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how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: serious question for morono ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:12PM

lizzie's more of a man than you'll ever be
shes doin somethin you can only dream of
you should be happy you made this happen :)
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Constitution hall ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:28PM

I can help out Moreno here, or any one feeling like a loser,
I fell in love 22 years ago, started snorting coke due to rejection, even all Coked out, and living on the road, and being a strung out junkie, I still found a way to write her, only getting a reply 2 times in 22 years.
Who is Morenos love anyway, Lizzie?
Just remember this, eesh may not agree, but there is NO SUBSTITUTION FOR TRUE LOVE, NONE, even eesh’s lust of 12 inch black cranks, even that doesn’t conquer TRUE love

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique doesn't love William LOL ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:33PM

Constitution hall Wrote:
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> Who is Morenos love anyway, Lizzie?






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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: what the flying fucking hell?!!? ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:44PM

Constitution hall Wrote:
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> I can help out Moreno here, or any one feeling
> like a loser,
> I fell in love 22 years ago, started snorting coke
> due to rejection, even all Coked out, and living
> on the road, and being a strung out junkie, I
> still found a way to write her, only getting a
> reply 2 times in 22 years.
> Who is Morenos love anyway, Lizzie?
> Just remember this, eesh may not agree, but there
> is NO SUBSTITUTION FOR TRUE LOVE, NONE, even
> eesh’s lust of 12 inch black cranks, even that
> doesn’t conquer TRUE love

how's this story supposed to cheer anybody up?!?!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Yeah u right ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:55PM

what the flying fucking hell?!!? Wrote:
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> Constitution hall Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I can help out Moreno here, or any one feeling
> > like a loser,
> > I fell in love 22 years ago, started snorting
> coke
> > due to rejection, even all Coked out, and
> living
> > on the road, and being a strung out junkie, I
> > still found a way to write her, only getting a
> > reply 2 times in 22 years.
> > Who is Morenos love anyway, Lizzie?
> > Just remember this, eesh may not agree, but
> there
> > is NO SUBSTITUTION FOR TRUE LOVE, NONE, even
> > eesh’s lust of 12 inch black cranks, even
> that
> > doesn’t conquer TRUE love
>
> how's this story supposed to cheer anybody up?!?!

Sorry, I’m drunk.
And stupid, and. Or you made me depressed!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: dont be depressed man ()
Date: September 18, 2020 07:58PM

no really am asking because maybe the point went over my head? are you saying to do drugs to numb the pain? miz does enough drugs and it hasnt stopped his pain.

sorry that chick did that to you. but someone like miz deserves what he is getting now. you cant send someone to jail and then realize later that you want them back because you see that no one else wants you or you see them happy.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Cmdn98 ()
Date: September 18, 2020 08:13PM

dont be depressed man Wrote:
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> no really am asking because maybe the point went
> over my head? are you saying to do drugs to numb
> the pain? miz does enough drugs and it hasnt
> stopped his pain.
>
> sorry that chick did that to you. but someone like
> miz deserves what he is getting now. you cant send
> someone to jail and then realize later that you
> want them back because you see that no one else
> wants you or you see them happy.

I was a jock, never did drugs, after meeting this girl and her not wanting me, I was introduced to drugs, drug addiction for me had stages, at first it was social, then it turned anti social, the drugs helped me forget somewhat, or care less, but I still contacted this person while living on the road, after being sober, and in and relationship, I started thinking about her more often.
So yes drugs helped, temporary, but in the long run, NO

I didn’t just say, this girl doesn’t want me, so I’m snorting coke every day for the best 7-8 years, it was the job and the people at my job that made drugs accessible, if i didn’t have this job, at that time, i probably wounldnt have used drugs

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Cmdn98 ()
Date: September 18, 2020 08:16PM

dont be depressed man Wrote:
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> no really am asking because maybe the point went
> over my head? are you saying to do drugs to numb
> the pain? miz does enough drugs and it hasnt
> stopped his pain.
>
> sorry that chick did that to you. but someone like
> miz deserves what he is getting now. you cant send
> someone to jail and then realize later that you
> want them back because you see that no one else
> wants you or you see them happy.


Oh and, I could never send this person onto jail. I’m sure this girl is 10x more stable than Lizzie and would know better to react violently, but if any thing bad that would happen with her, I would just blame myself.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: roadie ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:07PM

Cmdn98 Wrote:
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> I was a jock, never did drugs, after meeting this
> girl and her not wanting me, I was introduced to
> drugs, drug addiction for me had stages, at first
> it was social, then it turned anti social, the
> drugs helped me forget somewhat, or care less, but
> I still contacted this person while living on the
> road, after being sober, and in and relationship,
> I started thinking about her more often.
> So yes drugs helped, temporary, but in the long
> run, NO

dont know much about drugs but it seems like that is usually how it goes. social to anti social. guess its understandable that you wanted to forget. but why do you think you started thinking about her more after you got into a relationship?

> I didn’t just say, this girl doesn’t want me,
> so I’m snorting coke every day for the best 7-8
> years, it was the job and the people at my job
> that made drugs accessible, if i didn’t have
> this job, at that time, i probably wounldnt have
> used drugs

what was the job? roady?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: fool ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:08PM

Cmdn98 Wrote:
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> Oh and, I could never send this person onto jail.
> I’m sure this girl is 10x more stable than
> Lizzie and would know better to react violently,
> but if any thing bad that would happen with her, I
> would just blame myself.

real men dont put chicks in jail. he shoulda just hit her in the fact. sure she would have actually respected him more. fuck all that dont hit a woman shit. if someone hits you hit them back. period.

they probably would have kissed and made up and been fucking later on that night like any other abusive couple does. miz was a fool through and through.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz fucked up ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:16PM

A murder-suicide would have been perfect. It would have been a nice poetic ending to the MCF's reign of terror. Surely Miz could have figured out a way to either kill lizzie with his Little League bat, or provoke the cops into killing them both in a hail of bullets.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: miz doesnt want to die ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:18PM

morono doesnt actually really want to die. he just wants the pain of being single to stop. but it will never stop.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Ghost of Nicole Mittendorff ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:23PM

fool Wrote:
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> Cmdn98 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> real men dont put chicks in jail.

Real men END chicks that get out of line. A real man will find a way to snuff the bitch and get away with it. Miz could have taken a lesson from fellow Fairfax Underground poster Steve Mittendorff who "suicided" his wife and got off scott free.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: going to far ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:25PM

well again that would end with miz being miserable like he is. he wants lizzie. he didnt realize how shitty his life would be more without her in it. he knows she was his only hope of not being lonely. so just punching her in the face or sitting on her would have been enough to put her in life. most women secretly like being slapped around a bit.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Chin up Miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:38PM

Or just turn gay, it's what people do when they can't make it in a straight relationship. It's much easier to get along with your own sex, you can share clothes, shoes, you can go into saunas together and on and on. Long term it's probably not satisfying but if you're a fuck up, go for it! Better than being alone!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: miz and eesh love each other ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:40PM

miz and eesh need to just get together. they are exactly alike.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: A matter of time ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:41PM

When Miz finally accepts the fact that lizzie isn't coming back to him, he needs to just man up and kill her. Miz should tell himself that "if he can't have her, no one else will either".

Miz has one opportunity to prove he is a man. He needs to put on his big-boy pants, get out his eesh-axe" -- or Little League bat, and step up to the plate. If he can score a good solid crack on the spot where lizzie's head is already dented in, he stands a good chance of putting her lights out permanently.

Miz will never and can never move on with his own life so long as lizzie walks the Earth. This is something he must do. Tootghost approves.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: never gonna happen ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:43PM

liz would kill miz way before he would ever kill her

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Muhammed Miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:46PM

Miz can't fight but he knows how to cook


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: She wouldn't care though ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:46PM

Moreno couldn't kill Moe if he tried. He would kill himself and make sure she knows it was her fault in an effort to try to guilt trip her into feeling bad.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: crackhead william ()
Date: September 18, 2020 09:48PM

lol lizzie cracked miz on the head so he's technically a crackhead

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz has nothing better to do ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:12PM

never gonna happen Wrote:
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> liz would kill miz way before he would ever kill
> her

If Miz put his teeny little mind to it, he could work out a plan eventually. What else does he have to do all-day, every day? Not only does Miz not have anything better to do with his time, he has nothing else at all to do with his time.

He can look to his comic books for inspiraton. Imagine one cold night this winter, our pudgy little gnome crawls under lizzie's trailer and pumps it full of carbon monoxide or toxic gas. Miz could move discreetly to Charlottesville unannounced, in order to conduct clandestine reconnaissance and plan his perfect crime. He might even find someone to provide him with a riot shotgun.


It would be entertaining to see Miz embark on his second "imbecilic jihad", this time against lizzie.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: something william moreno lacks ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:17PM

you need balls to kill someone

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_pact
Posted by: Miz and Liz pact ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:19PM

Remember Miz, til death do us part

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: remember miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:23PM

how scared you were when you got your ass beat the first time

lizzie is over 100 pounds heavier now than she was then

she'll kill you with her bare hands this time

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Allahu Miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:25PM

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: What will Sharon do without him? ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:26PM

William Moreno hasn't killed himself because he's afraid of burning in hell. Killing someone else is also a one way ticket to hell.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Allahu Miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:36PM


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: oh, please... ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:37PM

What will Sharon do without him? Wrote:
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> William Moreno hasn't killed himself because he's
> afraid of burning in hell. Killing someone else is
> also a one way ticket to hell.

Does this sound like someone who is concerned about the afterlife?

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William Robert Moreno
I would fuck Jesus in his tight little asshole. I'd fuck Jesus Christ, our lord and savior, up his faggoty ass, then cum down his throat. I'd punch him in the ribs and then jerk his big fat son of god cock off until he came in my asshole. Then I'd punch him in the head and fuck his face until he turned my cum into wine, then I'd make him drink all the wine, then make him turn the wine back into cum, and he'd have so much cum in his faggot stomach that he'd throw it all up and I'd make him eat all the puke and cum until he puked it all up again, then I'd make him eat it again until he shit his robe, then make him eat his own shit, and all the cum and puke until he passed out, then I'd piss in his faggot savior face and throw down a piece of silver and say "now make me some bread, faggot" and then I'd kick him in the back of the head and throw him in a dumpster. Jesus is an asshole. Fuck him and fuck God too. I'd fuck God in the ass and then punch him in the dick. Fuck both of those cum-guzzling faggots.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/649932/649963.html#msg-649963


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William Robert Moreno
I don't believe you can get in any kind of legal trouble like slander or libel for calling Jesus Christ a pedophile and a rapist.

so I'm calling Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth, a pedophile rapist who has molested young boys. I have proof. The Jesus of the Bible was a sexual deviant and he did drugs, sold drugs, denied his business to black patrons, and he cheated on his taxes. He beat his wife and was involved in racketeering. He was a terrible person.

and he can't touch me for saying that. Because he's been dead for two thousand years. And nobody even has definitive proof that he actually even existed. So I am going on public record as saying that Jesus was a child molester, a thief, a rapist, a drug dealer, and he knowingly sold alcohol and tobacco to minors. He was a scumbag and he was terrible. He was terrible.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/776532/776673.html#msg-776673

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: so tell me ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:37PM

why hasn't he actually killed himself then smart girl?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: stupidity ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:46PM

something william moreno lacks Wrote:
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> you need balls to kill someone

Balls or pure stupidity. Miz is so stupid he actually attempted to assault a juvenile inside the courthouse, in full view of video cameras. While Miz was in the courthouse atrium waiting to be summoned in to testify, he raised his cane over his head and began charging towards TJ Sadler was also waiting nearby. Miz has also famously charged out of his apartment with a Little League chasing eesh, and assaulted his own father with a kitchen knife. Miz may not have any balls, but he definitely has a violent temper and no self-control.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: she'd kill him ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:47PM

stupidity Wrote:
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> definitely has a violent temper and no
> self-control.

and so does lizzie. he wouldn't stand a chance.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: pay attention ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:49PM

so tell me Wrote:
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> why hasn't he actually killed himself then smart
> girl?

Miz explained that in one of his shitty drawings. He says he has some days where he is up. When he is down he knows he will have an up day eventually.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: 15 mins of shame ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:51PM

oh sorry im not obsessed with some fat pedophile retard and study his artwork and commit the quotes to memory like you do mr pathetic 15 hours a day on here loser

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Quoting moreno drawings ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:54PM

Damn. That's a true fan there.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You don't say? ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:56PM

she'd kill him Wrote:
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> > definitely has a violent temper and no
> > self-control.
>
> and so does lizzie.

No kidding?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: only chance ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:56PM

she'd kill him Wrote:
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> stupidity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > definitely has a violent temper and no
> > self-control.
>
> and so does lizzie. he wouldn't stand a chance.

