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Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Pinhead  ()
Date: May 24, 2019 12:09PM

In the past 8 days, we've seen the following:

- Italy has fired almost all the senior leaders of their intelligence agencies
- Ukraine has fired several high ranking officials in their intel service
- Australia has elected a pro-Trump PM who has vowed to clean house
- Teresa May has resigned.

The intelligence services of all 4 countries are implicated in Spygate.

Now Trump starts declassifying the documents. Ah, the suffering. The sweet, sweet suffering that we're about to see in the media and the deep state.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Deep State member ()
Date: May 24, 2019 12:19PM

LOL, "spygate." Is the the Republitards' new Benghazi?

Keep dreaming, deplorable. Deep state is gonna fuck your boy UP.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Number 2 Pencil Pusher ()
Date: May 24, 2019 12:26PM

Deep State member Wrote:
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> LOL, "spygate." Is the the Republitards' new
> Benghazi?
>
> Keep dreaming, deplorable. Deep state is gonna
> fuck your boy UP.


They already have. The only reason he hasn't been impeached is because you guys got lazy and did a shitty hatchet job on him. That and his twitter account allowing him to get his message out directly.

I'm willing to wait and see what the declassified documents contain before rushing to judgement either way. But it's weird that the folks on CNN and NBC are all complaining about how Trump is declassifying stuff. Thought the press liked transparency.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: are you that stupid? ()
Date: May 24, 2019 01:06PM

Number 2 Pencil Pusher Wrote:
But it's weird that the folks on CNN
> and NBC are all complaining about how Trump is
> declassifying stuff. Thought the press liked
> transparency.


There is a difference between 'transparency' and getting just what Barr and Trump see fit. I know this is a tough concept for you that partisans will act like partisans and that both sides are guilty of it.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: apparently you are ()
Date: May 24, 2019 01:19PM

Right because using an obviously bogus "dossier" and lying to the FISA court, leaking to reporters and then using their articles as back up for your 'intelligence', walking such circular information into agencies by guys like Sydney Blumenthal and Brennan, trying to set up people on the campaign using known foreign intelligence assets and then claiming that they're Russians, and partisan hacks like Sammy Power and Ben Rhodes unmasking 300+ people have perfectly reasonable explanations.

lol

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: flunkies & dropouts ()
Date: May 24, 2019 01:19PM

Deep State member Wrote:
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> LOL, "spygate."

It’s a bunch internet junk being generated by weirdo’s who believe “QAnon” and alt-right trolls from “The_Donald” subreddit. Basically conspiracy theory lacking any theory. i see they’re now wrapping Teresa May’s resignation into the whole fantasy. Pretty soon “spygate” will be a hypothesis to explain things from the disappearance of Amelia Earhart to changes in the earth’s magnetic field. They’re nuts. Losers, basically.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: not so fast there buddyboy ()
Date: May 24, 2019 01:49PM

apparently you are Wrote:
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> Right because using an obviously bogus "dossier"

Gonna stop you right there. Name one thing in the dossier that's been debunked. Go on...I'll wait.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: trumpitality ()
Date: May 24, 2019 01:54PM

Spygate cannot, by definition, be any less real than Russian Collusion.

Isn't it great to see the dems....sorry I mean the Liars....on the defensive now. Get used to it, assholes. We're coming for you.

While your accusations are proven lies, we have the truth, and truth will out.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: ^Actually believed that shit lol ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:01PM

not so fast there buddyboy Wrote:
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> apparently you are Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right because using an obviously bogus
> "dossier"
>
> Gonna stop you right there. Name one thing in the
> dossier that's been debunked. Go on...I'll wait.


Most all of it.

Cohen in Prague, Page to be paid some ridiculous amount of Rosneft, Alfa bank server BS, etc., etc.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Schengen anyone? ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:23PM


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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: McCrappyReporting ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:37PM

Schengen anyone? Wrote:
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> https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/ar
> ticle219016820.html
>
> His phone sure as fuck was in Prague


You seem unaware that McClatchy has been desperately trying to support its original "scoop" that he was in Prague to begin with and that this was, yet another, report based on anonymous third-hand sources.

