Re: Stuff
From: Conie
To:
Gonads & Strife
Date: 02/26/2010 03:32PM

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Conie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are YOU the real Eli?
>
>
> I'm afraid not. Keep the faith.
>
> ~ Not Eli

I know you're Eli.


I'm not Eli...really. Anybody care to shed some light on this?

I've received similar PMs... and, apparently, bloody blisters has too...

I've received similar PMs...and, apparently, Alias has too...

normally i would pretend to be that person. but this time i knew i was dealing with poor lonely woman who just wants to find her eli. i told her many of times that i was not him yet i still have a sneaking suspicion that she still thinks im him. she asked for my birth date. i told her i was a cancer, she said no you're not you were born in august. i laughed. a great time was had by all. i feel rather upset that im not the only one thought to be eli, i thought i was special.

Is "Conie" really Colleen? ...God help us all...

I think Cary banned both of them, they were flooding the forum and then it stopped suddenly.

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Is "Conie" really Colleen? ...God help us all...


Hopefully Colleen went away with wbva3fan.

thats not nice, just because someone doesnt understand the concept of a forum doesnt mean they are a bad person. con(n)ie is actually a nice person, slightly psychotic, but very nice.

Whatever happened to your special someone? Did he finally go away or are you still getting PMs?

once he found out i was a dude, he booked it. i asked him if he still wanted to meet up, he said hell no! hahaha it is fun fucking with people

The guy was obviously desperate. Next time this happens, give the guy the stoner chick pic I sent you.

done and done.

bloody blisters Wrote:
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> normally i would pretend to be that person. but
> this time i knew i was dealing with poor lonely
> woman who just wants to find her eli. i told her
> many of times that i was not him yet i still have
> a sneaking suspicion that she still thinks im him.
> she asked for my birth date. i told her i was a
> cancer, she said no you're not you were born in
> august. i laughed. a great time was had by all. i
> feel rather upset that im not the only one thought
> to be eli, i thought i was special.

My problem is that I was born in August and I made the mistake of telling her.

I think she's a lesbian.

This is not the first time lesbians have come after me.

Alias Wrote:
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>
> This is not the first time lesbians have come
> after me.


It sounds like you get all the aggressive ones. They can tell you are the lady in the relationship. My guess is you get a lot of women UPS drivers and police officers hitting on you. lol

Alias Wrote:
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>
> My problem is that I was born in August and I made
> the mistake of telling her.
>


yeah i wanted to give her the least amount of information possible. i didnt tell her exactly what month i was born in, or any other details. i dont think mentally unstable people can handle the responsibility of that information. she is a nice person though.


> This is not the first time lesbians have come
> after me.

i thought we werent going to talk about that.

eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > This is not the first time lesbians have come
> > after me.

> It sounds like you get all the aggressive ones.

Actually, I don't even realize they're hitting on me until they try to kiss me, or... whatever.

> My guess is you get a lot of women
> UPS drivers and police officers hitting on you. lol

No.. not really. I was the one who hit on the UPS driver, who was male, by the way. lol

And, cops don't hit on me; they just don't give me tickets.

Alias Wrote:
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>
> And, cops don't hit on me; they just don't give me
> tickets.


Oh yeah, I got 15 days suspension for my last offense. He was going to just give me a $100 fine, but he changed his mind after he saw my record. :-(

Too bad I wasn't in the car with you when you got pulled over.

Truth is, you wouldn't have been driving like a maniac, had I been in the car with you.

i dont know, hummers are dangerous

Alias Wrote:
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>
> Truth is, you wouldn't have been driving like a
> maniac, had I been in the car with you.
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eesh Wrote:
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> Alias Wrote:
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> -----
>
> >
> > Truth is, you wouldn't have been driving like a
> > maniac, had I been in the car with you.

Ha! If it helps you slow down, then go ahead and picture me like that.

Never seen a female UPS driver.

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> Never seen a female UPS driver.


They look just like the guys...easy to confuse. You probably couldn't tell even by talking to one.

lolllll

Bulldykes, huh?

You tell me
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Well.

It has pretty........ blue eyes.


Oh forget it,.dslkfhsdkhgfkjdhgfdsgh

How many packs of Pall Malls do you think that thing smokes a day?

Fuck the cigs, look at the udders at her waist!

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> Fuck the cigs, look at the udders at her waist!


I was thinking that if "she" turned "her" shirt inside out that the pockets would make a great built-in bra. No?

Those pockets would be crying, sobbing for halp!

You're right...best to let gravity take its natural toll. It is the law, afterall..

I always thought it was funny when a celeb would be so bullish and I'd be like, "that broad has GOT to be a dyke." And then they announce at some point later on that they are in fact, minge munchers

Case(s) in point: Chastity Bono and Melissa Ethridge.

Fucking Insane
From: Conie
To:
Eli
Date: 02/24/2010 08:38PM

So...I didn't send it to Gonads and Strife cuz I'm not sure that's you (Eli)
Is this the Eli I want to talk to?



Re: Fucking Insane
From: Conie
To:
Eli
Date: 02/25/2010 11:38AM

Eli Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Conie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So...I didn't send it to Gonads and Strife cuz
> I'm
> > not sure that's you (Eli)
> > Is this the Eli I want to talk to?
>
>
> Yes this is Eli.

I got way out of control and I'm sorry.
I don't blame you if you just want to possibly murder me
The shit that kept coming out about that night was so humiliating
to me you don't even know.I felt insanely mad..obviously.I wanted you to pay.
I've never been as mean to anyone in my life as I've been to you.
Noone deserves that.I'm totally ashamed of the way I behaved. I'm sitting here
sobbing.
I don't know what else to say. I'm sorry


Re: Fucking Insane
From: Conie
To:
Eli
Date: 02/25/2010 12:20PM

Eli Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Conie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So...I didn't send it to Gonads and Strife cuz
> I'm
> > not sure that's you (Eli)
> > Is this the Eli I want to talk to?
>
>
> Yes this is Eli.
I guess I should have asked..Is this Eli K. who I met in Maryland ?.
This site breeds paranoia. I may have just spilled my guts to a poser.


Drama queen
From: Conie
To:
Eli
Date: 02/25/2010 10:59PM

I guess I don't blame you if you don't want to speak to me,
but can you just tell me you believe that I'm being sincere?



.

Let's take a poll.


Sincere or insincere that is the question.

gay

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> gay


HAHAHA

More pics!

Eli Wrote:
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> Let's take a poll.
>
>
> Sincere or insincere that is the question.

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FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: FOX5 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:33PM


There will be no School Wed. March 3 for the Fairax County Public School system due to the forecast of 9" of snowfall overnight tonight through tomorrow. Stay tuned for more details.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: stfu ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:44PM


Stop it with these fucking threads.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:46PM


Schools have been closed in the following counties:

In Virginia:

Accomack County, Albemarle County, Alleghany County, Amelia County, Amherst County, Appomattox County, Arlington County, Augusta County, Bath County, Bedford County, Bland County, Botetourt County, Brunswick County, Buchanan County
Buckingham County, Campbell County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Charles City County, Charlotte County, Chesterfield County, Clarke County, Craig County, Culpeper County, Cumberland County, Dickenson County, Dinwiddie County, Essex County, Fairfax County, Fauquier County, Floyd County, Fluvanna County, Franklin County, and Frederick County

In Maryland:

Allegany County, Anne Arundel County, Baltimore city, Baltimore County, Calvert County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Cecil County, Charles County, Dorchester County, Frederick County, Garrett County, Harford County, Howard County, Kent County, Montgomery County, Prince George's County, Queen Anne's County, Somerset County, St. Mary's County, Talbot County, Washington County, Wicomico County, and Worcester County


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:25PM


I just saw the announcement on Red Asshole 69.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: g-z? ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:44PM


Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: ABC123 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:46PM


g-z? Wrote:
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> Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all
> counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....

