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Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 04:55PM

The ENRON albatross hung around Bush's neck after it was exposed and was never let up on. It was supposed to reflect the apparent favoritism and greed that Bush worked with his cronies in the Oil industry to the detriment of people in America. Well, it seems Obama has Goldman Sachs - and he seems to be even more in the pay of these folks then Bush ever was with the energy industries. Funny that now they are pointing out how bad GS was - so where is the outrage over how they helped rape our economy, and evidently Obama was deeply into their pockets?

Is Goldman Obama's Enron? No, it's worse
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Is-Goldman-Obamas-Enron-No-its-worse-91613449.html
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Campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs employees to President Obama are nearly seven times as much as President Bush received from Enron workers, according to numbers on OpenSecrets.org.

President Bush's connections to Enron were well-hyped during the company's accounting debacle that rippled through the economy. Time magazine even had an article called, "Bush's Enron Problem." The Associated Press ran with the headline, "Bush-backing Enron makes big money off crisis." David Callaway wrote that Enron for Bush was worse than Whitewater for Clinton.
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If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:06PM

Matt Taibi (sp?) wrote a really interesting article about 6-8 months ago in Rolling Stone about Obama and Goldman.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:06PM

Look! A link to an opinion piece!

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Date: April 20, 2010 05:07PM

You are right. Just like Obama had Goldman Sachs heavy Hank Paulson for his Secretary of the Treasury.

Oh...yeah...that's right. He was BUSH's Secretary of the Treasury.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:15PM

Taking a look at past donation patterns, it is pretty obvious who GS depended on for their crucial votes. In particular after the year 2000, the Democrats received a lot of contributions.

http://images.opensecrets.org/obama_top_contribs.htm?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
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Goldman Sachs, one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks, was also among the many banks in 2008 and 2009 to receive billions of dollars in taxpayer money to help it stay afloat. Like others in the securities industry, Goldman Sachs advises and invests in nearly every industry affected by federal legislation. The firm closely monitors issues including economic policy, trade and nearly all legislation that governs the financial sector. It has been a major proponent of privatizing Social Security as well as legislation that would essentially deregulate the investment banking/securities industry. The firm tends to give most of its money to Democrats. A number of high-ranking government officials in recent years have spent part of their careers at Goldman Sachs.

I guess the Social Security changes (the ones Bush pushed were similar to ones proposed under Bill Clinton) weren't as important. I also find it interesting how much money the University of California was able to donate to Obama. Are they a public school? Those people must make some bucks.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:18PM

Even better...

Former WH Counsel Greg Craig Signs on With Goldman Sachs
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/04/former-wh-counsel-greg-craig-signs-on-with-goldman-sachs-may-avoid-ethics-tangle.html
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Goldman Sachs has reached into the ranks of the Obama White House alumni for some political protection. Former White House counsel Greg Craig has been hired to advise the Wall Street giant after it was charged by the government last Friday with fraud and misleading its own investors. Politico first broke the story Monday night.

Officials at the White House say Craig did not alert them about his decision to take on Goldman Sachs as a client at the law firm Skadden Arps, where Craig now works.

Federal ethics rules prohibit lobbying, but Craig may have avoided complications. An administration official explains, "a former White House employee cannot appear before any unit of the Executive Office of the President on behalf of any client for 2 years -- one year under federal law and another year under the pledge pursuant to the January 2009 ethics executive order” signed by President Obama. But the Securities and Exchange Commission, which filed the civil lawsuit against Goldman Sachs, is an independent agency and West Wing advisors believe Craig’s work would not run afoul of the rules IF Craig does not contact the White House.
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LOL - here's a train wreck getting ready to happen...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:30PM

Paulson was a friend of a friend. While he will definitely be tied to Bush in some way, Goldman Sach's record of supporting Democrats will dilute that issue. Also, Geithner is the one who had the final say in how that TARP money was spent...