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McClatchy Reporter Says Report on Cohen’s Prague Trip Cited Third-Hand Evidence

Dec 28th, 2018, 1:02 pm

McClatchy’s Greg Gordon, one of the journalists behind the explosive report on the president’s ex-lawyer Michael Cohen visiting Prague amid the 2016 election, admitted that he did not see first-hand some of the primary evidence used in the piece.

On Thursday, McClatchy reported that there is evidence showing Cohen visited the Czech Republic during Trump’s presidential run, which — if true — would confirm information from the Steele dossier. McClatchy cited third-hand information from foreign intelligence agencies as placing Cohen in Prague during that timeframe, which was reportedly gathered via cell phone data.

While on MSNBC last night, Joy Reid asked Gordon if he and his colleague Peter Stone cited “anything that you were able to physically see for yourselves?”

“I wish we had. We held out for a while for that, and it came a time when we thought we had a critical mass. It is a competitive business,” he replied.

Gordan continued: “Some of the sources have government sources, and some of the sources are people who have told us that they have trusted intelligence-type sources that they get information from. We don’t know the specifics, but we have used these sources on many subjects, and they have been very accurate.”

Source of sources who have sources. lmao

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: the retard is stong in you ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:46PM

Schengen anyone? Wrote:
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> https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/investigations/ar
> ticle219016820.html
>
> His phone sure as fuck was in Prague


Did you not see this at the top of the story that you linked to? lol

 
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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: hwjyh ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:49PM

not so fast there buddyboy Wrote:
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> apparently you are Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right because using an obviously bogus
> "dossier"
>
> Gonna stop you right there. Name one thing in the
> dossier that's been debunked. Go on...I'll wait.

Well - how about this?

The dossier stated there was: an extensive conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

And also: a well developed conspiracy of cooperation between them and Russian leadership.

The Mueller Report/Investigation found and I quote: the the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government

I'd call that DEBUNKED.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Republitards are dumb ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:56PM

Funny how dumb republitards don't understand the difference between "not established" and debunked. The first means has been proven (yet) and the second means has been disproven. I guess English is hard for you tards.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: jknl6 ()
Date: May 24, 2019 02:59PM

Steele’s dossier stated that during a July 2016 trip to deliver a commencement address in Moscow, Carter Page met with two high-level Putin associates and agreed to take a bribe in exchange for lifting U.S. sanctions on Russia.

In fact, taking it to the extreme the dossier claimed that Page was offered the equivalent of a $8 billion bribe!

Mueller Report found no evidence or testimony that demonstrated ANY of these claims were true.

OK, it’s hard to prove a negative, but if Mueller’s team of investigator’s could not find any evidence, I’d say this claim is DEBUNKED.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: dx6un ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:02PM

Republitards are dumb Wrote:
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> Funny how dumb republitards don't understand the
> difference between "not established" and debunked.
> The first means has been proven (yet) and the
> second means has been disproven. I guess English
> is hard for you tards.

You really believe(d) the hoax didn't you? Wow.

Anyway, you understand how the rules of evidence work don't you? You make an unverified claim/accusation. If you can't provide any evidence it is generally considered to be untrue.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: jabba and the huts ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:04PM

dx6un Wrote:
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> You really believe(d) the hoax didn't you? Wow.


Of course he doesn't. He just has nothing left to troll about.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Reversi ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:05PM

Republitards are dumb Wrote:
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> Funny how dumb republitards don't understand the
> difference between "not established" and debunked.
> The first means has been proven (yet) and the
> second means has been disproven. I guess English
> is hard for you tards.


Funny how the burden of proof for random-ass accusations is on those making them, not for someone to prove that some random-ass accusation DIDN'T happen. lol

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Republitards are dumb ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:19PM

jknl6 Wrote:
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> if
> Mueller’s team of investigator’s could not
> find any evidence, I’d say this claim is
> DEBUNKED.


Big hand for republitard "logic," folks!

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Good god you're dumb ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:21PM

Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My original statement still stands. Nothing in the dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's a decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.

Conservatives: dumber than liberals since...forever.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Yeah... ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:23PM

Good god you're dumb Wrote:
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> Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My
> original statement still stands. Nothing in the
> dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's a
> decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.
>
> Conservatives: dumber than liberals
> since...forever.


