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China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: nobody fired IBM made in china ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:29PM

Nvidia china admits to owning ARM/linux/ubuntu, sept 15 2020

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/3463729/3463729.html#msg-3463729

* ARM advertises it is a reduced instruction set, that Intel cannot fit their bloated code on a chip ...

* fact: USA invented large scale production of computer chips and the chip

* fact: USA invented RISC (reduced instruction) for SCSI host controllers and for postscript printers (printers you can log-in to, btw), ie, the Z80


* fact: ARM is bloated: it has stolen java on it, slower math functions, a south bridge bus, built-in video card, built-in stolen USB technology (non-intel-hci), sound chip. MOST OF WHICH IS PROPRIETARY AND chinese-officially not part of ARM ...


* developers are hog washed when they try to access multimedia or competitive non-cpu features of arm except through "official channels" (game dev kits for particular phones or platforms chinese want free software to be made for, but not any developer level source code)


* fact: it's not the instruction set of ARM that is reduced. what is reduced is that CHINA DOESN'T SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT ARM CHIPS with developers except a petty small instruction set which is ___not the full instruction set BTW



* Intel publishes ALL of it's features in excellent easy to read documentation - and ARM has stolen from those documents illegally. intel has been making SoC chips of some kind since at least early 1990's (ie, integrated analog/digital video). intel did not integrate BUS on these because many board manufacturers (meaning asians) insisted on using non-intel bus chips and insisted "USA NOT BREACH NON-COMPETITIVE RULES". but intel could have. (today, all chipmakers do it but not on all models)

* TODAY, Intel CPU have built-in WIFI but not Wifi that reaches cell towers, this is due to democrat insisting "it wouldn't be secure" while at the same time: democrats have outsourced ALL usa cell phone making and ALL handset/landline phone (the chips) to CHINA

* Intel has always been held back from europeans claiming that Intel features limit competition and are "unfair"

YOU SEE WHY LYING SACKS OF SHIT THEY ARE

(intel should disreguard all previous anti-competitive laws, all telephone company laws, and compete the way their competitors do: CHEAT LIKE HELL)

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: gtrhhrg ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:29PM

little red riding hood

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: WHAT IS A RISC CHIP ? ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:43PM

FIRST OF ALL, it's unrelated to Soc (sytem on a chip, a chip having more than just a computational / memory circuit, and probably analog ability - although there's really no such thing as "digital circuitry" it's all analog inside - digital means only 2 states are used - per say). today's chips have millions of circuits (not transistors - fully circuit boards)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Alpha

DEC ALPHA WAS NOT FASTER BECAUSE IT HAD A REDUCED INSTRUCTION SET, dec deleted instructions (limited space) but replaced them with 64bit width AND extra circuits (such as "branch delay") for accelerating (today, generally referred to as branch prediction)

RISC IS NOT FASTER OR BETTER, it is only "bloated in a different way", IT RUNS AT THE SAME SPEED

(dec alpha clocked faster due to cooling and nm technology and the power supply were very slighly better, not because it was a "risc chip". however, colloquially in the PC world, no one had money for DEC except big business and government, and people said "it has a higher clock and runs faster because it has reduced instructions". THIS WAS A FALLACY)

BUT THAT FALLACY IS A FALLICY THAT UK/CHINA CHINA IS STILL TRYING TO PROMOTE

amazing how evil china and uk/german partners who aid china are

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: WHAT IS A RISC CHIP ? ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:47PM

64 was kinda an advertising ploy for DEC, since the OSes at the time were 32bit and didn't convert to 64bit easily or "nicely" at all

The intel DID HAVE 64 bit - only on the math. DEC had no math.

the DEC ALPHA failed to do math intensive applications faster than Intel but did run "simple instruction applications" faster than the Intel = only when compared to an intel chip made the same year (not future models)

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: t4uyjk ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:48PM


RISC IS NOT FASTER OR BETTER, it is only "bloated in a different way", IT RUNS AT THE SAME SPEED

ALSO: ARM IS NOT RISC. IT IS SIMPLY THEY REFUSE TO PUBLISH TO OPEN SOURCE ANYTHIGN BUT A FEW TRIVIAL ASM INSTRUCTIONS

(dec alpha clocked faster due to cooling and nm technology and the power supply were very slighly better, not because it was a "risc chip". however, colloquially in the PC world, no one had money for DEC except big business and government, and people said "it has a higher clock and runs faster because it has reduced instructions". THIS WAS A FALLACY)

BUT THAT FALLACY IS A FALLICY THAT UK/CHINA CHINA IS STILL TRYING TO PROMOTE

amazing how evil china and uk/german partners who aid china are


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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: WHAT IS A RISC CHIP ? ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:54PM

the DEC also was not "a true 64 chip", it was filled with instructions allowing 32bit and 8 bit and 1 bit access for compatibility, as well, it's instruction width was 32 not 64. amazingly, DEC "reduced set" contained new instructions which boasted improved multimedia performance. reduced? or just hacked? more is not less is that not so?