True. Hence he needs to plan carefully. He would need to use fire, gas, poison, or the like. rather than a direct physical confrontation. His comic books should be able to provide plenty of ideas.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: no chance ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:57PM

lizzie has a pitbull and probably an alarm system and camera system and other..stuff...

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Now's your chance ()
Date: September 18, 2020 10:59PM

no chance Wrote:
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> lizzie has a pitbull and probably an alarm system
> and camera system and other..stuff...

That pit bit Monique. It would most certainly kill William.

Didn't someone want to see him get his balls eaten by a pitbull?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: keep dreaming ()
Date: September 18, 2020 11:02PM

stupidity Wrote:
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he raised his cane over
> his head and began charging towards TJ Sadler was
> also waiting nearby. Miz has also famously
> charged out of his apartment with a Little League
> chasing eesh, and assaulted his own father with a
> kitchen knife.

he never assaulted his dad with a knife. he pulled it out to scare him away. he never touched peep with a cane. nor did he touch eesh with a bat.

he knew all of those guys would not do anything in return to him and they didnt.

mo on the other hand drew blood with no provocation according to miz himself.

he knows better than to try anything. it's why he didn't hit her back when she was beating him down. he knew if he touched her she'd finish him off.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Adios ()
Date: September 18, 2020 11:09PM

Miz won't kill himself because he doesn't want to give the people on this website the satisfaction, especially Eesh. He won't kill lizzie because he doesn't want to go to prison for life, which would really give people on here even more satisfaction, knowing he's alive and suffering for life. Miz will continue to do what he's been doing for the past 4 years, the past 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years - being a prisoner in his own mind.

Goodnight.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: you can do it Miz ()
Date: September 18, 2020 11:20PM

Adios Wrote:
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> Miz won't kill himself because he doesn't want to
> give the people on this website the satisfaction,
> especially Eesh. He won't kill lizzie because he
> doesn't want to go to prison for life

C'mon Mizzer, you can do it. If you need some inspiration, just look at Steven Mittendorf. He killed his wife, made it look like suicide. and was never even charged. And of course Miz could always pin the deed on someone else. Coincidentally lizzie herself may have learned from Natalie Keepers in prison that Charles Severance did not kill Nancy Dunning.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: It'll be okay ()
Date: September 19, 2020 04:47AM

Nope. You can't do it Miz. You're clumsy and if you get caught you're guaranteed to get tortured for a month or two before you slowly die of your injuries.

Lizzie is just looking for a reason to hurt you again. You will lose in the end like always.

Your best bet is to find a hooker and turn her into a house ho.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: penis butter jealous tyme ()
Date: September 19, 2020 05:32AM

A matter of time Wrote:
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> When Miz finally accepts the fact that lizzie
> isn't coming back to him

mo has been with jordin for over a year now and was seeing multiple people while living with morono. he knew 4 years ago she was never coming back to him.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: The real question is this ()
Date: September 19, 2020 05:47AM

How does THIS make you feel?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Skdd ()
Date: September 19, 2020 06:03AM

Ghost of Nicole Mittendorff Wrote:
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> fool Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cmdn98 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > real men dont put chicks in jail.
>
> Real men END chicks that get out of line. A real
> man will find a way to snuff the bitch and get
> away with it. Miz could have taken a lesson from
> fellow Fairfax Underground poster Steve
> Mittendorff who "suicided" his wife and got off
> scott free.


Putting you love in jail, is most cases is wrong, and you’re suggesting to kill your love?
Are you a serial killer, or a lover?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: he made a choice that cost him ()
Date: September 19, 2020 06:10AM

putting your love in jail is ok if you have a backup plan. not when your repulsive and can't get anybody else and realize too late that your more miserable without them. and killin anybody is wrong and not worth it. going to hell or prison over a woman is not going to make you happy. he has to suck it up and get over it. if she beat him once she will do it again. he is stupid for even contacting her in the first place. some so stuff and people you just got to leave in the past.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Move on ()
Date: September 19, 2020 06:19AM

Let it go
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Let it go ()
Date: September 19, 2020 07:37AM

he made a choice that cost him Wrote:
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> putting your love in jail is ok if you have a
> backup plan. not when your repulsive and can't get
> anybody else and realize too late that your more
> miserable without them. and killin anybody is
> wrong and not worth it. going to hell or prison
> over a woman is not going to make you happy. he
> has to suck it up and get over it. if she beat him
> once she will do it again. he is stupid for even
> contacting her in the first place. some so stuff
> and people you just got to leave in the past.

I think we all understand this.
Even Moreno.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You fight or you give up ()
Date: September 19, 2020 07:47AM

You fight for “true love”, especially when it starts coming to an end, some people just give up and are selfish
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: the very saddest part of it all ()
Date: September 19, 2020 08:59AM

Let it go Wrote:
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> I think we all understand this.
> Even Moreno.

don't think he does. if he did he would have never done any of it. but the saddest part of this entire thing isn't that he contacted her after she hurt him it's that in the 3/4 years she was gone he did nothing to change his situation. his life is exactly the same but worse now than it was before. he sends her to jail and she comes out and lives her life so why couldn't he do that the entire time since he was free? it's sad. almost like he was waiting for her.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: it's time to give up and move on ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:03AM

You fight or you give up Wrote:
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> You fight for “true love”, especially when it
> starts coming to an end, some people just give up
> and are selfish

they didn't have true love. lizzie was using him for a place to stay. true love doesn't hurt. lizzie humiliated him for years before attacking him. there's no love there's. that's not even someone he needs as a friend or should even want as a friend. there are a lot of geeky comacon girls out there he can meet.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Just let it go, C’MON MAN ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:08AM

it's time to give up and move on Wrote:
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> You fight or you give up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You fight for “true love”, especially when
> it
> > starts coming to an end, some people just give
> up
> > and are selfish
>
> they didn't have true love. lizzie was using him
> for a place to stay. true love doesn't hurt.
> lizzie humiliated him for years before attacking
> him. there's no love there's. that's not even
> someone he needs as a friend or should even want
> as a friend. there are a lot of geeky comacon
> girls out there he can meet.

NO LIZZIE WAS MEANT FOR MORENO!
She belongs to him.
Dude just go with it, you aren’t getting what this threads all about

C’MON MAN

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You don't do that ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:13AM

You fight or you give up Wrote:
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> You fight for “true love”, especially when it
> starts coming to an end

Moreno is the one who made it come to an end when he called the authorities. That's like breaking up with somebody and watching them move on them begging for them to get back together.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Working Saturdays is great ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:16AM

You don't do that Wrote:
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> You fight or you give up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You fight for “true love”, especially when
> it
> > starts coming to an end
>
> Moreno is the one who made it come to an end when
> he called the authorities. That's like breaking up
> with somebody and watching them move on them
> begging for them to get back together.


You never know, with TRUE LOVE!
Ha ha ha!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Go with it! ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:18AM


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Moronology ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:24AM

the very saddest part of it all Wrote:
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> in the 3/4 years she was gone
> he did nothing to change his situation. his life
> is exactly the same but worse now than it was
> before. he sends her to jail and she comes out and
> lives her life so why couldn't he do that the
> entire time since he was free? it's sad. almost
> like he was waiting for her.

Moreno very well may have been waiting for her. His life will never change because he enjoys being the needy, depressive, weakling. His mother taught him that's how you get attention and love from women. It's obviously too late for him to understand that women don't respect that kind of thing and will simply walk all over you or laugh at you. He really is mentally disabled that he would be so transparent about his misery with Monique. She ate it up and loved every minute of it.

Who wouldn't be happy hearing that an adversary is miserable and depressed after they sent you to prison for years. He thought it would garner sympathy with her but it just gave her the satisfaction she needed and more ammo to embarrass him with.

Moreno needs to get off the internet. Go for a jog, eat a salad, bathe, shave, buy new clothes and go out and talk to people. Just talk to them.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Ajss ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:33AM

Moronology Wrote:
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> the very saddest part of it all Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in the 3/4 years she was gone
> > he did nothing to change his situation. his
> life
> > is exactly the same but worse now than it was
> > before. he sends her to jail and she comes out
> and
> > lives her life so why couldn't he do that the
> > entire time since he was free? it's sad. almost
> > like he was waiting for her.
>
> Moreno very well may have been waiting for her.
> His life will never change because he enjoys being
> the needy, depressive, weakling. His mother taught
> him that's how you get attention and love from
> women. It's obviously too late for him to
> understand that women don't respect that kind of
> thing and will simply walk all over you or laugh
> at you. He really is mentally disabled that he
> would be so transparent about his misery with
> Monique. She ate it up and loved every minute of
> it.
>
> Who wouldn't be happy hearing that an adversary is
> miserable and depressed after they sent you to
> prison for years. He thought it would garner
> sympathy with her but it just gave her the
> satisfaction she needed and more ammo to embarrass
> him with.
>
> Moreno needs to get off the internet. Go for a
> jog, eat a salad, bathe, shave, buy new clothes
> and go out and talk to people. Just talk to them.


I will talk to Moreno! I think he should also start hanging out with Meade!
Get some positive church stuff going on, do a collab with Meade.
Reach out, get out!

Stop sitting at him listening to ebony and ivory bro!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: warts and all ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:34AM

he should not have to change his appearance or eating and routine and clothing to find love. his real love will love him just the way he is.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: what if he kills himself? ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:42AM

Just let it go, C’MON MAN Wrote:
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> NO LIZZIE WAS MEANT FOR MORENO!
> She belongs to him.
> Dude just go with it, you aren’t getting what
> this threads all about
>
> C’MON MAN

no she was not and what your doing is cruel. he may be a pos but he didn't do anything to you personally so why you want to keep rubbing this all in his face is sickening. he is suffering enough in life. and rightfully so but you are all sick to laugh at someone being lonely and depressed.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Love stinks ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:46AM

warts and all Wrote:
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> he should not have to change his appearance or
> eating and routine and clothing to find love. his
> real love will love him just the way he is.


U seen what colin kapernick has done for love
People just start doing stupid shit they’ve never done. It just happens, maybe Moreno wanted change cuz of love, love makes u want to be a better person.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LAs7X5ybE

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Not making fun of anyone ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:50AM

what if he kills himself? Wrote:
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> Just let it go, C’MON MAN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NO LIZZIE WAS MEANT FOR MORENO!
> > She belongs to him.
> > Dude just go with it, you aren’t getting what
> > this threads all about
> >
> > C’MON MAN
>
> no she was not and what your doing is cruel. he
> may be a pos but he didn't do anything to you
> personally so why you want to keep rubbing this
> all in his face is sickening. he is suffering
> enough in life. and rightfully so but you are all
> sick to laugh at someone being lonely and
> depressed.

I’m just like Moreno, He’s got to learn to laugh at this bullshit.
this happens to all of us, I’m not making fun of him, Just trying to make him laugh. Isn’t that why we are here, or is it really the best place to get out news?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: There's no help for him ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:53AM

If he wanted change because of love, he would have spent the last four years changing and moving on. Instead he spent the past four years harping on someone who made it *painfully* clear four years ago that they don't want him.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: you got it twisted ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:55AM

Not making fun of anyone Wrote:
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> I’m just like Moreno, He’s got to learn to
> laugh at this bullshit.
> this happens to all of us, I’m not making fun of
> him, Just trying to make him laugh. Isn’t that
> why we are here, or is it really the best place to
> get out news?

just like him how? and no way man. putting a chick in the clink because of a little head wound then crying for her attention does not happen to everyone.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Lemon juice ()
Date: September 19, 2020 09:58AM

what if he kills himself? Wrote:
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> sick to laugh at someone being lonely and
> depressed.

He laughed when people killed themselves by jumping out of windows on September 11. He made fun of child molestation and dead troops. We're going to continue to pick this wound and piss in it and pour salt on it as we see fit.

This entire thing couldn't have happened to a better guy.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Just smack a ho ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:07AM

you got it twisted Wrote:
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> Not making fun of anyone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I’m just like Moreno, He’s got to learn to
> > laugh at this bullshit.
> > this happens to all of us, I’m not making fun
> of
> > him, Just trying to make him laugh. Isn’t
> that
> > why we are here, or is it really the best place
> to
> > get out news?
>
> just like him how? and no way man. putting a chick
> in the clink because of a little head wound then
> crying for her attention does not happen to
> everyone.
I was once in love. He did what he did, it’s over.
I can’t comment about what happened between these 2, cuz I don’t know the facts.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: .fix it ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:16AM

Lemon juice Wrote:
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> what if he kills himself? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > sick to laugh at someone being lonely and
> > depressed.
>
> He laughed when people killed themselves by
> jumping out of windows on September 11. He made
> fun of child molestation and dead troops. We're
> going to continue to pick this wound and piss in
> it and pour salt on it as we see fit.
>
> This entire thing couldn't have happened to a
> better guy.