+1

The first alphabetical storm of the season.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:44PM


This just in...

g-z? Wrote:
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> The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: I feel sorry for you ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:50PM


Really. I do. Are you always home alone? Are you some loser who's a vrigin and is lonely, who needs to make dumbass threads like this because you find this fun? Seriously, you need to kill your self. I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:55PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
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>Seriously, you need to kill your self.


I tried that a few times but unfortunately for all of us, it didn't work.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:57PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you
> want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


That is a terroristic threat. And whether it is online or in person, it is still a felony. We will see who has the last laugh.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:00PM


Senator Warner announced today that $24 million from the economic stimulus package will go toward funding of two projects that will jump-start Virginia's transition to expanded use of health care information technology and electronic medical records.

These grants will help Virginia medical professionals as they work to implement and use HIT to lower consumer health care costs, minimize redundant paperwork and reduce medical errors.

$11.6 million has been awarded to the Virginia Department of Health to further the transition to a standardized health IT network.
$12.4 million has been awarded to a non-profit, statewide project led by the Virginia Health Quality Center in Richmond and the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon to establish regional extension centers to provide HIT and EHR outreach and support services to providers and hospitals serving Virginia’s Medicare population.
Senator Warner said today that although Virginia health care providers are already national leaders in the use of health IT, "significantly help individual providers as they work to implement and use this technology to establish a two-way exchange of information with local health departments."

“This represents a smart, one-time investment in Virginia’s economic infrastructure – investments that should help build on our health IT investment and work to establish electronic medical records in hospitals, nursing homes and physicians' offices that will improve care and reduce costs.”


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Focus on health savings & accountability
Jan 15, 2010 - 10:40 AMAs Senate and House leaders continue to work to craft a compromise health reform bill, Senator Warner is urging negotiators to remain focused on the ultimate goal of health reform: driving-down medical costs for consumers, businesses and taxpayers.

Senator Warner has joined his colleagues in two separate letters to the Senate leadership strongly urging the negotiators to maintain important cost containment measures in the Senate bill. The first letter encourages the leadership to maintain the push for greater competition and private sector innovation that were included in the Senate's version of health reform.

A second letter specifically asks the negotiators to include a “fail-safe mechanism” to require close monitoring and regular reports about whether the hundreds of billions of dollars in projected cost savings are actually being achieved.

If promised health care savings fail to materialize, Congress should have "the tools to bring its actual savings back in line with its original estimates," the letter states.

The process should be tailored in away that enables Congress to address any savings shortfall expeditiously and in the most non-partisan manner possible. It should also be conducted with an eye towards maintaining affordability and quality.

In addition, a letter signed by 14 House Democrats was delivered to the House and Senate leadership recommending that the "Value and Innovation" amendment package introduced by Senator Warner and 11 other Freshman Senators be included in any final bill.

The letters are below:







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A visit to Martinsville
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38 AMSenator Warner traveled to Southside Virginia today to meet with over 50 community and business leaders from Martinsville and Henry County. The community has been one of the hardest hit during the economic downturn -- and this former self-described "Sweatshirt Capital of the World" has been struggling for years with the economic challenges caused by the decline in U.S.-based textile manufacturing.

As part of the visit, Senator Warner passed through downtown and visited with students at the Governor's School of Mathematics. The students told Senator Warner that they regularly wake up as early as 5:30 a.m. to attend the Governor's School program for the first half of the day before going back to their normal high schools in order to take advantage of the small class sizes and advanced teaching opportunities provided by the Governor's School.



Senator Warner also dropped by a meeting of the Uptown Partners, an economic development working group that brings together organizations and individuals determined to revitalize Martinsville and Henry County.

He shared with them some lessons he learned while serving as Governor of Virginia, when he was the Commonwealth's "Chief Economic Development Officer," and discussed federal programs and resources that are available for communities like Martinsville to grow.

He also discussed two initiatives that he is working on in Congress: his on-going efforts to boost small business lending, and a new effort that will help states and local governments attract and create new jobs.

The meeting with community leaders was held at the Virginia Museum of Natural History, which he helped bring to the region when he served as Governor. Senator Warner provided the business and community leaders an update from Washington, discussed his upcoming initiatives on job-creation, and detailed how the status quo in health care ultimately could bankrupt Virginia families, businesses, and the state and federal governments.

Senator Warner told the community leaders that the noisy health care reform debate has included a lot of hyperbole, hypocrisy, misinformation and disinformation. "There's a lot to not be happy with," he said. "But if this bill was half as bad as some people are saying, I sure as heck would not have voted for it."




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The health care vote
Dec 24, 2009 - 08:02 AMSenator Warner released the following statement this morning after voting in favor of the Senate health reform bill:

“I voted in support of the Senate health care bill. While this legislation is far from perfect, I believe it will start to curb soaring health care costs for consumers and businesses, reduce our federal budget deficits over time, and extend the life of the Medicare program.

In addition, a dozen of my freshman colleagues worked together to successfully add significant cost containment measures to the Senate proposal, and we have expanded programs that deliver higher-quality care at lower cost. Our amendments, which encourage innovation, broaden transparency and aggressively attack inefficiency and fraud, have received bipartisan support, as well as endorsements from AARP, the Virginia Hospital and Healthcare Association, and major businesses that make-up The Business Roundtable.

Rising medical costs are strangling the American economy, hurting American families, and killing our ability to compete globally. This legislation represents a strong start, and includes almost every approach suggested by leading experts to try to tackle medical costs that have more than doubled in the past decade.

As this bill moves to conference, the focus must remain on the goals of reducing health care costs, increasing efficiency and accountability, and incorporating private-sector solutions to our health care challenges.”

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On December 8, Senator Warner and 10 Freshman colleagues announced a package of health care amendments that would expand and accelerate efforts to encourage innovation and accountability across the health care system -- and drive down costs.
Click here for more information on Senator Warner's views on health care.
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Health care facts versus opinion
Dec 22, 2009 - 01:26 PMThe pending Senate health reform proposal is far from perfect, but honest discussion has been obscured by the misinformation and disinformation swirling around the issue.

For instance, an editorial in today's Newport News, Va., Daily Press repeats inaccurate arguments frequently made by critics.

Critics have been suggesting for some time that consumers should be allowed to purchase health insurance plans across state lines. This morning's editorial says the Senate bill does not provide "practical reform that would allow people to buy insurance across state lines, creating true competition that might lower bills."

In fact, the “insurance exchange” that would be created through the Senate proposal would allow consumers to purchase coverage from insurers outside of their region, subject to individual state approvals and with appropriate federal oversight to ensure that certain minimum standards are met.