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: wikipdedia devil liars ()
Date: September 17, 2020 03:58PM

wikipedia says "SPARC" chips were first RISC chis (they were not) and MADE IN JAPAN

THE TRUTH IS THEY WERE MADE IN USA, later agreements were made between chip-makers to "help consumers" - hitachia, usa, russia (did i miss anyone?) began printing Spark licensed chips so that all countries were running UNIX using the same basic processor.

NOT LONG LATER, ALL COUNTRIES PULLED OUT OF THE AGREEMENTS

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: 9087fd ()
Date: September 18, 2020 02:55PM

another fake advertisement by nVidia is that graphics processors are "artificial intelligence"

nothing could be further from the truth

also the AI code they are talking about amounts to this poppy cock:

(1) you must make a rule of the action to receive when a number is received (it may be stored, used in calculation, ignored). THIS ONLY AMOUNTS TO TYPICAL PROGRAMMING - what one "typically does", except it is extremely limited: one can ONLY work within the straight jacket of "specifying type", "specifying pattern", "specifying statistic".

(you have to tell it what to do with data using that awfully limited language)

there is separate (cost you money) software where you merely hand a google program the data and it decides what to do based on past data. but these are just "guessing programs". the tie betweeen your "rules" and how it guesses are totally defunct - weak. (no matter how long it runs it will make bad decisions, wasting your time and money: it is a guesser not a learner)

it is true that using processors on any peripheral that allow it *might* accelerate overall computation speed. however - you include that you need a special "AI command" compiler, development time is 100x worse, and you have no benchmarks anywhere to find of AI running code compared to an Intel core programming running the equivalent code ?? you've killed it. offloading work load to cores only "works" when you SAVE time and BENCHMARKING FASTER. nVidia AI has none of that.



THE AI FEATURE IS ABSOLUTE NOT THERE. THE WHOLE AI PROGRAMMING THEY ARE RUNNING IS A TOTAL SCAM. it is just programming using an awful language is what they are selling



merely putting a straight jacket on coding language and "letting a peripheral do some of the code running" does NOT mean that typical end users are getting their worth while out of it


MYTH: face recognition is AI

FACT: it is math that has been known for hundreds of years and has ABSOLUTELY ZERO TO DO WITH AI. the job is 99% math+programming and 0.000001% statistical consideration*


* a fact that google hides deep withing their pony AI library suites - that facial recognition is actually a math program not AI, and GOOGLE DOES MATH BADLY but *MIGHT*, MIGHT use a graphics processor to aid it (or it is a chinese lie, and the "ai engine" is actually software that never runs on the video card - a very old cheat in the software/hardware industry - very old cheat). (this only might be helpful if your not running a 3D game while it's happening: if you are - then it's actually counter productive). which processor to use and what kind of coding is a hot topic in top notch gaming and it's not one completely solved yet either - not nearly except for the simples case (1 cpu, 1 card).

MYTH: speech recognition is AI

FACT: it's 99% math and 0.0000001% statistical. the GOV has used federal funding to build voice processing for many decades - before most millenials were born. china got that research free, as well as "dragon speak" and others.

does Siri really learn how you talk? or does Siri keep axing you to say the word over and over until you "prounouce it well"? She keeps asking. because she never learns. voice AI hardly exists and voice recognition has zero to do with AI

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: 9087fd ()
Date: September 18, 2020 03:06PM

what about Siri's ability to offer advice after Siri has used math to determine what you've said?