This jumping out of twin towers, that shit pissed me off.
I think there should be safety nets, about every 40-50 feet or so, up and down building, just in case any kind of shit like this happens, fire, emergency..etc

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Moreno for Prison 2020 ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:17AM

what if he kills himself? Wrote:
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> Just let it go, C’MON MAN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> no she was not and what your doing is cruel. he
> may be a pos but he didn't do anything to you
> personally so why you want to keep rubbing this
> all in his face is sickening. he is suffering
> enough in life. and rightfully so but you are all
> sick to laugh at someone being lonely and
> depressed.

The Moronos fucked with a lot of people, some of whom did nothing whatsoever to them. That includes many who were just doing their jobs such as judges, witnesses, magistrates, and lawyers that the Moronos harassed and defamed. After he intimidated several witnesses, he even came on here on his registered jimmylegs user name to brag about the fact that his opponent had no witnesses. Miz has been harassing eesh and Katie for years on a near-daily basis and has posted katie's nudes thousands of times. At least 90% of the hateful posts about Meade come from Moreno and his jealous envy.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Meades the man ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:28AM

Moreno for Prison 2020 Wrote:
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> what if he kills himself? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just let it go, C’MON MAN Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > no she was not and what your doing is cruel. he
> > may be a pos but he didn't do anything to you
> > personally so why you want to keep rubbing this
> > all in his face is sickening. he is suffering
> > enough in life. and rightfully so but you are
> all
> > sick to laugh at someone being lonely and
> > depressed.
>
> The Moronos fucked with a lot of people, some of
> whom did nothing whatsoever to them. That
> includes many who were just doing their jobs such
> as judges, witnesses, magistrates, and lawyers
> that the Moronos harassed and defamed. After he
> intimidated several witnesses, he even came on
> here on his registered jimmylegs user name to brag
> about the fact that his opponent had no witnesses.
> Miz has been harassing eesh and Katie for years on
> a near-daily basis and has posted katie's nudes
> thousands of times. At least 90% of the hateful
> posts about Meade come from Moreno and his jealous
> envy.


Aren’t we all jealousamd envy Meade!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: predictions ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:33AM

Lizzie back in prison : 2024 - 2026


Miz : death 2032


Eesh : death 2045. Eesh will do the best of the pack, once he gets his meds right. Clearly the highest IQ just lacking EQ.


Meade : Death 2034

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Eesh will die very soon ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:39AM

None of those predictions will come to fruition. It was predicted Miz would have been dead years ago and liz back in jail already.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Moreno is a true bitch ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:46AM

Just smack a ho Wrote:
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> I was once in love. He did what he did, it’s
> over.
> I can’t comment about what happened between
> these 2, cuz I don’t know the facts.

The facts are Moreno is a bitch. He got his ass beat and called the police like a bitch. In sticking with the true fashion of being a bitch he goes back to his abuser for more abuse. Just like a bitch.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Futures Analyst ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:48AM

Eesh will die very soon Wrote:
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> None of those predictions will come to fruition.
> It was predicted Miz would have been dead years
> ago and liz back in jail already.


Lizzie hasn't even been out a year, no way will she be back that soon. You have to give it a few years.


I never said Miz or Eesh would die years ago, they will both continue on for at least the next decade.


Meade and Miz will both die of health problems the soonest, Lizzie will get released in 2035 and actually go onto live until 2047.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Pre dick shuns ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:50AM

Most prisoners only last six months of release.

I didn't say you said Miz would be dead soon. Others did. Eesh will kill himself and I don't know or care about Meade.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: granted it was only 30 days ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:52AM

Futures Analyst Wrote:
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> Lizzie hasn't even been out a year, no way will
> she be back that soon. You have to give it a few
> years.

her last time between incarceration was 11 months

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Chick inn ()
Date: September 19, 2020 10:58AM

the very saddest part of it all Wrote:
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> but the saddest part of this
> entire thing isn't that he contacted her after she
> hurt him it's that in the 3/4 years she was gone
> he did nothing to change his situation. his life
> is exactly the same but worse now than it was
> before.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: he has paid his debt ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:14AM

Lemon juice Wrote:
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> He laughed when people killed themselves by
> jumping out of windows on September 11. He made
> fun of child molestation and dead troops. We're
> going to continue to pick this wound and piss in
> it and pour salt on it as we see fit.
>
> This entire thing couldn't have happened to a
> better guy.

yes but he's paid for all of that already quite a few times over. losing the lawsuit losing his father and grandpa and going to jail and getting played by the newspaper and losing the only person who ever gave him the time of day. why keep rehashing the whole thing? he is depressed miserable isolated lonely and suicidal what more do you need?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:25AM

Is Sharon dead?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Shattered Shithole Syndicate ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:32AM

Mommy...people are mean to me...

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz continues to commit crimes ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:34AM

he has paid his debt Wrote:
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> Lemon juice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He laughed when people killed themselves by
> > jumping out of windows on September 11. He made
> > fun of child molestation and dead troops. We're
> > going to continue to pick this wound and piss
> in
> > it and pour salt on it as we see fit.
> >
> > This entire thing couldn't have happened to a
> > better guy.
>
> yes but he's paid for all of that already quite a
> few times over. losing the lawsuit losing his
> father and grandpa and going to jail and getting
> played by the newspaper and losing the only person
> who ever gave him the time of day. why keep
> rehashing the whole thing? he is depressed
> miserable isolated lonely and suicidal what more
> do you need?

Miz has continued to goad eesh nearly every day, even illegally using eesh's SSN in an attempt to obtain confidential financial data. Miz also continues to harass Katie and her family and has posted her nudes thousands of times in hopes of winning lizzie back by attacking her former love interest.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Not a need ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:38AM

he has paid his debt Wrote:
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> why keep
> rehashing the whole thing? he is depressed
> miserable isolated lonely and suicidal what more
> do you need?

More of a want.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: self projection ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:44AM

he has paid his debt Wrote:
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> Lemon juice Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He laughed when people killed themselves by
> > jumping out of windows on September 11. He made
> > fun of child molestation and dead troops. We're
> > going to continue to pick this wound and piss
> in
> > it and pour salt on it as we see fit.
> >
> > This entire thing couldn't have happened to a
> > better guy.
>
> yes but he's paid for all of that already quite a
> few times over. losing the lawsuit losing his
> father and grandpa and going to jail and getting
> played by the newspaper and losing the only person
> who ever gave him the time of day. why keep
> rehashing the whole thing? he is depressed
> miserable isolated lonely and suicidal what more
> do you need?


She is Mizerable herself so she makes fun of him to make herself feel better

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: self projection ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:45AM

Queue the pictures and statements about how happy she is. Cuz ya know that is totally what happy normal people would do /s

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: self rejection ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:48AM

self projection Wrote:
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> Queue the pictures and statements about how happy
> she is. Cuz ya know that is totally what happy
> normal people would do /s

haven't actually seen her make any statements about being happy and the pictures are just of her and a girl half naked which would make anybody happy

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: doesnt look too miserable to me ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:50AM

self projection Wrote:
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> She is Mizerable herself so she makes fun of him
> to make herself feel better

dont look too miserable to me


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: this looks miserable ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:50AM


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Nome sane ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:58AM

self rejection Wrote:
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> self projection Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Queue the pictures and statements about how
> happy
> > she is. Cuz ya know that is totally what happy
> > normal people would do /s
>
> haven't actually seen her make any statements
> about being happy and the pictures are just of her
> and a girl half naked which would make anybody
> happy

The pics of all these people actin like they livin the life, and all that shit.
I know a bitch, same exact position as Lizzie, all glamorizing themselves, she and her girl act like the kardashins, the only reason they have shit is cuz she is living home with her mother, splitting the rent 3 ways, while all workin and selling drugs

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: whats wrong with the pics? ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:59AM

self projection Wrote:
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> Queue the pictures and statements about how happy
> she is. Cuz ya know that is totally what happy
> normal people would do /s

this is precisely what happy people do. guess you dont know what looks like since all you know is misery but dont worry someday you too will find happiness

guess you dont know what happiness looks like if you think this is misery

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: your readin way too much into it ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:02PM

Nome sane Wrote:
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> The pics of all these people actin like they livin
> the life, and all that shit.
> I know a bitch, same exact position as Lizzie, all
> glamorizing themselves, she and her girl act like
> the kardashins, the only reason they have shit is
> cuz she is living home with her mother, splitting
> the rent 3 ways, while all workin and selling
> drugs

dont really think thats what those pics are showing at all. just a pic of them wearing masks and flipping the bird and walking a dog. lizzie is on social security and getting unemployment tho. think your readin too much into some fb pics and porno pics.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: oh the glamourous ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:03PM

sittin in a bed with a womain aint all that glamourous mizzy its literally is what normal ppl do lol

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: self projection ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:04PM

self projection Wrote:
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> Queue the pictures and statements about how happy
> she is. Cuz ya know that is totally what happy
> normal people would do /s


Damn I'm good

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: self rejection ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:04PM

just playing along son

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: makes fun of him where? ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:06PM

but again aint seen any posts of her claiming to be happy and taking pics of your daily life is what normal ppl do lol you just dont know because you have never been with anyone or been happy before you are miserable and its ok she isnt making fun of him at all. this was pretty nice IMO


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ppl post their lives on fb ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:10PM

these are fb screenshots not ffxu pics lol. you would know that if you had friends and a fb to use. dont be mad because you dont have anyone to walk a dog with or get tats with or lay in bed with

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: rubbing it in ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:11PM


or eat shitty taco bell with

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:12PM


or make porn with a woman with

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:13PM


this is a screen cap from their onlyfans page they are making money that way by having lonely men like the ones on this website pay them thousands of bucks a night to talk to them just talk to them

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:14PM


lizzie has sex with a woman and you dont

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:14PM

lizzie has sex with a woman and you dont

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: fat fingers ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:14PM

Look at those pudgy little fingers!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: at the end of the day ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:15PM

lizzie has sex with a woman and you cant

lizzie has sex with a woman and you cant

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: fat and still getting the pussy ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:18PM

fat fingers Wrote:
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> Look at those pudgy little fingers!

Re: Relationship inspiration
Posted by: lizzie ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:22PM

dog = distraction Wrote:
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> You can hardly take care of yourself, the dog is
> just a distraction to keep your mind off your own
> problems

But you're so right. I can't take care of myself. My girl cooks for me and caters to me and in return I love her and treat her with respect and don't cheat on her and beat her.

My biggest problem with her is that she cooks so damn well she's made me fat as shit! I can't stop eating her or her cooking!

#stillwinning

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz has Sharon ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:20PM

Miz can have sex (anal sex) with a woman any time he wants.

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William Robert Moreno
so, anybody here ever fuck their mom up her ass? Am I the only one?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636757.html#msg-636757

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William Robert Moreno
what, no one wants to talk about fucking their mother?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636762.html#msg-636762
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: hey miserable misery miz moreno ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:38PM

does it hurt?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz not signed in ()
Date: September 19, 2020 02:27PM

Yea...but eesh...yea eesh...katie...yea

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: We want it ()
Date: September 19, 2020 02:36PM

Now's your chance Wrote:
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> no chance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lizzie has a pitbull and probably an alarm
> system
> > and camera system and other..stuff...
>
> That pit bit Monique. It would most certainly kill
> William.
>
> Didn't someone want to see him get his balls eaten
> by a pitbull?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: lizzie ()
Date: September 19, 2020 03:41PM

I want him to live. I have nothing against him, he's just annoying. I'm not putting up with that whiny shit anymore.

I'm in Tennessee! Enjoy my last post!

I have everything you said I wouldn't, HA!
#stillwinning
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: why? ()
Date: September 19, 2020 05:17PM

lizzie Wrote:
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> I want him to live.

how come?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Pimp daddy peep ()
Date: September 19, 2020 05:27PM

lizzie Wrote:
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> I want him to live. I have nothing against him,
> he's just annoying. I'm not putting up with that
> whiny shit anymore.
>
> I'm in Tennessee! Enjoy my last post!