For more precise language of this section of the bill, click here and scroll down to Section 1333.
The editorial also repeated claims frequently made by members of the minority party that tort reform simply must be a critical piece of any reform proposal. Yet when a medical malpractice amendment was offered on the Senate floor, 12 of 40 Republican senators voted against it. Senator Warner was one of four Democrats who voted to support med-mal reform.

It’s also worth noting that, in effect, state-level actions already have imposed med-mal reform: at least 38 states have adopted medical malpractice damage caps.
For all of the editorial's references to "new entitlements," it fails to even mention Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit enacted by the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress back in 2003. This dramatic expansion of Medicare was never paid for, and the Bush Administration did not factor its true cost into deficit calculations. The 2009 report to Congress by the Medicare trustees estimates the ten-year cost of the Medicare Part D unfunded entitlement at $1.3 trillion.
We have posted a list of some of the benefits that millions of Americans will receive right away under the Senate health reform legislation. Those benefits include: no lifetime limits on coverage, tax credits for small businesses looking to purchase health insurance, and extension of coverage for young adults.


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A salt-measuring NASA satellite instrument destined to be installed on an Argentinean satellite was also undamaged in the earthquake, JPL officials said.

The Aquarius instrument was in the city of Bariloche, Argentina, where it is being installed in the Satelite de Aplicaciones Cientificas (SAC-D) satellite. The satellite integration facility is about 365 miles (588 km) from the Chile quake's epicenter.

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FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: FOX5 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:33PM


There will be no School Wed. March 3 for the Fairax County Public School system due to the forecast of 9" of snowfall overnight tonight through tomorrow. Stay tuned for more details.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: stfu ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:44PM


Stop it with these fucking threads.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:46PM


Schools have been closed in the following counties:

In Virginia:

Accomack County, Albemarle County, Alleghany County, Amelia County, Amherst County, Appomattox County, Arlington County, Augusta County, Bath County, Bedford County, Bland County, Botetourt County, Brunswick County, Buchanan County
Buckingham County, Campbell County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Charles City County, Charlotte County, Chesterfield County, Clarke County, Craig County, Culpeper County, Cumberland County, Dickenson County, Dinwiddie County, Essex County, Fairfax County, Fauquier County, Floyd County, Fluvanna County, Franklin County, and Frederick County

In Maryland:

Allegany County, Anne Arundel County, Baltimore city, Baltimore County, Calvert County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Cecil County, Charles County, Dorchester County, Frederick County, Garrett County, Harford County, Howard County, Kent County, Montgomery County, Prince George's County, Queen Anne's County, Somerset County, St. Mary's County, Talbot County, Washington County, Wicomico County, and Worcester County


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:25PM


I just saw the announcement on Red Asshole 69.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: g-z? ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:44PM


Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: ABC123 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:46PM


g-z? Wrote:
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> Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all
> counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....

+1

The first alphabetical storm of the season.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:44PM


This just in...

g-z? Wrote:
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> The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: I feel sorry for you ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:50PM


Really. I do. Are you always home alone? Are you some loser who's a vrigin and is lonely, who needs to make dumbass threads like this because you find this fun? Seriously, you need to kill your self. I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:55PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>Seriously, you need to kill your self.


I tried that a few times but unfortunately for all of us, it didn't work.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:57PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you
> want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


That is a terroristic threat. And whether it is online or in person, it is still a felony. We will see who has the last laugh.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:00PM


Senator Warner announced today that $24 million from the economic stimulus package will go toward funding of two projects that will jump-start Virginia's transition to expanded use of health care information technology and electronic medical records.

These grants will help Virginia medical professionals as they work to implement and use HIT to lower consumer health care costs, minimize redundant paperwork and reduce medical errors.

$11.6 million has been awarded to the Virginia Department of Health to further the transition to a standardized health IT network.
$12.4 million has been awarded to a non-profit, statewide project led by the Virginia Health Quality Center in Richmond and the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon to establish regional extension centers to provide HIT and EHR outreach and support services to providers and hospitals serving Virginia’s Medicare population.
Senator Warner said today that although Virginia health care providers are already national leaders in the use of health IT, "significantly help individual providers as they work to implement and use this technology to establish a two-way exchange of information with local health departments."

“This represents a smart, one-time investment in Virginia’s economic infrastructure – investments that should help build on our health IT investment and work to establish electronic medical records in hospitals, nursing homes and physicians' offices that will improve care and reduce costs.”


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Focus on health savings & accountability
Jan 15, 2010 - 10:40 AMAs Senate and House leaders continue to work to craft a compromise health reform bill, Senator Warner is urging negotiators to remain focused on the ultimate goal of health reform: driving-down medical costs for consumers, businesses and taxpayers.

Senator Warner has joined his colleagues in two separate letters to the Senate leadership strongly urging the negotiators to maintain important cost containment measures in the Senate bill. The first letter encourages the leadership to maintain the push for greater competition and private sector innovation that were included in the Senate's version of health reform.

A second letter specifically asks the negotiators to include a “fail-safe mechanism” to require close monitoring and regular reports about whether the hundreds of billions of dollars in projected cost savings are actually being achieved.

If promised health care savings fail to materialize, Congress should have "the tools to bring its actual savings back in line with its original estimates," the letter states.

The process should be tailored in away that enables Congress to address any savings shortfall expeditiously and in the most non-partisan manner possible. It should also be conducted with an eye towards maintaining affordability and quality.

In addition, a letter signed by 14 House Democrats was delivered to the House and Senate leadership recommending that the "Value and Innovation" amendment package introduced by Senator Warner and 11 other Freshman Senators be included in any final bill.

The letters are below:







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A visit to Martinsville
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38 AMSenator Warner traveled to Southside Virginia today to meet with over 50 community and business leaders from Martinsville and Henry County. The community has been one of the hardest hit during the economic downturn -- and this former self-described "Sweatshirt Capital of the World" has been struggling for years with the economic challenges caused by the decline in U.S.-based textile manufacturing.

As part of the visit, Senator Warner passed through downtown and visited with students at the Governor's School of Mathematics. The students told Senator Warner that they regularly wake up as early as 5:30 a.m. to attend the Governor's School program for the first half of the day before going back to their normal high schools in order to take advantage of the small class sizes and advanced teaching opportunities provided by the Governor's School.



Senator Warner also dropped by a meeting of the Uptown Partners, an economic development working group that brings together organizations and individuals determined to revitalize Martinsville and Henry County.

He shared with them some lessons he learned while serving as Governor of Virginia, when he was the Commonwealth's "Chief Economic Development Officer," and discussed federal programs and resources that are available for communities like Martinsville to grow.

He also discussed two initiatives that he is working on in Congress: his on-going efforts to boost small business lending, and a new effort that will help states and local governments attract and create new jobs.

The meeting with community leaders was held at the Virginia Museum of Natural History, which he helped bring to the region when he served as Governor. Senator Warner provided the business and community leaders an update from Washington, discussed his upcoming initiatives on job-creation, and detailed how the status quo in health care ultimately could bankrupt Virginia families, businesses, and the state and federal governments.

Senator Warner told the community leaders that the noisy health care reform debate has included a lot of hyperbole, hypocrisy, misinformation and disinformation. "There's a lot to not be happy with," he said. "But if this bill was half as bad as some people are saying, I sure as heck would not have voted for it."




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Warner outlines proposals
On January 12, the Martinsville Bulletin reported on Senator Warner's visit to the area to discuss two initiatives aimed at helping communities and businesses create jobs.

