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A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Adm. Rogers knows ()
Date: September 29, 2019 08:46AM

why was the guy in charge of CrowdStrike a former FBI official who was close to and put in charge of cyber-security at the FBI by one Robert Mueller?

Why so the same two names keep popping up everywhere when it comes to investigating the Clintons (Mueller & Comey) over two-and-a-half decades of investigations?

Why do the same names come up when it comes to investigating Trump (Mueller, Comey, Strozk, McCabe)?

Why does the media not look into any of this and is actually covering all this up? Chuck Todd actually got angry because someone said the Bidens needed to be investigated, saying that case is closed. What the actual fuck?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: The way I see this thing ()
Date: September 29, 2019 09:14AM

Trump is a threat to the business as usual that the Uniparty bureaucrats and LE/FBI/CIA have had a monopoly on. Not necessarily because Trump is so honest and wants to "drain the swamp", he may just want a piece of the swamp for himself.

Either way, it stirs up the pot. All of the lifelong relationships and secret deals are in jeopardy. And the fact that a political novice was elected means another political novice may be able to do the same.

I don't like the term "Deep State" because of it's conspiratorial sound, but it is accurate. Their best hope, and it was a true Hail Mary, was to shake the trees with the Steele Dossier and hope something damning would emerge from elsewhere. If they had pinned a good scandal on Trump early in 2017, they may have been able to nip it all in the bud. Instead, the economy soared and Trump proved political experience is not needed if you delegate authority well enough.

Now the Dems and opposition want to push the narrative that Trump is more hassle than he is worth and hope independent voters will move left. But they've tried hard and no one cares about Stormy Daniels or the other boring "scandals" they have tried to raise.

And, not many people on the right, left or center really trust the CIA and intel community much after they botched 9/11 and the Iraq WMD debacle.

I don't agree with Trumps personal style, but his policies appear to be working and he has resisted the temptation to go to war. Not so sure Hillary would have done the same.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: rotten to the core ()
Date: September 29, 2019 11:14AM

It's always the same at the core...

 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: The way it is ()
Date: September 29, 2019 11:37AM

Kennedy knew all about the CIA (and they killed him for sounding the alarm):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5563viRC2w


Truman, who created the CIA, also knew what a mistake that turned out to be:

“This quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role that it is being interpreted as a symbol of sinister and mysterious foreign intrigue—and subject for cold war enemy propaganda" Harry S. Truman, 12/22/1963, Washington Post Op Ed (one month after Kennedy was killed in a crossfire in Dallas)

Trump better watch out for these guys. As Chuck Schumer warned Trump about watching his step trying to clean up the CIA. "They have 6 ways to Sunday" to get back at you Chuckie said two weeks before Trump took office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCtIdpBocNA

Dems are OK with all of this because orange man bad. Fucking traitorous motherfuckers.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Vxhn ()
Date: September 29, 2019 11:52AM

Whenever someone, regardless of socio-economic status tries to take on entities like the CIA, it always works out bad for them. One should not poke out their own eyes to spite their face. Trump’s is the author of his own impeachment.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: USA v CIA ()
Date: September 29, 2019 02:35PM

Vxhn Wrote:
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> Whenever someone, regardless of socio-economic
> status tries to take on entities like the CIA, it
> always works out bad for them. One should not poke
> out their own eyes to spite their face. Trump’s
> is the author of his own impeachment.


Wut? The CIA is the all powerful entity that rules us all? That is majorly fucked up if true. They need to be dismantled and we need another run at this then.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: stinky  ()
Date: September 29, 2019 04:17PM

A couple more questions that i have ask....

Why did the CIA change their whistle blower rules to allow 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge within the bounds of whistle blower protection? What could go wrong? Anyone can tell anyone that they heard anything and that person can now anonymously report anything they want.

Why did Adam Schiff travel to Ukraine 10 days after the whistle blower file his complaint?

Why did Adam Schiff tweet that Trump was working with the Ukrainian government to spy on Joe biden two weeks before congress was notified that a whistle blower had reported the incident to the acting DNI director?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Big brother protects us ()
Date: September 29, 2019 05:31PM

USA v CIA Wrote:
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> Vxhn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whenever someone, regardless of socio-economic
> > status tries to take on entities like the CIA,
> it
> > always works out bad for them. One should not
> poke
> > out their own eyes to spite their face.
> Trump’s
> > is the author of his own impeachment.
>
>
> Wut? The CIA is the all powerful entity that
> rules us all? That is majorly fucked up if true.
> They need to be dismantled and we need another run
> at this then.

No, they are just doing their jobs protecting us.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: America is getting scammed ()
Date: September 29, 2019 06:28PM

stinky  Wrote:
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> A couple more questions that i have ask....
>
> Why did the CIA change their whistle blower rules
> to allow 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge within the
> bounds of whistle blower protection? What could
> go wrong? Anyone can tell anyone that they heard
> anything and that person can now anonymously
> report anything they want.
>
> Why did Adam Schiff travel to Ukraine 10 days
> after the whistle blower file his complaint?
>
> Why did Adam Schiff tweet that Trump was working
> with the Ukrainian government to spy on Joe biden
> two weeks before congress was notified that a
> whistle blower had reported the incident to the
> acting DNI director?

It's obviously politically motivated. I doubt the Democrats would have wanted this policy while they had the White House, Obama definitely would have been impeached.

The trick now is to change the policy back without the public noticing. Have to protect your guy when they get the power back.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: osidfkj ()
Date: September 29, 2019 06:45PM

WHY DON'T YOU REVIEW SOME VA STATE OR FEDERAL SPENDING LAWS AND REPORT TO US ANY MIS-APPROPRIATED MONEY

instead of bashing trump?

why is because your a foreign terrorist who lies on ffu continuously - paid by democrats to do it

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: rummy ()
Date: September 30, 2019 06:05AM

America is getting scammed Wrote:
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> stinky  Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A couple more questions that i have ask....
> >
> > Why did the CIA change their whistle blower
> rules
> > to allow 2nd and 3rd hand knowledge within the
> > bounds of whistle blower protection? What
> could
> > go wrong? Anyone can tell anyone that they
> heard
> > anything and that person can now anonymously
> > report anything they want.
> >
> > Why did Adam Schiff travel to Ukraine 10 days
> > after the whistle blower file his complaint?
> >
> > Why did Adam Schiff tweet that Trump was
> working
> > with the Ukrainian government to spy on Joe
> biden
> > two weeks before congress was notified that a
> > whistle blower had reported the incident to the
> > acting DNI director?
>
> It's obviously politically motivated. I doubt the
> Democrats would have wanted this policy while they
> had the White House, Obama definitely would have
> been impeached.
>
> The trick now is to change the policy back without
> the public noticing. Have to protect your guy when
> they get the power back.


There is no more nobody noticing anymore. The intel agencies (and FBI) have become so politicized that someone is going to tell the press about it, no matter whether it's a lib or con doing it.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: so retardedly naive ()
Date: September 30, 2019 07:10AM

Big brother protects us Wrote:
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> USA v CIA Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > Wut? The CIA is the all powerful entity that
> > rules us all? That is majorly fucked up if
> true.
> > They need to be dismantled and we need another
> run
> > at this then.
>
> No, they are just doing their jobs protecting us.


 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: It's all coming out in the wash ()
Date: September 30, 2019 07:49AM

Just a few more questions if you don't mind.

Why was Adam Schiff going to Ukraine on the 22nd of August for a conference of the Atlantic Council (a shadowy globalist business group)?

Why did he cancel and send an aide instead at the last minute - after Jerry Nadler told him that it would look inappropriate for him to go 'at this time'?

Why are both the founder of CrowdStrike and James Clapper on the advisory board of the Atlantic Council?

Why did Burmisa (the Ukrainian energy company Biden's son was bribed by) form a business partnership with the Atlantic Council 3 days before Trump took office and 2 months of Ukraine dropped all investigations into the company?