Winning bitch!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: betcha ()
Date: September 19, 2020 11:53PM

lizzie Wrote:
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> I want him to live. I have nothing against him

well he will be glad to hear that

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Not miz ()
Date: September 20, 2020 12:49AM

For someone who's winning, you sure seem obsessed over William. You're not very smart, are you?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: pathetic ()
Date: September 20, 2020 08:17AM

nothing says obsessed with like getting ignored and blocked after desperately begging to get talked to for months
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: This aIl checks out! ^^^^ ()
Date: September 20, 2020 04:49PM

Loser!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: start fuckin em ()
Date: September 20, 2020 05:49PM

real men move on to the next bitch
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: VISTING after being ignored..... ()
Date: September 20, 2020 06:29PM

...via call text email fb messenger pm etc is STALKING

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: did someone say moreno stalking? ()
Date: September 20, 2020 06:38PM

thats not beneath him or his mommy
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Questioner... ()
Date: September 20, 2020 08:41PM

WTF WAS THAT WHORE SITTING ON?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: NiBSC ()
Date: September 21, 2020 09:34AM

tin pin

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz has a backup plan ()
Date: September 21, 2020 06:15PM

Miz will go back to trolling eesh and Katie.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Poor Willy ()
Date: September 21, 2020 06:41PM

Calling 911 was so silly
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Screaming and soiling himself ()
Date: September 22, 2020 10:26AM

Moreno's such a fucking pussy

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Did he really shit himself? ()
Date: September 22, 2020 03:29PM

Screaming and soiling himself Wrote:
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> Moreno's such a fucking pussy


Damn

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He did ()
Date: September 22, 2020 03:43PM

The prosecutor in the case against Monique made a big deal about her "bragging on the phone to many others and laughing at the fact that the 'victim' lost control of his bowels out of terror"

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Shitty pants Moreno ()
Date: September 23, 2020 12:15PM

King of Crap

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: jiggaz ()
Date: September 23, 2020 05:09PM

Not miz Wrote:
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> For someone who's winning, you sure seem obsessed
> over William. You're not very smart, are you?

if by obsessed you mean getting pleasure from his painful loneliness and social isolation then yes many of us are obsessed :)

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Please sir ()
Date: September 23, 2020 05:27PM

May I have some more?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Chitterlings ()
Date: September 23, 2020 07:06PM

pathetic Wrote:
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> nothing says obsessed with like getting ignored
> and blocked after desperately begging to get
> talked to for months

Nothing says obsessed like calling someone over and over again leaving multiple voicemails begging them to talk to you and that they need to hear your voice.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Just talk to me...... ()
Date: September 24, 2020 09:42AM

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Comical ()
Date: September 24, 2020 09:56AM

All of it
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Definitely Not Roy Orbison ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:16AM

Crying Crying Crying...over you

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: LOW IQ/EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:19AM

Not miz Wrote:
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> For someone who's winning, you sure seem obsessed
> over William. You're not very smart, are you?


You're dealing with someone who is emotionally at a childs level, they don't grow after they experience the trauma, they stay stuck at that age.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: LOW IQ/EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:23AM

You have to give it to Moreno when it comes to self awareness, he is fully aware he is a complete loser. Lizzie OTOH lacks any self awareness which is why she always thinks she is #winning

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: learn what obsessed is ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:29AM

don't see how replying to about 120 comments with 1 comment by saying she doesn't want him to kill himself is being obsessed.

messaging someone who put you in the hospital and made you shit yourself for half a year without getting a reply and continuing to do so until getting blocked is obsessed..

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Very close to home ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:30AM


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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique is very much winning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:33AM

LOW IQ/EQ Wrote:
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> You have to give it to Moreno when it comes to
> self awareness, he is fully aware he is a complete
> loser. Lizzie OTOH lacks any self awareness which
> is why she always thinks she is #winning

There is a certain cockiness that comes with the ability to make a woman orgasm. Monique's winning. Look at Moreno and look at Jordan. If that's not winning I don't know what is.

Moreno has no self awareness. If he did he would have never disclosed his misery to Monique. She enjoyed that more than you know and rightfully so.

No one else really has the right to want Moreno dead or miserable since in reality he's done nothing to anyone else.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: LOW IQ/EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:35AM

learn what obsessed is Wrote:
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> don't see how replying to about 120 comments with
> 1 comment by saying she doesn't want him to kill
> himself is being obsessed.
>
> messaging someone who put you in the hospital and
> made you shit yourself for half a year without
> getting a reply and continuing to do so until
> getting blocked is obsessed..


You only replied with one comment, HAHAHAHAHAHAH

No one is denying Miz is obsessed with you. A normal person would completely move on, stop talking, thinking, making fun of a mentally ill person that obsesses over them. It's pretty clear he still takes up a bunch of space in your head which is why you get called out. You clearly enjoy the fact he is obsessed over you.


Similar logic to this statement


file.php?40,file=86886,filename=monique.


This creepy ass mufka obsessed over me OMG what a creep, I want nothing to do with him!

5 minutes later...

Posting pictures of Miz

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: LOW IQ/EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:37AM

Monique is very much winning Wrote:
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> LOW IQ/EQ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You have to give it to Moreno when it comes to
> > self awareness, he is fully aware he is a
> complete
> > loser. Lizzie OTOH lacks any self awareness
> which
> > is why she always thinks she is #winning
>
> There is a certain cockiness that comes with the
> ability to make a woman orgasm. Monique's winning.
> Look at Moreno and look at Jordan. If that's not
> winning I don't know what is.

I wish I could lack the self awareness where making a ex con dike orgasm would make me feel like I'm winning somehow.

I'm an ex-con in bumfuck VA living with an ex-con dike, but I make her orgasm #WINNING

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: most definitely winning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:39AM

lizzie is also winning simply because she is defying everyone's low expectations of her. people predicted she would be back in jail or homeless and lonely and whatnot. yet here she is living with her girlfriend and not some bum like miz. driving her own truck instead of taking the bus or getting rides like she was before. and she has more money as a felon and not working than she ever did as a non felon. how is that not winning?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: but why are you mad though? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:41AM

LOW IQ/EQ Wrote:
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> You only replied with one comment, HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>
> No one is denying Miz is obsessed with you. A
> normal person would completely move on,

LMFAO! yea a normal person. ok. and that's where you fucked up.

how's that for self aware? people can do whatever they want and will do whatever they want. don't like it? don't come here.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Well we know you're not winning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:44AM

LOW IQ/EQ Wrote:
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> I wish I could lack the self awareness where
> making a ex con dike orgasm would make me feel
> like I'm winning somehow.
>
> I'm an ex-con in bumfuck VA living with an ex-con
> dike, but I make her orgasm #WINNING

No. You just wish you could get a woman, period. And lol Charlottesville is Bumfuck?

Interesting.

Tell me this, why's it bother you so much? You're obviously losing since you're so concerned about someone else knowing they're winning.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: talk about getting called out ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:47AM

only losers are bothered by someone claiming they're losing. funniest part is that lizzie is actually doing better in life than these men and that's what pisses them off the most.

let's break it down.

she's a black fat two timed felon yet she isn't living with her parents. she has her own vehicle. she had a woman who she doesn't have to beg for sex or pay for it. she is getting money and doesn't even have to work and they do. and it bothers them that despite all of what should be holding lizzie back isn't one bit. that's why they are here. mad.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: #winning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 10:49AM

#stillwinning
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: LOW IQ/EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:14AM

Sure sure deflect, everyone who calls you out is a loser yup okay.

But on a real note you need Jesus, you will come to realize life is more than orgasms and trucks. You will realize how silly it is that you even brag about those things.

Look at Candace Owens or Ciara Shares or many like them they are killing it, you should aspire to be like those black women not just better than Miz which is a pathetically low bar.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: reality vs what you see online ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:22AM

you're obsessed with someone who you claim is obsessed with someone. so that makes you a loser. you ain't winning because if you were you wouldn't have an issue with someone else saying they are winnng.

perhaps you should look at yourself and wonder why you think you are better than lizzie when in reality you aren't. you can't even get a woman. you probably live at your parents place and drive their car.

but lizzie knows life is more than orgasms and trucks. you are so low IQ that you actually think she thinks that? no. it's just fun to rub it in the faces of men who can't even do that when a two timed black felon can

notice how you never mention how she's actually making a positive difference in the world and is apart of the community and organizations and donates her time and money to helping others ;)

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: #stillwinning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:24AM

#winning
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Quite Impressive ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:26AM

talk about getting called out Wrote:
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> let's break it down.
>
> she's a black fat two timed felon yet she isn't
> living with her parents. she has her own vehicle.
> she had a woman who she doesn't have to beg for
> sex or pay for it. she is getting money and
> doesn't even have to work

So in summary, lizzie's accomplishments in life amount to:

1. Overweight, possibly obese
2. Felony convictions
3. Is allowed to sleep indoors in someone else's house
4. Has a used truck to drive
5. Engages in lesbian sex with another convicted felon
6. Receives welfare disability payments

That is quite an impressive list, congratulations.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Lizzie is winning get over it ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:29AM

LOW IQ/EQ Wrote:
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> But on a real note you need Jesus, you will come
> to realize life is more than orgasms and trucks.
> You will realize how silly it is that you even
> brag about those things.

You need Jesus. Lizzie has every right to brag about what she's accomplished after incarceration.

Most felons don't get into relationships, don't buy vehicles, or homes after less than a year of release. And since those were things many people said lizzie wouldn't achieve it's not silly at all to post about them.

But you cannot tell anyone what life is about. Life is about doing what makes you happy. If trucks and orgasms is her thing why does it bother you so much?

You seem to miss the irony and hypocrisy in you're even posting everything you're posting. You must be new here. This is what lizzie does and this is what lizzie is always going to do and nothing you say will ever change that. She doesn't care at all what you have to say. The fact that you take the time out to try to downplay or put down whatever she says only reenforces the fact that she is winning.

If she's not winning tell us how she's losing. Because losing is being single, lonely, living in your parent's place, driving their cars and not having any money or doing anything with your life.

The complete opposite of what lizzie is.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: what's really funny though ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:31AM

Quite Impressive Wrote:
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> 1. Overweight, possibly obese
> 2. Felony convictions
> 3. Is allowed to sleep indoors in someone else's
> house
> 4. Has a used truck to drive
> 5. Engages in lesbian sex with another convicted
> felon
> 6. Receives welfare disability payments
>
> That is quite an impressive list, congratulations.

and yet she's actually really totally completely doing better in life than you lol

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Thanks for proving the wins ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:36AM

Quite Impressive Wrote:
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> 1. Overweight, possibly obese

She's actually big. As in buff.

> 2. Felony convictions

And how have those effected her negatively?


> 3. Is allowed to sleep indoors in someone else's house

It's her own house. Just accept it already. I know it's tough because you don't have one.

> 4. Has a used truck to drive

It's actually new and a 2020, anyone who knew anything about trucks could tell that from the pictures. But clearly you wouldn't know that since you're driving your parent's old ass vehicles.

> 5. Engages in lesbian sex with another convicted felon

You say this convicted felon thing like it's a bad thing or something, lol! Might want to again go check and see how much that word means nothing in the real world.

> 6. Receives welfare disability payments

Gets a free few grand a month for not working* again, let's face reality.

> That is quite an impressive list, congratulations.

Thanks!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:38AM

Quite Impressive Wrote:
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> So in summary, lizzie's accomplishments in life
> amount to:
>
> 1. Overweight, possibly obese
> 2. Felony convictions
> 3. Is allowed to sleep indoors in someone else's
> house
> 4. Has a used truck to drive
> 5. Engages in lesbian sex with another convicted
> felon
> 6. Receives welfare disability payments
>
> That is quite an impressive list, congratulations.

Ok William how do you stack up?

1. overweight/obese
2. Felony charges and misdemeanor convictions
3. Allowed to sleep indoors in his mom's house
4. Has a used Kia Rio to drive
5. Engages in anal sex with his 68-year-old mother
6. Receives welfare disability payments.

So it actually looks like you and lizzie are about even. The main difference is that lizzie seems to be abiding by the law whereas you continue to commit crimes with the revenge porn and use of another's SSN. Lizzie is also not whining for you to come back and reunite with her.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Still getting more pussy than ya ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:38AM

Quite Impressive Wrote:
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> 5. Engages in lesbian sex with another convicted felon

She's a woman. And not a hand like the "sex" you engage in. Sorry.

Lizzie's felon girlfriend has a job. Something you also know nothing of otherwise you wouldn't be on here right now.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: homo says what!?!??!????? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:40AM

ummm to any real man or lesbo - pussy and trucks IS LIFE ROFL wtf you talkin bout FAGGOT?! only some gay ass weirdo would say some do fudge packing shit like that

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Speaking of packing fudge... ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:45AM

In addition to his hand, Miz has his mother for sex

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William Robert Moreno
so, anybody here ever fuck their mom up her ass? Am I the only one?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636757.html#msg-636757

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William Robert Moreno
what, no one wants to talk about fucking their mother?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636762.html#msg-636762

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: lizzie's winning ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:45AM

Hi William. Wrote:
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> The main difference is that lizzie seems to
> be abiding by the law

and lizzie helps animals whereas miz kills them
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: baiting the mentally ill ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:47AM

Is lizzie really winning? I will have to see more pictures to believe this!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: can't even use his hand ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:47AM

Speaking of packing fudge... Wrote:
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> In addition to his hand, Miz has his mother for
> sex

too small

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique please just talk to me ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:48AM

Hi William. Wrote:
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Lizzie is also not whining for you to come back and reunite with her.


http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?40,file=266997,filename=mpEz-Talk_to_Me.mp3
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You got it dude! ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:50AM

baiting the mentally ill Wrote:
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> Is lizzie really winning? I will have to see more
> pictures to believe this!