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The health care vote
Dec 24, 2009 - 08:02 AMSenator Warner released the following statement this morning after voting in favor of the Senate health reform bill:

“I voted in support of the Senate health care bill. While this legislation is far from perfect, I believe it will start to curb soaring health care costs for consumers and businesses, reduce our federal budget deficits over time, and extend the life of the Medicare program.

In addition, a dozen of my freshman colleagues worked together to successfully add significant cost containment measures to the Senate proposal, and we have expanded programs that deliver higher-quality care at lower cost. Our amendments, which encourage innovation, broaden transparency and aggressively attack inefficiency and fraud, have received bipartisan support, as well as endorsements from AARP, the Virginia Hospital and Healthcare Association, and major businesses that make-up The Business Roundtable.

Rising medical costs are strangling the American economy, hurting American families, and killing our ability to compete globally. This legislation represents a strong start, and includes almost every approach suggested by leading experts to try to tackle medical costs that have more than doubled in the past decade.

As this bill moves to conference, the focus must remain on the goals of reducing health care costs, increasing efficiency and accountability, and incorporating private-sector solutions to our health care challenges.”

RELATED:

On December 8, Senator Warner and 10 Freshman colleagues announced a package of health care amendments that would expand and accelerate efforts to encourage innovation and accountability across the health care system -- and drive down costs.
Click here for more information on Senator Warner's views on health care.
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Health care facts versus opinion
Dec 22, 2009 - 01:26 PMThe pending Senate health reform proposal is far from perfect, but honest discussion has been obscured by the misinformation and disinformation swirling around the issue.

For instance, an editorial in today's Newport News, Va., Daily Press repeats inaccurate arguments frequently made by critics.

Critics have been suggesting for some time that consumers should be allowed to purchase health insurance plans across state lines. This morning's editorial says the Senate bill does not provide "practical reform that would allow people to buy insurance across state lines, creating true competition that might lower bills."

In fact, the “insurance exchange” that would be created through the Senate proposal would allow consumers to purchase coverage from insurers outside of their region, subject to individual state approvals and with appropriate federal oversight to ensure that certain minimum standards are met.

For more precise language of this section of the bill, click here and scroll down to Section 1333.
The editorial also repeated claims frequently made by members of the minority party that tort reform simply must be a critical piece of any reform proposal. Yet when a medical malpractice amendment was offered on the Senate floor, 12 of 40 Republican senators voted against it. Senator Warner was one of four Democrats who voted to support med-mal reform.

It’s also worth noting that, in effect, state-level actions already have imposed med-mal reform: at least 38 states have adopted medical malpractice damage caps.
For all of the editorial's references to "new entitlements," it fails to even mention Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit enacted by the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress back in 2003. This dramatic expansion of Medicare was never paid for, and the Bush Administration did not factor its true cost into deficit calculations. The 2009 report to Congress by the Medicare trustees estimates the ten-year cost of the Medicare Part D unfunded entitlement at $1.3 trillion.
We have posted a list of some of the benefits that millions of Americans will receive right away under the Senate health reform legislation. Those benefits include: no lifetime limits on coverage, tax credits for small businesses looking to purchase health insurance, and extension of coverage for young adults.


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Date: March 02, 2010 08:45PM


I heard about something like this before. China built a huge dam and the massive amounts of water caused the Earth to tilt just a tiny amount. It shortened the day by about half a millisecond.


As far as the massive earthquakes that have been happening, 2012 is just around the corner, and only John Cusack can save us.



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Re: Chile Earthquake May Have Shortened Days on Earth
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Date: March 02, 2010 09:03PM


To sum up that article:

Every major earthquake that ever happened has shifted the earth's axis on this miniscule scale. The biggest revelation is that we now have enough engineering precision to measure that change.

Millionths of a second are nothing. Even if the earthquake shifted our days by a complete a second, no one would ever even realize it.




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Date: March 02, 2010 04:33PM


There will be no School Wed. March 3 for the Fairax County Public School system due to the forecast of 9" of snowfall overnight tonight through tomorrow. Stay tuned for more details.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
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Date: March 02, 2010 04:44PM


Stop it with these fucking threads.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:46PM


Schools have been closed in the following counties:

In Virginia:

Accomack County, Albemarle County, Alleghany County, Amelia County, Amherst County, Appomattox County, Arlington County, Augusta County, Bath County, Bedford County, Bland County, Botetourt County, Brunswick County, Buchanan County
Buckingham County, Campbell County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Charles City County, Charlotte County, Chesterfield County, Clarke County, Craig County, Culpeper County, Cumberland County, Dickenson County, Dinwiddie County, Essex County, Fairfax County, Fauquier County, Floyd County, Fluvanna County, Franklin County, and Frederick County

In Maryland:

Allegany County, Anne Arundel County, Baltimore city, Baltimore County, Calvert County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Cecil County, Charles County, Dorchester County, Frederick County, Garrett County, Harford County, Howard County, Kent County, Montgomery County, Prince George's County, Queen Anne's County, Somerset County, St. Mary's County, Talbot County, Washington County, Wicomico County, and Worcester County


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:25PM


I just saw the announcement on Red Asshole 69.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: g-z? ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:44PM


Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: ABC123 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:46PM


g-z? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all
> counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....

+1

The first alphabetical storm of the season.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:44PM


This just in...

g-z? Wrote:
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> The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: I feel sorry for you ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:50PM


Really. I do. Are you always home alone? Are you some loser who's a vrigin and is lonely, who needs to make dumbass threads like this because you find this fun? Seriously, you need to kill your self. I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:55PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>Seriously, you need to kill your self.


I tried that a few times but unfortunately for all of us, it didn't work.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:57PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you
> want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


That is a terroristic threat. And whether it is online or in person, it is still a felony. We will see who has the last laugh.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:00PM


Senator Warner announced today that $24 million from the economic stimulus package will go toward funding of two projects that will jump-start Virginia's transition to expanded use of health care information technology and electronic medical records.

These grants will help Virginia medical professionals as they work to implement and use HIT to lower consumer health care costs, minimize redundant paperwork and reduce medical errors.

$11.6 million has been awarded to the Virginia Department of Health to further the transition to a standardized health IT network.
$12.4 million has been awarded to a non-profit, statewide project led by the Virginia Health Quality Center in Richmond and the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon to establish regional extension centers to provide HIT and EHR outreach and support services to providers and hospitals serving Virginia’s Medicare population.
Senator Warner said today that although Virginia health care providers are already national leaders in the use of health IT, "significantly help individual providers as they work to implement and use this technology to establish a two-way exchange of information with local health departments."

“This represents a smart, one-time investment in Virginia’s economic infrastructure – investments that should help build on our health IT investment and work to establish electronic medical records in hospitals, nursing homes and physicians' offices that will improve care and reduce costs.”


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Focus on health savings & accountability
Jan 15, 2010 - 10:40 AMAs Senate and House leaders continue to work to craft a compromise health reform bill, Senator Warner is urging negotiators to remain focused on the ultimate goal of health reform: driving-down medical costs for consumers, businesses and taxpayers.

Senator Warner has joined his colleagues in two separate letters to the Senate leadership strongly urging the negotiators to maintain important cost containment measures in the Senate bill. The first letter encourages the leadership to maintain the push for greater competition and private sector innovation that were included in the Senate's version of health reform.