Anyone know the answer to any of the questions that have been asked. So far, crickets.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: i know the answers ()
Date: September 30, 2019 07:56AM

It's all coming out in the wash Wrote:
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> Just a few more questions if you don't mind.
>
> Why was Adam Schiff going to Ukraine on the 22nd
> of August for a conference of the Atlantic Council
> (a shadowy globalist business group)?
>
> Why did he cancel and send an aide instead at the
> last minute - after Jerry Nadler told him that it
> would look inappropriate for him to go 'at this
> time'?
>
> Why are both the founder of CrowdStrike and James
> Clapper on the advisory board of the Atlantic
> Council?
>
> Why did Burmisa (the Ukrainian energy company
> Biden's son was bribed by) form a business
> partnership with the Atlantic Council 3 days
> before Trump took office and 2 months of Ukraine
> dropped all investigations into the company?
>
> Anyone know the answer to any of the questions
> that have been asked. So far, crickets.

Two words: George Soros!!!

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: spooks hate the sunlight ()
Date: September 30, 2019 08:41AM

Damn, these intel guys are getting lazy. The used to pull this stuff off without anyone ever pushing back or even knowing what happened. Changing the rules of whistleblower protection status would have sailed by quietly in the night without anyone ever knowing about it. Schiff tweeting knowledge of an event a month before it supposedly would have been sent to him would have been covered up and deleted immediately. Global business groups with ties to all the players would never even be acknowledged as exiting, much less publish their ties on their own websites.

Too cocky. And it will save Trump in the end.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: more losing effort for trumptard ()
Date: September 30, 2019 09:18AM

Conspiracy theories are for losers. Literal losers.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: fixing faggot's fails ()
Date: September 30, 2019 09:58AM

more losing effort for trumptard Wrote:
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> Conspiracy theories are for losers. Literal
> losers.
I can't answer your questions so I'll
> call you names instead.


FIFY

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: things that make one go hmmm.... ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:04AM

A couple more questions have sprung up. Thanks for any answers.

Why did Nancy Pelosi say on 60 Minutes last night that she already knew what was in the Trump/Zelensky phone call before the transcript was released? She stammered like the retard she is when she realized how she just fucked up.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1178626571013431296

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: my second question ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:07AM

Why did a spokesperson for the DNI tell Tom Elliot of The Federalist that, "We have no comment on the president's call with the president of Ukraine." when asked who changed the requirement for whistle blower protection from 'direct knowledge' to hearsay and when the change was made? Elliot never mentioned Trump or the phone call.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Fox Mulder ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:26AM

If someone knows the answer to this one, please weigh in.

Why did the chair of the House Intelligence Committee (Adam Schiff) send two committee staff to the Ukraine in mid-August to meet with the former president of the Ukraine, who had recently lost his reelection bid to an outsider with no political experience or ties?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Does this make sense ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:30AM

A quick reply to this question would be appreciated.

Why was everyone OK with the previous administration actively destabilizing a country, leading to the death of that country's leader and creating a terrorist haven that ended up costing the lives of our ambassador and several CIA operatives but is having a meltdown that Trump asked another country to look into corruption that occurred in that previous administration?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: trailer park treason ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:48AM

Does this make sense Wrote:
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> A quick reply to this question would be
> appreciated.
>
> Why was everyone OK with the previous
> administration actively destabilizing a country,
> leading to the death of that country's leader and
> creating a terrorist haven that ended up costing
> the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> operatives but is having a meltdown that Trump
> asked another country to look into corruption that
> occurred in that previous administration?

Answer: when all else fails, play the strawman card

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: don't hate on the messenger ()
Date: September 30, 2019 10:50AM

trailer park treason Wrote:
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> Does this make sense Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A quick reply to this question would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > administration actively destabilizing a
> country,
> > leading to the death of that country's leader
> and
> > creating a terrorist haven that ended up
> costing
> > the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> > operatives but is having a meltdown that Trump
> > asked another country to look into corruption
> that
> > occurred in that previous administration?
>
> Answer: when all else fails, play the strawman
> card


Another non-answer. So far, not one. Figures.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Damarris Fuques ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:04AM

don't hate on the messenger Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> trailer park treason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Does this make sense Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A quick reply to this question would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > > administration actively destabilizing a
> > country,
> > > leading to the death of that country's leader
> > and
> > > creating a terrorist haven that ended up
> > costing
> > > the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> > > operatives but is having a meltdown that
> Trump
> > > asked another country to look into corruption
> > that
> > > occurred in that previous administration?
> >
> > Answer: when all else fails, play the strawman
> > card
>
>
> Another non-answer. So far, not one. Figures.


Mouth breather. I would claim you were a Russian Troll, but they have better written communication skills than you.


Now, the conspiracy is with Trump, Bill Barr, Rudy and Joe Degenova. Read the following


On Sunday, Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed WMAL commentator Joe DiGenova an his wife were helping Giuliani in the Ukraine to try and manufacture dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani was not working alone, Wallace said. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-was-not-working-alone-in-biden-ukraine-probe This morning,on WMAL, Joe trashed that report, minimizing it, and saying he was asked by the White House to represent a "whistle blower" in Ukraine. But, Joe continued, he never went to the country because his trip was cancelled. So, he really wasn't that involved. Joe forgot to mention he was, in fact, hired in the past week or so to represent in the United States a Ukrainian natural gas tycoon, Victor Firtash, who is fighting extradition to the US for bribery and fraud. Virtash was recently hyped up by the former and corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine, Viktor Shokin, who is at the center of the this Biden controversy. https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-prosecutor-general-shokin-defends-oligarch-firtash.html If the United States Department of Justice wants to extradite and put on trial on corruption charges, here, Victor Firtash, why is WMAL's Joe DiGenova not only working to keep this guy out of our country and away from our legal system, but also, working with him to build a case against Biden, sidestepping any Justice department, State Department, or Congressional input and protocol? DiGenova should have revealed his contract with Ukraine's Firtash, and Vince and Mary should have asked him why he is working on two different angles to avoid the Justice Department.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Bore Us More ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:09AM

Damarris Fuques Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> don't hate on the messenger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > trailer park treason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Does this make sense Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > A quick reply to this question would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > > > administration actively destabilizing a
> > > country,
> > > > leading to the death of that country's
> leader
> > > and
> > > > creating a terrorist haven that ended up
> > > costing
> > > > the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> > > > operatives but is having a meltdown that
> > Trump
> > > > asked another country to look into
> corruption
> > > that
> > > > occurred in that previous administration?
> > >
> > > Answer: when all else fails, play the
> strawman
> > > card
> >
> >
> > Another non-answer. So far, not one. Figures.
>
>
> Mouth breather. I would claim you were a Russian
> Troll, but they have better written communication
> skills than you.
>
>
> Now, the conspiracy is with Trump, Bill Barr, Rudy
> and Joe Degenova. Read the following
>
>
> On Sunday, Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed WMAL
> commentator Joe DiGenova an his wife were helping
> Giuliani in the Ukraine to try and manufacture
> dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani was not working
> alone, Wallace said.
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-was-not-
> working-alone-in-biden-ukraine-probe This
> morning,on WMAL, Joe trashed that report,
> minimizing it, and saying he was asked by the
> White House to represent a "whistle blower" in
> Ukraine. But, Joe continued, he never went to the
> country because his trip was cancelled. So, he
> really wasn't that involved. Joe forgot to
> mention he was, in fact, hired in the past week or
> so to represent in the United States a Ukrainian
> natural gas tycoon, Victor Firtash, who is
> fighting extradition to the US for bribery and
> fraud. Virtash was recently hyped up by the
> former and corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine, Viktor
> Shokin, who is at the center of the this Biden
> controversy.
> https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-prose
> cutor-general-shokin-defends-oligarch-firtash.html
> If the United States Department of Justice
> wants to extradite and put on trial on corruption
> charges, here, Victor Firtash, why is WMAL's Joe
> DiGenova not only working to keep this guy out of
> our country and away from our legal system, but
> also, working with him to build a case against
> Biden, sidestepping any Justice department, State
> Department, or Congressional input and protocol?
> DiGenova should have revealed his contract with
> Ukraine's Firtash, and Vince and Mary should have
> asked him why he is working on two different
> angles to avoid the Justice Department.