Reverse psychology only works on those who are low IQ ;)
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: FFXU Couples Therapy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:50AM

You two love birds can work this out, FFXU is here to help you two through this difficult time. Miz man up and propose, Lizzie wants your cock.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: have an army of my own ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:52AM

FFXU Couples Therapy Wrote:
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> Lizzie wants your cock.


can't want something that doesn't exist

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: FFXU Couples Therapy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:53AM

Miz will draw pictures of dogs, sell them on Instagram and fund the entire sanctuary. You two will live happily ever after, I can just feel it.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique's got a bigger cock ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:54AM

Monique wins
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Disco inferno ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:54AM

have an army of my own Wrote:
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> can't want something that doesn't exist

Oh shit! LMFAOOO!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Ouch ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:56AM

have an army of my own Wrote:
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> > Lizzie wants your cock.
>
> can't want something that doesn't exist
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique in Charlottesville ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:57AM

Miz, you know it's all in good fun right? <3 I want you back in a couple years once I'm mentally stable

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: not gonna stop because you cry ()
Date: September 25, 2020 11:59AM

if lizzie weren't mentally stable she'd be back in jail.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: try again retard ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:00PM

Monique in Charlottesville Wrote:
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she doesn't live in cville anymore idiot

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: What's really interesting is.... ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:02PM

Lizzie isn't even making fun of him. She said and has said on multiple occasions that she doesn't want him dead, although she'd be justified in wanting it. Yet random people who he has never done anything to want him dead.

Fascinating.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Present vs the past is a blast ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:05PM

And this is why she's winning
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Victims of the MCF ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:25PM

What's really interesting is.... Wrote:
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> Yet random people who he has never
> done anything to want him dead.
>
> Fascinating.

William Moreno harassed, defamed, and generally fucked with quite a few random people, some of whom had done nothing whatsoever to him. They would not shed any tears if he died or had his genitalia gnawed off and eaten by dogs. There is also reason to believe that lizzie assisted or participated in the Moreno Crime Family criminal activity while she was a member of the MCF.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ^ loser above ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:34PM

your obsessed with miz get a life loser

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:39PM

^ loser above Wrote:
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> your obsessed with miz get a life loser

Perhaps if the Morenos had not fucked with innocent people Miz wouldn't need to tell them to get a life.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Jurisdictional ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:39PM

try again retard Wrote:
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> Monique in Charlottesville Wrote:

> she doesn't live in cville anymore idiot

Technically she does. Rio is the Fairfax city of Fairfax county, if you get what I'm saying.

Like the "town" of Herndon is still Fairfax county. It's one of those type of dealies.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique please ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:40PM

Hi William. Wrote:
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> ^ loser above Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > your obsessed with miz get a life loser
>
> Perhaps if the Morenos had not fucked with
> innocent people Miz wouldn't need to tell them to
> get a life.

He has no room to tell anyone to get a life.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: no such thing exists ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:42PM

Hi William. Wrote:
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> ^ loser above Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > your obsessed with miz get a life loser
>
> Perhaps if the Morenos had not fucked with
> innocent people Miz wouldn't need to tell them to
> get a life.

you can't even name these so called innocent people

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He knows ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:46PM

no such thing exists Wrote:
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> Hi William. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^ loser above Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > your obsessed with miz get a life loser
> >
> > Perhaps if the Morenos had not fucked with
> > innocent people Miz wouldn't need to tell them
> to
> > get a life.
>
> you can't even name these so called innocent
> people

Won't, not can't. The Morenos know who they fucked with

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Comedy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:48PM

Monique please Wrote:
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> He has no room to tell anyone to get a life.

William Moreno telling someone else to get a life is actually funny. Unlike his "dark humor". Maybe Miz does have a future in comedy.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: imaginary people you hallucinate ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:49PM

can't. not won't. there was no witness intimidation. basl had no witnesses. period.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: miz is a hilarious brother ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:49PM

Comedy Wrote:
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> William Moreno telling someone else to get a life
> is actually funny. Unlike his "dark humor".
> Maybe Miz does have a future in comedy.

miz has always been very comical

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Witness Intimidation ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:54PM

imaginary people you hallucinate Wrote:
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> can't. not won't. there was no witness
> intimidation. basl had no witnesses. period.

The Morenos harassed at least 4 or 5 witnesses and William then bragged that basl had no witnesses for his appeal. They also harassed lawyers, judges, and magistrates.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: you are delusional and crazy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:57PM

hahahahah so you are trying to say that multiple people were so afraid of moreno's internet comments or whatever it was that they were intimidated enough by him to not show up to court?

ok miz. good self troll. nobody is scared of you except for eesh.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Look at how he's standing ()
Date: September 25, 2020 12:59PM

Who wouldn't be intimidated by this big strong scary man?!
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: nobody likes michael basl ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:01PM

if you let this shit intimidate you then you deserve all the trolling and harassment that comes to you. but since that never actually happened and it was just as simple as the fact that basl had no witnesses because no one likes him it doesn't matter.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hella hilarious ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:03PM

nobody likes michael basl Wrote:
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> simple as the fact that basl had no
> witnesses because no one likes him it doesn't matter.

That's exactly the reason. It's why peep and his mom didn't go to court on his behalf. Eesh had them charged with contempt of court and had them dragged in to testify. Then peep's testimony helped get eesh found guilty of the violation of protective order charges, lol!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Witness Intimidation ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:06PM

you are delusional and crazy Wrote:
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> hahahahah so you are trying to say that multiple
> people were so afraid of moreno's internet
> comments or whatever it was that they were
> intimidated enough by him to not show up to
> court?

The Morenos harassed and defamed multiple witnesses during July and August 2016. In December Miz bragged that eesh did not have any witnesses for his upcoming appeal.

Considering the nonstop harassment the Morenos carried on it is hard to imagine anyone willing to go to court against them. If eesh had had a decent attorney he could have used the harassment as a basis for a further appeal.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: megan peep lizzie the morenos ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:07PM

Witness Intimidation Wrote:
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> Considering the nonstop harassment the Morenos
> carried on it is hard to imagine anyone willing to
> go to court against them.

go against them in court for what? they weren't the ones on trial and considering the non stop harassment basl did plenty of people went up in court against him

imagine that

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Does it really matter in the end ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:09PM

You people have ADHD or ADD or whatever. The subjects in these threads change so quickly and you all get so stuck on the same conversations, saying the same things over and over and over again to each other every single time.

Why?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Witness Intimidation ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:09PM

nobody likes michael basl Wrote:
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> but since that never actually happened and

It definitely happened and the posts are still here on this site. No one should be harassed for simply doing their job or being asked to testify. Yet the Morenos harassed and defamed them.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: drama queens, all of you ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:11PM

Waaaa he/she said mean things on the internet, someone call the wambulance. Think about all the Innocent victims!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Megan was a MCF victim ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:12PM

Megan was harassed by Moreno. She doesn't particularly like eesh, but she hates Miz with a passion because he used and manipulated her and took advantage of her

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: who cares tho ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:12PM

Witness Intimidation Wrote:
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> nobody likes michael basl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > but since that never actually happened and
>
> It definitely happened and the posts are still
> here on this site. No one should be harassed for
> simply doing their job or being asked to testify.
> Yet the Morenos harassed and defamed them.

eesh did this very thing so what's your point?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:13PM

drama queens, all of you Wrote:
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> Waaaa he/she said mean things on the internet,

Speak for yourself Miz

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Never ever happened ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:13PM

Megan was a MCF victim Wrote:
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> Megan was harassed by Moreno.

Where? When? How so?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Just Miz ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:14PM

who cares tho Wrote:
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> Witness Intimidation Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > nobody likes michael basl Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > but since that never actually happened and
> >
> > It definitely happened and the posts are still
> > here on this site. No one should be harassed
> for
> > simply doing their job or being asked to
> testify.
> > Yet the Morenos harassed and defamed them.
>
> eesh did this very thing so what's your point?

Nope that was just the Morenos.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Need some tissues for his issues ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:16PM

drama queens, all of you Wrote:
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> Waaaa he/she said mean things on the internet,
> someone call the wambulance. Think about all the
> Innocent victims!

Right. The person making these claims wants someone else dead for things they TYPED ON THE INTERNET! Things that weren't even said to or about them.

I wish I had those problems. That something someone posted on this website that no one who matters knows about YEARS ago made me so upset I want that person to die.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Megan was victimized by the MCF ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:17PM

Never ever happened Wrote:
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> Megan was a MCF victim Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Megan was harassed by Moreno.
>
> Where? When? How so?

Did you miss all the begging, pleading messages Miz sent to Megan? Did you miss when the Morenos dropped Megan like a used tampax after she lost her case? Did you miss when Miz then posted Megan's porn video in revenge? Did you miss when the Morenos used Megan's photo in court without her permission?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ok kroger thief ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:17PM

Just Miz Wrote:
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> Nope that was just the Morenos.

ok eesh we all believe you

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:20PM

ok kroger thief Wrote:
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> Just Miz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nope that was just the Morenos.
>
> ok eesh we all believe you

Sure William, we believe you.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: But wait, who's this? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:20PM

Just Miz Wrote:
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> > eesh did this very thing so what's your point?
>
> Nope that was just the Morenos.

Says the guy in this picture stalking the lawyer and his suv.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ok eesh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:21PM

oh that's eesh aka michael basl

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: We believe you Michael Basl ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:22PM

Okay lawyer stalker
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Norman Bates and his Mother ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:27PM

Megan is often quite funny.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: WWSSO? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:30PM

Hi William. What was Sharon sitting on anyway?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Eesh, Liz and MIz the retards ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:31PM

Megan was victimized by the MCF Wrote:
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> Never ever happened Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Megan was a MCF victim Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Megan was harassed by Moreno.
> >
> > Where? When? How so?
>
> Did you miss all the begging, pleading messages
> Miz sent to Megan? Did you miss when the Morenos
> dropped Megan like a used tampax after she lost
> her case? Did you miss when Miz then posted
> Megan's porn video in revenge? Did you miss when
> the Morenos used Megan's photo in court without
> her permission?

Lets not forget who dug up those porn pics originally, that is way above the skill level of Miz, that is an Eesh specialty.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Basl is a miserable SOB ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:31PM

So is peeps mom
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:32PM

.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: low iq ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:33PM

Eesh, Liz and MIz the retards Wrote:
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> Lets not forget who dug up those porn pics
> originally, that is way above the skill level of
> Miz, that is an Eesh specialty.

he simply asked megs ex bf for the pics. then posted them from his own name and was arrested.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Moreno is a Bully ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:34PM

Basl is a miserable SOB Wrote:
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> So is peeps mom

Peep's mom said Moreno is a bully, picking on a 15 year old kid
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Speaking of low IQ and low EQ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:35PM

low iq Wrote:
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> he simply asked megs ex bf for the pics. then
> posted them from his own name and was arrested.

Then he bragged about being arrested and posted the warrant right along with his ssn. He tried to edit it out but it was already too late.

Talk about stupid things to brag about and having a low IQ and low EQ.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Megan's pics ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:38PM

Don't give eesh to much credit. Megan's porn pics were on at least one other public website for a long time before they were posted here. Plenty of posters had already seen them.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: guilty ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:39PM

and only one retard was arrested and convicted for it
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: stabstabstabstabstab ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:40PM

Moreno attacked his own father with a knife and was arrested on FELONY ASSAULT charges
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: $25,000.00 bond ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:41PM

and spent a week in jail on a felony and eesh did a MONTH for posting as a dead cat

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Even reddit knows he's an idiot ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:41PM

–]SistaSabuda 10 points 14 hours ago
He's an idiot. He got arrested and bragged about it once he was released and posted his warrant on a forum....without redacting anything. Including his ssn.

https://www.reddit.com/r/punchablefaces/comments/3e713m/this_tough_guy/

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Eesh was Acquitted ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:42PM

guilty Wrote:
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> and only one retard was arrested and convicted
> for it

Except he was found NOT GUILTY
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You can't. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:42PM

Post a REAL mugshot. Not a shitty photshop of a picture from the post article.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: except he was found guilty ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:43PM

Eesh was Acquitted Wrote:
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> Except he was found NOT GUILTY

you don't have to appeal if you're found not guilty

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: This tough guy? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:44PM

Even reddit knows he's an idiot Wrote:
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> –]SistaSabuda 10 points 14 hours ago
> He's an idiot. He got arrested and bragged about
> it once he was released and posted his warrant on
> a forum....without redacting anything. Including
> his ssn.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/punchablefaces/comments/3
> e713m/this_tough_guy/


Miz is the troll
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Obsessed with Moreno ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:45PM

How obsessed with someone do you have to be to have multiple protective order violation convictions?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:45PM

Good morning. You're up early today.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: meeeeoooooowwwwwww ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:46PM

Obsessed with Moreno Wrote:
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> How obsessed with someone do you have to be to
> have multiple protective order violation
> convictions?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:46PM

William Moreno Arrest Record


William Robert Moreno
Moreno, William Robert
aliases: Frank Krow, Frank_Krow, Mr. Misery, Miz, jimmylegs, Voodooslut

known associates: Christopher James Tator, Chris Tator, Tator Tots

https://wtvr.com/2015/07/25/richmond-man-at-the-center-of-a-reign-of-terror-cyber-bulling-lawsuit/














William Moreno aka Mr. Misery aka Miz aka Frank Krow is a pedophile. There weren't just one or two posts, but enough to establish a clear and solid pattern. William Moreno also lived with a twice-convicted child molester named Christopher J, Tator, who he helped to evade the sex offender registry requirements. Chris Tator is now back in federal prison.