The Guys From ‘Government Sachs’
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/business/19gold.html
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Another Goldman veteran, Edward C. Forst, served briefly as an adviser to Mr. Paulson on setting up the bailout fund but has since left to return to his post as executive vice president of Harvard.
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The ties are pervasive at all levels of the Treasury, and a lot of political folks from both parties. But as you like to point out, Obama is at the wheel right now, and he received the lion's share of money from GS.

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Mr. Geithner, 47, played a pivotal role in the decision to let Lehman die and to bail out A.I.G. A 20-year public servant, he has never worked in the financial sector. Some analysts say that has left him reliant on Wall Street chiefs to guide his thinking and that Goldman alumni have figured prominently in his ascent.

After working at the New York consulting firm Kissinger Associates, Mr. Geithner landed at the Treasury Department in 1988, eventually catching the eye of Robert E. Rubin, Goldman’s former co-chairman. Mr. Rubin, who became Treasury secretary in 1995, kept Mr. Geithner at his side through several international meltdowns, including the Russian credit crisis in the late 1990s.

Mr. Rubin, now senior counselor at Citigroup, declined to comment. (another large Obama contributor)
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Geithner Said to Have Prevailed on the Bailout
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/business/economy/10bailout.html
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WASHINGTON— The Obama administration’s new plan to bail out the nation’s banks was fashioned after a spirited internal debate that pitted the Treasury secretary, Timothy F. Geithner, against some of the president’s top political hands.

In the end, Mr. Geithner largely prevailed in opposing tougher conditions on financial institutions that were sought by presidential aides, including David Axelrod, a senior adviser to the president, according to administration and Congressional officials.

Mr. Geithner, who will announce the broad outlines of the plan on Tuesday, successfully fought against more severe limits on executive pay for companies receiving government aid.

He resisted those who wanted to dictate how banks would spend their rescue money. And he prevailed over top administration aides who wanted to replace bank executives and wipe out shareholders at institutions receiving aid.

Because of the internal debate, some of the most contentious issues remain unresolved.
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Seems like a lot of Geithner's decisions came from input he received from his friends...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 20, 2010 05:34PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Taking a look at past donation patterns, it is
> pretty obvious who GS depended on for their
> crucial votes. In particular after the year 2000,
> the Democrats received a lot of contributions.
>
> http://images.opensecrets.org/obama_top_contribs.h
> tm?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
>
> Goldman Sachs, one of Wall Street’s most
> prestigious investment banks, was also among the
> many banks in 2008 and 2009 to receive billions of
> dollars in taxpayer money to help it stay afloat.
> Like others in the securities industry, Goldman
> Sachs advises and invests in nearly every industry
> affected by federal legislation. The firm closely
> monitors issues including economic policy, trade
> and nearly all legislation that governs the
> financial sector. It has been a major proponent of
> privatizing Social Security as well as legislation
> that would essentially deregulate the investment
> banking/securities industry. The firm tends to
> give most of its money to Democrats. A number of
> high-ranking government officials in recent years
> have spent part of their careers at Goldman
> Sachs.
>
>
> I guess the Social Security changes (the ones Bush
> pushed were similar to ones proposed under Bill
> Clinton) weren't as important. I also find it
> interesting how much money the University of
> California was able to donate to Obama. Are they a
> public school? Those people must make some bucks.


Fuck you liar! I dont care what money Obama took...the SEC is chasing their ass...and it is the Republicans who are going to force a watering down of the new regulations being proposed.

So shove your lies some where else.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 08:28PM

Nothing like anger at facts to show how this one is going. But hey, at least there is some outrage :)

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:21PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Fuck you liar!

Little off topic, but perhaps you should take up Yoga, or try some anger management courses.

It must suck to be mad and spend life cursing people out on message boards.

Have a nice day.


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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: For Shame ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:34PM

RV, there you go again. Letting facts get in the way. Are you tring to give Vince and WTL a Heart Attack?

