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Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: And all through the Night ()
Date: December 02, 2019 11:19PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAH0eNLSp8

Getting interesting in the comments.


Who wants to tell Meade there is no Santa Claus?

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: look. the guy's a trumptard... ()
Date: December 03, 2019 12:17AM

Why do people expect him to suddenly say something smart?

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: It gets better ()
Date: December 03, 2019 11:10AM

The comments have grown overnight. There is even a tangent where Meade brings up his throwback views on interracial marriage. We all know how much fun THAT is.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Read the comments ()
Date: December 04, 2019 11:12AM

!20 views and 68 comments as of just now.

Best of all there is a person who actually knows and understands religion calling Meade out. This is being done without rancor just refuting everything Meade says with facts. Meade seems near the breaking point. From the timestamps, it looks like Meade was up until 3 this morning typing away!!!

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: the truth of the matter ()
Date: December 04, 2019 11:50AM

Read the comments Wrote:
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> !20 views and 68 comments as of just now.
>
> Best of all there is a person who actually knows
> and understands religion calling Meade out. This
> is being done without rancor just refuting
> everything Meade says with facts. Meade seems
> near the breaking point. From the timestamps, it
> looks like Meade was up until 3 this morning
> typing away!!!


lol. Meade is more than holding his own against poor little haleyscomet. Crazy liberal fools trying to tell us that Christmas isn't a Christian holiday. Who is stupid enough to believe that?

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Hi Meadr ()
Date: December 04, 2019 11:55AM

the truth of the matter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Read the comments Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > !20 views and 68 comments as of just now.
> >
> > Best of all there is a person who actually
> knows
> > and understands religion calling Meade out.
> This
> > is being done without rancor just refuting
> > everything Meade says with facts. Meade seems
> > near the breaking point. From the timestamps,
> it
> > looks like Meade was up until 3 this morning
> > typing away!!!
>
>
> lol. Meade is more than holding his own against
> poor little haleyscomet. Crazy liberal fools
> trying to tell us that Christmas isn't a Christian
> holiday. Who is stupid enough to believe that?

Meade, you are not holding your own. And no one is saying "Christmas isn't a Christian Holiday". All that is being said is that Christmas was piggybacked onto and got many of its traditions from the Winter Solstice festivals that predate the birth of Christ. You are the only one who seems to have a problem with that fact.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: wrong again crybaby ()
Date: December 04, 2019 12:01PM

Hi Meadr Wrote:
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> the truth of the matter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Read the comments Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > !20 views and 68 comments as of just now.
> > >
> > > Best of all there is a person who actually
> > knows
> > > and understands religion calling Meade out.
> > This
> > > is being done without rancor just refuting
> > > everything Meade says with facts. Meade
> seems
> > > near the breaking point. From the timestamps,
> > it
> > > looks like Meade was up until 3 this morning
> > > typing away!!!
> >
> >
> > lol. Meade is more than holding his own
> against
> > poor little haleyscomet. Crazy liberal fools
> > trying to tell us that Christmas isn't a
> Christian
> > holiday. Who is stupid enough to believe that?
>
> Meade, you are not holding your own. And no one is
> saying "Christmas isn't a Christian Holiday". All
> that is being said is that Christmas was
> piggybacked onto and got many of its traditions
> from the Winter Solstice festivals that predate
> the birth of Christ. You are the only one who
> seems to have a problem with that fact.


I'm not Meade (or Meadr) and Meade isn't saying they don't both occur during the same time of year. He's saying that the celebration of the birth of Christ is a separate holiday than the pagan's celebration of whatever the heck it is that they were celebrating. The fact that they occur at about the same time of year has nothing to do with "piggybacking". If there was any relationship, it was the Christians attempts to show the Godless heathens that their rituals and beliefs needed to be driven into the dustbin of history, which is pretty much what happened for 300 years. Now the Godless heathens are making a comeback.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Bullshit Meade ()
Date: December 04, 2019 12:12PM

wrong again crybaby Wrote:

> I'm not Meade (or Meadr) and Meade isn't saying
> they don't both occur during the same time of
> year. He's saying that the celebration of the
> birth of Christ is a separate holiday than the
> pagan's celebration of whatever the heck it is
> that they were celebrating. The fact that they
> occur at about the same time of year has nothing
> to do with "piggybacking". If there was any
> relationship, it was the Christians attempts to
> show the Godless heathens that their rituals and
> beliefs needed to be driven into the dustbin of
> history, which is pretty much what happened for
> 300 years. Now the Godless heathens are making a
> comeback.
Meade, you are the only one crying.
You do know that "Yuletime' derives from the Northen German winter solstice festival that predates Christianity. That festival featured decorating trees. Martin Luther may have been the first to take that idea and label it a "Christmas Tree" but he didn't come with it like your video claims.


there is a shit ton more of that stuff.

Here is a basic question that should be easy for a well-versed and knowledgable person on the subject.

Would you kindly provide some scholarship or scripture which tells that Jesus was born at the end of what is now December?

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Heathen holidays are dead ()
Date: December 04, 2019 12:17PM

Bullshit Meade Wrote:
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> wrong again crybaby Wrote:
>
> > I'm not Meade (or Meadr) and Meade isn't saying
> > they don't both occur during the same time of
> > year. He's saying that the celebration of the
> > birth of Christ is a separate holiday than the
> > pagan's celebration of whatever the heck it is
> > that they were celebrating. The fact that they
> > occur at about the same time of year has
> nothing
> > to do with "piggybacking". If there was any
> > relationship, it was the Christians attempts to
> > show the Godless heathens that their rituals
> and
> > beliefs needed to be driven into the dustbin of
> > history, which is pretty much what happened for
> > 300 years. Now the Godless heathens are making
> a
> > comeback.
> Meade, you are the only one crying.
> You do know that "Yuletime' derives from the
> Northen German winter solstice festival that
> predates Christianity. That festival featured
> decorating trees. Martin Luther may have been the
> first to take that idea and label it a "Christmas
> Tree" but he didn't come with it like your video
> claims.
>
>
> there is a shit ton more of that stuff.
>
> Here is a basic question that should be easy for a
> well-versed and knowledgable person on the
> subject.
>
> Would you kindly provide some scholarship or
> scripture which tells that Jesus was born at the
> end of what is now December?


I'm still not Meade. Let us know when there's a Yuletime holiday celebrated somewhere. On December 25th, we'll all be home enjoying giving and a holiday feast on a federal holiday known as "Christmas", not "Yuletime".

I don't know when Jesus was born. But we celebrate it on Dec. 25th. If you don't like it, then go celebrate the failed Kawanza scam. The 99.999999999999999% of the rest of us will be celebrating Christmas.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: what the fuck is wrong with you? ()
Date: December 04, 2019 12:45PM

Heathen holidays are dead Wrote:
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]
> I'm still not Meade. Let us know when there's a
> Yuletime holiday celebrated somewhere. On
> December 25th, we'll all be home enjoying giving
> and a holiday feast on a federal holiday known as
> "Christmas", not "Yuletime".
>
> I don't know when Jesus was born. But we
> celebrate it on Dec. 25th. If you don't like it,
> then go celebrate the failed Kawanza scam. The
> 99.999999999999999% of the rest of us will be
> celebrating Christmas.


No one knows when Christ was born. The reason they chose the date they did to celebrate was that there were already major celebrations on that time for the winter solstice. Much easier to piggyback and coopt an existing tradition than start a new one. Furthermore, many of our Christmas traditions date from those pre-Christian celebrations. Some Christians do not celebrate Christmas due to the pagan origins of these traditions. Meade is too idiotic to see this. Since you are not Meade, I'm sure you have more common sense than him.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: I know i know ()
Date: December 04, 2019 12:58PM

Why are we rehashing what is in the comments over there?

Meade wants to get his 'musical ministry' off the ground using these Sunday Sermons.

The problem is that truly learned people will call him on his crap.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: you don't know ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:01PM

I know i know Wrote:
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> Why are we rehashing what is in the comments over
> there?
>
> Meade wants to get his 'musical ministry' off the
> ground using these Sunday Sermons.
>
> The problem is that truly learned people will
> call him on his crap.