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William Robert Moreno
some children are very fuckable, let's face it
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/621429.html#msg-621429

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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby in its tight little asshole. And he loved every minute of it.

allegedly.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/656161/656214.html#msg-656214

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William Robert Moreno
I'm about to fuck a baby in his soft spot.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636834.html#msg-636834

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William Robert Moreno
what, you don't wanna help me fuck this baby? we could do double penetration on this toddler bitch. one in each hole. lookit this little slut. she's just beggin' for it. watta fuckin whore.

suck mah dick bee-yotch.....
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636852.html#msg-636852

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William Robert Moreno
one time, I was fucking this baby up the ass, it was crying so I started shaking it. It stopped crying, I came inside it, put it back in its crib, then climbed out the window. I wonder what ever happened to that baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636766.html#msg-636766

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William Robert Moreno
I ate out a toddler's asshole tonight.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636769.html#msg-636769

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William Robert Moreno
hamtaro, wanna help me fuck this baby?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/632214.html#msg-632214

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William Robert Moreno
I raped a baby
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/625583.html#msg-625583

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William Robert Moreno
just got done fucking this baby......man was he sweet. I gave him a reach-around in his sweet little soft spot. It was soooooooooooooooo hot.

we watched Zooballee Zoo after I finished.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/632140/633879.html#msg-633879

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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby...it was consensual
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/625479.html#msg-625479
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/626553.html#msg-626553

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William Robert Moreno
I wish I could have a baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/506690/506705.html#msg-506705

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William Robert Moreno
by the way, I just got done getting a blowjob from a 3 month-old, so I'm all tuckered out........see you guise tomaorrow.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/648453.html#msg-648453

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William Robert Moreno
I don't care if they are underage, I'll still fuck 'em. I'll rape all their highschool boy asses, one by one. I'll cum in each and every one of their gay boy asses, then we'll see who's gay. ... I'll tell ya that much, muchacho!!! I'LL BUTTFUCK EVERY ONE OF YA! 15, 16, 17, DOESN'T MATTER! I'LL ASS-RAPE YOU! I'M A FUCKING MAD MAN! I'LL FUCK ANYTHING THAT MOVES! ASK ANYONE ROUND HERE!
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like, can you get in trouble in any way for just buying a copy of Tiger Beat? If you were a grown man let's say, and you were slightly overweight and had a beard and large glasses and you look a little funny, and you just went into a Walgreens and bought nothing but a copy of Tiger Beat....and maybe also a box of condoms. Could you get arrested based solely on your purchase? Is that probable cause or something? Or if you bought a Kidz Bop CD. Anything like that. If a grown man bought something of that sort, and he looked a little ugly and odd maybe, could he hypothetically get arrested for that?
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William Robert Moreno
is it illegal for a grown man to attempt to have a serious conversation with a kindergarten child about politics or religion, if they are not related and just happen to be sitting next to each other on a park bench or something? Is it really illegal?
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William Robert Moreno
can a grown man and a little girl, unrelated and strangers to each other, have dinner together at a fancy restaurant? Legally? Let's say they meet outside the gym or something and decide to have dinner together, and that's it. That is the extent of the interaction. Is it illegal?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: but this is ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:47PM

Hi William. Wrote:
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> Good morning. You're up early today.

that's not a mugshot
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: You fail and lose so hard ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:47PM

You can't even post a real mugshot.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: not photoshopped bullshit ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:48PM

this is what a real mugshot looks like
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
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Date: September 25, 2020 01:48PM









































































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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Eesh = Male version Trigglypuff ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:48PM

Hi William. Wrote:
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> William Moreno Arrest Record

Hahahahahahahah wow, someone sure is triggered

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz, give it up ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:49PM

Miz, give it up.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Posting fake mugshots ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:50PM

He's very triggered.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: oh noes ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:51PM

William thinks someone else is triggered. Hahaha


William Robert Moreno
Moreno, William Robert
aliases: Frank Krow, Frank_Krow, Mr. Misery, Miz, jimmylegs, Voodooslut

known associates: Christopher James Tator, Chris Tator, Tator Tots

https://wtvr.com/2015/07/25/richmond-man-at-the-center-of-a-reign-of-terror-cyber-bulling-lawsuit/














William Moreno aka Mr. Misery aka Miz aka Frank Krow is a pedophile. There weren't just one or two posts, but enough to establish a clear and solid pattern. William Moreno also lived with a twice-convicted child molester named Christopher J, Tator, who he helped to evade the sex offender registry requirements. Chris Tator is now back in federal prison.

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William Robert Moreno
some children are very fuckable, let's face it
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/621429.html#msg-621429

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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby in its tight little asshole. And he loved every minute of it.

allegedly.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/656161/656214.html#msg-656214

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William Robert Moreno
I'm about to fuck a baby in his soft spot.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636834.html#msg-636834

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William Robert Moreno
what, you don't wanna help me fuck this baby? we could do double penetration on this toddler bitch. one in each hole. lookit this little slut. she's just beggin' for it. watta fuckin whore.

suck mah dick bee-yotch.....
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636852.html#msg-636852

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William Robert Moreno
one time, I was fucking this baby up the ass, it was crying so I started shaking it. It stopped crying, I came inside it, put it back in its crib, then climbed out the window. I wonder what ever happened to that baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636766.html#msg-636766

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William Robert Moreno
I ate out a toddler's asshole tonight.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636769.html#msg-636769

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William Robert Moreno
hamtaro, wanna help me fuck this baby?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/632214.html#msg-632214

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William Robert Moreno
I raped a baby
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/625583.html#msg-625583

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William Robert Moreno
just got done fucking this baby......man was he sweet. I gave him a reach-around in his sweet little soft spot. It was soooooooooooooooo hot.

we watched Zooballee Zoo after I finished.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/632140/633879.html#msg-633879

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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby...it was consensual
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/625479.html#msg-625479
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/626553.html#msg-626553

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William Robert Moreno
I wish I could have a baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/506690/506705.html#msg-506705

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William Robert Moreno
by the way, I just got done getting a blowjob from a 3 month-old, so I'm all tuckered out........see you guise tomaorrow.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/648453.html#msg-648453

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William Robert Moreno
I don't care if they are underage, I'll still fuck 'em. I'll rape all their highschool boy asses, one by one. I'll cum in each and every one of their gay boy asses, then we'll see who's gay. ... I'll tell ya that much, muchacho!!! I'LL BUTTFUCK EVERY ONE OF YA! 15, 16, 17, DOESN'T MATTER! I'LL ASS-RAPE YOU! I'M A FUCKING MAD MAN! I'LL FUCK ANYTHING THAT MOVES! ASK ANYONE ROUND HERE!
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/637654/637753.html#msg-637753

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William Robert Moreno
like, can you get in trouble in any way for just buying a copy of Tiger Beat? If you were a grown man let's say, and you were slightly overweight and had a beard and large glasses and you look a little funny, and you just went into a Walgreens and bought nothing but a copy of Tiger Beat....and maybe also a box of condoms. Could you get arrested based solely on your purchase? Is that probable cause or something? Or if you bought a Kidz Bop CD. Anything like that. If a grown man bought something of that sort, and he looked a little ugly and odd maybe, could he hypothetically get arrested for that?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/777495/777618.html#msg-777618

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William Robert Moreno
is it illegal for a grown man to attempt to have a serious conversation with a kindergarten child about politics or religion, if they are not related and just happen to be sitting next to each other on a park bench or something? Is it really illegal?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/777495/777624.html#msg-777624

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William Robert Moreno
can a grown man and a little girl, unrelated and strangers to each other, have dinner together at a fancy restaurant? Legally? Let's say they meet outside the gym or something and decide to have dinner together, and that's it. That is the extent of the interaction. Is it illegal?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/777495/777625.html#msg-777625






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Posted by: When you post a real mugshot ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:51PM

Miz, give it up Wrote:
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> Miz, give it up.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: we need more ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:51PM

Have some more


















































































































































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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: This is pretty bad ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:52PM

This is what people think Michael basl
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: so much fun ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:53PM

so triggered
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Google fucked ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:53PM

For life
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Fake mugshots ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:53PM

Truth hurts
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: What a real winner looks like ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:54PM

Winning
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: out like a light ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:54PM

have a nice day
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:56PM

any word from lizzie?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He's so triggered he fell out ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:57PM

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: nothing yet? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:57PM

no?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Skss ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:57PM

Who is TJ’s mom talking about in these couple of screen shots!
I know one is EESH, who is the other?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 01:58PM

..
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Four very real mugshots ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:02PM

Still no real mugshot?

Don't worry. There's plenty of you from the many times you spent in multiple different jails.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: too funny ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:02PM

Hi William
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: faggot mugshot ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:04PM

where did this mugshot come from? it's not on any public website and looks like a piece of paper
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Waaahhhh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:06PM

:'(
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Waaahhbh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:08PM

Why miz why
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Posted by: faggot mugshot ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:09PM

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Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:10PM

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:11PM

Hi Mizzer
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: This deserves its own thread ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:11PM

Google fucked. No middle name or city needed.
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Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:12PM

,
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Posted by: victims of google ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:13PM

get ready for fake mugshot manic posting
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:13PM

Hi William, any word from lizzie yet?


William Robert Moreno
Moreno, William Robert
aliases: Frank Krow, Frank_Krow, Mr. Misery, Miz, jimmylegs, Voodooslut

known associates: Christopher James Tator, Chris Tator, Tator Tots

https://wtvr.com/2015/07/25/richmond-man-at-the-center-of-a-reign-of-terror-cyber-bulling-lawsuit/














William Moreno aka Mr. Misery aka Miz aka Frank Krow is a pedophile. There weren't just one or two posts, but enough to establish a clear and solid pattern. William Moreno also lived with a twice-convicted child molester named Christopher J, Tator, who he helped to evade the sex offender registry requirements. Chris Tator is now back in federal prison.

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William Robert Moreno
some children are very fuckable, let's face it
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/621429.html#msg-621429

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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby in its tight little asshole. And he loved every minute of it.

allegedly.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/656161/656214.html#msg-656214

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William Robert Moreno
I'm about to fuck a baby in his soft spot.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636834.html#msg-636834

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William Robert Moreno
what, you don't wanna help me fuck this baby? we could do double penetration on this toddler bitch. one in each hole. lookit this little slut. she's just beggin' for it. watta fuckin whore.

suck mah dick bee-yotch.....
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636852.html#msg-636852

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one time, I was fucking this baby up the ass, it was crying so I started shaking it. It stopped crying, I came inside it, put it back in its crib, then climbed out the window. I wonder what ever happened to that baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636766.html#msg-636766

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William Robert Moreno
I ate out a toddler's asshole tonight.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/636769.html#msg-636769

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William Robert Moreno
hamtaro, wanna help me fuck this baby?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/632214.html#msg-632214

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William Robert Moreno
I raped a baby
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/621151/625583.html#msg-625583

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William Robert Moreno
just got done fucking this baby......man was he sweet. I gave him a reach-around in his sweet little soft spot. It was soooooooooooooooo hot.

we watched Zooballee Zoo after I finished.
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William Robert Moreno
I just fucked a baby...it was consensual
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/619156/625479.html#msg-625479
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William Robert Moreno
I wish I could have a baby.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/506690/506705.html#msg-506705

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William Robert Moreno
by the way, I just got done getting a blowjob from a 3 month-old, so I'm all tuckered out........see you guise tomaorrow.
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/484700/648453.html#msg-648453

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I don't care if they are underage, I'll still fuck 'em. I'll rape all their highschool boy asses, one by one. I'll cum in each and every one of their gay boy asses, then we'll see who's gay. ... I'll tell ya that much, muchacho!!! I'LL BUTTFUCK EVERY ONE OF YA! 15, 16, 17, DOESN'T MATTER! I'LL ASS-RAPE YOU! I'M A FUCKING MAD MAN! I'LL FUCK ANYTHING THAT MOVES! ASK ANYONE ROUND HERE!
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/637654/637753.html#msg-637753

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William Robert Moreno
like, can you get in trouble in any way for just buying a copy of Tiger Beat? If you were a grown man let's say, and you were slightly overweight and had a beard and large glasses and you look a little funny, and you just went into a Walgreens and bought nothing but a copy of Tiger Beat....and maybe also a box of condoms. Could you get arrested based solely on your purchase? Is that probable cause or something? Or if you bought a Kidz Bop CD. Anything like that. If a grown man bought something of that sort, and he looked a little ugly and odd maybe, could he hypothetically get arrested for that?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/777495/777618.html#msg-777618

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is it illegal for a grown man to attempt to have a serious conversation with a kindergarten child about politics or religion, if they are not related and just happen to be sitting next to each other on a park bench or something? Is it really illegal?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/777495/777624.html#msg-777624

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can a grown man and a little girl, unrelated and strangers to each other, have dinner together at a fancy restaurant? Legally? Let's say they meet outside the gym or something and decide to have dinner together, and that's it. That is the extent of the interaction. Is it illegal?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He's back to Katie again ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:14PM

Miz why the fuck don't you leave the girl alone?

