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"Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 14, 2010 02:08PM

So this moron apparently sought in vain verification that Obama was born in the U.S. Did he go through that same effort with Bush? Or Clinton?



Tough shit.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 14, 2010 02:29PM

As if Obama showing his birth certificate would stop this insanity. They would find some other problem/issue..and on and on it would go...the Army is better off without him.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 14, 2010 02:31PM

Hope he ends up in Leavenworth.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 14, 2010 03:08PM

This birther stuff was kind of entertaining a couple years ago.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: April 14, 2010 08:41PM

He might damn well have an ulterior motive here, but it doesn't change the fact that we all have the right to see the BC, and that they keep refusing us that right.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: April 14, 2010 09:01PM

I've noticed that most of of us military and retired military folks have an intense dislike for this President. It reminds me of the Clinton years, when he screwed up our national defense with DADT and the draw down.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 14, 2010 09:44PM

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> He might damn well have an ulterior motive here,
> but it doesn't change the fact that we all have
> the right to see the BC, and that they keep
> refusing us that right.


He has. Repeatedly. The Republican Governor of Hawaii has vouched for it. Several judges, many appointed by Bush, have thrown the case out due to the total lack of merit. At the same time, the birthers have produced ZERO evidence that Obama was born in Africa. ZERO.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 14, 2010 09:45PM

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> I've noticed that most of of us military and
> retired military folks have an intense dislike for
> this President. It reminds me of the Clinton
> years, when he screwed up our national defense
> with DADT and the draw down.


That damn Clinton and those victories he had in Bosnia and Kosovo. He should have been more like Bush and fucked up Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: April 15, 2010 05:41AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> That damn Clinton and those victories he had in
> Bosnia and Kosovo.

Clinton was interesting to watch. Every time the news was bad about him (like the Lewinsky scandal), he'd start an air campaign to create alternate news.

"I did not have sex with that woman, and oops, there goes Iraq operating in the No Fly Zone again." BOOOOOM!

8-)

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 06:31AM

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > That damn Clinton and those victories he had in
> > Bosnia and Kosovo.
>
> Clinton was interesting to watch. Every time the
> news was bad about him (like the Lewinsky
> scandal), he'd start an air campaign to create
> alternate news.
>
> "I did not have sex with that woman, and oops,
> there goes Iraq operating in the No Fly Zone
> again." BOOOOOM!
>
> 8-)


Yeah, what an asshole. He bombed a Sudanese factory linked to Osama Bin Laden. Republicans at the time claimed he was "wagging the dog" because, in their wisdom, the Republicans didn't think Bin Laden was that much of a threat. Oh, and it was one of these "wag the dog" moments in Iraq that destroyed the few WMD stockpiles Saddam had left.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 09:09AM

The FACT OF THE MATTER IS:

NOBODY CARES EXACTLY WHERE OUR benchwarmer-President was born, OUTSIDE of this country, we just care about the fact he was NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES. Unfortunately his Mama had a baby with a foriegn national and had it while living in another country. Sorry that all you dip-shit liberals can't understand how the lack of an UNALTERED/ FORGED birth certificate IS PROOF HE IS NO CITIZEN, and therefore my assertion that the president is just a figurehead/ media fuck-toy was ALLWAYS CORRECT.

Lastly, if indeed his mother was living in this country then there would be alternate proof and other documentation(ie. Tax returns)that his mother was living here, but being that she was NOT LIVING HERE, Hussien Obama supporters can NOT provide anything that supports thier claim. (and that should be very evident to even the dumbest of you Socialist Liberals.)

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 09:22AM

Obama is an ALIEN! He's a fuckin' ALIEN, ya'll! Ain't no got-damn socialist ALIEN from some other damn planet gun tell me what to do!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 09:22AM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> The FACT OF THE MATTER IS:
>
> NOBODY CARES EXACTLY WHERE OUR
> benchwarmer-President was born, OUTSIDE of this
> country, we just care about the fact he was NOT
> BORN IN THE UNITED STATES.

Unless you can produce evidence of this, you have no argument. The birthers have produced NOTHING.

> Unfortunately his Mama
> had a baby with a foriegn national and had it
> while living in another country.

You have no proof of that. And regardless, read the law. Even if Obama was born in a foreign country, he was born to an American citizen and would be considered a natural-born citizen by Constitutional standards. The provision in the constitution refers to foreign-born nationals...not American citizens born overseas.