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:44PM

For Shame Wrote:
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> RV, there you go again. Letting facts get in the
> way. Are you tring to give Vince and WTL a Heart
> Attack?
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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: For Shame ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:51PM

eesh Wrote:
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> For Shame Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RV, there you go again. Letting facts get in
> the
> > way. Are you tring to give Vince and WTL a
> Heart
> > Attack?

Just happen to see it that way. This board is all about FREE OPINION. Why repeat the facts?

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:53PM

For Shame Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> -----
> > For Shame Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > -----
> > > RV, there you go again. Letting facts get in
> > the
> > > way. Are you tring to give Vince and WTL a
> > Heart
> > > Attack?
>
> Just happen to see it that way. This board is all
> about FREE OPINION. Why repeat the facts?


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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:55PM

Outrage! Politicians taking donations...imagine that! What angers me is how a human piece of shit (RV) gets to use FFXU as his personal republican propaganda machine...and how so many people believe the lies! Democracy does not work when one political party is peddling nothing but lies. Next thing you know people will be carrying guns openly...will fear one-world government..call progress anti-constitutional.

For all you socialist haters...you live and your life depends on the federal government...you live in a socialist society...your survival depends on the federal governemnt...you live in the DC metropolitan area.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 09:57PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Outrage! Politicians taking donations...imagine
> that! What angers me is how a human piece of shit
> (RV) gets to use FFXU as his personal republican
> propaganda machine...and how so many people
> believe the lies! Democracy does not work when
> one political party is peddling nothing but lies.
> Next thing you know people will be carrying guns
> openly...will fear one-world government..call
> progress anti-constitutional.
>
> For all you socialist haters...you live and your
> life depends on the federal government...you live
> in a socialist society...your survival depends on
> the federal governemnt...you live in the DC
> metropolitan area.

Welcome to the Vince delusion.

Facts are meaningless unless they are made up by Vince.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: For Shame ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:00PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Outrage! Politicians taking donations...imagine
> that! What angers me is how a human piece of shit
> (RV) gets to use FFXU as his personal republican
> propaganda machine...and how so many people
> believe the lies! Democracy does not work when
> one political party is peddling nothing but lies.
> Next thing you know people will be carrying guns
> openly...will fear one-world government..call
> progress anti-constitutional.
>
> For all you socialist haters...you live and your
> life depends on the federal government...you live
> in a socialist society...your survival depends on
> the federal governemnt...you live in the DC
> metropolitan area.

Seroquel 200 mg might help

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: For Shame ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:03PM

EESH forgive me. I'll agree eesh style. +1 Now does that feel better.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:06PM

For Shame Wrote:
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> EESH forgive me. I'll agree eesh style. +1 Now
> does that feel better.


+1

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:09PM

For Shame Wrote:
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> EESH forgive me. I'll agree eesh style. +1 Now
> does that feel better.

Watch it, pretty soon you'll be calling yourself gay :)

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:11PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> For Shame Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EESH forgive me. I'll agree eesh style. +1
> Now
> > does that feel better.
>
> Watch it, pretty soon you'll be calling yourself
> gay :)



ghey

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:16PM

eesh Wrote:
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> > Watch it, pretty soon you'll be calling
> yourself
> > gay :)
>
>
>
> ghey

That was not directed at you eesh - it was just a point about anonymous posters who suddenly start talking about how they are gay and like the cock of various political flavors.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:17PM

Whatever happened to the Scat Brown character?

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:18PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Whatever happened to the Scat Brown character?


I ignored them?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: For Shame ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:19PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> For Shame Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EESH forgive me. I'll agree eesh style. +1
> Now
> > does that feel better.
>
> Watch it, pretty soon you'll be calling yourself
> gay :)

Believe me coming out to a large union, democrat, catholic, family as rebublican was a lot worse than coming out as a gay. My parents would have been so much more accepting of the gay. lol

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Sachs ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:41PM

Goldman Sach's is expected to fight the charges and may have a case to win because technically they didn't violate laws.

