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Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: HooLeo ()
Date: May 23, 2010 04:15PM

The NERVE of these people!:)

Arizona Seeks to Reassign Heavily Accented Teachers

By Casey Stegall

- FOXNews.com

After passing the nation's toughest immigration law, Arizona's school officials are now cracking down on teachers with heavy accents.



After passing the nation's toughest state immigration enforcement law, Arizona's school officials are now cracking down on teachers with heavy accents.

The Arizona Department of Education is sending evaluators to audit teachers and their English speaking skills to make sure districts are complying with state and federal laws.

Teachers who are not fluent in English, have a heavy accent or do not speak grammatically correct will be temporarily reassigned.

"As you expect science teachers to know science, math teachers to know math, you expect a teacher who is teaching the kids English to know English," said Tom Home, state superintendent of public instruction.

In 2000, voters passed a referendum which stipulated that instruction of these classes be offered only in English. Then in 2003, President Bush's No Child Left Behind act stated schools couldn't receive federal funding unless an English teacher was totally fluent in the language.

For the most part, the state is in compliance, but not all teachers are up to standards. Of the 236 total districts in the state, nine were cited for not being in compliance with fluency regulation this year.

Critics say with deep cuts to education thanks to the failing economy, the state should focus elsewhere. The Arizona Education Association, a union representing some 34,000 teachers, refused speak to Fox News.

Of the 1.2 million students in Arizona public schools, roughly 150,000 are learning English as a second language.

"It's my jobs to make sure they're taught English in the most rigorous, possible way so they can learn English quickly, can compete with their peers, and succeed academically," Home told Fox News.

The state says this move has nothing to do with the new law that requires police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are in the United States illegally.

In Creighton School District, 35 percent of students are "second language learners," said Superintendent Charlotte Boyle.

"In Creighton's school district, we do have several teachers who do not pass the fluency test," she said.

"For the past several years, we have provided opportunities for those teachers to increase their fluency," she said. "We have enrolled them in community college
classes. We also have classes within our district for those teachers."

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Honduran Pride ()
Date: May 23, 2010 04:33PM

Racism in its purest form. When white people become the minority, they will regret how they treated the true patriots of America.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: AlmightyDollar ()
Date: May 23, 2010 04:52PM

Honduran Pride Wrote:
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> Racism in its purest form. When white people
> become the minority, they will regret how they
> treated the true patriots of America.

The teachers do not get paid in Peso's.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 23, 2010 05:06PM

I think the heavy accents thing is bullshit but, other than that, this sounds very reasonable...

Signatures are for fags

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Tigerstyle ()
Date: May 23, 2010 05:33PM

Fuck, I wish they'd do this for every subject. Do it for colleges too. It's a pain in the ass trying to learn statistics or something from a person you'd have trouble understanding talk about the weather.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: I am Spunky ()
Date: May 23, 2010 06:37PM

My kids completed their high school years in Fairfax County schools after attending schools throughout the world. It wasn't until arriving in Fairfax did my kids complain about this issue. It is hard enough taking AP classes and struggle to understand your instructor/teacher when you are living in the US. This is a real concern for Arizona and melting pots around the US.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 23, 2010 06:44PM

The accent issue is stupid because foreigners aren't the only ones with accents...

How can you avoid favoring some accents but not others? We would need to define which accent is "real" English and I don't see that ending well...

Try telling a Texan that he can't teach English because of his heavy accent...

It's a completely different story if the fucking foreigner can't conjugate verbs, spell, or use proper grammar and syntax.

Leave the accents alone... I can't believe how stupid people are sometimes...

Signatures are for fags

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: FoolSmacker ()
Date: May 23, 2010 06:46PM

> Teachers who are not fluent in English, have a heavy accent or do not speak grammatically correct will be temporarily reassigned.

Ironic.

What about reporters who do not write grammatically correct... uhh... correctly?

Despite what we might hear on the interwebs, spelling and grammar do matter. If your teachers use incorrect grammar, you are going to learn incorrect grammar.