Sure cupcake. The prosecutor is corrupt because the people he was investigating say so. No evidence is ever presented to show this corruption. Just the word of the previous leaders of the Ukraine, who were corrupt as shit and in bed with the Bidens and Ukrainian and Putin oligarchs. Fool!

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: You've figured it all out!!!! ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:14AM

Damarris Fuques Wrote:
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> don't hate on the messenger Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > trailer park treason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Does this make sense Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > A quick reply to this question would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > > > administration actively destabilizing a
> > > country,
> > > > leading to the death of that country's
> leader
> > > and
> > > > creating a terrorist haven that ended up
> > > costing
> > > > the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> > > > operatives but is having a meltdown that
> > Trump
> > > > asked another country to look into
> corruption
> > > that
> > > > occurred in that previous administration?
> > >
> > > Answer: when all else fails, play the
> strawman
> > > card
> >
> >
> > Another non-answer. So far, not one. Figures.
>
>
> Mouth breather. I would claim you were a Russian
> Troll, but they have better written communication
> skills than you.
>
>
> Now, the conspiracy is with Trump, Bill Barr, Rudy
> and Joe Degenova. Read the following
>
>
> On Sunday, Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed WMAL
> commentator Joe DiGenova an his wife were helping
> Giuliani in the Ukraine to try and manufacture
> dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani was not working
> alone, Wallace said.
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-was-not-
> working-alone-in-biden-ukraine-probe This
> morning,on WMAL, Joe trashed that report,
> minimizing it, and saying he was asked by the
> White House to represent a "whistle blower" in
> Ukraine. But, Joe continued, he never went to the
> country because his trip was cancelled. So, he
> really wasn't that involved. Joe forgot to
> mention he was, in fact, hired in the past week or
> so to represent in the United States a Ukrainian
> natural gas tycoon, Victor Firtash, who is
> fighting extradition to the US for bribery and
> fraud. Virtash was recently hyped up by the
> former and corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine, Viktor
> Shokin, who is at the center of the this Biden
> controversy.
> https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-prose
> cutor-general-shokin-defends-oligarch-firtash.html
> If the United States Department of Justice
> wants to extradite and put on trial on corruption
> charges, here, Victor Firtash, why is WMAL's Joe
> DiGenova not only working to keep this guy out of
> our country and away from our legal system, but
> also, working with him to build a case against
> Biden, sidestepping any Justice department, State
> Department, or Congressional input and protocol?
> DiGenova should have revealed his contract with
> Ukraine's Firtash, and Vince and Mary should have
> asked him why he is working on two different
> angles to avoid the Justice Department.


Wow, that brain-vomit is really connect the dots there. lol


 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Qb ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:20AM

Does this make sense Wrote:
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> A quick reply to this question would be
> appreciated.
>
> Why was everyone OK with the previous
> administration actively destabilizing a country,
> leading to the death of that country's leader and
> creating a terrorist haven that ended up costing
> the lives of our ambassador and several CIA
> operatives but is having a meltdown that Trump
> asked another country to look into corruption that
> occurred in that previous administration?


But what about Hillary’s emails and George Soros?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: still waiting for answers, but ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:51AM

Just a quick question here.

Why is it OK for three US senators to write a letter to the president of Ukraine, explicitly threatening to withhold support for his country unless his government cooperates with the Mueller probe? Isn't that "treason"?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: woody the Carpenter ()
Date: September 30, 2019 11:57AM

Bore Us More Wrote:
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> Damarris Fuques Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > don't hate on the messenger Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > trailer park treason Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Does this make sense Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > A quick reply to this question would be
> > > > > appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > > > > administration actively destabilizing a
> > > > country,
> > > > > leading to the death of that country's
> > leader
> > > > and
> > > > > creating a terrorist haven that ended up
> > > > costing
> > > > > the lives of our ambassador and several
> CIA
> > > > > operatives but is having a meltdown that
> > > Trump
> > > > > asked another country to look into
> > corruption
> > > > that
> > > > > occurred in that previous administration?
> > > >
> > > > Answer: when all else fails, play the
> > strawman
> > > > card
> > >
> > >
> > > Another non-answer. So far, not one.
> Figures.
> >
> >
> > Mouth breather. I would claim you were a
> Russian
> > Troll, but they have better written
> communication
> > skills than you.
> >
> >
> > Now, the conspiracy is with Trump, Bill Barr,
> Rudy
> > and Joe Degenova. Read the following
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed
> WMAL
> > commentator Joe DiGenova an his wife were
> helping
> > Giuliani in the Ukraine to try and manufacture
> > dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani was not working
> > alone, Wallace said.
> >
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-was-not-
>
> > working-alone-in-biden-ukraine-probe This
> > morning,on WMAL, Joe trashed that report,
> > minimizing it, and saying he was asked by the
> > White House to represent a "whistle blower" in
> > Ukraine. But, Joe continued, he never went to
> the
> > country because his trip was cancelled. So,
> he
> > really wasn't that involved. Joe forgot to
> > mention he was, in fact, hired in the past week
> or
> > so to represent in the United States a
> Ukrainian
> > natural gas tycoon, Victor Firtash, who is
> > fighting extradition to the US for bribery and
> > fraud. Virtash was recently hyped up by the
> > former and corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine,
> Viktor
> > Shokin, who is at the center of the this Biden
> > controversy.
> >
> https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-prose
>
> >
> cutor-general-shokin-defends-oligarch-firtash.html
>
> > If the United States Department of Justice
> > wants to extradite and put on trial on
> corruption
> > charges, here, Victor Firtash, why is WMAL's
> Joe
> > DiGenova not only working to keep this guy out
> of
> > our country and away from our legal system,
> but
> > also, working with him to build a case against
> > Biden, sidestepping any Justice department,
> State
> > Department, or Congressional input and protocol?
>
> > DiGenova should have revealed his contract
> with
> > Ukraine's Firtash, and Vince and Mary should
> have
> > asked him why he is working on two different
> > angles to avoid the Justice Department.
>
>
> Sure cupcake. The prosecutor is corrupt because
> the people he was investigating say so. No
> evidence is ever presented to show this
> corruption. Just the word of the previous leaders
> of the Ukraine, who were corrupt as shit and in
> bed with the Bidens and Ukrainian and Putin
> oligarchs. Fool!

At the time, the following organizations wanted Shokin out because of his corruption

The United States Department of State.
NATO
The European Union
International Monetary Fund
The United Kingdom Parliament


Quote
No
> evidence is ever presented to show this
> corruption.



As Bloomberg News pointed out in May,The specifics of Shokin's corruption are most obvious in what he did not do. Shokin was particularly opposed to investigating high-wealth individuals suspected of corruption. Why those individuals? Presumably because a little of their high wealth would find its way into Shokin's hands if he was able to make their problems go away. This obviously infuriated civil society activists who noticed that Shokin was stonewalling obvious investigative needs."

At about the same time, In February 2016, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40 billion from Ukraine unless Ukraine undertook “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption after the country’s economic minister and his team resigned to protest government corruption. That same month, a “reform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Services report.


Do you recall, Shokin served as prosecutor general under Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine who fled to Russia after he was removed from power in 2014 and was later found guilty of treason? Shokin remained in power after Yanukovych’s ouster, but Shokin failed “to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption,” according to testimony John E. Herbst, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under President George W. Bush, gave in March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.


