How can a person simultaneously be a "leftist" and an "anarchist"? By definition, they would seem to be mutually exclusive concepts. But that is what Trump and his supporters are calling the protesters.

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Leftists are democrats. The anarchists are the brownshirts of the democrat party.

75-85% of people attending college over the last 20 years are leftists.

Antifa replaced the Klan as the enforcement arm of the Democrat Party. Where once the Klan terrorized negroes into silence, today's version attempts to terrorize normal whites whose only 'crime' is incorrect thinking into silence.

My question seems to be misunderstood, I will try again.

Leftists, I have been led to believe, are all about big government. Any problem, they think government can fix it. Anarchists, on the other hand, want to do away with government, and really society as a whole. One could make a reasonable argument that neither is an ideal philosophy for governance. But the two do no seem to fit real well together.

Trump, and his people, use the word leftist with the word anarchist all the time. What do they mean by this? Is this just another Trump schoolyard insult? Or is he actually trying to define something? If so, what? Only Trumpers speak Trump fluently, so I figured this would be a good place to ask.

All help will be appreciated.

You are making a mistake commonly made by conservatives since Reagan. You are assuming that the political agendas currently favored by liberals and conservatives are what defines them.

Strong government isn't an end. It is a means to an end. At present liberals see stronger government as a useful tool while conservatives see it as a threat. There have been times in the past though where it was the conservatives who were embracing stronger government while liberals saw it as a threat.

If you study anarchist movements, their end game was not the abolition of government. They were instead looking to abolish the right of individuals to acquire and hold large blocks of private property, and to use that ownership to profit off the labors of others. Government was seen as the enemy because it provided the support that made the acquisition and holding of large blocks of private property possible. The assumption was that if government could be abolished or made an instrument of the will of the people that the large blocks of private property would also fall, so workers would gain control of the factories and farmers would gain control of the fields.

Since you asked OP Wrote:
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> You are making a mistake commonly made by
> conservatives since Reagan. You are assuming that
> the political agendas currently favored by
> liberals and conservatives are what defines them.
>
> Strong government isn't an end. It is a means to
> an end. At present liberals see stronger
> government as a useful tool while conservatives
> see it as a threat. There have been times in the
> past though where it was the conservatives who
> were embracing stronger government while liberals
> saw it as a threat.
>
> If you study anarchist movements, their end game
> was not the abolition of government. They were
> instead looking to abolish the right of
> individuals to acquire and hold large blocks of
> private property, and to use that ownership to
> profit off the labors of others. Government was
> seen as the enemy because it provided the support
> that made the acquisition and holding of large
> blocks of private property possible. The
> assumption was that if government could be
> abolished or made an instrument of the will of the
> people that the large blocks of private property
> would also fall, so workers would gain control of
> the factories and farmers would gain control of
> the fields.

Thank you for your answer. I'm not sure I completely agree with your definitions, but it is a start.

Still, the problem remains. How are the words "leftist" and "anarchist" not mutually exclusive, at least in the sense Trump and his peeps use them? Or is it just the projectile vomiting of random words? Again, your help is appreciated

Thanks

This is a start Wrote:
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> Since you asked OP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are making a mistake commonly made by
> > conservatives since Reagan. You are assuming
> that
> > the political agendas currently favored by
> > liberals and conservatives are what defines
> them.
> >
> > Strong government isn't an end. It is a means
> to
> > an end. At present liberals see stronger
> > government as a useful tool while conservatives
> > see it as a threat. There have been times in
> the
> > past though where it was the conservatives who
> > were embracing stronger government while
> liberals
> > saw it as a threat.
> >
> > If you study anarchist movements, their end
> game
> > was not the abolition of government. They were
> > instead looking to abolish the right of
> > individuals to acquire and hold large blocks of
> > private property, and to use that ownership to
> > profit off the labors of others. Government
> was
> > seen as the enemy because it provided the
> support
> > that made the acquisition and holding of large
> > blocks of private property possible. The
> > assumption was that if government could be
> > abolished or made an instrument of the will of
> the
> > people that the large blocks of private
> property
> > would also fall, so workers would gain control
> of
> > the factories and farmers would gain control of
> > the fields.
>
> Thank you for your answer. I'm not sure I
> completely agree with your definitions, but it is
> a start.
>
> Still, the problem remains. How are the words
> "leftist" and "anarchist" not mutually exclusive,
> at least in the sense Trump and his peeps use
> them? Or is it just the projectile vomiting of
> random words? Again, your help is appreciated
>
> Thanks


