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“The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution and pu
Posted by: ruh roh ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:22PM

“The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.” This is the same investigation which Trump unsuccessfully attempted to thwart by invocation of absolute immunity.

District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr., in a filing to justify the broad scope of the subpoena, let on that the scope of the investigation is correspondingly broad. This is not merely about hush-money payments to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and to Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model, to keep them quiet about alleged affairs with Trump; the matter could potentially cover years of financial dealings. The Times explains that prosecutors “cited newspaper investigations that concluded the president may have illegally inflated his net worth and the value of his properties to lenders and insurers. . . [and] an article on the congressional testimony of his former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, who told lawmakers last year that the president had committed insurance fraud.” Trump denies all wrongdoing (and has assiduously hidden his taxes from view), but a grand jury continues to investigate.

The filing should send panic rushing through the Trump empire.

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: dooe ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:25PM

u got him now

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: ur a real legal beagle homer ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:34PM

This certainly can be "shielded" from prosecution by presidential immunity. All Trump's lawyers have to do is kick this to a federal court, which is his right to try and do. If the federal court takes it up, any ruling supersedes any state ruling. A lowly federal district judge can overrule an unanimous state supreme court ruling and only a federal appeals court of SCOTUS can overturn it. There's nothing a state court can do about it. Sucks to know that don't it?

And the best part is, anything Vance does can be fought in the NY courts, which will take a couple of years to make it up to the SCONY. Then, after there's that ruling, Trump's lawyers can start the federal court route.

In their recent ruling, SCOTUS didn't provide Trump with unlimited immunity, but said in both the federal case (congressional dems v Treasury Sec) and the state case (NY v Trump Org) that they need to go back and start over with the new clarification.

Years! lol

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: EJTXE ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:42PM

ur a real legal beagle homer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This certainly can be "shielded" from prosecution
> by presidential immunity. All Trump's lawyers
> have to do is kick this to a federal court, which
> is his right to try and do. If the federal court
> takes it up, any ruling supersedes any state
> ruling. A lowly federal district judge can
> overrule an unanimous state supreme court ruling
> and only a federal appeals court of SCOTUS can
> overturn it. There's nothing a state court can do
> about it. Sucks to know that don't it?
>
> And the best part is, anything Vance does can be
> fought in the NY courts, which will take a couple
> of years to make it up to the SCONY. Then, after
> there's that ruling, Trump's lawyers can start the
> federal court route.
>
> In their recent ruling, SCOTUS didn't provide
> Trump with unlimited immunity, but said in both
> the federal case (congressional dems v Treasury
> Sec) and the state case (NY v Trump Org) that they
> need to go back and start over with the new
> clarification.
>
> Years! lol


You're gloating that the crook in the Whitehouse can get away with it. And you think you're for law and order. Just the kind of law and order that arrests black people, I guess.

And you're wrong about "presidential immunity". The only presidential immunity is the Justice Department's policy that says that they won't indict a sitting president. And you can't "kick" a state prosecution to a federal court. Not possible. You're wrong. Doesn't work that way. Wrong.

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: The Russians did it ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:42PM

He colluded with the Russians. Now we have the proof.

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: Trumps done ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:44PM

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: Perry Mason would be jealous ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:45PM

EJTXE Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ur a real legal beagle homer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This certainly can be "shielded" from
> prosecution
> > by presidential immunity. All Trump's lawyers
> > have to do is kick this to a federal court,
> which
> > is his right to try and do. If the federal
> court
> > takes it up, any ruling supersedes any state
> > ruling. A lowly federal district judge can
> > overrule an unanimous state supreme court
> ruling
> > and only a federal appeals court of SCOTUS can
> > overturn it. There's nothing a state court can
> do
> > about it. Sucks to know that don't it?
> >
> > And the best part is, anything Vance does can
> be
> > fought in the NY courts, which will take a
> couple
> > of years to make it up to the SCONY. Then,
> after
> > there's that ruling, Trump's lawyers can start
> the
> > federal court route.
> >
> > In their recent ruling, SCOTUS didn't provide
> > Trump with unlimited immunity, but said in both
> > the federal case (congressional dems v Treasury
> > Sec) and the state case (NY v Trump Org) that
> they
> > need to go back and start over with the new
> > clarification.
> >
> > Years! lol
>
>
> You're gloating that the crook in the Whitehouse
> can get away with it. And you think you're for
> law and order. Just the kind of law and order
> that arrests black people, I guess.
>
> And you're wrong about "presidential immunity".
> The only presidential immunity is the Justice
> Department's policy that says that they won't
> indict a sitting president. And you can't "kick"
> a state prosecution to a federal court. Not
> possible. You're wrong. Doesn't work that way.
> Wrong.


All Trump's lawyers have to argue is that this is a nuance lawsuit based on Trump's position as president. Bam! Into Federal Courts it goes. You're wrong. That's the way it works. Wrong.

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: TYL7U ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:54PM

Perry Mason would be jealous Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> EJTXE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ur a real legal beagle homer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This certainly can be "shielded" from
> > prosecution
> > > by presidential immunity. All Trump's
> lawyers
> > > have to do is kick this to a federal court,
> > which
> > > is his right to try and do. If the federal
> > court
> > > takes it up, any ruling supersedes any state
> > > ruling. A lowly federal district judge can
> > > overrule an unanimous state supreme court
> > ruling
> > > and only a federal appeals court of SCOTUS
> can
> > > overturn it. There's nothing a state court
> can
> > do
> > > about it. Sucks to know that don't it?
> > >
> > > And the best part is, anything Vance does can
> > be
> > > fought in the NY courts, which will take a
> > couple
> > > of years to make it up to the SCONY. Then,
> > after
> > > there's that ruling, Trump's lawyers can
> start
> > the
> > > federal court route.
> > >
> > > In their recent ruling, SCOTUS didn't provide
> > > Trump with unlimited immunity, but said in
> both
> > > the federal case (congressional dems v
> Treasury
> > > Sec) and the state case (NY v Trump Org) that
> > they
> > > need to go back and start over with the new
> > > clarification.
> > >
> > > Years! lol
> >
> >
> > You're gloating that the crook in the
> Whitehouse
> > can get away with it. And you think you're for
> > law and order. Just the kind of law and order
> > that arrests black people, I guess.
> >
> > And you're wrong about "presidential immunity".
>
> > The only presidential immunity is the Justice
> > Department's policy that says that they won't
> > indict a sitting president. And you can't
> "kick"
> > a state prosecution to a federal court. Not
> > possible. You're wrong. Doesn't work that way.
>
> > Wrong.
>
>
> All Trump's lawyers have to argue is that this is
> a nuance lawsuit based on Trump's position as
> president. Bam! Into Federal Courts it goes.
> You're wrong. That's the way it works. Wrong.

A criminal prosecution is not a civil lawsuit, dumbfuck. And even if it was, you don't get to remove a state lawsuit, which this is not anyway, to federal court because it's a "nuance" suit (you meant nuisance). You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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Re: “The serious state crimes by Donald Trump and his enterprises that Cyrus Vance has indicated he is pursuing as Manhattan DA cannot be shielded from prosecution by any invocation of presidential immunity, nor are they beyond the reach of prosecution an
Posted by: Wumao ()
Date: August 04, 2020 01:57PM

Mueller is getting ready to drop the REAL Mueller Report! Trump-tard's get ready for a big dick up you're ass!!!

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