So, what the hell are you talking about?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: nobody believes the press anymor ()
Date: September 30, 2019 12:04PM

woody the Carpenter Wrote:
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> Bore Us More Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Damarris Fuques Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > don't hate on the messenger Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > trailer park treason Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Does this make sense Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > A quick reply to this question would be
> > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why was everyone OK with the previous
> > > > > > administration actively destabilizing a
> > > > > country,
> > > > > > leading to the death of that country's
> > > leader
> > > > > and
> > > > > > creating a terrorist haven that ended
> up
> > > > > costing
> > > > > > the lives of our ambassador and several
> > CIA
> > > > > > operatives but is having a meltdown
> that
> > > > Trump
> > > > > > asked another country to look into
> > > corruption
> > > > > that
> > > > > > occurred in that previous
> administration?
> > > > >
> > > > > Answer: when all else fails, play the
> > > strawman
> > > > > card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Another non-answer. So far, not one.
> > Figures.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mouth breather. I would claim you were a
> > Russian
> > > Troll, but they have better written
> > communication
> > > skills than you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, the conspiracy is with Trump, Bill Barr,
> > Rudy
> > > and Joe Degenova. Read the following
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sunday, Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed
> > WMAL
> > > commentator Joe DiGenova an his wife were
> > helping
> > > Giuliani in the Ukraine to try and
> manufacture
> > > dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani was not working
> > > alone, Wallace said.
> > >
> >
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-was-not-
>
> >
> > > working-alone-in-biden-ukraine-probe This
> > > morning,on WMAL, Joe trashed that report,
> > > minimizing it, and saying he was asked by the
> > > White House to represent a "whistle blower"
> in
> > > Ukraine. But, Joe continued, he never went
> to
> > the
> > > country because his trip was cancelled.
> So,
> > he
> > > really wasn't that involved. Joe forgot to
> > > mention he was, in fact, hired in the past
> week
> > or
> > > so to represent in the United States a
> > Ukrainian
> > > natural gas tycoon, Victor Firtash, who is
> > > fighting extradition to the US for bribery
> and
> > > fraud. Virtash was recently hyped up by the
> > > former and corrupt prosecutor in Ukraine,
> > Viktor
> > > Shokin, who is at the center of the this
> Biden
> > > controversy.
> > >
> >
> https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-prose
>
> >
> > >
> >
> cutor-general-shokin-defends-oligarch-firtash.html
>
> >
> > > If the United States Department of Justice
> > > wants to extradite and put on trial on
> > corruption
> > > charges, here, Victor Firtash, why is WMAL's
> > Joe
> > > DiGenova not only working to keep this guy
> out
> > of
> > > our country and away from our legal system,
> > but
> > > also, working with him to build a case
> against
> > > Biden, sidestepping any Justice department,
> > State
> > > Department, or Congressional input and
> protocol?
> >
> > > DiGenova should have revealed his contract
> > with
> > > Ukraine's Firtash, and Vince and Mary should
> > have
> > > asked him why he is working on two different
> > > angles to avoid the Justice Department.
> >
> >
> > Sure cupcake. The prosecutor is corrupt
> because
> > the people he was investigating say so. No
> > evidence is ever presented to show this
> > corruption. Just the word of the previous
> leaders
> > of the Ukraine, who were corrupt as shit and in
> > bed with the Bidens and Ukrainian and Putin
> > oligarchs. Fool!
>
> At the time, the following organizations wanted
> Shokin out because of his corruption
>
> The United States Department of State.
> NATO
> The European Union
> International Monetary Fund
> The United Kingdom Parliament
>
>
> Quote
> No
> > evidence is ever presented to show this
> > corruption.
>
>
>
> As Bloomberg News pointed out in May,The specifics
> of Shokin's corruption are most obvious in what he
> did not do. Shokin was particularly opposed to
> investigating high-wealth individuals suspected of
> corruption. Why those individuals? Presumably
> because a little of their high wealth would find
> its way into Shokin's hands if he was able to make
> their problems go away. This obviously infuriated
> civil society activists who noticed that Shokin
> was stonewalling obvious investigative needs."
>
> At about the same time, In February 2016,
> International Monetary Fund Managing Director
> Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40
> billion from Ukraine unless Ukraine undertook
> “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption
> after the country’s economic minister and his
> team resigned to protest government corruption.
> That same month, a “reform-minded deputy
> prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts
> to address government corruption had been
> consistently stymied by his own prosecutor
> general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3,
> 2017, Congressional Research Services report.
>
>
> Do you recall, Shokin served as prosecutor general
> under Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of
> Ukraine who fled to Russia after he was removed
> from power in 2014 and was later found guilty of
> treason? Shokin remained in power after
> Yanukovych’s ouster, but Shokin failed “to
> indict any major figures from the Yanukovych
> administration for corruption,” according to
> testimony John E. Herbst, a former U.S. ambassador
> to Ukraine under President George W. Bush, gave in
> March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign
> Relations Committee.
>
>
> So, what the hell are you talking about?


So, your 'evidence' is what this guy didn't do? OK, got it. Guess that makes every fucking Obama official guilty of corruption then. STFU dumbfuq. There is no there there. Let's see the fucking documents that prove corruption. Rudy has a 6 inch stack of receipts and sworn testimony/depositions. Per usual, you fucking libs produce 'news stories' with nothing but conclusions based on what they've been told but no facts.

Fail.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the silence is deafening here ()
Date: September 30, 2019 01:20PM

another couple of questions looking for answers to mate with.

If Trump is so corrupt, why did they have to change the whistle blower rules, finalized and new forms printed two weeks before the whistle blower reported his case, in order to make these charges?

Why didn't all those leakers who talked with the whistle blower just blow the whistle themselves? They were supposedly the ones with first hand knowledge of all this. The whistle blower said that he had five leakers tell him stuff. Is he some kind of great listener and everyone comes to him to tell him their secrets and concerns?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Bueller? ()
Date: September 30, 2019 01:40PM

These questions would like an answer or two.

Why are the very institutions (CIA, FBI, DNI) that are charged with protecting our country and things like our elections the ones undermining our country and messing around in our elections?

Why are they accusing Trump of working with foreign governments to undermine political opponents based on information from unfriendly foreign intelligence agencies that they themselves were working with to undermine Trump, their political opponent?

Why did the press and the democrats have to lie about things like quid pro quo and Trump threatening aid when we can read the transcript ourselves and see that there was no threat, no mention of aid at all and no quid pro quo? Does the press and the democrats think we're all retarded and will just believe them?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: deep state scandal ()
Date: September 30, 2019 01:50PM

Bueller? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> These questions would like an answer or two.
>
> Why are the very institutions (CIA, FBI, DNI) that
> are charged with protecting our country and things
> like our elections the ones undermining our
> country and messing around in our elections?

Answer: Hillary’s emails


> Why are they accusing Trump of working with
> foreign governments to undermine political
> opponents based on information from unfriendly
> foreign intelligence agencies that they themselves
> were working with to undermine Trump, their
> political opponent?

Answer: George Soros

> Why did the press and the democrats have to lie
> about things like quid pro quo and Trump
> threatening aid when we can read the transcript
> ourselves and see that there was no threat, no
> mention of aid at all and no quid pro quo? Does
> the press and the democrats think we're all
> retarded and will just believe them?

Answer: Benghazi!!!!

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Bueller still missing ()
Date: September 30, 2019 01:53PM

deep state scandal Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bueller? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > These questions would like an answer or two.
> >
> > Why are the very institutions (CIA, FBI, DNI)
> that
> > are charged with protecting our country and
> things
> > like our elections the ones undermining our
> > country and messing around in our elections?
>
> Answer: Hillary’s emails
>
>
> > Why are they accusing Trump of working with
> > foreign governments to undermine political
> > opponents based on information from unfriendly
> > foreign intelligence agencies that they
> themselves
> > were working with to undermine Trump, their
> > political opponent?
>
> Answer: George Soros
>
> > Why did the press and the democrats have to lie
> > about things like quid pro quo and Trump
> > threatening aid when we can read the transcript
> > ourselves and see that there was no threat, no
> > mention of aid at all and no quid pro quo?
> Does
> > the press and the democrats think we're all
> > retarded and will just believe them?
>
> Answer: Benghazi!!!!


So, you got nothing. That's OK. That's all anyone has to these questions. The answers are out there, but no one seems to want to admit the truth.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: speaking of clinton emails ()
Date: October 02, 2019 08:19AM

As the previous questions received no answers except Clinton and emails, perhaps these might be easier. TIA

Why did CrowdStrike, which was fully aligned with the DNC, have exclusive contracts with the FBI for "unspecified cyber-security services" throughout the entire time the FBI was working to spy on the Trump campaign?

Why did the FBI never demand to see the Clinton email server and instead instead rely exclusively on a report from CrowdStrike, which blamed the Russians?

Why did Admiral Mike Rogers not renew contracts with CrowdStrike after he became director of the NSA in 2014 when they came up for renewal in early 2015?