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Who knows from whence he came, and who knows where he goes, dot dot dot.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Kenny_Powers ()
Date: May 23, 2010 07:44PM

Honduran Pride Wrote:
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> Racism in its purest form. When white people
> become the minority, they will regret how they
> treated the true patriots of America.


yea you say that now, tell me that again when you take a class with someone that can bearly grasp the english language and you cant understand a word they are saying. When your job is to COMMUNICATE INFORMATION, it should be required to be fluent in that language

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: May 23, 2010 10:06PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> The accent issue is stupid because foreigners
> aren't the only ones with accents...
>
> How can you avoid favoring some accents but not
> others? We would need to define which accent is
> "real" English and I don't see that ending
> well...
>
> Try telling a Texan that he can't teach English
> because of his heavy accent...
>
> It's a completely different story if the fucking
> foreigner can't conjugate verbs, spell, or use
> proper grammar and syntax.
>
> Leave the accents alone... I can't believe how
> stupid people are sometimes...


Have you ever heard someone speak with a heavy Paki or Indian accent? Even my Indian friend can't understand them half of the time.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:39AM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> The accent issue is stupid because foreigners
> aren't the only ones with accents...
>
> How can you avoid favoring some accents but not
> others? We would need to define which accent is
> "real" English and I don't see that ending
> well...


it's already been done. it's called a neutral accent. in the case of the US it's referred to as "General American".

if you dont believe me, feel free to check out this info from ucla. http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/vowels/contents.html



> Try telling a Texan that he can't teach English
> because of his heavy accent...


that would be awesome! :D


> It's a completely different story if the fucking
> foreigner can't conjugate verbs, spell, or use
> proper grammar and syntax.
>
> Leave the accents alone... I can't believe how
> stupid people are sometimes...


dude... indian accents can be REALLY hard to understand. i've also have difficulty understanding deep russian accents.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Britdrnva~ ()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:24AM

I've got a heavy accent albeit an English one. Americans generally understand me just fine - but under this sort of law I'd be discriminated upon.

I think this law is all a very slippery slope and shouldn't be allowed. As long as you have a fluent grasp of the language, one shouldn't be punished for not being from the area and this is exactly what this sort of law establishes. It's backwards thinking and very un-American.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: The Sculler ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:19AM

Honduran Pride Wrote:
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> Racism in its purest form. When white people
> become the minority, they will regret how they
> treated the true patriots of America.

Aahhh, yes. True patriots, indeed:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=104&sid=1964444

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: YankeeDoodle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:19AM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> I've got a heavy accent albeit an English one.
> Americans generally understand me just fine - but
> under this sort of law I'd be discriminated upon.
>
> I think this law is all a very slippery slope and
> shouldn't be allowed. As long as you have a
> fluent grasp of the language, one shouldn't be
> punished for not being from the area and this is
> exactly what this sort of law establishes. It's
> backwards thinking and very un-American.

You do not decide what is "un-American". We taught you that lesson during
the Revolutionary War. If you don't like America, get your ass out!

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Britdrnva~ ()
Date: May 25, 2010 11:47AM

I am as American as you YankeeDoodle - not by birth certainly but naturalised. To know your country - it is made up every nationality, a heterogeneous mix of the best kind - it is the very essence of what makes America so great. To turn inwards and only think of some sort of utopian anglo-centric America paints you as ignorant and bigoted.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:16PM

Clear communication is an essential part of conveying thoughts, concepts, and ideas (also known as "teaching"). Being fluent in English and speaking it clearly are two different things.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:31PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> I've got a heavy accent albeit an English one.
> Americans generally understand me just fine - but
> under this sort of law I'd be discriminated upon.
>
> I think this law is all a very slippery slope and
> shouldn't be allowed. As long as you have a
> fluent grasp of the language, one shouldn't be
> punished for not being from the area and this is
> exactly what this sort of law establishes. It's
> backwards thinking and very un-American.

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Teachers who are not fluent in English, have a heavy accent or do not speak grammatically correct will be temporarily reassigned.