A second letter specifically asks the negotiators to include a “fail-safe mechanism” to require close monitoring and regular reports about whether the hundreds of billions of dollars in projected cost savings are actually being achieved.

If promised health care savings fail to materialize, Congress should have "the tools to bring its actual savings back in line with its original estimates," the letter states.

The process should be tailored in away that enables Congress to address any savings shortfall expeditiously and in the most non-partisan manner possible. It should also be conducted with an eye towards maintaining affordability and quality.

In addition, a letter signed by 14 House Democrats was delivered to the House and Senate leadership recommending that the "Value and Innovation" amendment package introduced by Senator Warner and 11 other Freshman Senators be included in any final bill.

The letters are below:







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A visit to Martinsville
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38 AMSenator Warner traveled to Southside Virginia today to meet with over 50 community and business leaders from Martinsville and Henry County. The community has been one of the hardest hit during the economic downturn -- and this former self-described "Sweatshirt Capital of the World" has been struggling for years with the economic challenges caused by the decline in U.S.-based textile manufacturing.

As part of the visit, Senator Warner passed through downtown and visited with students at the Governor's School of Mathematics. The students told Senator Warner that they regularly wake up as early as 5:30 a.m. to attend the Governor's School program for the first half of the day before going back to their normal high schools in order to take advantage of the small class sizes and advanced teaching opportunities provided by the Governor's School.



Senator Warner also dropped by a meeting of the Uptown Partners, an economic development working group that brings together organizations and individuals determined to revitalize Martinsville and Henry County.

He shared with them some lessons he learned while serving as Governor of Virginia, when he was the Commonwealth's "Chief Economic Development Officer," and discussed federal programs and resources that are available for communities like Martinsville to grow.

He also discussed two initiatives that he is working on in Congress: his on-going efforts to boost small business lending, and a new effort that will help states and local governments attract and create new jobs.

The meeting with community leaders was held at the Virginia Museum of Natural History, which he helped bring to the region when he served as Governor. Senator Warner provided the business and community leaders an update from Washington, discussed his upcoming initiatives on job-creation, and detailed how the status quo in health care ultimately could bankrupt Virginia families, businesses, and the state and federal governments.

Senator Warner told the community leaders that the noisy health care reform debate has included a lot of hyperbole, hypocrisy, misinformation and disinformation. "There's a lot to not be happy with," he said. "But if this bill was half as bad as some people are saying, I sure as heck would not have voted for it."




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The health care vote
Dec 24, 2009 - 08:02 AMSenator Warner released the following statement this morning after voting in favor of the Senate health reform bill:

“I voted in support of the Senate health care bill. While this legislation is far from perfect, I believe it will start to curb soaring health care costs for consumers and businesses, reduce our federal budget deficits over time, and extend the life of the Medicare program.

In addition, a dozen of my freshman colleagues worked together to successfully add significant cost containment measures to the Senate proposal, and we have expanded programs that deliver higher-quality care at lower cost. Our amendments, which encourage innovation, broaden transparency and aggressively attack inefficiency and fraud, have received bipartisan support, as well as endorsements from AARP, the Virginia Hospital and Healthcare Association, and major businesses that make-up The Business Roundtable.

Rising medical costs are strangling the American economy, hurting American families, and killing our ability to compete globally. This legislation represents a strong start, and includes almost every approach suggested by leading experts to try to tackle medical costs that have more than doubled in the past decade.

As this bill moves to conference, the focus must remain on the goals of reducing health care costs, increasing efficiency and accountability, and incorporating private-sector solutions to our health care challenges.”

RELATED:

On December 8, Senator Warner and 10 Freshman colleagues announced a package of health care amendments that would expand and accelerate efforts to encourage innovation and accountability across the health care system -- and drive down costs.
Click here for more information on Senator Warner's views on health care.
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Health care facts versus opinion
Dec 22, 2009 - 01:26 PMThe pending Senate health reform proposal is far from perfect, but honest discussion has been obscured by the misinformation and disinformation swirling around the issue.

For instance, an editorial in today's Newport News, Va., Daily Press repeats inaccurate arguments frequently made by critics.

Critics have been suggesting for some time that consumers should be allowed to purchase health insurance plans across state lines. This morning's editorial says the Senate bill does not provide "practical reform that would allow people to buy insurance across state lines, creating true competition that might lower bills."

In fact, the “insurance exchange” that would be created through the Senate proposal would allow consumers to purchase coverage from insurers outside of their region, subject to individual state approvals and with appropriate federal oversight to ensure that certain minimum standards are met.

For more precise language of this section of the bill, click here and scroll down to Section 1333.
The editorial also repeated claims frequently made by members of the minority party that tort reform simply must be a critical piece of any reform proposal. Yet when a medical malpractice amendment was offered on the Senate floor, 12 of 40 Republican senators voted against it. Senator Warner was one of four Democrats who voted to support med-mal reform.

It’s also worth noting that, in effect, state-level actions already have imposed med-mal reform: at least 38 states have adopted medical malpractice damage caps.
For all of the editorial's references to "new entitlements," it fails to even mention Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit enacted by the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress back in 2003. This dramatic expansion of Medicare was never paid for, and the Bush Administration did not factor its true cost into deficit calculations. The 2009 report to Congress by the Medicare trustees estimates the ten-year cost of the Medicare Part D unfunded entitlement at $1.3 trillion.
We have posted a list of some of the benefits that millions of Americans will receive right away under the Senate health reform legislation. Those benefits include: no lifetime limits on coverage, tax credits for small businesses looking to purchase health insurance, and extension of coverage for young adults.


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FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: FOX5 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:33PM


There will be no School Wed. March 3 for the Fairax County Public School system due to the forecast of 9" of snowfall overnight tonight through tomorrow. Stay tuned for more details.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: stfu ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:44PM


Stop it with these fucking threads.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:46PM


Schools have been closed in the following counties:

In Virginia:

Accomack County, Albemarle County, Alleghany County, Amelia County, Amherst County, Appomattox County, Arlington County, Augusta County, Bath County, Bedford County, Bland County, Botetourt County, Brunswick County, Buchanan County
Buckingham County, Campbell County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Charles City County, Charlotte County, Chesterfield County, Clarke County, Craig County, Culpeper County, Cumberland County, Dickenson County, Dinwiddie County, Essex County, Fairfax County, Fauquier County, Floyd County, Fluvanna County, Franklin County, and Frederick County

In Maryland:

Allegany County, Anne Arundel County, Baltimore city, Baltimore County, Calvert County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Cecil County, Charles County, Dorchester County, Frederick County, Garrett County, Harford County, Howard County, Kent County, Montgomery County, Prince George's County, Queen Anne's County, Somerset County, St. Mary's County, Talbot County, Washington County, Wicomico County, and Worcester County


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:25PM


I just saw the announcement on Red Asshole 69.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: g-z? ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:44PM


Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: ABC123 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:46PM


g-z? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all
> counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....

+1

The first alphabetical storm of the season.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:44PM


This just in...

g-z? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: I feel sorry for you ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:50PM


Really. I do. Are you always home alone? Are you some loser who's a vrigin and is lonely, who needs to make dumbass threads like this because you find this fun? Seriously, you need to kill your self. I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:55PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>Seriously, you need to kill your self.