Why did, less than 3 months later, the FBI contract with CrowdStike (in the above mentioned question), during a time when the FBI was beginning to investigate the Clinton email server, of which CrowdStike was a critical entity?

These should be easy to answer.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: speaking of Benghazi ()
Date: October 02, 2019 10:41AM

The non-answerer on here keeps bringing up Benghazi so let's ask a couple questions about that too, since he seems to want to. Answers are appreciated.


Why was Christopher Stevens in Benghazi when every embassy and ambassador in the world, and especially in Muslim countries and doubly especially in those with no functioning central government, were told to stay behind the embassy walls as it was 9-11 and our stellar intel services had picked up increased chatter from Muslim terrorist organizations?

Why did Christopher Stevens meet with a Turkish "diplomat" in Benghazi the night of the attack? The attack occurred 3 hours after the Turk left the mission.

Why did the Obama administration blame a youtube video that has less than 200 views for the attack? Why was there never a trail for the "film maker"?

Why was the CIA annex located in Benghazi (a hub of weapon trafficking for the entire region)?

How did the Syrian rebels get their hands on manpads that had previously been in Libya?

There are at least a dozen more questions that have never been answered on Benghazi. But let's start with these. All of these are fact-based-questions btw

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Trump scientist ()
Date: October 02, 2019 10:59AM

I too, have noticed a lack of answers to important questions that the liberal media and koolaid drinking never-trumpers avoid answering. Anyone?

If you are driving in a car at the speed of light and turn on your headlights, would the headlights work? Would they illuminate objects in your path?

Who is buried in Grant’s tomb?

What is the real meaning of Euler’s Identity? e^i(pi)-1=0

Is your refrigerator running?

There are at least a hundred more of these questions being asked by many people everyday, but no one seems to answer them. Why?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Bernie's dying ()
Date: October 02, 2019 11:07AM

Trump scientist Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I too, have noticed a lack of answers to important
> questions that the liberal media and koolaid
> drinking never-trumpers avoid answering. Anyone?
>
> If you are driving in a car at the speed of light
> and turn on your headlights, would the headlights
> work? Would they illuminate objects in your
> path?
>
> Who is buried in Grant’s tomb?
>
> What is the real meaning of Euler’s Identity?
> e^i(pi)-1=0
>
> Is your refrigerator running?
>
> There are at least a hundred more of these
> questions being asked by many people everyday, but
> no one seems to answer them. Why?


So, still no answers then? That's OK, I have more.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Mike Rogers, American hero ()
Date: October 02, 2019 01:57PM

Just a quick question that someone might know the answer to. Thanks

Why did the "whistle blower" submit the complaint using the older, original form but noted that the information was second hand and then the ICIG changed the form to allow 2nd hand (i.e. hearsay) and had the "whistle blower" use the newly changed form?

The ICIG has admitted all of this, so why did they do it?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: so puzzling, no? ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:05PM

Just one more question if you don't mind.

Why did the ICIG lie about never requiring direct, first-hand knowledge of an incident for the matter to be considered urgent and reportable to Congress, when the instructions on the old form, that was used up until two weeks before all of this, had the following text right on the filing instructions?

 
Attachments:
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: questions that I ask ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:38PM

A quick question for a quick answerer.

Now that it has come out that the "whistle blower" coordinated with the staff of Adam Schiff and reached out to his office before even going to the ICIG with this complaint, does that sully the entire complaint?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Pc retardzz ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:42PM

questions that I ask Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A quick question for a quick answerer.
>
> Now that it has come out that the "whistle blower"
> coordinated with the staff of Adam Schiff and
> reached out to his office before even going to the
> ICIG with this complaint, does that sully the
> entire complaint?


The fruit of a poisoned tree?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: poliana ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:43PM

Bernie's dying Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Trump scientist Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I too, have noticed a lack of answers to
> important
> > questions that the liberal media and koolaid
> > drinking never-trumpers avoid answering.
> Anyone?
> >
> > If you are driving in a car at the speed of
> light
> > and turn on your headlights, would the
> headlights
> > work? Would they illuminate objects in your
> > path?
> >
> > Who is buried in Grant’s tomb?
> >
> > What is the real meaning of Euler’s Identity?
>
> > e^i(pi)-1=0
> >
> > Is your refrigerator running?
> >
> > There are at least a hundred more of these
> > questions being asked by many people everyday,
> but
> > no one seems to answer them. Why?
>
>
> So, still no answers then? That's OK, I have
> more.


First, there is really no such thing as the Deep State, if there were, we would have had Trump's tax return years ago.

Now I have a couple of questions


How can a "phone call" be "perfect" and "Beautiful?"
Were the buttons pressed with fine finesse?


Why do they call it "rush hour" when everything moves so slow?

M favorite Trump tweet
Attachments:
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Everything you know is wrong ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:47PM

poliana Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bernie's dying Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Trump scientist Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I too, have noticed a lack of answers to
> > important
> > > questions that the liberal media and koolaid
> > > drinking never-trumpers avoid answering.
> > Anyone?
> > >
> > > If you are driving in a car at the speed of
> > light
> > > and turn on your headlights, would the
> > headlights
> > > work? Would they illuminate objects in your
> > > path?
> > >
> > > Who is buried in Grant’s tomb?
> > >
> > > What is the real meaning of Euler’s
> Identity?
> >
> > > e^i(pi)-1=0
> > >
> > > Is your refrigerator running?
> > >
> > > There are at least a hundred more of these
> > > questions being asked by many people
> everyday,
> > but
> > > no one seems to answer them. Why?
> >
> >
> > So, still no answers then? That's OK, I have
> > more.
>
>
> First, there is really no such thing as the Deep
> State, if there were, we would have had Trump's
> tax return years ago.
>
> Now I have a couple of questions
>
>
> How can a "phone call" be "perfect" and
> "Beautiful?"
> Were the buttons pressed with fine finesse?
>
>
> Why do they call it "rush hour" when everything
> moves so slow?
>
> M favorite Trump tweet


^ Typical easily fooled libtard.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-fake-tweet/

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: more nothingness ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:49PM

poliana Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bernie's dying Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Trump scientist Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I too, have noticed a lack of answers to
> > important
> > > questions that the liberal media and koolaid
> > > drinking never-trumpers avoid answering.
> > Anyone?
> > >
> > > If you are driving in a car at the speed of
> > light
> > > and turn on your headlights, would the
> > headlights
> > > work? Would they illuminate objects in your
> > > path?
> > >
> > > Who is buried in Grant’s tomb?
> > >
> > > What is the real meaning of Euler’s
> Identity?
> >
> > > e^i(pi)-1=0
> > >
> > > Is your refrigerator running?
> > >
> > > There are at least a hundred more of these
> > > questions being asked by many people
> everyday,
> > but
> > > no one seems to answer them. Why?
> >
> >
> > So, still no answers then? That's OK, I have
> > more.
>
>
> First, there is really no such thing as the Deep
> State, if there were, we would have had Trump's
> tax return years ago.
>
> Now I have a couple of questions
>
>
> How can a "phone call" be "perfect" and
> "Beautiful?"
> Were the buttons pressed with fine finesse?
>
>
> Why do they call it "rush hour" when everything
> moves so slow?
>
> M favorite Trump tweet


More denial then? Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. Anyone else want to have a go at it? Every question posed on Trump and the deep state are based on facts and provable events. Perhaps that is why the deep state apologists here won't answer them.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: magapul gen 3 ()
Date: October 02, 2019 02:59PM

poliana Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> First, there is really no such thing as the Deep
> State, if there were, we would have had Trump's
> tax return years ago.
>
> Now I have a couple of questions
>
>
> How can a "phone call" be "perfect" and
> "Beautiful?"
> Were the buttons pressed with fine finesse?
>
>
> Why do they call it "rush hour" when everything
> moves so slow?
>
> M favorite Trump tweet


First, your Trump tweet is a fake. So you've proven you're easily fooled.

