrote:
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> Mueller's team scoured his tax returns looking for
> anything they could find. Probably need to get a
> little "creative".


Your claim is absolutely not true. Trump claimed Mueller did go through financial records, but there was no mention, good, bad, cross referenced, footnoted, or indifferent, in the report on Trump's taxes or finances.

To further show your claim is bunk, CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin wrote it in his book, "True Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Investigation of Donald Trump," neither Mueller nor the Southern District of New York had the opportunity, but decided against scrutinizing Trump's financial history despite there being questions about the president's financial ties to Russia.

Through members of Mueller's staff, Toobin learned that the special counsel forwent a financial investigation because Mueller was focused on Trump's intent, or whether he had knowledge that his actions were wrong, not a possible motive.

"Motive is related to intent, but a much broader concept," Toobin wrote. "A defendant's motive to commit a crime could include financial gain, jealous rivalry, or an unhappy childhood. When bringing a criminal case, prosecutors often find it helpful to prove a defendant's motive, but the law does not require it. It's necessary only to prove intent. Mueller's prosecutors thought Trump's financial records and tax returns went to possible motive, not intent, so they thought they didn't need the evidence."

Another reason for Mueller's hesitation was the scope of the investigation, as Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had directed him to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with" the Trump campaign.

"Mueller thought that if he tried to expand his mandate to look at Trump's possible financial misdeeds, that would look like a fishing expedition, which he was determined to avoid," Toobin wrote. "So, Mueller and his team never found out the nature, if any, of Trump's financial ties to Russia."

The U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan similarly restrained itself after Mueller's team shared information about Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen, with federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York about possible criminal activity involving a $130,000 hush-money payment to pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels, who claims to have had an affair with Trump (which he denies) and other questionable financial activity.

"Surely, the speculation went, the Southern District would use its investigation of Cohen to look into Trump's financial dealings, including his tax returns. Trump himself, who reacted with fury to the raid on his lawyer's properties, seemed to be worried about that very prospect," Toobin wrote.


"Still, what Trump didn't know, and what the breathless news coverage of the Cohen raid didn't recognize, was that the Southern District's investigation of Michael Cohen ... was an investigation of Michael Cohen. It was not, and never would be, an investigation of Donald Trump," he added.

Mueller wrapped up his two-year investigation in the spring of last year. His team concluded Russia interfered in 2016 in a “sweeping and systematic fashion," but it “did not establish” any criminal conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump campaign. The investigation did, however, lead to convictions and guilty pleas from Trump associates over charges unrelated to Russia collusion.

Mueller also laid out 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice, which Democrats saw as a road map for impeachment. Attorney General William Barr and Rosenstein concluded Trump hadn’t obstructed justice.


The hunt for Trump's financial records and tax returns, which he has refused to disclose voluntarily, remained in legal fights being waged by House Democrats and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. until now.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Trump is a horrible person ()
Date: February 26, 2021 03:07PM

vance Wrote:
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> > Because we've known since the '80s that he's a criminal,
>
>
> gosh, if he's been a criminal since the '80s how did he get to be president?



Because dopes like you got conned by him and voted for him. When all his decades of fraudulent business practices become public in the next year, I have no doubt that you will lead the chants of 'witch hunt' 'fake news' 'politically motivated' etc.

What is your attachment to that guy? He's a horrible person.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: vance ()
Date: February 26, 2021 03:36PM

Trump is a horrible person Wrote:
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> vance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> criminal,
> >
> >
> > gosh, if he's been a criminal since the '80s how
> did he get to be president?
>
>
>
> Because dopes like you got conned by him and voted
> for him. When all his decades of fraudulent
> business practices become public in the next year,
> I have no doubt that you will lead the chants of
> 'witch hunt' 'fake news' 'politically motivated'
> etc.
>
> What is your attachment to that guy? He's a
> horrible person.




i was just wondering why this didn't come up before the 2016 election.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Donald Trump is dishonest ()
Date: February 26, 2021 03:54PM

vance Wrote:
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> Trump is a horrible person Wrote:
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> i was just wondering why this didn't come up
> before the 2016 election.


It did. You didn't care then, either. You idolize DJT for some reason that is inexplicable to us. He is an example of the very worst kind of person this country produces.

And don't start that shit about we love Biden. I think President Biden has a basic decency and I hope and pray that he is a good President. There are several people I would rather have voted for.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Dementia ass clown Biden ()
Date: February 26, 2021 04:01PM

You can either love America or you can love Biden. You can't do both.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: Caller of BS ()
Date: February 26, 2021 09:10PM

Donnie is dishonest Wrote:
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> Caller of BS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Red lion Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They were all turned over to the Manhattan DA.
>
> > > Since the DA hired an expert forensic
> > accountant
> > > for this Trump investigation, we are
> certainly
> > > going to have a wild ride moving forward.
> >
> > And this impacts your life how?
>
>
> Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> criminal, and you treat him as a Messiah and elect
> him President, making our entire country look like
> a bunch of ignorant assholes.

See here libtard: I don’t think Trump is a messiah. Far from it. But I also don’t spend every minute of my day thinking about him. I, unlike you, have a life and have other things to do than obsess over Donald Trump. May I suggest you have secret homosexual thoughts about him?