I tried that a few times but unfortunately for all of us, it didn't work.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:57PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you
> want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


That is a terroristic threat. And whether it is online or in person, it is still a felony. We will see who has the last laugh.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:00PM


Senator Warner announced today that $24 million from the economic stimulus package will go toward funding of two projects that will jump-start Virginia's transition to expanded use of health care information technology and electronic medical records.

These grants will help Virginia medical professionals as they work to implement and use HIT to lower consumer health care costs, minimize redundant paperwork and reduce medical errors.

$11.6 million has been awarded to the Virginia Department of Health to further the transition to a standardized health IT network.
$12.4 million has been awarded to a non-profit, statewide project led by the Virginia Health Quality Center in Richmond and the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon to establish regional extension centers to provide HIT and EHR outreach and support services to providers and hospitals serving Virginia’s Medicare population.
Senator Warner said today that although Virginia health care providers are already national leaders in the use of health IT, "significantly help individual providers as they work to implement and use this technology to establish a two-way exchange of information with local health departments."

“This represents a smart, one-time investment in Virginia’s economic infrastructure – investments that should help build on our health IT investment and work to establish electronic medical records in hospitals, nursing homes and physicians' offices that will improve care and reduce costs.”


ShareThis
Focus on health savings & accountability
Jan 15, 2010 - 10:40 AMAs Senate and House leaders continue to work to craft a compromise health reform bill, Senator Warner is urging negotiators to remain focused on the ultimate goal of health reform: driving-down medical costs for consumers, businesses and taxpayers.

Senator Warner has joined his colleagues in two separate letters to the Senate leadership strongly urging the negotiators to maintain important cost containment measures in the Senate bill. The first letter encourages the leadership to maintain the push for greater competition and private sector innovation that were included in the Senate's version of health reform.

A second letter specifically asks the negotiators to include a “fail-safe mechanism” to require close monitoring and regular reports about whether the hundreds of billions of dollars in projected cost savings are actually being achieved.

If promised health care savings fail to materialize, Congress should have "the tools to bring its actual savings back in line with its original estimates," the letter states.

The process should be tailored in away that enables Congress to address any savings shortfall expeditiously and in the most non-partisan manner possible. It should also be conducted with an eye towards maintaining affordability and quality.

In addition, a letter signed by 14 House Democrats was delivered to the House and Senate leadership recommending that the "Value and Innovation" amendment package introduced by Senator Warner and 11 other Freshman Senators be included in any final bill.

The letters are below:







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A visit to Martinsville
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38 AMSenator Warner traveled to Southside Virginia today to meet with over 50 community and business leaders from Martinsville and Henry County. The community has been one of the hardest hit during the economic downturn -- and this former self-described "Sweatshirt Capital of the World" has been struggling for years with the economic challenges caused by the decline in U.S.-based textile manufacturing.

As part of the visit, Senator Warner passed through downtown and visited with students at the Governor's School of Mathematics. The students told Senator Warner that they regularly wake up as early as 5:30 a.m. to attend the Governor's School program for the first half of the day before going back to their normal high schools in order to take advantage of the small class sizes and advanced teaching opportunities provided by the Governor's School.



Senator Warner also dropped by a meeting of the Uptown Partners, an economic development working group that brings together organizations and individuals determined to revitalize Martinsville and Henry County.

He shared with them some lessons he learned while serving as Governor of Virginia, when he was the Commonwealth's "Chief Economic Development Officer," and discussed federal programs and resources that are available for communities like Martinsville to grow.

He also discussed two initiatives that he is working on in Congress: his on-going efforts to boost small business lending, and a new effort that will help states and local governments attract and create new jobs.

The meeting with community leaders was held at the Virginia Museum of Natural History, which he helped bring to the region when he served as Governor. Senator Warner provided the business and community leaders an update from Washington, discussed his upcoming initiatives on job-creation, and detailed how the status quo in health care ultimately could bankrupt Virginia families, businesses, and the state and federal governments.

Senator Warner told the community leaders that the noisy health care reform debate has included a lot of hyperbole, hypocrisy, misinformation and disinformation. "There's a lot to not be happy with," he said. "But if this bill was half as bad as some people are saying, I sure as heck would not have voted for it."




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Warner outlines proposals
On January 12, the Martinsville Bulletin reported on Senator Warner's visit to the area to discuss two initiatives aimed at helping communities and businesses create jobs.

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The health care vote
Dec 24, 2009 - 08:02 AMSenator Warner released the following statement this morning after voting in favor of the Senate health reform bill:

“I voted in support of the Senate health care bill. While this legislation is far from perfect, I believe it will start to curb soaring health care costs for consumers and businesses, reduce our federal budget deficits over time, and extend the life of the Medicare program.

In addition, a dozen of my freshman colleagues worked together to successfully add significant cost containment measures to the Senate proposal, and we have expanded programs that deliver higher-quality care at lower cost. Our amendments, which encourage innovation, broaden transparency and aggressively attack inefficiency and fraud, have received bipartisan support, as well as endorsements from AARP, the Virginia Hospital and Healthcare Association, and major businesses that make-up The Business Roundtable.

Rising medical costs are strangling the American economy, hurting American families, and killing our ability to compete globally. This legislation represents a strong start, and includes almost every approach suggested by leading experts to try to tackle medical costs that have more than doubled in the past decade.

As this bill moves to conference, the focus must remain on the goals of reducing health care costs, increasing efficiency and accountability, and incorporating private-sector solutions to our health care challenges.”

RELATED:

On December 8, Senator Warner and 10 Freshman colleagues announced a package of health care amendments that would expand and accelerate efforts to encourage innovation and accountability across the health care system -- and drive down costs.
Click here for more information on Senator Warner's views on health care.
ShareThis
Health care facts versus opinion
Dec 22, 2009 - 01:26 PMThe pending Senate health reform proposal is far from perfect, but honest discussion has been obscured by the misinformation and disinformation swirling around the issue.

For instance, an editorial in today's Newport News, Va., Daily Press repeats inaccurate arguments frequently made by critics.

Critics have been suggesting for some time that consumers should be allowed to purchase health insurance plans across state lines. This morning's editorial says the Senate bill does not provide "practical reform that would allow people to buy insurance across state lines, creating true competition that might lower bills."

In fact, the “insurance exchange” that would be created through the Senate proposal would allow consumers to purchase coverage from insurers outside of their region, subject to individual state approvals and with appropriate federal oversight to ensure that certain minimum standards are met.

For more precise language of this section of the bill, click here and scroll down to Section 1333.
The editorial also repeated claims frequently made by members of the minority party that tort reform simply must be a critical piece of any reform proposal. Yet when a medical malpractice amendment was offered on the Senate floor, 12 of 40 Republican senators voted against it. Senator Warner was one of four Democrats who voted to support med-mal reform.

It’s also worth noting that, in effect, state-level actions already have imposed med-mal reform: at least 38 states have adopted medical malpractice damage caps.
For all of the editorial's references to "new entitlements," it fails to even mention Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit enacted by the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress back in 2003. This dramatic expansion of Medicare was never paid for, and the Bush Administration did not factor its true cost into deficit calculations. The 2009 report to Congress by the Medicare trustees estimates the ten-year cost of the Medicare Part D unfunded entitlement at $1.3 trillion.
We have posted a list of some of the benefits that millions of Americans will receive right away under the Senate health reform legislation. Those benefits include: no lifetime limits on coverage, tax credits for small businesses looking to purchase health insurance, and extension of coverage for young adults.