You really are that stupid aren't you?

lol

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Dicksuckerer2 ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:24PM

Good god you're dumb Wrote:
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> Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My
> original statement still stands. Nothing in the
> dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's a
> decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.
>
> Conservatives: dumber than liberals
> since...forever.


Source say you suck dick.

Prove that you don't.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: even joe thinks you're nuts ()
Date: May 24, 2019 03:52PM

Good god you're dumb Wrote:
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> Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My
> original statement still stands. Nothing in the
> dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's a
> decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.
>
> Conservatives: dumber than liberals
> since...forever.


 
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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: mmguf ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:01PM

Good god you're dumb Wrote:
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> Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My
> original statement still stands. Nothing in the
> dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's a
> decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.

Name ONE significant criminal allegation FROM THE DOSSIER that is confirmed.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: You suck ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:07PM

mmguf Wrote:
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> Good god you're dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law. My
> > original statement still stands. Nothing in the
> > dossier has been debunked, and in fact there's
> a
> > decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.
>
> Name ONE significant criminal allegation FROM THE
> DOSSIER that is confirmed.

The fact that the Kremlin was behind the emails appearing on Wikileaks (confirmed by Mueller). The Trump campaign agreeing to minimize US opposition to Russia's Ukraine invasion (literally written into the RNC convention).
Trump's agreement to lift sanctions against Russia (right after the inauguration he got State to work on that). The use by Gubarev of implanting malware against DNC leadership (confirmed in discovery phase of that trial).

You want more? Or have you been pwned enough for today, loser?

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: You forgot... ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:10PM

The part about you sucking dick.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Triggly Puff ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:16PM

Libshit panic is a beautiful thing.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: He's going down folks ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:26PM

Triggly Puff Wrote:
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> Libshit panic is a beautiful thing.


ONly ones panicking are the Trumptards. See, for example, OP. Or Trump's twitter account where he just pathetically starts screaming 'WITCH HUNT' 'NO COLLUSION' 'YOUR FAVORIT PERSIDENT IS INNOSENT!' '13 ANGRY DEMOCRATS' 'POKERHONTAS' 'SHILLARY IS CORRUPT' 'SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STOP THIS'

Is there anything more sad and beta than a 4am, fiber-fueled Twitter rant from a big orange baby?

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: Sources say you wear panties ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:27PM

You suck Wrote:
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> mmguf Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Good god you're dumb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hey, shitdicks, we're not in a court of law.
> My
> > > original statement still stands. Nothing in
> the
> > > dossier has been debunked, and in fact
> there's
> > a
> > > decent amount that's been CONFIRMED.
> >
> > Name ONE significant criminal allegation FROM
> THE
> > DOSSIER that is confirmed.
>
> The fact that the Kremlin was behind the emails
> appearing on Wikileaks (confirmed by Mueller). The
> Trump campaign agreeing to minimize US opposition
> to Russia's Ukraine invasion (literally written
> into the RNC convention).
> Trump's agreement to lift sanctions against
> Russia (right after the inauguration he got State
> to work on that). The use by Gubarev of implanting
> malware against DNC leadership (confirmed in
> discovery phase of that trial).
>
> You want more? Or have you been pwned enough for
> today, loser?


All of which was either already known or suspected and reported and just twisted to imply some involvement by Trump, misrepresented, or just plain wrong.


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It's one of the enduring misconceptions of the Trump-Russia affair.

During the 2016 Republican convention, the story goes, the Trump campaign weakened a critical passage in the GOP platform to go easy on Russia. The Trump team acted, according to this narrative, as part of an ongoing conspiracy with Russian President Vladimir Putin to help Donald Trump win the White House.

But that is not what happened. In fact, an already-tough portion of the Republican platform dealing with Russia was strengthened, not weakened, at the GOP convention. Here is what took place:

The original draft of the platform — it has never been released publicly, but an insider shared the relevant passages with me — had strong language on Russia, and in particular on Russian aggression in Ukraine. Warning of "a resurgent Russia occupying parts of Ukraine and threatening neighbors from the Baltic to the Caucasus," the platform vowed to increase U.S. pressure on a "reckless" Russia.

"We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union," the platform said. "We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination."