Wrong. Meade is simply saying Christmas is a Christian holiday. It's the fools trying to argue that it's really a pagan holiday because the Christians trounced all over their silly heathen rituals and won the day that are being called out for their crap. Meade is right. He just goes overboard sometimes because of a (well-deserved) siege mentality that he's had to endure from the dozen or so haters who can't let him be.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Meade ruins everything ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:09PM

you don't know Wrote:
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> I know i know Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why are we rehashing what is in the comments
> over
> > there?
> >
> > Meade wants to get his 'musical ministry' off
> the
> > ground using these Sunday Sermons.
> >
> > The problem is that truly learned people will
> > call him on his crap.
>
>
> Wrong. Meade is simply saying Christmas is a
> Christian holiday. It's the fools trying to argue
> that it's really a pagan holiday because the
> Christians trounced all over their silly heathen
> rituals and won the day that are being called out
> for their crap. Meade is right. He just goes
> overboard sometimes because of a (well-deserved)
> siege mentality that he's had to endure from the
> dozen or so haters who can't let him be.


All that is being asserted is that many traditions associated with Christmas go back much earlier to the preChristian Solstice celebrations. Pointing that out seems to upset Meade and he like yourself(who is 100% not Meade) sound stupid and confused when rebutting things that were never said.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: leaned people indeed ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:23PM

Meade ruins everything Wrote:
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> you don't know Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know i know Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why are we rehashing what is in the comments
> > over
> > > there?
> > >
> > > Meade wants to get his 'musical ministry'
> off
> > the
> > > ground using these Sunday Sermons.
> > >
> > > The problem is that truly learned people
> will
> > > call him on his crap.
> >
> >
> > Wrong. Meade is simply saying Christmas is a
> > Christian holiday. It's the fools trying to
> argue
> > that it's really a pagan holiday because the
> > Christians trounced all over their silly
> heathen
> > rituals and won the day that are being called
> out
> > for their crap. Meade is right. He just goes
> > overboard sometimes because of a
> (well-deserved)
> > siege mentality that he's had to endure from
> the
> > dozen or so haters who can't let him be.
>
>
> All that is being asserted is that many traditions
> associated with Christmas go back much earlier to
> the preChristian Solstice celebrations. Pointing
> that out seems to upset Meade and he like
> yourself(who is 100% not Meade) sound stupid and
> confused when rebutting things that were never
> said.


Nah. Humans have been decorating trees for thousands of years. Long before the heathens in Europe were doing it for their silly winter solstice. The Sumerians were doing it in ancient Iraq 2500 years before Jesus was born. Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus. The need of the heathen satanists to deny this obvious fact is what Meade is fighting against. Like I said, he might go a bit overboard at times, but he's correct at the core of what he's saying.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Did you watch the Video? ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:37PM

leaned people indeed Wrote:
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>
> Nah. Humans have been decorating trees for
> thousands of years. Long before the heathens in
> Europe were doing it for their silly winter
> solstice. The Sumerians were doing it in ancient
> Iraq 2500 years before Jesus was born. Christmas
> is a celebration of the birth of Jesus. The need
> of the heathen satanists to deny this obvious fact
> is what Meade is fighting against. Like I said,
> he might go a bit overboard at times, but he's
> correct at the core of what he's saying.


Not when he says in the video that Martin Luther was the first person to decorate a tree. He may be the first person to call it a "Christmas Tree". He grew up in an area that decorated trees at that time of year. He took a previous tradition and slapped a new name on it.

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It doesn't matter when Christ was born, its CHRIST-MAS
Posted by: Pagans stole Christmas ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:43PM

what the fuck is wrong with you? Wrote:
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> Heathen holidays are dead Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> ]
> > I'm still not Meade. Let us know when there's
> a
> > Yuletime holiday celebrated somewhere. On
> > December 25th, we'll all be home enjoying
> giving
> > and a holiday feast on a federal holiday known
> as
> > "Christmas", not "Yuletime".
> >
> > I don't know when Jesus was born. But we
> > celebrate it on Dec. 25th. If you don't like
> it,
> > then go celebrate the failed Kawanza scam. The
> > 99.999999999999999% of the rest of us will be
> > celebrating Christmas.
>
>
> No one knows when Christ was born. The reason they
> chose the date they did to celebrate was that
> there were already major celebrations on that time
> for the winter solstice. Much easier to piggyback
> and coopt an existing tradition than start a new
> one. Furthermore, many of our Christmas traditions
> date from those pre-Christian celebrations. Some
> Christians do not celebrate Christmas due to the
> pagan origins of these traditions. Meade is too
> idiotic to see this. Since you are not Meade, I'm
> sure you have more common sense than him.