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Re: Chile Earthquake May Have Shortened Days on Earth
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:45PM


I heard about something like this before. China built a huge dam and the massive amounts of water caused the Earth to tilt just a tiny amount. It shortened the day by about half a millisecond.


As far as the massive earthquakes that have been happening, 2012 is just around the corner, and only John Cusack can save us.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/02/2010 08:46PM by eesh.


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Re: Chile Earthquake May Have Shortened Days on Earth
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 02, 2010 09:03PM


To sum up that article:

Every major earthquake that ever happened has shifted the earth's axis on this miniscule scale. The biggest revelation is that we now have enough engineering precision to measure that change.

Millionths of a second are nothing. Even if the earthquake shifted our days by a complete a second, no one would ever even realize it.




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Re: Chile Earthquake May Have Shortened Days on Earth
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 09:07PM


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FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: FOX5 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:33PM


There will be no School Wed. March 3 for the Fairax County Public School system due to the forecast of 9" of snowfall overnight tonight through tomorrow. Stay tuned for more details.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: stfu ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:44PM


Stop it with these fucking threads.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 04:46PM


Schools have been closed in the following counties:

In Virginia:

Accomack County, Albemarle County, Alleghany County, Amelia County, Amherst County, Appomattox County, Arlington County, Augusta County, Bath County, Bedford County, Bland County, Botetourt County, Brunswick County, Buchanan County
Buckingham County, Campbell County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Charles City County, Charlotte County, Chesterfield County, Clarke County, Craig County, Culpeper County, Cumberland County, Dickenson County, Dinwiddie County, Essex County, Fairfax County, Fauquier County, Floyd County, Fluvanna County, Franklin County, and Frederick County

In Maryland:

Allegany County, Anne Arundel County, Baltimore city, Baltimore County, Calvert County, Caroline County, Carroll County, Cecil County, Charles County, Dorchester County, Frederick County, Garrett County, Harford County, Howard County, Kent County, Montgomery County, Prince George's County, Queen Anne's County, Somerset County, St. Mary's County, Talbot County, Washington County, Wicomico County, and Worcester County


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:25PM


I just saw the announcement on Red Asshole 69.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: g-z? ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:44PM


Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: ABC123 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 05:46PM


g-z? Wrote:
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> Man, that's classic! The snow is avoiding all
> counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....

+1

The first alphabetical storm of the season.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:44PM


This just in...

g-z? Wrote:
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> The snow is avoiding all counties that begin with G and beyond in Va.....


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: I feel sorry for you ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:50PM


Really. I do. Are you always home alone? Are you some loser who's a vrigin and is lonely, who needs to make dumbass threads like this because you find this fun? Seriously, you need to kill your self. I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:55PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
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>Seriously, you need to kill your self.


I tried that a few times but unfortunately for all of us, it didn't work.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: WUSA9 ()
Date: March 02, 2010 07:57PM


I feel sorry for you Wrote:
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> I'll be glad to put you out of your misery if you
> want me to. You dumb ass faggot.


That is a terroristic threat. And whether it is online or in person, it is still a felony. We will see who has the last laugh.


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Re: FCPS classes cancelled Wed. March 3 due to snow
Posted by: JR/Gravis/RV ()
Date: March 02, 2010 08:00PM


Senator Warner announced today that $24 million from the economic stimulus package will go toward funding of two projects that will jump-start Virginia's transition to expanded use of health care information technology and electronic medical records.

These grants will help Virginia medical professionals as they work to implement and use HIT to lower consumer health care costs, minimize redundant paperwork and reduce medical errors.

$11.6 million has been awarded to the Virginia Department of Health to further the transition to a standardized health IT network.
$12.4 million has been awarded to a non-profit, statewide project led by the Virginia Health Quality Center in Richmond and the Center for Innovative Technology in Herndon to establish regional extension centers to provide HIT and EHR outreach and support services to providers and hospitals serving Virginia’s Medicare population.
Senator Warner said today that although Virginia health care providers are already national leaders in the use of health IT, "significantly help individual providers as they work to implement and use this technology to establish a two-way exchange of information with local health departments."

“This represents a smart, one-time investment in Virginia’s economic infrastructure – investments that should help build on our health IT investment and work to establish electronic medical records in hospitals, nursing homes and physicians' offices that will improve care and reduce costs.”


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Focus on health savings & accountability
Jan 15, 2010 - 10:40 AMAs Senate and House leaders continue to work to craft a compromise health reform bill, Senator Warner is urging negotiators to remain focused on the ultimate goal of health reform: driving-down medical costs for consumers, businesses and taxpayers.

Senator Warner has joined his colleagues in two separate letters to the Senate leadership strongly urging the negotiators to maintain important cost containment measures in the Senate bill. The first letter encourages the leadership to maintain the push for greater competition and private sector innovation that were included in the Senate's version of health reform.

A second letter specifically asks the negotiators to include a “fail-safe mechanism” to require close monitoring and regular reports about whether the hundreds of billions of dollars in projected cost savings are actually being achieved.

If promised health care savings fail to materialize, Congress should have "the tools to bring its actual savings back in line with its original estimates," the letter states.

The process should be tailored in away that enables Congress to address any savings shortfall expeditiously and in the most non-partisan manner possible. It should also be conducted with an eye towards maintaining affordability and quality.

In addition, a letter signed by 14 House Democrats was delivered to the House and Senate leadership recommending that the "Value and Innovation" amendment package introduced by Senator Warner and 11 other Freshman Senators be included in any final bill.

The letters are below:







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A visit to Martinsville
Jan 11, 2010 - 06:38 AMSenator Warner traveled to Southside Virginia today to meet with over 50 community and business leaders from Martinsville and Henry County. The community has been one of the hardest hit during the economic downturn -- and this former self-described "Sweatshirt Capital of the World" has been struggling for years with the economic challenges caused by the decline in U.S.-based textile manufacturing.

As part of the visit, Senator Warner passed through downtown and visited with students at the Governor's School of Mathematics. The students told Senator Warner that they regularly wake up as early as 5:30 a.m. to attend the Governor's School program for the first half of the day before going back to their normal high schools in order to take advantage of the small class sizes and advanced teaching opportunities provided by the Governor's School.



Senator Warner also dropped by a meeting of the Uptown Partners, an economic development working group that brings together organizations and individuals determined to revitalize Martinsville and Henry County.

He shared with them some lessons he learned while serving as Governor of Virginia, when he was the Commonwealth's "Chief Economic Development Officer," and discussed federal programs and resources that are available for communities like Martinsville to grow.

He also discussed two initiatives that he is working on in Congress: his on-going efforts to boost small business lending, and a new effort that will help states and local governments attract and create new jobs.

The meeting with community leaders was held at the Virginia Museum of Natural History, which he helped bring to the region when he served as Governor. Senator Warner provided the business and community leaders an update from Washington, discussed his upcoming initiatives on job-creation, and detailed how the status quo in health care ultimately could bankrupt Virginia families, businesses, and the state and federal governments.