"As you expect science teachers to know science, math teachers to know math, you expect a teacher who is teaching the kids English to know English," said Tom Home, state superintendent of public instruction.

I don't see anything here that would affect you other than if you are teaching an English course, it would have to be American and not the King's English (so to speak). But this applies to any teacher, even those that are Americans from birth - there are quite a few places in our country that you cannot understand folks. As a Brit you would most likely not have any issue though.

Nothing un-American about this law or requirement at all. Complex subjects or business discussions need to have clear understanding. If the teacher cannot communicate effectively, the class is going to have lower than average scores just based on the fact that the kids will tune out what they don't understand. I had a lot of college courses like that - professors from India were notoriously hard to understand back in the 1980s.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/25/2010 12:36PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Britdrnva~ ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:32PM

So someone like Stephen Hawking who can't speak very clearly (it's hard to understand that bloody computer) should therefore be banned from teaching. Albert Einstein who had a thick accent - he too would have been banned.

Myriads of people from all over the world that are brilliant in mind but have thick or even somewhat accented English would be banned from teaching.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:34PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> So someone like Stephen Hawking who can't speak
> very clearly (it's hard to understand that bloody
> computer) should therefore be banned from
> teaching. Albert Einstein who had a thick accent
> - he too would have been banned.
>
> Myriads of people from all over the world that are
> brilliant in mind but have thick or even somewhat
> accented English would be banned from teaching.

It says "temporarily re-assigned" doesn't it? Hawking teaches some highly advanced courses and you would only get seriously motivated students to go and take them. They would know what they were getting into beforehand.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:35PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> So someone like Stephen Hawking who can't speak
> very clearly (it's hard to understand that bloody
> computer) should therefore be banned from
> teaching. Albert Einstein who had a thick accent
> - he too would have been banned.
>
> Myriads of people from all over the world that are
> brilliant in mind but have thick or even somewhat
> accented English would be banned from teaching.


This post is so LOL that I can't even stand it...
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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 25, 2010 12:42PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> So someone like Stephen Hawking who can't speak
> very clearly (it's hard to understand that bloody
> computer) should therefore be banned from
> teaching. Albert Einstein who had a thick accent
> - he too would have been banned.
>
> Myriads of people from all over the world that are
> brilliant in mind but have thick or even somewhat
> accented English would be banned from teaching.

The original article implies that this measure applies to English teachers. It doesn't mention any specific subject other than English. In that regard, I don't see a problem with making sure that kids are being taught by people who speak proper English. Similarly, I think it would be more beneficial to kids if they were taught Spanish by someone whose first language is Spanish.

To answer your question, though... No. I wouldn't want Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein teaching my kid English in high school. If my kid was being taught advanced physics in college by Einstein, and complained that he couldn't understand him, I'd tell my kid to clean his ears out and listen closer.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 25, 2010 01:12PM

Britdrnva~ Wrote:
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> So someone like Stephen Hawking who can't speak
> very clearly (it's hard to understand that bloody
> computer) should therefore be banned from
> teaching.


he has a human interpreter when teaching. yes, someone can actually understand what he's saying when he doesnt use the computer to talk but it took a couple years for him to learn how to.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 04:53PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> it's already been done. it's called a neutral
> accent. in the case of the US it's referred to as
> "General American".

Cool... Does this law mention the neutral, General American, accent?


> if you dont believe me, feel free to check out
> this info from ucla.
> http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/vowels/contents.html

I didn't explore every nook and/or cranny, but I didn't find any information on a neutral accent in that link.


> > Try telling a Texan that he can't teach English
> > because of his heavy accent...
>
> that would be awesome! :D

That would be... As long as this law applies to ALL "heavy accents", import and domestic, I won't have as much problem with it. I have a sneaking suspicion that it will only apply to the "exotic" accents.


> dude... indian accents can be REALLY hard to
> understand. i've also have difficulty
> understanding deep russian accents.

Sure, but like you said with the Hawking example, people can learn to understand them... It may even make them better people, in the long run.