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Posted by: Katie? Thats michael basl's name ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:16PM

He's back to Katie again Wrote:
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> Miz why the fuck don't you leave the girl alone?

Why the fuck won't you leave miz alone?

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Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:16PM

Hi Miz
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: want it to stop? stop posting ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:17PM

keep posting about miz and this will keep getting posted and spammed on every thread like the fake mugshots do
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Posted by: miz cries ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:18PM

speaking of tears
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Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:19PM

Hi William
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: tell us ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:19PM

He's back to Katie again Wrote:
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> Miz why the fuck don't you leave the girl alone?

why do you care?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: we know you sniffed it ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:20PM

How did lizzie's dildo smell?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Smelled ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:21PM

Like this
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: dildo ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:21PM

dildo
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Posted by: hay baybay ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:21PM

:)
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Posted by: miz ain't have no moe ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:22PM

but katie did
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Posted by: Ghost of Wild Bill McMillan ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:22PM

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:23PM

This is your problem..
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: We know Monique and William dont ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:23PM

Do any of you people have jobs?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: employment ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:29PM

We know Monique and William dont Wrote:
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> Do any of you people have jobs?

Eesh and Katie both have jobs, as do both of Megan's ex-husbands. Megan was laid off. Miz and Liz are on welfare disability. Peep was, I think, fired.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: One fateful night ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:31PM

That fateful night that started it all
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Deflection ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:31PM

Oh. Hi peep Katie and eesh and Megan's two ex's. Thanks for answering me.

Now, to the person who just responded, I was clearly asking you about your employment not about any of those other people. But I got my answer. Thank you.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Get off the computer sometime ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:32PM

Social security is not welfare.

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Posted by: retired people are on welfare? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:34PM

indeed
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Date: September 25, 2020 02:36PM


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Posted by: ssdi is forever ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:38PM

welfare is temporary. it is food stamps or public housing. neither of which miz or liz have.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Welfare ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:40PM

Basl is on food stamps. He no longer has to steal food from grocery stores or skip out on crappy cheap restaurant bills from cracker barrel.

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Posted by: It is welfare ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:41PM

Get off the computer sometime Wrote:
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> Social security is not welfare.

Social Security Disability is a form of welfare.

Definition of welfare
1: the state of doing well especially in respect to good fortune, happiness, well-being, or prosperity
must look out for your own welfare
2a: aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need
b: an agency or program through which such aid is distributed

https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/is-social-security-welfare/

Since the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare became the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services in 1979, the term “welfare” has fallen into disuse. “Income security,” “entitlement,” or “public assistance programs” are now the usual terms for what used to be called “welfare programs.” Even the food-stamp program has been renamed the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

Regardless of what they are called, it is without dispute that in addition to SNAP, federal programs such as Head Start, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), Supplemental Security Income (SSI), the National School Lunch Program (NSLP), Medi-caid, Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP), the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), subsidized housing, and Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) are welfare programs.

Other welfare programs that are often not viewed as such include the refundable portion of tax credits, unemployment compensation, and Medicare.

Regular tax credits that provide a dollar-for-dollar reduction of the amount of income tax owed are not welfare. They may reduce the tax owed to zero, but if there is no taxable income to begin with, then no credit can be taken. But other credits that are partially (American Opportunity Credit) or fully (Earned Income Credit) refundable are certainly welfare, because if the tax-credit “payment” is more than the tax owed, the taxpayer receives a refund of money he never paid in; that is, he receives some other taxpayer’s money.

The federal government imposed the unemployment-compensation program on the states by means of Titles III, IX, and XII in the Social Security Act of 1935 and the Federal Unemployment Tax Act of 1939 (FUTA). The U.S. Department of Labor oversees the program, but it is administered and mostly funded by the states. Federal unemployment taxes are paid by employers at a rate of 6 percent on the first $7,000 of each employee’s income. The 50 states likewise assess employers an unemployment tax whose maximum can range from 5.4 to 13.5 percent on a wage base of $7,000 to $37,300. (Employers that pay state unemployment taxes are allowed a credit against their federal unemployment tax liability up to 5.4 percent.) Only a few states actually levy some amount of unemployment tax on employees. But regardless of what the tax rate and wage base are, the amount of unemployment compensation received has no relation to the amount of tax paid in. And of course, the unemployed worker who receives benefits most likely never paid anything in anyway.

Medicare is government-funded health care for Americans who are age 65 or over or are permanently disabled. It actually consists of four parts: Part A (hospital insurance), Part B (supplemental medical insurance), Part C (Medicare Advantage Program), and Part D (prescription-drug benefit). Part A is funded, at least on paper, by a payroll tax of 2.9 percent (split between employer and employee) on all of an employee’s earnings. Participation in Parts B, C, and D is voluntary. They are funded by a combination of income-based beneficiary premiums and taxpayer subsidies. Less than 25 percent of the Medicare prescription-drug program is funded by premiums. There is absolutely no relation between the Medicare taxes paid and the benefits received. Enrollment in Medicare is open to all those who are U.S. citizens or have been permanent legal residents for five continuous years and who (or whose spouses) have paid Medicare taxes for a minimum of 40 quarters (ten years). Someone who has paid Medicare taxes continuously since the program began in 1966 receives the same benefits as someone who just began paying Medicare taxes 10 years ago. Someone can pay Medicare taxes his whole working life and, if he is healthy, not receive a dime in benefits or otherwise get any of his “contribution” back.

All of those welfare programs are clearly unconstitutional and illegitimate functions of the federal government. They are socialistic, they foster dependency on the government, they are income-transfer programs, they shift responsibility from the individual and families to society and the state, they are wealth-redistribution plans, they contribute to class warfare, they are collectivist, they crowd out real charity, they are social-engineering schemes.

The mechanics of Social Security

Although Social Security is all of those things and more, rarely is it ever viewed as a welfare program.

Social Security is properly a federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program. It provides benefits for retirement, disability, survivorship, and death to about 55 million Americans at a price to approximately 157 million taxpayers of more than $800 billion a year. The program actually consists of two separate parts. Under the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) part of the program, monthly benefits are paid to retired workers, their families, and survivors of deceased workers. Under the Disability Insurance (DI) part of the program, monthly benefits are paid to disabled workers and their families.

Like Medicare, Social Security is “funded” by pay-roll tax deductions from both employers and employees. After beginning at a rate of 2 percent (split between employers and employees) on a taxable wage base of $3,000, by 1990 the rate was up to 12.4 percent with a wage base of $51,300. The wage base is currently up to $110,100. But as part of a deal reached between Democrats and Republicans in late 2010 to extend the Bush income-tax cuts, the rate of the employee share of Social Security taxes was lowered from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent for one year (2011). And then, after first being temporarily extended until the end of February 2012, the rate cut was extended until the end of 2012.

The original retirement age to receive full benefits was 65. For those born after 1937, the age has been gradually increased. For those born during the period of 1943–1954, the full retirement age is 66. For those born after 1960, it is 67. Reduced benefits are available for those who have reached the age of 62 and wish to begin receiving their benefits. However, the amount doesn’t increase once the full retirement age is reached. Those who delay receiving benefits until after their full retirement age earn credits that increase their benefit until they reach age 70.

Also like Medicare, one must pay Social Security taxes for a minimum of 40 quarters to be eligible. Social Security benefits are figured on the basis of one’s Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), the average of a worker’s 35 highest years of earnings (up to a particular year’s wage base), adjusted for inflation.

But aside from the mechanics of the Social Security system that many Americans are familiar with, there are some things about the system that are unknown to most Americans or better left unsaid.

Social Security is the cornerstone of the welfare state. It is a relic from the New Deal. It is the third rail of American politics — touch it and you commit political suicide. It is the largest annual expenditure of the federal government. It has trillions in unfunded liabilities. It is the first plank in the federal government’s effort to create a class of citizenry that is dependent on the government.

Social Security does not have a real trust fund. It does not have a physical lock box. It is not an insurance program. There is no contractual right to receive it. Its taxes are not actually invested. It is not a safety net. It is not funded by premiums or contributions.

Social Security is not a retirement account. It is not an investment account. It is not a pension plan. It is not an IRA. It is not a savings account. It is not a return on investment. It is not a government 401(k) or 403(b) plan. It is not an annuity.

Social Security is an intergenerational, income-transfer, wealth-redistribution welfare program. The federal government takes taxes from the youth and adult working population and spends the money on the boondoggles that 90 percent of the federal budget consists of. Then, as those populations reach retirement age, it takes new taxes from the current group of working youths and adults and gives it to the former group and calls it Social Security benefits.

Social Security is welfare.

Most Americans would never consider Social Security to be welfare because they think that they paid, or are paying, into the system their whole working lives and therefore earned, or are earning, their benefits and are just receiving, or will be receiving, their contributions back with interest.

But there are several reasons that Social Security is welfare.

Some people think that Social Security isn’t welfare simply because part of the payroll tax collected under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) is listed on pay stubs as being taken for Social Security and the other part as being taken for Medicare. That’s it. If the taxes extracted from Americans’ paychecks were called simply “payroll taxes,” then the notion that Social Security is not just another form of welfare would vanish overnight. Social Security would then be viewed as welfare for seniors, just as TANF is viewed as welfare for the poor, WIC is viewed as welfare for new mothers, and SSI is viewed as welfare for the disabled.

Social Security is welfare because there is no connection between the taxes paid and the benefits received. Take two men who are the same age and have identical incomes. One works for exactly 35 years, reaches full retirement age, and then retires. The other works for 45 years, reaches full retirement age, and then retires. Since Social Security benefits are based on the average of a worker’s 35 highest years of earnings, as related above, the benefit amount that these two men receive every month will be substantially the same. The fact that each man paid vastly different amounts into the system yet received basically the same benefits is irrefutable proof that there is no connection between Social Security taxes and benefits.

Social Security is welfare because Congress may, at will, change the Social Security benefit schedule at any time. According to Title XI, section 1104 of the Social Security Act, “The right to alter, amend, or repeal any provision of this Act is hereby reserved to Congress.” That means that Social Security taxes can be changed at any time with no change in Social Security benefits; conversely, Social Security benefits can be changed at any time with no change in Social Security taxes. According to the Social Security Administration website,

• Your earnings may increase or decrease in the future.

• After you start receiving benefits, they will be adjusted for cost-of-living increases.

• Your estimated benefits are based on current law. The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2036, the payroll taxes collected will be enough to pay only about 77 percent of scheduled benefits.

• Your benefit amount may be affected by military service, railroad employment or pensions earned through work on which you did not pay Social Security tax.

When the Social Security tax rate was lowered to 4.2 percent beginning in 2011 (and where it will probably stay, since neither party wants to be seen as raising taxes on low-income Americans), no one’s Social Security benefits were cut, nor will future benefits be cut because of the reduction in the tax rate (although benefits may be cut for other reasons). Social Security taxes exist simply for the purpose of raising revenue. And they have been increased some 20 times since the program began.

Social Security is welfare because there is no contractual right to receive benefits. The Supreme Court already ruled as much many years ago. In the case of Helvering v. Davis (1937), the Court ruled that “the proceeds of both [employee and employer] taxes are to be paid into the Treasury like internal revenue taxes generally, and are not earmarked in any way.” In Fleming v. Nestor (1960), the Court held,

The noncontractual interest of an employee covered by the Act cannot be soundly analogized to that of the holder of an annuity, whose right to benefits are [sic] based on his contractual premium payments.

To engraft upon Social Security a concept of “accrued property rights” would deprive it of the flexibility and boldness in adjustment to ever-changing conditions which it demands and which Congress probably had in mind when it expressly reserved the right to alter, amend or repeal any provision of the Act.

Title VIII, section 807, of the Social Security Act simply reads, “The taxes imposed by this title shall be collected by the Bureau of Internal Revenue under the direction of the Secretary of the Treasury and shall be paid into the Treasury of the United States as internal-revenue collections.” This tax collection began on January 1, 1937. The so-called Social Security Trust Fund was not instituted until January 1, 1940.