> Sorry that all
> you dip-shit liberals can't understand how the
> lack of an UNALTERED/ FORGED birth certificate IS
> PROOF HE IS NO CITIZEN, and therefore my assertion
> that the president is just a figurehead/ media
> fuck-toy was ALLWAYS CORRECT.
>

Sorry you don't understand how burden of proof works. The ACCUSER must provide the proof of the supposed crime. Not the ACCUSED.

> Lastly, if indeed his mother was living in this
> country then there would be alternate proof and
> other documentation(ie. Tax returns)that his
> mother was living here, but being that she was NOT
> LIVING HERE, Hussien Obama supporters can NOT
> provide anything that supports thier claim. (and
> that should be very evident to even the dumbest of
> you Socialist Liberals.)

Do you have your mom's tax return from 1961?

The newspapers in Hawaii have the birth announcement around that time with the parents' address. That is evidence. Please produce ANY shred of evidence that Obama was born outside of the U.S.

You have none.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: .Jerry.Rubin ()
Date: April 15, 2010 10:09AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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...the
> Army is better off without him.

That's not an issue for Draft Dodgers to decide.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 11:35AM

Unfortunately when you are ACCUSED of a crime, the fucking DA is not going to provide the proof of your INNOCENCE for you. It is up to the ACCUSED to PROVIDE PROOF OF INNOCENCE!


YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASSWIPE WASHING-TONE LOCIAN.


Alternately, MY PROOF, is the FACT that WE ARE HAVING THIS DEBATE you IDIOT!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 15, 2010 12:03PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Unfortunately when you are ACCUSED of a crime, the
> fucking DA is not going to provide the proof of
> your INNOCENCE for you. It is up to the ACCUSED
> to PROVIDE PROOF OF INNOCENCE!
>
>
> YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASSWIPE WASHING-TONE LOCIAN.
>
>
> Alternately, MY PROOF, is the FACT that WE ARE
> HAVING THIS DEBATE you IDIOT!


Well at least you picked the right name for yourself.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 12:40PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Unfortunately when you are ACCUSED of a crime, the
> fucking DA is not going to provide the proof of
> your INNOCENCE for you. It is up to the ACCUSED
> to PROVIDE PROOF OF INNOCENCE!
>
>
> YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASSWIPE WASHING-TONE LOCIAN.
>
>
> Alternately, MY PROOF, is the FACT that WE ARE
> HAVING THIS DEBATE you IDIOT!

I'll let the Bush-appointed Republican judge who threw out the last birther suit explain it to you...

"Plaintiffs' counsel has favored rhetoric seeking to arouse the emotions and prejudices of her followers rather than the language of a lawyer seeking to present arguments through cogent legal reasoning," he writes. "While the Court has no desire to chill Plaintiffs' enthusiastic presentation, Taitz's argument often hampered the efforts of her cocounsel Gary Kreep ("Kreep"), counsel for Plaintiffs Drake and Robinson, to bring serious issues before the Court."

"[T]he Court has received several sworn affidavits that Taitz asked potential witnesses that she planned to call before this Court to perjure themselves," writes Carter. "This Court is deeply concerned that Taitz may have suborned perjury through witnesses she intended to bring before this Court."

Elsewhere in the document, Carter says that "[p]laintiffs appear to assume that should the Court receive a document from Kenya, the Court would give credence to this document over the American birth records of the President and the case would be resolved."

"Even should the Court permit the issuance of a letter rogatory to Kenya, the Court would still engage in a comparative exercise in which the records of America, which has historically maintained some of the most credible recordkeeping practices in the world, would be contrasted with the credibility of the records obtained from Kenya," he writes.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2010 01:17PM by WashingTone-Locian.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 15, 2010 12:40PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Unfortunately when you are ACCUSED of a crime, the
> fucking DA is not going to provide the proof of
> your INNOCENCE for you. It is up to the ACCUSED
> to PROVIDE PROOF OF INNOCENCE!
>
>
> YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASSWIPE WASHING-TONE LOCIAN.
>
>
> Alternately, MY PROOF, is the FACT that WE ARE
> HAVING THIS DEBATE you IDIOT!


Wow..I thought the concept of innocence/proof was always on the side of the accused in this country. So..anyone can accuse anyone of anything and if he cant prove he didnt do it..he's guilty!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 15, 2010 12:58PM

WTL, you didn't close the italics.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:13PM

Wow Vince?

Exactly Wow, you have a fragile mind! Let me be more CLEARER. As I have already stated, the evidence is Hussein Obama's LACK of EVIDENCE.