Edit to add: Have you ever heard someone from the Dirty South speak English? THAT'S REALLLLLY hard to understand.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Irony Watch ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:11PM

Kenny_Powers Wrote:
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> someone that can bearly grasp the english language...
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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:19PM

Is that ironic or apt?

Irony Watch Wrote:
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> Kenny_Powers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > someone that can bearly grasp the english
> language...

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 25, 2010 05:35PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Is that ironic or apt?

It's neither. I think it would be classified as a spelling error, at most.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Irony Watch ()
Date: May 25, 2010 06:09PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I think it would be classified as a spelling error, at most.


It would be classified as a spelling error, at least.

When, however, that error is made in the context of complaining about "someone that can bearly grasp the english language," it stumbles ingloriously into the pit of irony.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 06:57PM

love... Love... LOVE the bear graphic... He makes stumbling ingloriously look GOOD!

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 25, 2010 07:40PM

Irony Watch Wrote:
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> When, however, that error is made in the context
> of complaining about "someone that can bearly
> grasp the english language," it stumbles
> ingloriously into the pit of irony.

Dude, you are clearly an expert.

^^^^ See, what I just said there was ironic; I used words in a sentence to convey the opposite of what was actually said (which is called "irony"). Harry Tuttle Kenny Powers misspelling a word when talking about the correct use of English is "an amusing coincidence."

Now, if Harry Tuttle Kenny Powers had said, "I think having ESL teachers instructing students how to speak English is the best idea I've ever heard," that would be in the ironic pit thing you mentioned.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:13PM

Thank you for thinking of me, but my spelling is always emaculate... Kenny Powers is the person whom stumbled headlong into that dank pit of irony.
[immaculate is spelled "emaculate" on purpose... is that irony?]
MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Dude, you are clearly an expert.
>
> ^^^^ See, what I just said there was ironic; I
> used words in a sentence to convey the opposite of
> what was actually said (which is called "irony").
> Harry Tuttle misspelling a word when talking about
> the correct use of English is "an amusing
> coincidence."
>
> Now, if Harry Tuttle had said, "I think having ESL
> teachers instructing students how to speak English
> is the best idea I've ever heard," that would be
> in the ironic pit thing you mentioned.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:22PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Thank you for thinking of me, but my spelling is
> always emaculate... Kenny Powers is the person
> whom stumbled headlong into that dank pit of
> irony.

Oops. As you can see, my reading comprehension is top-notch and high-speed.

...

That's more irony.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Irony Watch ()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:44PM

In wrestling this matter to the ground I feel I'm treading near, if not already fallen into, the pit of pedantry, where I'm loathe to reside.

So I'll leave my remarks to stand on their merit, or lack thereof, and bid this dispute adieu.



Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> love... Love... LOVE the bear graphic... He makes
> stumbling ingloriously look GOOD!

STFU eesh!

You know the only kind of graphics you "love... Love... LOVE" are BARE ones.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 08:57PM

Love ya, buddy... Sorry I haven't called in a while... I've just been SUPER SWAMPED lately...

Maybe we could do lunch this weekend!?

Irony Watch Wrote:
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> In wrestling this matter to the ground I feel I'm
> treading near, if not already fallen into, the pit
> of pedantry, where I'm loathe to reside.
>
> So I'll leave my remarks to stand on their merit,
> or lack thereof, and bid this dispute adieu.
>
>
>
> Harry Tuttle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > love... Love... LOVE the bear graphic... He
> makes
> > stumbling ingloriously look GOOD!
>
> STFU eesh!
>
> You know the only kind of graphics you "love...
> Love... LOVE" are BARE ones.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:00PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > it's already been done. it's called a neutral
> > accent. in the case of the US it's referred to
> as
> > "General American".
>
> Cool... Does this law mention the neutral, General
> American, accent?


who gives a fuck?