It would be hard to call that a pro-Putin statement. Every word of it stayed in the final platform.

When the platform committee met before the GOP convention in Cleveland, one delegate out of the 100 on the committee — a Texas political activist named Diana Denman — proposed an amendment. Denman, who came to the convention as a Ted Cruz delegate but later switched her support to Trump, was interested because she had traveled to Ukraine as an international election observer in 1998 and has ever since "kept an eye on the emerging democracies," she told me in a conversation last March.

Denman's amendment praised the Ukrainian people and said they deserved the greatest U.S. assistance.

"We therefore support maintaining (and, if warranted, increasing) sanctions against Russia until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored," Denman's proposed amendment read. "We also support providing lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine's armed forces and greater coordination with NATO on defense planning. Simultaneously, we call for increased financial aid for Ukraine, as well as greater assistance in the economic and humanitarian spheres, including government reform and anti-corruption."

Denman's amendment also included an introductory paragraph filled with a lot of generic rhetoric. When she proposed the amendment, a Trump national security aide named J.D. Gordon, who was in the room with the platform committee, wanted to edit it. According to Denman, Gordon got on the phone, saying he was calling "New York" to discuss possible changes.

At the behest of the Trump campaign, the platform committee took out the throat-clearing introduction and changed Denman's reference from "lethal defensive weapons" for Ukraine to a pledge to provide "appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine." They left intact Denman's language on NATO, and on continued and possibly tougher sanctions on Russia.

The final, Trump-approved passage read: "We support maintaining and, if warranted, increasing sanctions, together with our allies, against Russia unless and until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored. We also support providing appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine and greater coordination with NATO defense planning." That was the amendment the committee approved.

In the end, nothing was taken out of the party's original draft platform on Russia. At Denman's behest, and with Trump's approval, the platform was made tougher with language pledging ongoing and possibly increased sanctions. It was also made tougher with Denman's reference to "NATO defense planning," which had not been in the original draft.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: jvwjj ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:49PM

You suck Wrote:
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> >
> > Name ONE significant criminal allegation FROM
> THE
> > DOSSIER that is confirmed.
>
> The fact that the Kremlin was behind the emails
> appearing on Wikileaks (confirmed by Mueller).

Has not been demonstrated that this had anything to do with Trump or the Trump campaign. Also has not been confirmed by Mueller. Only that circumstantial evidence exists.

> Trump campaign agreeing to minimize US opposition
> to Russia's Ukraine invasion (literally written
> into the RNC convention).

Laughably false story. And actually one of the accusations in the Dossier that HAS been debunked.

> Trump's agreement to lift sanctions against
> Russia (right after the inauguration he got State
> to work on that).

Laughably false story. There has been no lifting of sanctions against "Russia."

The use by Gubarev of implanting
> malware against DNC leadership (confirmed in
> discovery phase of that trial).

Not proven. This case is going to trial. We'll see about that.

> You want more? Or have you been pwned enough for
> today, loser?

Yes, I do want more because NOTHING you have mentioned is actually either true or significant in as far as it relates to Trump or the Trump Campaign.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: hardehar ()
Date: May 24, 2019 04:59PM

Ha Libs down to feverishly picking the minutest of nits now, desperately hoping the dead horse miraculously comes back to life.

hoho

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: RUSSIA HOAX WAS A HOAX ()
Date: May 24, 2019 05:03PM

hardehar Wrote:
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> Ha Libs down to feverishly picking the minutest of
> nits now, desperately hoping the dead horse
> miraculously comes back to life.
>
> hoho

true. the bottom line is that the whole story that Trump and/or his campaign was in ANY way colluding or conspiring with "Russians" is false. no one has found any evidence. sorry it was a hoax. live with it. that stuff being shoveled to you the last 2 years was not true. it was fiction.

might as well get over it. NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO PROVE ANY TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION CONSPIRACY OR ANYTHING ELSE.

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Re: Things to think about regarding Trump and declassification
Posted by: President Trump FTW! ()
Date: May 24, 2019 06:17PM

Amazing to me that there are still people who believe the anti American left. The USA has the greatest president in history and we should all take advantage of it before another career politician takes his spot.

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