I thought at least that much was evident.

Oh and WTL, copy and paste is for LOSERS. What's the matter WTL, can't summarize that in your own intelligable words?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 01:17PM

eesh Wrote:
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> WTL, you didn't close the italics.


Fixed now. Thanks.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 01:18PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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>
> Oh and WTL, copy and paste is for LOSERS. What's
> the matter WTL, can't summarize that in your own
> intelligable words?


I've done it multiple times. You are too stupid to comprehend it. I figured using an actual REPUBLICAN judge who says this stuff is unsupported lunacy might be enough for you. Apparently, you are still too fucking stupid to understand logic.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:21PM

Vince wrote:
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So..anyone can accuse anyone of anything and if he cant prove he didnt do it..he's guilty!


A. Yes Vince it happens every day! This is just the American way, we call it the "Justice System".

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:27PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> As I have already stated, the
> evidence is Hussein Obama's LACK of EVIDENCE.

I hereby accuse you of the sexual assault and death of Jon Benet Ramsey, and the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson. Please provide proof of your innocence.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:28PM

The judge was commenting on other people and what they assumed about the courts giving precidence to A document that Kenya would provide stating Hussien Obama is a Kenyan born Muslim. So fuck you WTL your the ONLY STUPID ASSHOLE IN HERE THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND SHIT AND QUOTES REPUBLICAN JUDGES TRYING TO DISTORT THE FACTS AND MAKE IT APPEAR THAT YOU YOURSELF ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING VALID TO SAY OR THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION AT HAND.

Once again WASHINGTONE-LOCAIN, your a fucking retarded dipshit with a dumbfuck sceen name.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:29PM

You are not a DA Mephisto, so why don't you just FUCK OFF U FUCK WEASEL?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 01:30PM

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Troll@AOL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As I have already stated, the
> > evidence is Hussein Obama's LACK of EVIDENCE.
>
> I hereby accuse you of the sexual assault and
> death of Jon Benet Ramsey, and the murder of
> Nicole Brown Simpson. Please provide proof of
> your innocence.


+ 1

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 01:30PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> You are not a DA Mephisto, so why don't you just
> FUCK OFF U FUCK WEASEL?


And neither are you, fucktard. So shut your ill-informed ass up.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:32PM

Also we acted like this wanna-be black president was gonna make black people proud of America. Well the land of the blacks, where the man was born (Kenya) is claiming him a citizen, and WE ARE CALLING THEM (the real black people) LIARS!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:33PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> You are not a DA Mephisto, so why don't you just
> FUCK OFF U FUCK WEASEL?

So you're admitting to the rape and murder of Jon Benet Ramsey? I don't see any proof of your innocence, so you must be a kid rapist/murderer.

I knew it.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:34PM

+1 you fucking pinhead?

Did you have to go and fag out the thread with that +1 internet dorkery?

YOU SHUT UP FAGGOT!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:38PM

I see your accusation Mephisto and I raise you one. Now who's gonna lock the other guy up first? Well even though you are the genuine article, since you look gayer than me, I say you go first.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2010 01:39PM by Troll@AOL.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:41PM

Side note: Here is the Certificate of Live Birth:

birth_certificate_2.jpg


And the stamp on the back of it dated 2007 (which is when it was issued):

birth_certificate_9.jpg

I figured the largest pics were necessary...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:46PM

FAKE!!!!!!!! FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a;lkdjf;alkdjfhfkjahdflajkdhf;asdjf;akjf

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:46PM

So that documet was issued in 2007? So that makes Hussien Obama 'the second' what 3 YEARS OLD?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:47PM

Certified in 2007, numbnut

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:48PM

No to mention that is an INADMISABLE COPY! And NOT a BIRTH CIRTIFICATE.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:50PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> As if Obama showing his birth certificate would
> stop this insanity. They would find some other
> problem/issue..and on and on it would go.

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Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:48PM


> No to mention that is an INADMISABLE COPY! And NOT a BIRTH CIRTIFICATE.


Game. Set. Match.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:50PM

I also notice no authentic handsigned signature and a bunch of UNREADABLE SMEARED TEXT on the fucking STAMP, NUMBNUTTS.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:51PM

Checkmate.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:52PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> So that documet was issued in 2007? So that makes
> Hussien Obama 'the second' what 3 YEARS OLD?