> > if you dont believe me, feel free to check out
> > this info from ucla.
> >
> http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/vowels/contents.html
>
>
> I didn't explore every nook and/or cranny, but I
> didn't find any information on a neutral accent in
> that link.


here it is: http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/vowels/chapter3/amengvowels.html


> That would be... As long as this law applies to
> ALL "heavy accents", import and domestic, I won't
> have as much problem with it. I have a sneaking
> suspicion that it will only apply to the "exotic"
> accents.


the idea is to be able to communicate with the children. cry me a river if it's only weeding out people that are difficult to understand which was the whole fucking point of the law.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:09PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> Harry Tuttle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gravis Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > it's already been done. it's called a
> neutral
> > > accent. in the case of the US it's referred
> to
> > as
> > > "General American".
> >
> > Cool... Does this law mention the neutral,
> General
> > American, accent?
>
> who gives a fuck?

Something tells me this was a rhetorical question... I think it's obvious that I give a fuck. I don't like the idea of only one "PROPER" way to speak English... This "no accent" rule scares me with its potential energy.

>
> here it is:
> http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/vowels/chapter3/amen
> gvowels.html

Thanks, bra...


> the idea is to be able to communicate with the
> children. cry me a river if it's only weeding out
> people that are difficult to understand which was
> the whole fucking point of the law.

My point is that some American accents are hard to understand. If you're going to make such a stupid rule, I hope it applies to every "heavy accent"...

Signatures are for fags



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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 25, 2010 09:31PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> I think it's obvious that I give a fuck.


i'm sure it's going to impact your life deeply. stop worrying about that possible outcomes that you have no control over because you are just wasting your energy.


> I don't like the idea of only one "PROPER"
> way to speak English...


you either say it like it's phonetically spelled out in every dictionary that's worth a damn or you are not saying the word properly.


> This "no accent" rule
> scares me with its potential energy.


wuss. the "worst" possible outcome would be that only people native to the area are allowed to teach english. whoopdefuckingdo.


> My point is that some American accents are hard to
> understand. If you're going to make such a stupid
> rule, I hope it applies to every "heavy accent"...


i understand you point and im saying it doesnt mean jack shit if people can understand each other fluently. the idea is to be able to communicate.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Irony Watch, Deathtrap Division? ()
Date: May 25, 2010 10:26PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> Love ya, buddy... Sorry I haven't called in a
> while... I've just been SUPER SWAMPED lately...

Not so swamped, it seems, that you haven't had time for your buddy eesh, and blisters, and Miz, and Mephisto, not to mention the careful nurturing and cultivation of numerous new, albeit only marginally amusing personas.

file.php?40,file=19059,filename=TuttleSw
Tuttle "swamped"


> Maybe we could do lunch this weekend!?

Haven't you toyed with my affections enough?

How many broken hearts have you left in your wake, Mr. Tuttle?

Moreover, in the strange, dark world of Tuttle - TuttleBog, if you will - the seemingly innocent word "lunch" is cloaked in gaslit shadows, conjuring up certain familiar narratives, Jeffrey Dahmer, John "Wayne" Gotti and Albert Fish among them.

It is not a stretch, it seems to me, to conclude that the last of these was your spiritual predecessor, and you his present-day doppleganger.

Heaven forfend that I should share in the fate of dear little Grace Budd, to whose parents you cheerfully sketched her final hours:

I took her to an empty house in Fairfax I had already picked out. When we got there, I told her to remain outside while I prepared a decanter of sweet tea. She picked wildflowers. I went upstairs and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I did not I would get her blood on them. When all was ready I went to the window and called her. Then I hid in a closet until she was in the room. When she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried to run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mamma. First I stripped her naked. How she did kick – bite and scratch. I choked her to death, then cut her in small pieces so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and eat it... It took me 9 days to eat her entire body.

"Lunch," you say?

With all due respect, I think I'll pass.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Officer Friendly ()
Date: May 25, 2010 10:38PM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
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> This "no accent" rule scares me with its potential energy.

Now that's a nice, arbitrary law I could really sink my teeth into.