ENRON on the hand was total BS trading and dumped thousands of people's retirement saving down the drain.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 20, 2010 10:44PM

Sachs Wrote:
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> Goldman Sach's is expected to fight the charges
> and may have a case to win because technically
> they didn't violate laws.
>
> ENRON on the hand was total BS trading and dumped
> thousands of people's retirement saving down the
> drain.

Simplistic BS. And if you think GS and others didn't affect people's retirements and savings accounts then you are already showing how deluded you are.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: April 21, 2010 09:31AM

people are too busy being pissed off at banks for screwing everything up.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Date: April 21, 2010 09:38AM

Well, RV, when Goldman Sachs executives are convicted and sentenced to prison for 25 years, the way things worked out for Lay, I'm sure the press will jump all over Obama...and Bush...for their connections to Goldman Sachs. But, as we have seen, that probably won't happen.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: April 21, 2010 12:55PM

LOL Leave it to Vince(R) to spin up the GS issues into anti-Obama rhetoric---Lord knows we should just bow before them and let them trade in whatever whacked-out crap they feel like. The economic infrastructure be damned, eh, Reggie-tard?

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Christie ()
Date: April 21, 2010 02:00PM

ENRON used crooked accounting books to lure investors out of their retirement money with false earning reports.

Goldman gave money to people who couldn't repay it and then bet the stock market that the fund wouldn't be repaid. EXACT OPPOSITE OF ENRON.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 21, 2010 02:52PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Sachs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Goldman Sach's is expected to fight the charges
> > and may have a case to win because technically
> > they didn't violate laws.
> >
> > ENRON on the hand was total BS trading and
> dumped
> > thousands of people's retirement saving down
> the
> > drain.
>
> Simplistic BS. And if you think GS and others
> didn't affect people's retirements and savings
> accounts then you are already showing how deluded
> you are.




Well, this is going to happen more often if retirement is fully privatized. This shit didn't happen when people got pensions. :-(



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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 21, 2010 03:18PM

Christie Wrote:
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> ENRON used crooked accounting books to lure
> investors out of their retirement money with false
> earning reports.
>
> Goldman gave money to people who couldn't repay it
> and then bet the stock market that the fund
> wouldn't be repaid. EXACT OPPOSITE OF ENRON.

Goldman then sold those positions to other investors and such who bet FOR them. Those investors lost billions of dollars on GS's pedaling of essentially fraudulent securities. What I find funny is how you all are defending GS, when they probably bilked more billions of dollars out of the economy then ENRON ever did.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 21, 2010 03:20PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Sachs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Goldman Sach's is expected to fight the charges
> > and may have a case to win because technically
> > they didn't violate laws.
> >
> > ENRON on the hand was total BS trading and
> dumped
> > thousands of people's retirement saving down
> the
> > drain.
>
> Simplistic BS. And if you think GS and others
> didn't affect people's retirements and savings
> accounts then you are already showing how deluded
> you are.


ddddd...ddddd....ddddd....delusional....dddd....ddddd....ddddd....deluded....ddddd....ddddd.....dddddd....douche bag!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 21, 2010 03:48PM

ENRON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal
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Enron's stock price, which hit a high of US$90 per share in mid-2000, caused shareholders to lose nearly $11 billion when it plummeted to less than $1 by the end of November 2001. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) began an investigation, and Dynegy offered to purchase the company at a fire sale price. When the deal fell through, Enron filed for bankruptcy on December 2, 2001 under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, and with assets of $63.4 billion, it was the largest corporate bankruptcy in U.S. history until WorldCom's 2002 bankruptcy
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Goldman Sachs
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/04/sec_accuses_goldman_sachs_of_f.html
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Investors in the CDO lost over $1 billion. Paulson bet against the CDO and made a profit of $1 billion, the SEC says.
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Involvement with the bailout of AIG

American International Group was bailed out by the US government in September 2008 after suffering a liquidity crisis, whereby the Federal Reserve initially lent $85 billion USD to AIG to allow the firm to meet its collateral and cash obligations.