Second, if there is no deep state, then the answer to all the questions is that they are just merely coincidences and harmless mistakes and that there really isn't collusion going on to frame President Trump with one scandal after another that all turn out to be false and based on the same group of players. But I'll keep pointing out these coincidences and harmless mistakes in the form of questions to see if there might be another answer.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: The Trump Dictionary ()
Date: October 02, 2019 03:14PM

Deep State: (1) anyone who questions or challenges Trump (2) an excuse used to conceal one’s poor leadership or bad decision making

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: makes one go hmmmm..... ()
Date: October 03, 2019 03:02PM

Perhaps someone here can answer this simple question. You're all peachy.

Why did Rod Rosenstein write a memo to President Donald J. Trump and recommend that he fire then FBI-director James Comey and then, less that two weeks later, he selected Comey's best friend Robert Mueller to be a special counsel to investigate, among other things, Trump possibly obstructing justice for firing James Comey?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Orange man bad ()
Date: October 03, 2019 03:43PM

A quick question with an obvious answer to those who have a brain.

Why won't Nancy Pelosi call for a vote on starting an impeachment inquiry as has been done for both Nixon and Clinton and instead is calling the work of 6 different committees doing oversight "an impeachment inquiry" and allowing them to demand the waiving of executive privilege by Trump or he will be considered obstructing justice? What the actual fuck. How can any sane person think this is OK?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: asking for a friend ()
Date: October 03, 2019 04:15PM

Hoping one of you rabid anti-Trumpers here answer this question.

why are you more concerned and batshit crazy about Trump asking Ukraine to look into why the investigation was shelved instead of the fact that Biden threatened to withhold $1.2 billion in US aid if the prosecutor who was investigating his son's company was fired within 6 hours?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Your government for sale ()
Date: October 04, 2019 07:16AM

A couple of things that has most of us pondering for an answer or two.

Why did Nancy Pelosi's son, who was on the board of Viscoil Oil, go to Ukraine in 2017 to meet with the government there on securing funding for his energy company?

Why did Nancy give the keynote speech at the company's conference in Washington DC in 2013?

Why does Ukraine, a well-known center of corruption, money-laudering and gateway to Russian oligarchs and Putin, have so many ties to democrats and their kids?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Never been done before ()
Date: October 04, 2019 08:03AM

Just curious about one thing and maybe one of you could clear it up.

Why won't Adam Schiff give the GOP members of the House Intel Committee any subpoena power and instead keep all that power limited to the democrats on the committee? That doesn't seem like he's searching for anything other than bullshit.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: easy one for you pansies ()
Date: October 04, 2019 11:03AM

A question that even you TDS morons can answer.

Wouldn't it be better for the FBI and CIA to just admit that they fucked up and tried to take out Trump rather than continue to look like traitorous political hacks in a drip-drip-drip manner? They could blame it all on Comey, McCabe, Brennan and Clapper. If they had done that, we'd have thrown those traitors in jail for 5 or 6 years and moved on. Now, it's all going to come out as a result of 3 investigations and take down the minions and leaders as well.

Poorly played deep state. You're inability to sacrifice a few lieutenants and colonels is going to end up decimating your entire little cabal and taking out a few of your upper echelon puppet masters.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: is there a press left in the US ()
Date: October 04, 2019 11:27AM

I wonder what the answer is to this simple question.

Why was it OK for the media and Obama administration to investigate Donald Trump when he was the republican nominee in 2016, looking for evidence of corruption and collusion with foreign governments, but Joe Biden is off limits to any scrutiny by the media and the Trump administration for corruption and collusion with foreign governments?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: We export gas and oil to them ()
Date: October 04, 2019 12:17PM

Perhaps some research might uncover the answer to this question.

Why are the kids of prominent democrats doing energy (gas and oil) deals with Ukrainian oligarchs when Ukraine has almost no natural gas or oil industry?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the ffu inquirerer ()
Date: October 04, 2019 05:24PM

A Friday night question looking for an answer for a date.

Now that we know Adam Schiff lied about meeting with the 'whistle blower' prior to even filing the complaint, and now that we know that the 'whistle blower' did not tell the ICIG that he was coordinating with Adam Schiff's office when he filed the complaint, can any sane, rational person not conclude that this is nothing more than a political hit job by an incompetent and desperate trifecta of loserdom that is the democrats, the CIA and the media?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Many questions, but no answers ()
Date: October 04, 2019 05:29PM

This question comes to mind. Perhaps someone can answer it.

Why is it OK for any democrat who is running for president to call for an investigation of President Trump? Isn't that colluding against your political opponent?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: more lies ()
Date: October 04, 2019 06:10PM

Why did the 'whistle blower' lie on the complaint form? He did not check that he had disclosed the complaint to anyone else and he did not check the box that he had talked to Congress. That's perjury. The ICIG said he never looked into this because the 'whistle blower' didn't check those boxes or otherwise disclose that he had been working with the office of Adam Schiff.



 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: I have a question ()
Date: October 05, 2019 08:16AM

Why do democrats and the media think Trump supporters are concerned that Trump does shit that no other president has done? That's why we voted for him. Only faggots and corrupt assholes were happy with the status quo.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Does this make any sense ()
Date: October 05, 2019 08:20AM

Perhaps now that some of you have had a week to think about things, you might be able to answer any of the simple questions that have been asked, including this one.

Why does Joe Biden go apeshit crazy when someone asks him about his son's ties to Ukraine and China and scream, "I'm not going to answer that" then immediately tries to tell us that we should instead investigate the guy trying to get to the bottom of all of that apparent corruption?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: heat of the matter ()
Date: October 05, 2019 08:31AM

Question for all of ya.

Does anyone think it's strange that the tiny, impoverished country Ukraine gave more money to the Clinton Foundation between 2009 and 2014 than any other country on this planet?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Protect the circle ()
Date: October 05, 2019 08:36AM

A question S'il Vous Plait.

In 2018, why did 44 former CIA agents run for congress, all as democrats?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: fact checker needed for this one ()
Date: October 05, 2019 09:56AM

If one can dispute this, let us know.

Why is there no record of Hunter Biden ever setting foot in Ukraine? He was making $80K/month serving as a board member of a Ukrainian energy company, so you'd think he might have gone there at least once.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: GFY - Dems ()
Date: October 05, 2019 10:07AM


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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: still no answers ()
Date: October 07, 2019 08:23AM

Do these events concern any libtards here?

In April, 2014 Devon Archer (a long time business partner of Hunter Biden) visits VP Joe Biden at the White House.

5 days later, Biden visits Ukraine as the point man for the administration's Ukrainian policy. Biden is there to discuss several billion dollars in USAID assistance to get the fledging Ukrainian NG and oil industry up and running.

1 day after Biden meets with Ukrainian officials, Devon Archer is named to the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian NG company.

3 weeks after Biden's trip to Ukraine, Hunter Biden is named to the board of Burisma. Neither Archer of Hunter Biden have any experience in the energy industry.

Less than 2 years later, a Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Burisma for corruption and money-laundering by Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs. Biden visits Ukraine again in March 2016 and demands that the Ukrainian government fire the prosecutor or future US aid (both economic and military) would be withheld. The prosecutor is relieved within 3 hours and suspended from his job. He is later fired 2 months later.

All of the above are facts with logs and contemporaneous stories in the news about visits and travel.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: since the dawn of history ()
Date: October 07, 2019 08:32AM

Criminals have always demanded to go unpunished because of the actions of other people, and claim they’re the ones being victimized, or that their actions are somehow justified by what others have done.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: dem corruption must not be known ()
Date: October 07, 2019 08:36AM

Why did libtards think it was great to look into 2016 for 3 years, getting a special counsel who had unlimited authority to do as he pleased to investigate Trump but now that Trump is looking into what happened in 2016, the libtards are going bonkers?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the more you know ()
Date: October 07, 2019 09:56AM

Do any of you libtards have a problem with the fact that one partisan, leftist lawyer is representing both whistle blowers/leakers and that he set up a web site one month after Trump was sworn in as president, Whistleblower Aid, a website that encourages people to help "fight the threats to the republic" by leaking any perceived slights by the new administration and that it is partly funded by Soros' Open Society and that the co-founder used to work for SPLC?