Trust me, boys, I'll be able to pick out all the undesirables with their "heavy" accents and send 'em packin' right quick.

Yeah, come to think of it, I suspect every arrogant boot-struttin, pony-tail wearin punk I've ever seen has a heavy accent, sho nuff.

Heavy to my ear, that is -- the only ear that matters.

Haw haw.

Cheers, fellas.

Be seein ya.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Harry Tuttle ()
Date: May 25, 2010 11:02PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> i'm sure it's going to impact your life deeply.
> stop worrying about that possible outcomes that
> you have no control over because you are just
> wasting your energy.

Are you well, Gravman? It's not like you to make assumptions...


> you either say it like it's phonetically spelled
> out in every dictionary that's worth a damn or you
> are not saying the word properly.

Then why are there so many variations of the language?


> wuss.

Assumptions AND name calling? What's going on here?

> the "worst" possible outcome would be that
> only people native to the area are allowed to
> teach english. whoopdefuckingdo.

Is that really the worst outcome you can come up with?


> i understand you point and im saying it doesnt
> mean jack shit if people can understand each other
> fluently. the idea is to be able to communicate.

So if people understand an "IMPROPER" version of English, you're ok with that?






Irony Watch, Deathtrap Division? Wrote:
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> Not so swamped, it seems, that you haven't had
> time for your buddy eesh, and blisters, and Miz,
> and Mephisto,

Ah, jealousy... It brings out the hypnotic amber hues in your eyes!

> not to mention the careful nurturing
> and cultivation of numerous new, albeit only
> marginally amusing personas.

Come on, baby, you can't really believe all that nonsense...

>
>
> Tuttle "swamped"

See... this is why you're the only one for me...

>
>
> > Maybe we could do lunch this weekend!?
>
> Haven't you toyed with my affections enough?

Igualmente?

>
> How many broken hearts have you left in your wake,
> Mr. Tuttle?

This is an all too familiar topic of discussion in the life of the man behind the great Tuttle name...

It's like you're reading my mind... Your mystery is still, fully, intact, my dear...

>
> Moreover, in the strange, dark world of Tuttle -
> TuttleBog,

BULLSEYE!


> if you will - the seemingly innocent
> word "lunch" is cloaked in gaslit shadows,
> conjuring up certain familiar narratives, Jeffrey
> Dahmer, John "Wayne" Gotti and Albert Fish among
> them.

Love it.

>
> It is not a stretch, it seems to me, to conclude
> that the last of these was your spiritual
> predecessor, and you his present-day
> doppleganger.

Love it.

>
> Heaven forfend

Bonus points...

> that I should share in the fate of
> dear little Grace Budd, to whose parents you
> cheerfully sketched her final hours:
>
> I took her to an empty house in Fairfax I had
> already picked out. When we got there, I told her
> to remain outside while I prepared a decanter of
> sweet tea. She picked wildflowers. I went upstairs
> and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I did
> not I would get her blood on them. When all was
> ready I went to the window and called her. Then I
> hid in a closet until she was in the room. When
> she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried to
> run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said
> she would tell her mamma. First I stripped her
> naked. How she did kick – bite and scratch. I
> choked her to death, then cut her in small pieces
> so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and eat
> it... It took me 9 days to eat her entire body.

OMG I LOVE IT...

>
> "Lunch," you say?
>
> With all due respect, I think I'll pass.

It really is a shame I got out of the critic business... Ever since that "free haiku" pirate literature, the Tuttle Rating System (TRS) has lost its value... I can't complain really, I saw it coming.

I can assure you, however, this work of art (Of course, I'd have to get Mr. Misery to approve this use of the word "art") would definitely earn a respectable number of Tuttles...

I don't care what you think, you have not lost your mojo...






Officer Friendly Wrote:
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> Now that's a nice, arbitrary law I could really
> sink my teeth into.
>
> Trust me, boys, I'll be able to pick out all the
> undesirables with their "heavy" accents and send
> 'em packin' right quick.
>
> Yeah, come to think of it, I suspect every
> arrogant boot-struttin, pony-tail wearin punk I've
> ever seen has a heavy accent, sho nuff.
>
> Heavy to my ear, that is -- the only ear that
> matters.
>
> Haw haw.
>
> Cheers, fellas.
>
> Be seein ya.