In March 2009, it was reported that, in 2008, Goldman Sachs, alongside other major US and international financial institutions, had received billions of dollars during the unwind of credit default swap (CDS) contracts purchased from AIG, including $12.9bn from funds provided by the US Federal Reserve to bail out AIG.[80][81][82] (As of April, 2009, US Government loans to AIG totaled over $180 billion.) The money was used to repay customers of its securiy-lending program and was paid as collateral to counterparties under credit insurance contracts purchased from AIG. However, due to the size and nature of the payouts there was considerable controversy in the media and amongst some politicians as to whether banks, including Goldman Sachs, may have benefited materially from the bailout and if they had been overpaid.[83],[84] The New York State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced in March 2009 that he was investigating whether AIG's trading counterparties improperly received government money.[85]
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So while their direct involvement led to a $1B loss for investors in a product they bet AGAINST while offering it up to them, they also were indirectly involved in the other $12.9B from AIG losses on the credit swaps. If AIG had not been bailed out (to the tune of $180B) it is likely the loss would have been even more significant. So we paid, and are still paying for, much of the losses they were involved in. They were just lucky in that many of the folks (in positions of power) working for the Federal Reserve and the Treasury are former GS employees.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Date: April 21, 2010 03:56PM

This would explain why everyone is getting pennies on the dollar except for the holders of credit default swaps, who are getting a 100% return for an instrument that isn't technically insurance. Sounds like some fuckers need to go to jail....and I don't care which Administration they work(ed) for.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: my kingdom ()
Date: April 21, 2010 11:45PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> LOL Leave it to Vince(R) to spin up the GS issues
> into anti-Obama rhetoric---Lord knows we should
> just bow before them and let them trade in
> whatever whacked-out crap they feel like. The
> economic infrastructure be damned, eh,
> Reggie-tard?


WOW, you have claimed the crown as king of fairies....congrats.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: shit is funny ()
Date: April 21, 2010 11:49PM

my kingdom Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL Leave it to Vince(R) to spin up the GS
> issues
> > into anti-Obama rhetoric---Lord knows we should
> > just bow before them and let them trade in
> > whatever whacked-out crap they feel like. The
> > economic infrastructure be damned, eh,
> > Reggie-tard?
>
>
> WOW, you have claimed the crown as king of
> fairies....congrats.
>
> .
>


LOL!

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: haha ()
Date: April 21, 2010 11:50PM

my kingdom Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL Leave it to Vince(R) to spin up the GS
> issues
> > into anti-Obama rhetoric---Lord knows we should
> > just bow before them and let them trade in
> > whatever whacked-out crap they feel like. The
> > economic infrastructure be damned, eh,
> > Reggie-tard?
>
>
> WOW, you have claimed the crown as king of
> fairies....congrats.
>
> .
>
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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:14AM

Ah yes...Ink-tard trolling the boards like a maniac again, I see.....

Now carry on.

______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: my kingdom ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:18AM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ah yes...Ink-tard trolling the boards like a
> maniac again, I see.....
>
> Now carry on.

Oh, so sorry, king of fairies, not inktard. Not even close. So, yes, carry on indeed. May all subjects of the fairy kingdom bow in the presence of your exceptional fairiness.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: ------- ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:21AM

Fairy,

A little ironic that you would be complaining about someone trolling when all you do is pound the threads, drive the regulars off the site and eschew all n00bs and visitors from this site.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: King Fairy's Loyal Subject ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:24AM

------- Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fairy,
>
> A little ironic that you would be complaining
> about someone trolling when all you do is pound
> the threads, drive the regulars off the site and
> eschew all n00bs and visitors from this site.

SHUT UP, INKAHOOTZ!!!!! LEAVE KING FAIRY ALONE RIGHT NOOOOOOW!!!!!