Social Security should be considered welfare because it is not an investment with a rate of return. Roosevelt falsely promoted Social Security to Americans as a “savings account for the old age of the worker” with contributions made by employers and employees through payroll taxes “held by the government solely for the benefit of the worker in his old age.” The first beneficiary to receive a Social Security check was Ida May Fuller in 1940. After paying in just $24.75 in Social Security taxes, she went on to collect $22,888 in benefits. According to a 2002 Congressional Research Service report on “Social Security Reform,” workers who retired at full retirement age in 1980 got back all they paid into Social Security, with interest, in 2.8 years. On the other hand, someone can pay into the system his whole working life and, if he dies upon retirement without dependents, his “savings account” dies with him. Even George W. Bush recognized the nature of the system:

Some in our country think that Social Security is a trust fund — in other words, there’s a pile of money being accumulated. That’s just simply not true. The money — payroll taxes going into the Social Security are spent. They’re spent on benefits and they’re spent on government programs. There is no trust. We’re on the ultimate pay-as-you-go system — what goes in comes out.

Social Security is welfare because the government can tax up to 85 percent of Social Security benefits. Although Social Security benefits are generally not taxable, individuals have to pay income tax on 50 percent of their benefits if the total of one-half of their benefits and their other income (including nontaxable interest income) is between $25,000 and $34,000 ($32,000 and $44,000 if married filing jointly) and on 85 percent of their benefits if their combined income is above $34,000 ($44,000 if married filing jointly). If an American is entitled to Social Security benefits because he earned them by paying Social Security taxes his entire working life, then what is the government doing taxing them just as it taxes unemployment benefits?

Conclusion

Social Security should not be saved, reformed, or privatized. The Social Security system is currently, has always been, and will forever be a system where money is taken from those who work and is given to those who don’t. Taking someone’s income in order to give it to someone else, whether the government takes it or a thief takes it, whether the taker has a good motive or evil intentions, or whether the receiver needs or just wants the money, is unethical, immoral, and criminal.

Social Security must be recognized for what it really is before it can ever be humanely, efficiently, and completely eliminated.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: goodness me ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:42PM

imagine being so poor you can't afford to pay a tab from cracker barrel and get arrested for stealing from kroger and steal from safeway
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Welfare ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:44PM

Social Security is Welfare.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: pretty genius if you ask me ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:45PM

It is welfare Wrote:
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> 2a: aid in the form of money or necessities for
> those in need


neither miz or liz are in need. they have other people taking care of them. they are just lazy and pulled the crazy card to get free money and not having to ever work

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: so it pays to be lazy and crazy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:46PM

Welfare Wrote:
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> Social Security is Welfare.

ok. well getting paid to not going to work sounds like a dream to me. give me some fucking welfare.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Lazy and crazy does indeed pay ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:47PM

Moreno claims he gets social security because of his hip being injured, but only uses a cane in court and was able to case down Monique and eesh one night.

Monique gets social security after being declared criminally insane in court and was helped through the department of corrections.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Not Permanent ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:49PM

ssdi is forever Wrote:
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> welfare is temporary. it is food stamps or public
> housing. neither of which miz or liz have.

Not true. They are all welfare. Nothing is "permanent" and the benefits from both programs can be changed or eliminated at any time.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: first the girlfriend now free $$ ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:50PM

Lazy and crazy does indeed pay Wrote:
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> Monique gets social security after being declared
> criminally insane in court and was helped through
> the department of corrections.

another wonderful thing miz did for her

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Win win ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:53PM

Yeah, getting free money to sit home and tap some ass and not having to worry about disclosing a felony status to a job must be nice.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Gov't says SSI is WELFARE ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:56PM

The Social Security Administration itself says that SSI is in fact WELFARE.

"Administered by the Social Security Administration (SSA), SSI is the nation's largest welfare program"

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v65n3/v65n3p14.html

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: remember that prison dog show? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:56PM

technically lizzie does have a job with the dog rescue place. those places don't care about felons. they are their best workers. pitbulls and parolees tv show helped that along. they have limited access to people so it's not a big deal.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: try to keep up now ()
Date: September 25, 2020 02:58PM

Gov't says SSI is WELFARE Wrote:
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you're still on that? everyone else has already moved on. no one is arguing with you sport. they get free money for doing nothing while you have to work for 50 years. they are the losers. we get it.

welfare.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: It's pretty much like that ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:00PM

remember that prison dog show? Wrote:
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> technically lizzie does have a job with the dog
> rescue place. those places don't care about
> felons. they are their best workers. pitbulls and
> parolees tv show helped that along. they have
> limited access to people so it's not a big deal.

This.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: So Monique has a job ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:01PM

Well what sort of job is Moreno doing?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: The meaning of things ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:03PM

The idiot who claims SSI is not welfare is probably the same one who claimed that a cash transaction is limited to paper currency, not certified checks, money orders, etc. People such as Miz sit in their basement drawing doodles and obsessing over other men all day. They never actually learn how society works or even how to communicate. It's ironic they don't understand the meaning of even simple words like "cash" and "welfare".

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz has a job ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:05PM

So Monique has a job Wrote:
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> Well what sort of job is Moreno doing?

He sits in his mother's basement and posts about eesh and Katie all day on Fairfax Underground.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: The Meaning Matters ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:06PM

The meaning of things Wrote:
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> The idiot who claims SSI is not welfare is
> probably the same one who claimed that a cash
> transaction is limited to paper currency, not
> certified checks, money orders, etc. People such
> as Miz sit in their basement drawing doodles and
> obsessing over other men all day. They never
> actually learn how society works or even how to
> communicate. It's ironic they don't understand
> the meaning of even simple words like "cash" and
> "welfare".


or "WORK"

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Professional defendant ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:06PM

So Monique has a job Wrote:
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> Well what sort of job is eesh doing?

He's a career criminal, thief, stalker, professional courtroom defendant and bankruptcy expert.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Redeemed ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:07PM

Monique wins.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Monique helps animals ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:08PM

Moreno kills animals
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: The actual facts ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:09PM

Professional defendant Wrote:
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> So Monique has a job Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well what sort of job is eesh doing?
>
> He's a career criminal, thief, stalker,
> professional courtroom defendant and bankruptcy
> expert.

He is a bankruptcy expert, but none of the others. Eesh has 2 minor misdemeanor convictions, for honking his car horn at Miz and tootguy. Sounds like a real hard-core criminal, LOL.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Ghost of Starban ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:11PM

Think lizzie's hospital can fix Starban?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: idiot says what? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:11PM

The meaning of things Wrote:
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> The idiot who claims SSI is not welfare is
> probably the same one who claimed that a cash
> transaction is limited to paper currency, not
> certified checks, money orders, etc.

money in coins or notes, as distinct from checks, money orders, or credit.
"the staff were paid in cash
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: community service boy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:13PM

The actual facts Wrote:
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> He is a bankruptcy expert, but none of the others.
> Eesh has 2 minor misdemeanor convictions, for
> honking his car horn at Miz and tootguy. Sounds
> like a real hard-core criminal, LOL.

bankrupt professional courtroom defendant is more like it. he is a self admitted thief who has been arrested for shoplifting tampons and dines and dashes because he is too poor to afford anything
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Clumps ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:14PM

Ghost of Starban Wrote:
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> Think lizzie's hospital can fix Starban?

No. Monique claims eesh pissed in his ashes when he broke into his house that night.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Internal Revenue Service ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:14PM

idiot says what? Wrote:
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> The meaning of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The idiot who claims SSI is not welfare is
> > probably the same one who claimed that a cash
> > transaction is limited to paper currency, not
> > certified checks, money orders, etc.
>
> money in coins or notes, as distinct from
> checks, money orders, or credit.

> "the staff were paid in cash

The IRS says otherwise. According to the IRS, cashier’s checks, bank drafts, traveler’s checks or money orders with a face value up to $10,000 are also "Cash Transactions" and must be reported.

Furthermore, according to International Accounting Standard 7 (IAS 7), Cash “comprises cash on hand and demand deposits”. A demand deposit is a type of an account from which funds can be withdrawn at any time without having to inform the bank or depository institution. Most checking and saving accounts are demand deposits.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: miz is a little testy today ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:15PM

Redeemed Wrote:
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> Monique wins.

we need that dog to eat miz's one ball off

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: really don't care little girl ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:16PM

Internal Revenue Service Wrote:
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> The IRS says otherwise.

k

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: miz is pure shit ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:18PM

Monique helps animals Wrote:
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> Moreno kills animals

didn't he kill her weasel too?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: IRS ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:23PM

The IRS makes the rules for what constitutes a cash transaction. Those who disagree do so at their own peril.

In any business outside the criminal underworld, "cash" usually includes certified checks, money orders, and forms of immediate guaranteed payment where there no surcharge.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: still talking about that? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:28PM

told you to move on
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Speaking of that ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:32PM

Did we ever find out who the brick house belongs to?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Speaking of Stealing ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:36PM

William Moreno is a thief in addition to his other crimes.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: you tried though you really did ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:37PM

that would be believeable except for the simple fact that moreno has and never will have any friends

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: The end ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:41PM

Well this thread is getting fizzled out. Before I go I will say this.

If you don't want any nudes posted stop trolling Miz.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Autism increases with time ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:46PM

you tried though you really did Wrote:
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> that would be believeable except for the simple
> fact that moreno has and never will have any
> friends

Miz didn't go "Full Retard" until he got older. His autism and assburger have gotten progressively worse throughout his life. When Miz was little he once almost smiled, and there were some neighborhood boys whose penises he played with.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ok silly billy no willy ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:46PM

see you later tonight
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Fuck you Miz ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:47PM

The end Wrote:
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> Well this thread is getting fizzled out. Before I
> go I will say this.
>
> If you don't want any nudes posted stop trolling
> Miz.

Fuck you William.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: well would you look at that shit ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:48PM

you two obviously want the nudes to be posted

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz is a thief ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:49PM

Miz steals music also. He claims he does not steal an "current" music.

Re: I still buy CDs
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: June 06, 2010 05:52PM

I don't steal any current music.......

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Uh huh... ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:50PM

Do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better, shoplifter.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He's never ever had any friends ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:53PM

Autism increases with time Wrote:
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> Miz didn't go "Full Retard" until he got older.

That's a lie.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Uh Oh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:55PM

Uh huh... Wrote:
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> Do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel
> better, shoplifter.

Ok hello burglar.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: fake story is fake as hell ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:56PM

miz has no friends so that's obviously a fake story

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz is a burglar ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:57PM

Were those the last friends you had?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Here it comes ()
Date: September 25, 2020 03:59PM

Basl is triggered

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: still not eesh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:03PM

Here it comes Wrote:
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> Basl is triggered

Nope William, I'm not your bisexual man-crush. Keep guessing though.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Miz is sure feeling feisty today ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:05PM

This must be one of his "up" days.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ok eesh ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:05PM

k
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: ok Miz ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:11PM

k
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Ok Miz ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:13PM

here you go
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: since Miz is here ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:25PM

Hey Mizzer, can you clear up what you did to that tranny kid Colton West? You really pissed off his aunt. Was it about sex or drugs or both? It's been suggested he was getting drugs from you and reselling them. He did not die of an overdose, and his body was dumped in a remote part of the county, coincidentally very close to where your ally Chuck lives. Chuck has mysteriously disappeared; do you keep in touch with him?
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: no response? ()
Date: September 25, 2020 04:40PM

Well Mizzer?

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Shattered Shithole Sharon ()
Date: September 25, 2020 05:10PM

Miz is busy having his afternoon anal sex session with his mom.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Definitely not Elvis Presley ()
Date: September 26, 2020 10:30AM

"are you lonesome ...."

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Lonely...Mr Lonely ()
Date: September 26, 2020 08:46PM

he has nobody, to call his own...

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: .move it up here ()
Date: September 26, 2020 09:26PM

C'mon Man!

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Well? ()
Date: September 27, 2020 05:43PM

Asking for a friend

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Mo is Happy AF ()
Date: October 09, 2020 11:04AM

good

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: He never responded ()
Date: October 09, 2020 11:46AM

since Miz is here Wrote:
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> Hey Mizzer, can you clear up what you did to that
> tranny kid Colton West? You really pissed off his
> aunt. Was it about sex or drugs or both? It's
> been suggested he was getting drugs from you and
> reselling them. He did not die of an overdose,
> and his body was dumped in a remote part of the
> county, coincidentally very close to where your
> ally Chuck lives. Chuck has mysteriously
> disappeared; do you keep in touch with him?

Why

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Aston ()
Date: October 10, 2020 05:24AM

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: alanso ()
Date: November 03, 2020 09:44AM

I dont really like Dating sites, I like live communication. I am busy writing articles for my blog. For example, How the Workplace has Changed. I think, in this situation, it is better to spend time with the benefit of the mind :)

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Buh-bye ()
Date: November 06, 2020 05:59PM

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: Hope ur hangin out ()
Date: November 12, 2020 07:19PM

on your birthday

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: kill yourself, faggot ()
Date: November 12, 2020 07:44PM

Hope you are getting closer to throwing yourself under a bus or train. Or perhaps taking a dive over Niagara Falls.

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Re: how's your loneliness and depression now?
Posted by: he almost smiled ()
Date: November 12, 2020 08:57PM

funny shit cuh

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