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: We found the gay ()
Date: February 26, 2021 09:16PM

Caller of BS Wrote:
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> Donnie is dishonest Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Caller of BS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Red lion Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > They were all turned over to the Manhattan
> DA.
> >
> > > > Since the DA hired an expert forensic
> > > accountant
> > > > for this Trump investigation, we are
> > certainly
> > > > going to have a wild ride moving forward.
> > >
> > > And this impacts your life how?
> >
> >
> > Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> > criminal, and you treat him as a Messiah and
> elect
> > him President, making our entire country look
> like
> > a bunch of ignorant assholes.
>
> See here libtard: I don’t think Trump is a
> messiah. Far from it. But I also don’t spend
> every minute of my day thinking about him. I,
> unlike you, have a life and have other things to
> do than obsess over Donald Trump. May I suggest
> you have secret homosexual thoughts about him?


That you mentioned secret homosexual without anyone mentioning before it is a clear sign that you are light in the loafers

Have you told your parents yet?

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: probably better sit this one out ()
Date: February 26, 2021 09:32PM

Red lion Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Guilty Pleasure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mueller's team scoured his tax returns looking
> for
> > anything they could find. Probably need to get
> a
> > little "creative".
>
>
> Your claim is absolutely not true. Trump claimed
> Mueller did go through financial records, but
> there was no mention, good, bad, cross referenced,
> footnoted, or indifferent, in the report on
> Trump's taxes or finances.
>
> To further show your claim is bunk, CNN legal
> analyst Jeffrey Toobin wrote it in his book, "True
> Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Investigation of
> Donald Trump," neither Mueller nor the Southern
> District of New York had the opportunity, but
> decided against scrutinizing Trump's financial
> history despite there being questions about the
> president's financial ties to Russia.
>
> Through members of Mueller's staff, Toobin learned
> that the special counsel forwent a financial
> investigation because Mueller was focused on
> Trump's intent, or whether he had knowledge that
> his actions were wrong, not a possible motive.
>
> "Motive is related to intent, but a much broader
> concept," Toobin wrote. "A defendant's motive to
> commit a crime could include financial gain,
> jealous rivalry, or an unhappy childhood. When
> bringing a criminal case, prosecutors often find
> it helpful to prove a defendant's motive, but the
> law does not require it. It's necessary only to
> prove intent. Mueller's prosecutors thought
> Trump's financial records and tax returns went to
> possible motive, not intent, so they thought they
> didn't need the evidence."
>
> Another reason for Mueller's hesitation was the
> scope of the investigation, as Deputy Attorney
> General Rod Rosenstein had directed him to
> investigate "any links and/or coordination between
> the Russian government and individuals associated
> with" the Trump campaign.
>
> "Mueller thought that if he tried to expand his
> mandate to look at Trump's possible financial
> misdeeds, that would look like a fishing
> expedition, which he was determined to avoid,"
> Toobin wrote. "So, Mueller and his team never
> found out the nature, if any, of Trump's financial
> ties to Russia."
>
> The U.S. attorney's office in Manhattan similarly
> restrained itself after Mueller's team shared
> information about Trump's former fixer, Michael
> Cohen, with federal prosecutors in the Southern
> District of New York about possible criminal
> activity involving a $130,000 hush-money payment
> to pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels, who
> claims to have had an affair with Trump (which he
> denies) and other questionable financial
> activity.
>
> "Surely, the speculation went, the Southern
> District would use its investigation of Cohen to
> look into Trump's financial dealings, including
> his tax returns. Trump himself, who reacted with
> fury to the raid on his lawyer's properties,
> seemed to be worried about that very prospect,"
> Toobin wrote.
>
>
> "Still, what Trump didn't know, and what the
> breathless news coverage of the Cohen raid didn't
> recognize, was that the Southern District's
> investigation of Michael Cohen ... was an
> investigation of Michael Cohen. It was not, and
> never would be, an investigation of Donald Trump,"
> he added.
>
> Mueller wrapped up his two-year investigation in
> the spring of last year. His team concluded Russia
> interfered in 2016 in a “sweeping and systematic
> fashion," but it “did not establish” any
> criminal conspiracy between the Russians and the
> Trump campaign. The investigation did, however,
> lead to convictions and guilty pleas from Trump
> associates over charges unrelated to Russia
> collusion.
>
> Mueller also laid out 10 instances of possible
> obstruction of justice, which Democrats saw as a
> road map for impeachment. Attorney General William
> Barr and Rosenstein concluded Trump hadn’t
> obstructed justice.
>
>
> The hunt for Trump's financial records and tax
> returns, which he has refused to disclose
> voluntarily, remained in legal fights being waged
> by House Democrats and Manhattan District Attorney
> Cyrus R. Vance Jr. until now.


Dude, you literally quoted Jeffrey Toobin lol.

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: It's Complicated ()
Date: February 26, 2021 09:45PM

Trump is a horrible person Wrote:
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> vance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Because we've known since the '80s that he's a
> criminal,
> >
> >
> > gosh, if he's been a criminal since the '80s how
> did he get to be president?
>
>
>
> Because dopes like you got conned by him and voted
> for him. When all his decades of fraudulent
> business practices become public in the next year,
> I have no doubt that you will lead the chants of
> 'witch hunt' 'fake news' 'politically motivated'
> etc.
>
> What is your attachment to that guy? He's a
> horrible person.


He's a total dick. But he's a great President. What can ya do?

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Re: Cy Vance has Trump's tax returns right now!
Posted by: village idiot ()
Date: February 26, 2021 10:12PM

Trump is gone, let it go. Time to move on with your lives. I've never understood this obsession/hatred people have. Why would you give someone so much power to dominate your every thought?

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