Any of you libtards still want to lie that this is anything other than a lame political hit job on Trump?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: air leaking from the balloon ()
Date: October 07, 2019 10:20AM

Are any libtards here concerned that the ICIG, after finally testifying under oath (had to tell the truth), admitted that the changes to the ICIG whistle blower complaint form was actually changed in early September to allow 2nd hand information to be used for 'credible and urgent' complaints after telling the public for 2 weeks that it was done in early August?

Of course, the first complaint could not be considered 'credible and urgent' because the form used in August required first hand knowledge. So they changed the form and used the exact same complaint language.

Gee, why would anyone think there is any corruption in this whole cart full of bullshit?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Cuckoo Rudy ()
Date: October 07, 2019 10:40AM

All you’re doing is gaslighting with these dumb questions. Anybody who’s critical of Trump would be labeled as “partisan/leftist”. They called John Bolton “a leftist” just last month. John Bolton. And of course the whole world is conspiring against an Eagle Scout like Trump, and working with Soros, the Clintons, the Illuminati, etc. When you’re a narcissist, everybody else is wrong and plotting against you 24/7. So of course we’re all shocked that these whistleblowers didn’t go out and sign Giuliani up as their lawyer.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: who are the one's getting played ()
Date: October 07, 2019 10:59AM

Cuckoo Rudy Wrote:
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> All you’re doing is gaslighting with these dumb
> questions. Anybody who’s critical of Trump
> would be labeled as “partisan/leftist”. They
> called John Bolton “a leftist” just last
> month. John Bolton. And of course the whole
> world is conspiring against an Eagle Scout like
> Trump, and working with Soros, the Clintons, the
> Illuminati, etc. When you’re a narcissist,
> everybody else is wrong and plotting against you
> 24/7. So of course we’re all shocked that these
> whistleblowers didn’t go out and sign Giuliani
> up as their lawyer.


No one called Bolton a leftist. He's been called a globalist and a war-mongering neo-con. That is what he is. Sorry, no cigar for you. But at least you tried to spin this, which is more than any other libtard has done.

To a libtard, every meeting any Trump has ever had is a conspiracy but every meeting that a democrat has is just harmless coincidences. That's what brought us the Russian Collusion Hoax and 2½ years of lies and bullshit. You idiots bought into the biggest political gaslighting in history and still can't admit you're being played every day.

All these questions lead any thinking person to the conclusion that there is a thing called the deep state, that the media is corrupt as hell and that our intelligence and federal law enforcement agencies are trying to decide who gets to be our president. Fuck that.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: CIA Kabuki Theatre ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:23PM

who are the one's getting played Wrote:
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> Cuckoo Rudy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All you’re doing is gaslighting with these
> dumb
> > questions. Anybody who’s critical of Trump
> > would be labeled as “partisan/leftist”.
> They
> > called John Bolton “a leftist” just last
> > month. John Bolton. And of course the whole
> > world is conspiring against an Eagle Scout like
> > Trump, and working with Soros, the Clintons,
> the
> > Illuminati, etc. When you’re a narcissist,
> > everybody else is wrong and plotting against
> you
> > 24/7. So of course we’re all shocked that
> these
> > whistleblowers didn’t go out and sign
> Giuliani
> > up as their lawyer.
>
>
> No one called Bolton a leftist. He's been called
> a globalist and a war-mongering neo-con. That is
> what he is. Sorry, no cigar for you. But at
> least you tried to spin this, which is more than
> any other libtard has done.
>
> To a libtard, every meeting any Trump has ever had
> is a conspiracy but every meeting that a democrat
> has is just harmless coincidences. That's what
> brought us the Russian Collusion Hoax and 2½
> years of lies and bullshit. You idiots bought
> into the biggest political gaslighting in history
> and still can't admit you're being played every
> day.
>
> All these questions lead any thinking person to
> the conclusion that there is a thing called the
> deep state, that the media is corrupt as hell and
> that our intelligence and federal law enforcement
> agencies are trying to decide who gets to be our
> president. Fuck that.


Ahhh John Bolton. The neocon puppet that plays the 'hard-right world sheriff' in the globalist kabuki theatre. He's even got the mustache to prove it!


When Trump fired Bolton, the neocons knew Trump wasn't buying tickets to their play anymore even if the paid seats went empty. Hence operation 'whistleblower'

It's funny watching these pathetic CIA clowns and their hairbrained hijinks. Next thing you know they'll be sending Trump an exploding cigar.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Derick ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:26PM

Trump and his flowers are asses

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Orange man bad ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:37PM

Derick Wrote:
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> Trump and his flowers are asses


These pretty Trump flowers can be found at his golf course in Loudoun County. Very nice, not asses.


 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: let's stack the deck some more ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:41PM

Why do democrats feel that Trump not cooperating with an attempt to impeach him is reason for impeachment? That's some fucked up circular logic don't ya know.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: fox fact checker ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:42PM

who are the one's getting played Wrote:
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> No one called Bolton a leftist.


The day Bolton was fired Tucker Carlson called him “a man of the left” and a progressive.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: chesty ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:46PM

What the hell happened to the CIA and FBI? They used to be able to keep a lid on their illegal activities and corrupt power-brokering. Now, it's all out in the open. All this has done is create a lack of trust between the people and these agencies. Who believes them anymore? I no longer have any confidence in anything that they say or report. Was that the goal of this whole thing - to destroy our trust in the pillars of our intelligence and law enforcement?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: they, he, them, you ()
Date: October 07, 2019 02:48PM

fox fact checker Wrote:
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> who are the one's getting played Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > No one called Bolton a leftist.
>
>
> The day Bolton was fired Tucker Carlson called him
> “a man of the left” and a progressive.


So 'they' is one guy then?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: We know ()
Date: October 07, 2019 03:00PM

chesty Wrote:
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> What the hell happened to the CIA and FBI? They
> used to be able to keep a lid on their illegal
> activities and corrupt power-brokering. Now, it's
> all out in the open. All this has done is create
> a lack of trust between the people and these
> agencies. Who believes them anymore? I no longer
> have any confidence in anything that they say or
> report. Was that the goal of this whole thing -
> to destroy our trust in the pillars of our
> intelligence and law enforcement?

What happened is that the neocons infiltrated and schemed themselves to power under a fake 'republican/conservative' banner. They were never American patriots or real conservatives. Pat Buchannan warned us about these people. We know what happened to him...marginalized under one of their newspeak 'categories'

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: things that make one go hmmm.... ()
Date: October 09, 2019 07:30AM

Hmmmmm....

Now that the ICIG has said under oath that the "whistle blower" admitted to a working relationship with a current democrat presidential candidate, does anyone still believe him? Anyone? Bueller?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: n7k7y ()
Date: October 09, 2019 07:37AM

If that's true, they should be perp walked and see significant jail time.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: things that make one smh.... ()
Date: October 09, 2019 08:00AM

smh....

Now that we have found out that Ukraine reopened their investigation into Burisma and Hunter Biden in late February, 4 months BEFORE Trump's phone call to Zelensky, is this whole thing really just a feeble democrat set up?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: things that make one say wow.... ()
Date: October 09, 2019 08:13AM

Wow....

Now that we know Robert Mueller lied in his testimony before Congress and that he was, in fact, interviewed for the FBI director's job (and rejected) the day before being named special counsel, does anyone still think the Russian Collusion investigation was anything more than a silly, partisan witch-hunt by the swamp?

And now that we know that Rosenstein had conversations with Mueller 4 days before the job interview with Trump about possibly being named special counsel, is this just another improbable coincidence that happens to occur with the same 5 or 6 people all the time when it comes to investigating Trump and protecting Hillary Clinton?

All this came out yesterday in emails that Judicial Watch had to sue to get.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the truth is out there somewhere ()
Date: October 09, 2019 08:39AM

Does anyone know the answer to the question below...

Why did Nancy Pelosi change the rules of the House regarding impeached on August 12th, the same day that Schiff received the 'whistle blower' complaint from the ICIG to allow multiple committees to begin impeachment inquiries without any formal vote, which had never been done before? Is this just another one of those weird coincidences?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Tracking Traitors ()
Date: October 09, 2019 09:14AM

the truth is out there somewhere Wrote:
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> Does anyone know the answer to the question
> below...
>
> Why did Nancy Pelosi change the rules of the House
> regarding impeached on August 12th, the same day
> that Schiff received the 'whistle blower'
> complaint from the ICIG to allow multiple
> committees to begin impeachment inquiries without
> any formal vote, which had never been done before?
> Is this just another one of those weird
> coincidences?