No, it stated his date of birth in 1961. This is a pretty standard form for most State governments - the original has either been put on microfiche or filed in some deep dark vault - but the pertinent information was put into a system. They use these all the time for passport verification, security clearances, etc. Some states have made efforts to scan in old originals and tie them together to the system, but the costs to do this are so astronomical that most don't even try.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:54PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Checkmate.


Fail

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:57PM

Too bad, we need PROOF. And you are failing to provide it....MAKING HIM AN UNELIGABLE CANDIDATE. But you bozos should have cleared this up before the election, instead of telling us te originals are tucked away in some deep dark cave but the jist of it is here BS.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:58PM

You obviously missed the legal language at the bottom:

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University
Attachments:
bcevidence.jpg

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 01:59PM

Who says fail? Come on Gonads, if being straight is success, well then I geuss your pure FAIL. You FAGGOT.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 01:59PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> I also notice no authentic handsigned signature
> and a bunch of UNREADABLE SMEARED TEXT on the
> fucking STAMP, NUMBNUTTS.


The fact is Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc, all had similar birth certificates in the past and this has never been an issue until now. This is all a sad attempt by a bunch of loons to prove something contrary to the truth.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:00PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> You obviously missed the legal language at the
> bottom:


So much for blowing up the image.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:00PM

An INADMISSABLE COPY of legal language at that!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:00PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> well then I geuss your pure FAIL.


Slightly less than Epic Fail, but still Fail nonetheless...

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:03PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> An INADMISSABLE COPY of legal language at that!


PRIMA-FACIE, EVIDENCE, CASE

Latin for "at first view."

Evidence that is sufficient to raise a presumption of fact or to establish the fact in question unless rebutted.

A prima-facie case is a lawsuit that alleges facts adequate to prove the underlying conduct supporting the cause of action and thereby prevail.



UNLESS REBUTTED! And Orly Traitz screaming like a crazy cunt isn't a rebuttal!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:04PM

Guys I lost my original birth certificate and only have a copy I got a few years ago. Am I Kenyan now?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:05PM

You want the truth?

When VOTER FRAUD was uncovered on behalf of ACORN, we should have discarded all votes and held another election to ensure that there was no chance the REASONABLE DOUBT RAISED WOULD BE ELIMINATED.

Then we wouldn't be worried about our UNQUALIFIED PR PRESIDENT.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:05PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Guys I lost my original birth certificate and only
> have a copy I got a few years ago. Am I Kenyan
> now?


Yes. And I don't need to provide any documents to back that up. You are Kenyan because I say so.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:06PM

Don't worry...Palin will have the opportunity to lose again to Obama in 2012. No need to have it done twice in the same year.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:07PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> You want the truth?
>
> When VOTER FRAUD was uncovered on behalf of ACORN,
> we should have discarded all votes and held
> another election to ensure that there was no
> chance the REASONABLE DOUBT RAISED WOULD BE
> ELIMINATED.
>
> Then we wouldn't be worried about our UNQUALIFIED
> PR PRESIDENT.

The truth is you got nothing. And when did our President become Puerto Rican?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:07PM

Hey Johnny the Nation of Kenya is not claiming you as thier own are they?? Then shut the fuck up.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:08PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Hey Johnny the Nation of Kenya is not claiming you
> as thier own are they?? Then shut the fuck up.


Neither is Kenya. They refer to him as a "son of Kenya" the way Ireland might have referred to Ronald Reagan as a "son of Ireland."

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:08PM

Also I would hope the signature would AT LEAST BE AUTHENTIC of the person certifying your document, and that the stamp was not unreadable.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:09PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Hey Johnny the Nation of Kenya is not claiming you
> as thier own are they?? Then shut the fuck up.


They can if...*sniffle*...they'll have me...

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:09PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Guys I lost my original birth certificate and only
> have a copy I got a few years ago. Am I Kenyan
> now?


You are now Kenyan, Muslim, and late to chair a community organization fund raiser being held in a domestic terrorist's living room.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:10PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> and that the stamp was not unreadable.


That's the first and only accurate statement you've made in this thread. The stamp wasn't unreadable. I could read it quite clearly!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:11PM

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Johnny Walker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Guys I lost my original birth certificate and
> only
> > have a copy I got a few years ago. Am I Kenyan
> > now?
>
>
> You are now Kenyan, Muslim, and late to chair a
> community organization fund raiser being held in a
> domestic terrorist's living room.


Oh man I better write this stuff down somewhere.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:13PM

Here's one for you dipshits, why does it state his mother is a caucasian, and that his father is an African? Where is Caucasia located on a map???