EXACTLY!!!

Signatures are for fags

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: May 26, 2010 02:40AM

Harry Tuttle Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Irony Watch, Deathtrap Division? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not so swamped, it seems, that you haven't had
> > time for your buddy eesh, and blisters, and
> Miz,
> > and Mephisto,
>
> Ah, jealousy... It brings out the hypnotic amber
> hues in your eyes!
>
> > not to mention the careful nurturing
> > and cultivation of numerous new, albeit only
> > marginally amusing personas.
>
> Come on, baby, you can't really believe all that
> nonsense...
>
> >
> > Tuttle "swamped"
>
> See... this is why you're the only one for me...
>

> > > Maybe we could do lunch this weekend!?
> >
> > Haven't you toyed with my affections enough?
>
> Igualmente?
>
> >
> > How many broken hearts have you left in your
> wake,
> > Mr. Tuttle?
>
> This is an all too familiar topic of discussion in
> the life of the man behind the great Tuttle
> name...
>
> It's like you're reading my mind... Your mystery
> is still, fully, intact, my dear...
>
> >
> > Moreover, in the strange, dark world of Tuttle
> -
> > TuttleBog,
>
> BULLSEYE!
>
>
> > if you will - the seemingly innocent
> > word "lunch" is cloaked in gaslit shadows,
> > conjuring up certain familiar narratives,
> Jeffrey
> > Dahmer, John "Wayne" Gotti and Albert Fish
> among
> > them.
>
> Love it.
>
> >
> > It is not a stretch, it seems to me, to
> conclude
> > that the last of these was your spiritual
> > predecessor, and you his present-day
> > doppleganger.
>
> Love it.
>
> >
> > Heaven forfend
>
> Bonus points...
>
> > that I should share in the fate of
> > dear little Grace Budd, to whose parents you
> > cheerfully sketched her final hours:
> >
> > I took her to an empty house in Fairfax I had
> > already picked out. When we got there, I told
> her
> > to remain outside while I prepared a decanter
> of
> > sweet tea. She picked wildflowers. I went
> upstairs
> > and stripped all my clothes off. I knew if I
> did
> > not I would get her blood on them. When all was
> > ready I went to the window and called her. Then
> I
> > hid in a closet until she was in the room. When
> > she saw me all naked she began to cry and tried
> to
> > run down the stairs. I grabbed her and she said
> > she would tell her mamma. First I stripped her
> > naked. How she did kick – bite and scratch. I
> > choked her to death, then cut her in small
> pieces
> > so I could take my meat to my rooms. Cook and
> eat
> > it... It took me 9 days to eat her entire body.
>
> OMG I LOVE IT...
>

Accents aside, who wouldn't love it?

For your next chapter:

Why did it take 9 days to eat her body?

Anorexia or bulimia?

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: May 26, 2010 02:52AM


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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Elle Diabla ()
Date: May 26, 2010 10:29AM

Honduran Pride Wrote:
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> Racism in its purest form. When white people
> become the minority, they will regret how they
> treated the true patriots of America.

Shut your illegal ass up.

Unless it's spanish class in the US, teachers should be speaking english and no other language.


All of these beaners are getting pretty demanding nowadays.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/2010 10:31AM by Elle Diabla.

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: DTMF ()
Date: May 26, 2010 11:33AM

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> Honduran Pride Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Racism in its purest form. When white people
> > become the minority, they will regret how they
> > treated the true patriots of America.
>
> Shut your illegal ass up.
>
> Unless it's spanish class in the US, teachers
> should be speaking english and no other language.
>
>
>
> All of these beaners are getting pretty demanding
> nowadays.

Agreed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0

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Re: Arizona English teachers required to speak English!!
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: May 26, 2010 09:17PM

egalitarian buzzard?

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