You appear a bit too dense to understand but I'll try again:

Democrats are leftists. Democrats want to fundamentally change the US (Barack Obama 10/30/2008). Anarchists want to tear down the current systems of the US. So dems and anarchists share the same goal. And the dems have gotten tired of the slow evolution of the US to their socialist utopia where the .01% truly rule over the rest of us. They have embraced the revolution of the anarchists. Dems (leftists in your simple world) and revolutionaries (anarchists in your simple world) are now the same in both goals and methods.

If you can't understand it now, you're too fucking stupid to ever understand it. If that is the case, kill yourself.

You're welcome.

Understand also that "leftist" is most often used by many to denote pretty much anything left of center. While Joe Biden and AOC are both "leftists", only one is a socialist.

I suspect your question is more likely trolling than any kind of serious attempt at learning anything.

Osmium Wrote:
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> This is a start Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Since you asked OP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You are making a mistake commonly made by
> > > conservatives since Reagan. You are assuming
> > that
> > > the political agendas currently favored by
> > > liberals and conservatives are what defines
> > them.
> > >
> > > Strong government isn't an end. It is a
> means
> > to
> > > an end. At present liberals see stronger
> > > government as a useful tool while
> conservatives
> > > see it as a threat. There have been times in
> > the
> > > past though where it was the conservatives
> who
> > > were embracing stronger government while
> > liberals
> > > saw it as a threat.
> > >
> > > If you study anarchist movements, their end
> > game
> > > was not the abolition of government. They
> were
> > > instead looking to abolish the right of
> > > individuals to acquire and hold large blocks
> of
> > > private property, and to use that ownership
> to
> > > profit off the labors of others. Government
> > was
> > > seen as the enemy because it provided the
> > support
> > > that made the acquisition and holding of
> large
> > > blocks of private property possible. The
> > > assumption was that if government could be
> > > abolished or made an instrument of the will
> of
> > the
> > > people that the large blocks of private
> > property
> > > would also fall, so workers would gain
> control
> > of
> > > the factories and farmers would gain control
> of
> > > the fields.
> >
> > Thank you for your answer. I'm not sure I
> > completely agree with your definitions, but it
> is
> > a start.
> >
> > Still, the problem remains. How are the words
> > "leftist" and "anarchist" not mutually
> exclusive,
> > at least in the sense Trump and his peeps use
> > them? Or is it just the projectile vomiting of
> > random words? Again, your help is appreciated
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
> You appear a bit too dense to understand but I'll
> try again:
>
> Democrats are leftists. Democrats want to
> fundamentally change the US (Barack Obama
> 10/30/2008). Anarchists want to tear down the
> current systems of the US. So dems and anarchists
> share the same goal. And the dems have gotten
> tired of the slow evolution of the US to their
> socialist utopia where the .01% truly rule over
> the rest of us. They have embraced the revolution
> of the anarchists. Dems (leftists in your simple
> world) and revolutionaries (anarchists in your
> simple world) are now the same in both goals and
> methods.
>
> If you can't understand it now, you're too fucking
> stupid to ever understand it. If that is the
> case, kill yourself.
>
> You're welcome.

Kind of superficial, but I understand what you are saying. You are claiming they are allies, fellow travelers. And you may be right, but I still have a hard time with the idea that a person could be simultaneously a leftist and an anarchist at the same time, which is how Trump(ers) are using the term. And as I understand that the precise use of language is not one of Trump's talents, I can't expect much more out of his supporters.

By the way, "kill myself"? You seem quire triggered. I recommend you take a deep breath and try to let some of your anger go. No need to stroke out, at least until we get to November.

Thanks