I smell a FAKE!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:17PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> You want the truth?
>
> When VOTER FRAUD was uncovered on behalf of ACORN,
> we should have discarded all votes and held
> another election to ensure that there was no
> chance the REASONABLE DOUBT RAISED WOULD BE
> ELIMINATED.
>
> Then we wouldn't be worried about our UNQUALIFIED
> PR PRESIDENT.

Actually the truth of the matter is this.

There is no Criminal proceeding on this issue. In a criminal proceeding you are innocent until proven guilty, and you have to be accused of a crime. In a criminal proceeding it is "beyond a reasonable doubt" - meaning you have to have full agreement by the jurors that you committed a crime. No one has charged Obama with fraud, or presenting fraudulent documents.

Now, in the case of a Civil proceeding, you have a "preponderance of the evidence". A preponderance of the evidence falls upon the accuser to produce. The defendant is innocent until proven guilty - and guilt is determined at 51%. Still, the accuser has to produce evidence via whatever legal means they have available - to show the guilt of the defendant. The defendant can then defend themselves if they feel they need to. Just claiming that Obama is not CIC because he has not shown his BC is a specious claim since the Certification of Live Birth is sufficient evidence in a court of law to show that he was in fact, born in Hawaii. The guy would have had better luck stating he was a conscientious objector.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:18PM

Quite clearly??? What about the text to the right? I can defer from the context what some things are likethe word 'Health' but the stuff below is UNREADABLE. Now have you ever taken possesion of a car and dealt with retitling at the Motor vehicle admin. How about smudges? Or unreadable text? Now if they won't accept this shit fot a car title then why are you IDIOTS ACTING LIKE IT IS OKAY HERE IN THIS IMPORTANT SITUATION WHERE VALIDATION IS KEY?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Date: April 15, 2010 02:19PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Here's one for you dipshits, why does it state
> his mother is a caucasian, and that his father is
> an African? Where is Caucasia located on a
> map???
>
>
> I smell a FAKE!


First, Caucasian was a commonly used term for "white" up until a few years ago. Second, the father probably wrote "African" because it was a fill-in-the-blank form, not multiple-choice. Since his father was not an American, he probably didn't refer to himself as a "negro," which was the common term at the time.

In any case, the authorities in Hawaii explained this by saying that they use what was submitted by the parents. There are probably lots of people from Hawaii whose parents were "colored," "black," "oriental" and such from back then.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:19PM

Troll@AOL is successful in his trolling attempt due to the fact that most people cannot be confronted with such blatant stupidity without fighting it.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:20PM

Was that covered until the troll types? I don't think so.

Shouldn't there be one called "Willfully Stupid Troll"?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Gonads & Strife ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:21PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> The guy would have had better luck
> stating he was a conscientious objector.


Isn't the (soon-to-be former) Lt. Col. a surgeon?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:25PM

Lastly why do you think the 'CERTIFIED' signature is a stamp? A COPY ITSELF! On nothing other than a COPY of a document that at best leaves questions in the publics mind as to why there is NO BIRTH CIRTIFICATE.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 02:31PM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Lastly why do you think the 'CERTIFIED' signature
> is a stamp? A COPY ITSELF! On nothing other than
> a COPY of a document that at best leaves questions
> in the deluded nutjob's mind as to why there is NO BIRTH
> CIRTIFICATE.

Fixed.

Legal document. Nuff said. Until someone else can produce a legitimate legal document showing otherwise, his proof trumps.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 03:29PM

Allow me to resummarize that for you:

your certification of your 'Legal Document' Not Admissable and MOST LIKELY A FAKE, IT BEARS AN UNORIGINAL SIGNATURE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO CERTIFY IT AS AN ADMISSABLE COPY OF DOCUMENT YOU CAN NOT PRODUCE! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE SMEARED STAMP, ALSO MAKING THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT INVALID.

The only one who us 'deluded' is a FAGGOT who goes by the name of 'REGISTERD VOTER' who seems to think his fuckin lack of an argument is sufficient for people to stop finding problems with the Validation and Eligibilty of a man you pricks like yourself rigged the last fucking election using a corrupt organisation called Acorn to rally up special interest voting registration with dead people and bums and the like and non citizens like Hussein Obama to vote, and using your connections in the media to ensure a win on the premise that if you aren't down then your an 'uncool racist'. All just to ensure your wannabe chicago thug could get his foot in the door for a job in my backyard. Thats all.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: April 15, 2010 03:45PM

Registered Voter when did you join ACORN you damn hippie.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 15, 2010 03:48PM

He's actually not a hippie, he is a faggot. I underdstand, easily confusable.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 15, 2010 05:06PM

Johnny Walker Wrote:
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> Registered Voter when did you join ACORN you damn
> hippie.