Keep up the good work, Friend. American patriots are watching this thread.

Do you think the bush/clinton/obama state dept, CIA or FBI traitors are watching?


If so, Do you think that deep down in their pathetically weak and traitorous minds, that they are starting to question their juxtaposition of globalism on American patriotism?


They are sowing the seeds of civil war, and they don't care. They will come to care.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Always the same names pop up ()
Date: October 10, 2019 02:51PM

If Micheal Atkinson, the ICIG, was the chief counsel to former FBI National Security Chief John Carlin, who was then FBI-director Robert Mueller's Chief of Staff, while the FBI was conducting their investigation into the Russian Collusion hoax, the status of which Carlin was being briefed on twice a week, does that cast any doubt into the fairness of Atkinson? Just asking for a friend.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the questions just keep coming ()
Date: October 11, 2019 07:36AM

Now that we know the 'whistle blower' worked as a CIA analyst in the White House during Biden's time there as VP and the ICIG admitted that the 'whistle blower' had a working relationship with one of the democrat presidential candidates and that means it had to be with Joe Biden since that is where the analyst worked for the past 7 years supporting the National Security Council (located in the White House), does anyone still not know this guy is just a political hack trying to save his own ass since he worked with Biden during the whole Ukrainian shake down?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: The Question Mark ()
Date: October 11, 2019 04:10PM

Since we now know that at least two of Adam Schiff's aides used to work with the 'whistle blower' while at the White House working with Joe Biden, can anyone still be stupid enough to not see what a crappy 2nd-rate political hit-job this all is now?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: more deep state collusion ()
Date: October 12, 2019 07:55AM

Is it weird that the attorney representing the two 'whistle blowers' is himself a former CIA 'whistle blower' who derailed Christopher Sharpley, the person Trump nominated as the ICIG, by going public with unprovable accusations when he couldn't get the Senate Intel Committee to hold up the nomination by hiding behind anonymity and that this same attorney has a previous close working relationship with Hillary Clinton?

Isn't it also weird that Trump had to settle for Michael Atkinson, a 'consensus' choice and a career DOJ official, who served as Asst. US Attorney for DC under the Obama admin, defending the actions of the administration in the two most powerful federal courts in the nation before moving to the DOJ's National Security Division after Trump won in late 2016?

Does it strike anyone as odd that the priority for Atkinson has been to revive the communities 'whistle blower' program, that had been considered dormant for the previous 8 years while Obama was in office?

All of this is true and easily verified by simple duckduckgo'ing it.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: triad of evil (dems/press/intel) ()
Date: October 12, 2019 11:31AM

Now that we have found out the following about the recent Fox News poll:

It oversampled democrats v republicans by 14 points (48% to 34%)
It undersampled independents by 30 points (9% vs 39%)
The director of the poll is a former Hillary 2016 organizing director from PA

is there any doubt that there is collusion between the media and the democrat party in trying to cook up a fake scandal to get Trump out of the way before all the investigations into the Obama/Clinton/Biden corruption comes out?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the deafening sound of crickets ()
Date: October 13, 2019 07:53AM

So now that we know Maria Yovanovich, the former Obama administration's Ukrainian ambassador, had a "do not prosecute" list that she gave to the former Ukrainian Chief Prosecutor, with names of Ukrainian citizens that the US government did not want investigated or prosecuted, and threatened US aid if the list was not adhered to, does anyone think she's a credible source of anything other than the corruption of the Obama administration, especially Joe Biden, who was leading the administration's Ukrainian engagement?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: lunch bucket Joe ()
Date: October 13, 2019 11:14AM

As it has now come out that the 'whistle blower' is almost certainly Eric Ciaramella, a CIA official who traveled with Biden during his trips to Ukraine when he was VP and is up to his neck in Biden's dealings with the Ukrainian leadership during that time, is anyone retarded enough to still believe this is nothing other than a failing, cover-our-asses attempt to put up enough bullshit to soften the landing of upcoming justice against the Bidens and their enablers who were using Ukraine as their own private piggy bank?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: unraveling ()
Date: October 14, 2019 10:18AM

With the latest news of an about face from Adam Schiff, retracting the need to get testimony from the 'whistle blower' (aka democrat CIA shill Eric Ciaramella) and now tells us that his testimony is not 'that important' to hear, are any of my fellow undergrounders brain-dead enough to not see what a silly partisan scam this is and that it's all been cooked up to confuse the ignorant?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: I heard ()
Date: October 14, 2019 11:06AM

This Eric dude was also a "beach buddy' of Dr Liecunt B Ford. LOLZ!

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: No way? ()
Date: October 14, 2019 11:36AM

I heard Wrote:
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> This Eric dude was also a "beach buddy' of Dr
> Liecunt B Ford. LOLZ!

Got link?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: Eric Ciaramella is in hiding ()
Date: October 14, 2019 12:20PM

Eric Ciaramella has claimed at least twice before that he was receiving death threats. Two times while at the NSC, he claimed that he had received them and that led to his returning to his home agency (CIA). Can this guy ever tell the truth?

And why did Ciaramella's attorney threaten on twitter to use his intelligence and law enforcement sources to dox anyone who brings attention to all this?

https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/10/anti-trump-whistleblower-attorney-threatened-to-dox-anonymous-twitter-account/

 
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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: so many questions but no answers ()
Date: October 16, 2019 07:38AM

Why did then-ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, an Obama-appointed to Ukraine, send a request to the State Department to use departmental resources to monitor several US citizens, all involved one way or the other, in investigating Joe Biden's potential corruption in that country?

Why were the terms she wanted monitored include her own name, George Soros, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Giuliani, and Burisma?

She was told that using departmental resources to conduct such monitoring was illegal in the communications sent between the department and the Ukrainian embassy using top-secret communications channels.

And she made these requests as Rudy Giuliani was working with Ukranian officials to determine the extent of that country's involvement in the 2016 election as part of the defense of the Mueller investigation.

And why didn't the Mueller investigators ever talk to anyone in the Ukraine about what Giuliani was investigating?

All questions in search of answers.

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: tangled web ()
Date: October 18, 2019 07:57AM

Now that we know Adam Schiff's staff went to Ukraine in August, after talking with the 'whistle blower' and they met with Bill Taylor, the acting ambassador, and that the trip was to attend an event paid for by the Atlantic Council, and that one of the major contributors to the Atlantic Council is Burisma, the company Hunter Biden was given over $50K a month to attend 1 meeting a year (never in Ukraine for some reason), and soon after that meeting with Bill Taylor, Taylor sent his infamous IM to the new Ukrainian ambassador Kurt Volker and that Bill Taylor was just a leftover senior staffer from Obama-appointed Marie Yovanovitch and was her charge d'affaires, does anyone not see how this all just a silly, incompetent political hit job?

And now that is has come to light that Bill Taylor had a close working relationship with the Atlantic Council, being paid for writing papers and giving speeches at their events through his job at the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council, which funnels money and influence in Ukraine from and to US business interests, does anyone believe this entire impeachment nonsense is more than just "orange man bad" bullshit?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: the whistleblower ()
Date: October 18, 2019 08:14AM

tangled web Wrote:
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> Now that we know Adam Schiff's staff went to
> Ukraine in August, after talking with the 'whistle blower' and


Igor Fruman?

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Re: A couple of questions about Trump and the "Deep State"
Posted by: an unprecedented attack on Trump ()
Date: October 18, 2019 08:51AM

the whistleblower Wrote:
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> tangled web Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Now that we know Adam Schiff's staff went to
> > Ukraine in August, after talking with the
> 'whistle blower' and
>
>
> Igor Fruman?

Yeah Igor Fruman and that other asshole are the whistleblowers and they actually work for Joe Biden and Adam Schiff. It’s all a big-set up to make Trump and Giuliani appear dishonest!

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