#1 Siri is software run by the telephone company, proprietary, NOT ON YOUR PHONE, so the idea your andriod AI is involved is A MYTH. all done by telephone company computers because your home computer "just won't do it" and they really "refuse to share that software" (except with the chinese, duh). the last person to get the software is the one who paid for it :) the last person to get a book in the world is the USA (gov, industry, foreign countries all get books free - only in USA do they cost money - the last person to get information is the people who actually pay the bill)

#2 yes, when Siri offers advice that is a "help system", it's aso software run by the telephone company, and it is PARTLY AI, but largely, a help system which has pre-programmed "best responses" (which is NOT ai). different people asking siri the same question in a different conversation are likely to get THE SAME ANSWER, meaning AI was never "utilized" in the transaction

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: rdfh ()
Date: September 18, 2020 03:56PM

what else is ARM up to other than false advertising and hiding ownership under 1,000 flim flam legal transactions ?

* ARM8.1 versus 8.x released a backwards compatibility bug that FORCES UPGRADE, insidiously the new instructoin "supports compatibility" but is missing in 8.1, meaning when ubuntu utilizes it (and ruled by chinese, ubuntu certainly will), you will not be able to upgrade (read: YOUR FUCKED), if you have 8.1. when you upgrade you have only altered compatibility with 32bit, which, btw, ubuntu doesn't really support: ubuntu supports forced upgrade to 64bit ONLY. ARM/ubuntu/china WILL CONTINUE THIS TREND. it is called strong armed tactics / sales.

* COMPILERS. ubuntu/china is ___INFAMOUS()_ in linux for destroying the gcc (stolen usa C compiler) to make source code un-compilable (a compiler that refuses to compile? of course - if it's made in china that's what you should expect: here's why: WAR)

ARM, legally calling itself risc. Few millenials knew, but DEC ALPHA RISC required "special compilers" because it processed instructions out of order to "save die space". it means only a proprietary compiler will work and if you get a 3rd party compiler you are "out of the game". to be in the game you must be "using global money to hoard compiler tech" + "control changes to compiler"

NOW, that in the hands of chinese?

WHAT THEY WILL DO IS INSURE THAT Apple, Intel, gcc, clang, all those compilers fail to build code that work

meanwhile the chinese have stolen Apple's CODE WARRIOR suite (apple's long paid up and paid out achievment to date)

with chinese in charge: they will make "genetic mutations" to the ARM chip causing everyone else's compilers to fail (need rewrite). it will be difficult because the information will come LATE and INCOMPLETE.

IT WILL MEAN NO ONE CAN COMPILE CODE UNLESS USING CHINA'S COMPILER, which they will not share - china only shares crap that brakes (broken linux drivers, malware). china never shares Win10 driver source code mind you.

IT WILL MEAN CONSUMERS CAN'T COMPILE, and companies like Apple have to use "teams of staff to upgrade" or simply quit making software altogether

LOCKING EVERYONE OUT OF COMPILING WILL MAKE CHINA KING OF ILL GOTTEN GAINS

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: rgtfhb ()
Date: September 18, 2020 04:08PM

ubuntu/china is ___INFAMOUS()_ in linux for destroying the gcc

it turns out the gcc replacement "that won" (also that Apple of California STOLE FROM VIRGINIA,USA) (note: apples fine line of code warrior does not use clang, clang is only a complementary part of apple's developer distric)

turns out "clang" is developed by usa taxpayer money at a virginia college (big tech always uses someone elses money and claims they own it outright)

TURNS OUT THAT PROFESSOR who heads "clang" project WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH RUSSIANS and possibly does so on the orient express. the professor continually works with russians, has them in the country, uses their source code

Clang cannot compile "older C source code" correctly (it does so better than gcc, which attacked both C and C++). as discussed above: rule #1 for corrupt tech is "everyone but me dies, all their code must be re-written at their cost and i win"

objective C is apple's own child based on AT&T c++, however apple reports using clang for objective C

(what is clang? it is stolen at&t C or C++ compiler which isn't full C and very not C++ compatible. it uses "fast language recognition" AT&T C/unix did (which can be faulty and requires allot of work arounds to make fast), but it uses A NEW CUSTOM LANGUAGE for it (copy lefted) and, unlike older C compilers, does have better debugging support. the old rule for C was "don't make mistakes and you won't need debugging - debugging is a fool's waste of time", btw. debug templates is what clang strongly supports.)