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: imposter jeans ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:25AM

my kingdom Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ah yes...Ink-tard trolling the boards like a
> > maniac again, I see.....
> >
> > Now carry on.
>
> Oh, so sorry, king of fairies, not inktard. Not
> even close. So, yes, carry on indeed. May all
> subjects of the fairy kingdom bow in the presence
> of your exceptional fairiness.


fake anonymous wannabe pretending to be inkahootz

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:36AM

------- Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fairy,
>
> A little ironic that you would be complaining
> about someone trolling when all you do is pound
> the threads, drive the regulars off the site and
> eschew all n00bs and visitors from this site.


Using "eschew" (grammatical fail) and "n00bs" only brings one retard to mind. And who's complaining?

Now carry on with your badass trolling self, retard.

______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Loyal Subject ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:41AM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ------- Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fairy,
> >
> > A little ironic that you would be complaining
> > about someone trolling when all you do is pound
> > the threads, drive the regulars off the site
> and
> > eschew all n00bs and visitors from this site.
>
>
> Using "eschew" (grammatical fail) and "n00bs" only
> brings one retard to mind. And who's complaining?
>
>
> Now carry on with your badass trolling self,
> retard.

So sayeth King of All Fairies! So it shall be written, so it shall be done! All Hail King of All Fairies.

Now fairy on with yourself!

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: troll patrol ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:49AM

Loyal Subject Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ------- Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Fairy,
> > >
> > > A little ironic that you would be complaining
> > > about someone trolling when all you do is
> pound
> > > the threads, drive the regulars off the site
> > and
> > > eschew all n00bs and visitors from this site.
> >
> >
> > Using "eschew" (grammatical fail) and "n00bs"
> only
> > brings one retard to mind. And who's
> complaining?
> >
> >
> > Now carry on with your badass trolling self,
> > retard.
>
> So sayeth King of All Fairies! So it shall be
> written, so it shall be done! All Hail King of
> All Fairies.
>
> Now fairy on with yourself!




Registered Voter pretending to be inkahootz

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:50AM

troll patrol Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Loyal Subject Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fairfaxdude Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ------- Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Fairy,
> > > >
> > > > A little ironic that you would be
> complaining
> > > > about someone trolling when all you do is
> > pound
> > > > the threads, drive the regulars off the
> site
> > > and
> > > > eschew all n00bs and visitors from this
> site.
> > >
> > >
> > > Using "eschew" (grammatical fail) and "n00bs"
> > only
> > > brings one retard to mind. And who's
> > complaining?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now carry on with your badass trolling self,
> > > retard.
> >
> > So sayeth King of All Fairies! So it shall be
> > written, so it shall be done! All Hail King of
> > All Fairies.
> >
> > Now fairy on with yourself!
>
>
>
>
> Registered Voter pretending to be inkahootz

Vincetard pretending to be an anonymous troll

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Obama + Goldman Sachs > Bush + ENRON - Where's the Outrage?
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 22, 2010 02:55PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> troll patrol Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Loyal Subject Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > fairfaxdude Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > ------- Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Fairy,
> > > > >
> > > > > A little ironic that you would be
> > complaining
> > > > > about someone trolling when all you do is
> > > pound
> > > > > the threads, drive the regulars off the
> > site
> > > > and
> > > > > eschew all n00bs and visitors from this
> > site.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Using "eschew" (grammatical fail) and
> "n00bs"
> > > only
> > > > brings one retard to mind. And who's
> > > complaining?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now carry on with your badass trolling
> self,
> > > > retard.
> > >
> > > So sayeth King of All Fairies! So it shall
> be
> > > written, so it shall be done! All Hail King
> of
> > > All Fairies.
> > >
> > > Now fairy on with yourself!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Registered Voter pretending to be inkahootz
>
> Vincetard pretending to be an anonymous troll


Your mother pretending you didnt pop out of her cunt.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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