Just for laughs Wrote:
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> Just for shitz and giggles Wrote:
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> > Just for laughs Wrote:
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> > > Sure even Vladimir hated Hillary Wrote:
> > >
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> > > > So what? Wrote:
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> > > > > Don’t be hypocrites. Russia helped
> trump
> > in
> > > > > 2016. Our intelligence backed that up, so
> > did
> > > > > mueller report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dude, the whole Russian collusion story is
> a
> > > dry
> > > > well. Russia tries to affect every US
> > election
> > > > and has for decades. So is China. Their
> > goal
> > > is
> > > > to foster discord to weaken the US from
> > within
> > > > (obviously working).
> > > >
> > > > Russia also helped Hillary, indirectly
> giving
> > > her
> > > > campaign dirt on Trump (almost all of it
> > > totally
> > > > fabricated) routed through a British
> ex-spy.
> > > >
> > > > Putin didn't really care who won - he just
> > > wanted
> > > > to fuck with us. Douche bags like you
> can't
> > > see
> > > > the truth. You are the problem with this
> > > country.
> > > > Move on shithead.
> > >
> > > Let's assume you are right about all of that.
>
> > Do
> > > you find it an acceptable state of affairs?
> > >
> > > I consider all of what you say to be just as
> > bad
> > > as illegals voting. Not that Trump has done
> a
> > > damn thing about that, either.
> >
> > Better question: do YOU find it an acceptable
> > state of affairs that you would have sat on
> your
> > hands if had Hillary won?
> >
> > Also: do you consider it acceptable that we,
> the
> > U.S. has a long history of intervening in
> > elections?
> >
> > Also: do you consider the shenanigans WRT
> Hillary
> > displacing Bernie through super delegates
> > acceptable?
> >
> > Also: do you have some formula that tells you
> how
> > much the "intervention" in our election changed
> > numbers, or would Trump have won either way?
> >
> > Also: why do you complain EVERY FUCKING TIME
> you
> > lose an election? I can't remember any amount
> near
> > the whining when Obama won, but when GWB won
> > against Gore, same fucking tune including
> > attempting to have SCOTUS intervene. Do you
> ever
> > accept the results when you lose, or do you
> wanna
> > trophy every fucking election?
>
> A lot to unpack here. Lets give it a try:
>
> 1. Regarding Hillary winning: Hillary did not
> "win", so you are asking me (somewhat
> incoherently) about something that did not happen.
> It is therefore an essentially irrelevant
> question. But had I seen evidence of her
> criminality of the quality that was contained in
> the Mueller report about Trump, I would have
> wanted her gone. That type of evidence, to date,
> has not yet surfaced about her, although I
> understand you guys are still "investigating", and
> I suspect she is in fact guilty of something.
> Best answer I can give
>
> 2. No, I do not consider it acceptable that the
> US has a long history of fucking around in other
> peoples elections, although for different reasons
> than it pisses me off that others are dicking
> around with ours. I fully admit that it pisses me
> off more that foreigners fuck with us than we fuck
> with them. American elections are just more
> important to this American.
>
> 3. I am making the assumption from the nature of
> your post that you are not a Dem. With that in
> mind, the answer to your question regarding Bernie
> is that it is none of your fucking business. Dems
> will work that out amongst themselves. If you are
> a Dem, please let me know and I will answer your
> question more fully.
>
> 4. I don't have a magic formula to tell if the
> Russian interference, that was designed to benefit
> Trump, was successful. Don't have one that says
> it wasn't. And that is the problem. We are a
> horribly divided country, an even a relative
> handful of votes can have an outsized impact.
> Trump is, at a minimum, an incompetent asshole,
> but I would rather have a Republican President
> Trump who was elected by Americans than a Democrat
> President (fill in the blank) who was elected with
> foreign "assistance". I hope you, as a presumably
> American citizen, would feel the same about the
> opposite, that you would want a Democrat elected
> by Americans rather than a Republican elected with
> foreign help. But I don't know you well enough to
> evaluate your patriotism and love of country, and
> if I am wrong about you, I certainly hope you do
> not represent Trump supporters as a whole.
>
> 5. Which brings us to your question about the
> left complaining about election results. When a
> Republican actually gets more votes than the
> Democrat, the Democrats do not generally contest
> the results (see, for example 1968, 1972, 1980,
> 1984, 1988 and 2004.) But in elections where the
> Dems actually got more votes, there are concerns,
> such as that the Republican were suppressing votes
> (Florida 2000) or conspiring with a foreign
> government (2016). The Dems may well be wrong (an
> example would probably be Florida on 2000, I don't
> think if they had actually counted the votes it
> would have made a difference), but I don't think
> it is unreasonable for Dems to want to confirm
> that the election results, especially under those
> circumstances, are untainted. I can only imagine
> how much the right would squeal if the roles were
> reversed. Please keep in mind that the left no
> more trusts the right in this country than the
> right trusts the left. We believe that you guys
> cheat. We may be wrong, but the right has done
> absolutely nothing in this century that would give
> the left reason to trust.
>
> So, while your post is basically nothing more than
> a deflection from the issues I have raised, I have
> tried to answer your questions. Now, how about
> mine. Do you consider it acceptable that
> foreigners are dicking around with our elections?
> Yes or No. If you consider it acceptable, I can't
> help you, and if you are in any way representative
> of the right in that sense America is in a lot
> bigger trouble than even I would have imagined.
> If you consider it unacceptable, I apologize if I
> have insulted you in anyway, but I would have one
> further question. What has Mr. Trump, who has been
> President of the US the last 2 1/2 years, done
> about it? He took an oath, but I see no evidence
> he takes it seriously
>
> One more note to the other Trump supporters on
> this board. This guy is a bit unhinged, but at
> least he is trying. I suspect that, if he had a
> gun to his head, he would admit that he feels it
> is Ok for foreigners to dick with our elections as
> long as they do it on the right side. Is this
> representative of Trump supporters as a whole?
> Just curious.
1) No, it is a relevant question because it goes to the state of your mind and motive. Would you voice concern had Hillary won or is this really about Donald Trump rather than election "meddling" not going your way?
2) "I fully admit that it pisses me off more that foreigners fuck with us than we fuck with them. American elections are just more important to this American". All you're telling me is that you're a creature of hypocritical convenience. Sorry your gal lost, but really, she did it by being an unlikable shithead.
"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic – Islamophobic – you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America. " - some fucking Arkansas cunt.
3) "Bernie is that it is none of your fucking business. Dems will work that out amongst themselves. " Cock gobblers like you always show their stripes. With you, the ends justify the means. The democratic party is very undemocratic and you know it. And you're god-damned right, I'm not a democrat. I would never be one to begin with.
4) Yes, you don't have a formula. Yes, we're horribly divided. Blame yourselves for pushing idiotic identity politics for thirty plus years and people said fuck it, had enough. FBHO. And a BIGGER WTF... when are you going to hold the three democrat morons in Virginia accountable for their actions in blackface or dressing up in KKK garb and raping people? Still in office, shithead.
5) See the electoral college. Don't like it, too fucking bad. Change the Constitution. And don't lecture ANYONE on foreign help in elections or cheating. You assholes
literally generate ballots out of thin air again and again and never get called on it.
SOURCE:
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/deplorables-look-at-all-the-bigots-who-are-funding-hillary
SOURCE:
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=58189