Senator Warner told the community leaders that the noisy health care reform debate has included a lot of hyperbole, hypocrisy, misinformation and disinformation. "There's a lot to not be happy with," he said. "But if this bill was half as bad as some people are saying, I sure as heck would not have voted for it."




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Warner outlines proposals
On January 12, the Martinsville Bulletin reported on Senator Warner's visit to the area to discuss two initiatives aimed at helping communities and businesses create jobs.

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The health care vote
Dec 24, 2009 - 08:02 AMSenator Warner released the following statement this morning after voting in favor of the Senate health reform bill:

“I voted in support of the Senate health care bill. While this legislation is far from perfect, I believe it will start to curb soaring health care costs for consumers and businesses, reduce our federal budget deficits over time, and extend the life of the Medicare program.

In addition, a dozen of my freshman colleagues worked together to successfully add significant cost containment measures to the Senate proposal, and we have expanded programs that deliver higher-quality care at lower cost. Our amendments, which encourage innovation, broaden transparency and aggressively attack inefficiency and fraud, have received bipartisan support, as well as endorsements from AARP, the Virginia Hospital and Healthcare Association, and major businesses that make-up The Business Roundtable.

Rising medical costs are strangling the American economy, hurting American families, and killing our ability to compete globally. This legislation represents a strong start, and includes almost every approach suggested by leading experts to try to tackle medical costs that have more than doubled in the past decade.

As this bill moves to conference, the focus must remain on the goals of reducing health care costs, increasing efficiency and accountability, and incorporating private-sector solutions to our health care challenges.”

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On December 8, Senator Warner and 10 Freshman colleagues announced a package of health care amendments that would expand and accelerate efforts to encourage innovation and accountability across the health care system -- and drive down costs.
Click here for more information on Senator Warner's views on health care.
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Health care facts versus opinion
Dec 22, 2009 - 01:26 PMThe pending Senate health reform proposal is far from perfect, but honest discussion has been obscured by the misinformation and disinformation swirling around the issue.

For instance, an editorial in today's Newport News, Va., Daily Press repeats inaccurate arguments frequently made by critics.

Critics have been suggesting for some time that consumers should be allowed to purchase health insurance plans across state lines. This morning's editorial says the Senate bill does not provide "practical reform that would allow people to buy insurance across state lines, creating true competition that might lower bills."

In fact, the “insurance exchange” that would be created through the Senate proposal would allow consumers to purchase coverage from insurers outside of their region, subject to individual state approvals and with appropriate federal oversight to ensure that certain minimum standards are met.

For more precise language of this section of the bill, click here and scroll down to Section 1333.
The editorial also repeated claims frequently made by members of the minority party that tort reform simply must be a critical piece of any reform proposal. Yet when a medical malpractice amendment was offered on the Senate floor, 12 of 40 Republican senators voted against it. Senator Warner was one of four Democrats who voted to support med-mal reform.

It’s also worth noting that, in effect, state-level actions already have imposed med-mal reform: at least 38 states have adopted medical malpractice damage caps.
For all of the editorial's references to "new entitlements," it fails to even mention Medicare Part D, the prescription drug benefit enacted by the Bush Administration and a Republican-controlled Congress back in 2003. This dramatic expansion of Medicare was never paid for, and the Bush Administration did not factor its true cost into deficit calculations. The 2009 report to Congress by the Medicare trustees estimates the ten-year cost of the Medicare Part D unfunded entitlement at $1.3 trillion.
We have posted a list of some of the benefits that millions of Americans will receive right away under the Senate health reform legislation. Those benefits include: no lifetime limits on coverage, tax credits for small businesses looking to purchase health insurance, and extension of coverage for young adults.


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Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> Re: Stuff
> From: Conie
> To:
> Gonads & Strife
> Date: 02/26/2010 03:32PM
>
> Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> > Conie Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > Are YOU the real Eli?
> >
> >
> > I'm afraid not. Keep the faith.
> >
> > ~ Not Eli
>
> I know you're Eli.
>
>
> I'm not Eli...really. Anybody care to shed some
> light on this?


Just some drama from a desperate forum fag that lives in a basement.

She Devil Wrote:
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> Gonads & Strife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Re: Stuff
> > From: Conie
> > To:
> > Gonads & Strife
> > Date: 02/26/2010 03:32PM
> >
> > Gonads & Strife Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Conie Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Are YOU the real Eli?
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm afraid not. Keep the faith.
> > >
> > > ~ Not Eli
> >
> > I know you're Eli.
> >
> >
> > I'm not Eli...really. Anybody care to shed some
> > light on this?
>
>
> Just some drama from a desperate forum fag that
> lives in a basement.

Waht?! This is plagiarism!

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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>
> Waht?! This is plagiarism!
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bloody blisters Wrote:
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> > My problem is that I was born in August and I
> made
> > the mistake of telling her.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2010 10:06PM by Conie.

hey Conie, where's your island?

Conie Wrote:
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> How do you know I'm a nice person? You don't even
> know me.


She is not a nice person. She is EVIL. She put a picture of me on a pincushion doll and now I have constant back pain. .E. .V. .I. .L.

I would also like Conie to know that I noticed her parked outside my house yesterday with a camera. Remember what happened last time? Restraining orders are there for a reason. Please stay away.

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> hey Conie, where's your island?

La Isla de Las Locas? Oh, I can't tell you that. You might want to look for it. that would be bad. It's a dangerous place.The women lure you, like Sirens..and then they EAT YOU ALIVE..starting with the belly-button.

Conie Wrote:
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> Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> > hey Conie, where's your island?
>
> La Isla de Las Locas? Oh, I can't tell you that.
> You might want to look for it. that would be bad.
> It's a dangerous place.The women lure you, like
> Sirens..and then they EAT YOU ALIVE..starting with
> the belly-button.

that's super.

Say.....wanna have sex?

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> Conie Wrote:
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> > Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > hey Conie, where's your island?
> >
> > La Isla de Las Locas? Oh, I can't tell you
> that.
> > You might want to look for it. that would be
> bad.
> > It's a dangerous place.The women lure you, like
> > Sirens..and then they EAT YOU ALIVE..starting
> with
> > the belly-button.
>
> that's super.
>
> Say.....wanna have sex?

No thanks. I'm saving it for someone special.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________" "good christ is there no limit to their douchebaggery?" - Gonads & Strife

I'm not special? Come on....give me a handjob, at least.
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Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> I'm not special? Come on....give me a handjob, at
> least.

Nope..Saving that for someone special too. Sorrryyy

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________" "good christ is there no limit to their douchebaggery?" - Gonads & Strife

a reach-around?

Elle Diabla Wrote:
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> gay

Bite me Elle. It was sincere.

Mr. Misery Wrote:
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> a reach-around?


Saving that for him too

careful, when el nino bites her teeth fall out.

she needs...

eesh Wrote:
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> I think Cary banned both of them, they were
> flooding the forum and then it stopped suddenly.


yea, i'm not sure what was up with that.

this thread is stupid. for the love of god please stop bumping old bullshit threads. that is all.

Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> this thread is stupid. for the love of god please
> stop bumping old bullshit threads. that is all.

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Gonads & Strife Wrote:
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> I'm not Eli...really. Anybody care to shed some
> light on this?


I'm not Eli...really. Anybody care to shed some light on this?

haha

eesh War

Conie...where is the love?

bump

this thread, lol