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: rgtfhb ()
Date: September 18, 2020 04:14PM

(AT&T C was made to be a helper for ASSEMBLER language knowlegable developers, it was made to be extensible but was never meant to be a "3rd level simple language".
there were other languages that were. what assholes are doing is destroying C and replacing it with a simpler "thing" that isn't C, isn't C compatible, IS GOD AWFUL AT ASSEMBLER LEVEL PROGRAMMING (puts in wrong asm codes gcc - fucking chinese))

but if you want an easy language why not use an easy one like Pascal? why would you destroy C, take previous verions off the market and MAKE SURE THEY NO LONGER RUN in your new ubuntu environment, and have a "destroyed C" in it's place using it's name?


THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE: THEY ARE TERRORISTS*



* it is part of attacking usa. it wasn't un-planned it was continual agressive actons to make these goals happen. destroyed compilers. only china has the key to compiler changes, only china can compile ultimiately

apple will find out their deal with ARM is a deal with the devil

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: TO STUPID MILLENIALS ()
Date: September 18, 2020 04:18PM

usa (and foreigners) used to make C COMPILER PCI CARDS (and you could have multiple). ASIC compiler. companies compiling allot could have a machine with a few of these puppies and get allot of code compiled quickly

ALL THOSE CARDS ARE DEAD THE SECOND YOU CHANGE A SINGLE AT&T C STANDARD

and those fuckers know it

and who controls the changlings, is a terrorist, and is who #wins

that is until lawsuits and wars over the false winnings

they are dragging the game out decades hoping everyone who knows the game dies and

ALL THE OBAMA LIED TO MILLENIALS BELIEVE CHINA HAD ALWAYS BEEN IN CONTROL OF TECHNOLOGY

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: TO STUPID MILLENIALS ()
Date: September 18, 2020 04:28PM

to a programmer - changing a standard is a sin. and there are books on how to avoid it (most of which is common sense - but introducing new standards was itself standardized in before Bill Clinton and china came along)

AND THIS, KNOWINGLY, IS WHY "DELETE CULTURE" has been a coined term in California

they know what is going down, they know exactly what they are doing is poison

CHINA LEADING CONTINUAL CHANGES IN STANDARDS THEY CONTROL (quietly have quick keys that makes their changeovers rapid and others take years, always far behind the cuve) THAT DELETE'S EVERYONE ELSE'S COMPATIBILITY IS NOTHING SHORT OF A TECHNOLOGY APOCOLYPSE, where only the chinese survive

nothing short of apocolypse

======================

back to business. if you want "easy programming" and don't like ASM and C don't use them right? any fool would know that. the first thing people learn about any "language" is that their are "high levels" and "low levels"

but not these fools? these are not fools. they are terrorists using excuses.

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: TO STUPID MILLENIALS ()
Date: September 18, 2020 05:16PM

THERE WAS ALLOT OF NEWS (which communists have deleted for propaganda reason) ABOUT WHY RISC NEVER BEAT INTEL

ONE NOT MENTIONED ABOVE IS THIS FACTUAL NEWS ITEM:

* RISC WAS NOT FAST IN GENERAL

because it used "out of order execution", only orderless computations excelled

(and as said above, any code that was deterministic had to be specially compiled by a hacked compiler OR IT WOULD BE A PROGRAM BUG and fail / lock up)


the news is that programs that "were more deterministic, like math often is, like computer administration often is, were not faster", this is because if most of the program isn't non-deterministic, the out of order #wins don't happen, and all of code ends up being specializd compiler hacks to avoid determination loss

so code that is highly deterministic ACTUALLY RUNS A BIT SLOWER on a true original RISC system



there were many other articles of pro's and con's, it was a popular science debate back in the 1990's when many people couldn't even afford a 486DX and had to settle for a 486SX (no intel math) and couldn't dream of owning a RISC server system (we're talking $50,000 when homes costed $100,000). it was a popular debate by people dreaming about owning a really cool system. but the intel 3886DX really was a cool system - people under-appreciated it

* they saved die space but filled it with multimedia crap ... that didn't end up surviving (became removed in future "versions", making old chips incompatible). btw intel has done some "hacking in silicon" - allowing foreign professors to introduce multimedia features that are removed, making huge headaches for quality product makers (arm is far worse however)

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Re: China nVidia andriod engages in drug bots and heavy false advertising of ARM PROCESSORS
Posted by: erftghfh ()
Date: September 19, 2020 08:33PM

confused about roku, hulu, woolu, netflix, apple TV, google TV ?

Google china suggest to do TV you need, guess what, an nVidia shield.

who would have guessed you needed another short lived chinese product to do TV their way ? and that's really what this is all about. they are in control.

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