Back when I decided to secretly vote for Obama...

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: April 21, 2010 12:16AM

Arizona seems to have gone over to the dark side... Well, I suppose the idea is sound...

Ariz House: Check Obama's Citizenship
http://www.kpho.com/news/23202195/detail.html
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PHOENIX -- The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection.

The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote.

It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.

Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation."

Mesa Republican Rep. Cecil Ash said he has no reason to doubt Obama's citizenship but supports the measure because it could help end doubt.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Whorely Titz ()
Date: April 21, 2010 10:14AM

Hey boys, just wanted to let you know that birther shit really makes me horny.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Ride THIS! ()
Date: April 21, 2010 01:34PM

Whorely Titz Wrote:
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> Hey boys, just wanted to let you know that birther
> shit really makes me horny.


Stfu Alias, and stop posting under unregistered nics

we all know what makes you horny anyways---a good old fashioned lynching!

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Alias ()
Date: April 21, 2010 02:28PM

I was not the author of that stupid Whorely Titz post!

But, I'm 99 percent sure I know who was.

And, I'm 99 percent sure I know who Ride THIS was.

It was most likely the same person who did something similar yesterday. Cute.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Doesn't Matter ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:50AM

Troll@AOL Wrote:
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> Allow me to resummarize that for you:
>
> your certification of your 'Legal Document' Not
> Admissable and MOST LIKELY A FAKE, IT BEARS AN
> UNORIGINAL SIGNATURE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO CERTIFY
> IT AS AN ADMISSABLE COPY OF DOCUMENT YOU CAN NOT
> PRODUCE! ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE SMEARED STAMP,
> ALSO MAKING THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT INVALID.
>
> The only one who us 'deluded' is a FAGGOT who goes
> by the name of 'REGISTERD VOTER' who seems to
> think his fuckin lack of an argument is sufficient
> for people to stop finding problems with the
> Validation and Eligibilty of a man you pricks like
> yourself rigged the last fucking election using a
> corrupt organisation called Acorn to rally up
> special interest voting registration with dead
> people and bums and the like and non citizens like
> Hussein Obama to vote, and using your connections
> in the media to ensure a win on the premise that
> if you aren't down then your an 'uncool racist'.
> All just to ensure your wannabe chicago thug could
> get his foot in the door for a job in my backyard.
> Thats all.

Your name says it all. Good trolling.

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: April 22, 2010 11:59AM

Thank you. I figure if everyone else is allowed to spew thier insane garbage, why can't I?

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: Ride THIS! ()
Date: April 22, 2010 12:07PM

Alias Wrote:
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> I was not the author of that stupid Whorely Titz
> post!
>
> But, I'm 99 percent sure I know who was.
>
> And, I'm 99 percent sure I know who Ride THIS
> was.
>
> It was most likely the same person who did
> something similar yesterday. Cute.


The only thing youre 99% sure of is that no man would fuck you under any circumstances

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Re: "Birther" Army Officer to be Court Martialed for Disobeying Orders
Posted by: say bahhhh ()
Date: April 22, 2010 12:21PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Dane Bramage Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > That damn Clinton and those victories he had
> in
> > > Bosnia and Kosovo.
> >
> > Clinton was interesting to watch. Every time
> the
> > news was bad about him (like the Lewinsky
> > scandal), he'd start an air campaign to create
> > alternate news.
> >
> > "I did not have sex with that woman, and oops,
> > there goes Iraq operating in the No Fly Zone
> > again." BOOOOOM!
> >
> > 8-)
>
>
> Yeah, what an asshole. He bombed a Sudanese
> factory linked to Osama Bin Laden. Republicans at
> the time claimed he was "wagging the dog" because,
> in their wisdom, the Republicans didn't think Bin
> Laden was that much of a threat. Oh, and it was
> one of these "wag the dog" moments in Iraq that
> destroyed the few WMD stockpiles Saddam had left.

Yeah, and his bombing lead to the countless deaths of innocent Africans who could not get malaria medication because he bombed a building with no evidence and no good reason. Sound familiar? Bush pulled the same stunt in Iraq and is evil. Clinton pulled it in Sudan and is a hero. Man, what a fucking sheep you are.

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