Wrong, it was actually Pagans that adopted the Christian time of celebration. Look up the truth.

https://ibbarsoum.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/how-the-pagans-stole-christmas/

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Meade is good. Good is Meade. ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:45PM

Did you watch the Video? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> leaned people indeed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Nah. Humans have been decorating trees for
> > thousands of years. Long before the heathens
> in
> > Europe were doing it for their silly winter
> > solstice. The Sumerians were doing it in
> ancient
> > Iraq 2500 years before Jesus was born.
> Christmas
> > is a celebration of the birth of Jesus. The
> need
> > of the heathen satanists to deny this obvious
> fact
> > is what Meade is fighting against. Like I
> said,
> > he might go a bit overboard at times, but he's
> > correct at the core of what he's saying.
>
>
> Not when he says in the video that Martin Luther
> was the first person to decorate a tree. He may be
> the first person to call it a "Christmas Tree". He
> grew up in an area that decorated trees at that
> time of year. He took a previous tradition and
> slapped a new name on it.


He's no more wrong than you claiming it was the silly heathen pagans who were first to decorate a tree. He's expressing a larger idea that Martin Luther was one of the founders of modern Christmas and started the tradition of the Christmas tree. If Meade thinks ML was the first person to ever decorate a tree as part of a celebration, he's wrong of course. So are you if you think the silly heathen pagans were. You are confusing Christmas Tree with trees that were decorated for an outdoor celebration by countless communities and traditions for millennia. You have lost sight of the forest of Meade's wonderful message while you navel gaze the pine needles on the trees. Stop hating on Meade. He's harmless and trying to do good. What is it exactly that you do to better mankind?

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: Knowledge is good ()
Date: December 04, 2019 01:56PM

Actually, any religion before the three Abrahamic religions are called "Pagan".

The first people to decorate trees in honor of the Solstice and the return of the sun are rightfully called PAGAN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: you are not correct. Meade is. ()
Date: December 04, 2019 02:09PM

Knowledge is good Wrote:
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> Actually, any religion before the three Abrahamic
> religions are called "Pagan".
>
> The first people to decorate trees in honor of the
> Solstice and the return of the sun are rightfully
> called PAGAN.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism


So, in the first sentence of your own link, we find that Paganism was a term first used by early Christians to denounce the polytheism of the Roman empire. This was long after two of the three Abrahamic religions existed (Jews for at least 2000 years and Christians for 350 years). Today, paganism is used to express a worship of nature and natural things vs a divine deity per se. You should read your own sources before spouting off about them.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: i'll buy that for a dollar ()
Date: December 04, 2019 02:26PM

you are not correct. Meade is. Wrote:
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> Knowledge is good Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, any religion before the three
> Abrahamic
> > religions are called "Pagan".
> >
> > The first people to decorate trees in honor of
> the
> > Solstice and the return of the sun are
> rightfully
> > called PAGAN.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism
>
>
> So, in the first sentence of your own link, we
> find that Paganism was a term first used by early
> Christians to denounce the polytheism of the Roman
> empire. This was long after two of the three
> Abrahamic religions existed (Jews for at least
> 2000 years and Christians for 350 years). Today,
> paganism is used to express a worship of nature
> and natural things vs a divine deity per se. You
> should read your own sources before spouting off
> about them.

I fucked up. I should have qualified "before" to "before those religions became prevalent in a region". However, you bring up a very good point. Worshipping trees is at the center of most of the Pagans sects who worshipped nature. That history of the idolatry of trees is one of the reasons certain Christians find that tradition odious.

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Re: Meade...on Christmas....Oh MY
Posted by: We're all Mad here ()
Date: December 05, 2019 11:43AM

The video has 167 views and 87 comments.

How lopsided can that be?

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