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Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Not a traitor ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:10PM

He could not turn his back on his own people of Virginia. He defended his home state and his country. After the war, Lee wanted reconciliation between North and South. A woman complained to him about a tree destroyed on her property by the Yankees. His response was "Cut it down, and forget it!". God Bless General Robert E. Lee !

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Cam Francis ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:18PM

The only “crime” General Lee committed was not betraying his race or home state. The American civil war was one of the first conflicts where we learned the true threat posed by Jews and socialists. When the victors write the history books, even the most venerable of men see their names dragged in the mud.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: I tell you this: ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:18PM

A lot of his strategy is studied at West Point and other Academies. Both in wins and defeat; defeats sometimes tells more than victories. He was gracious and humble and loyal to an idea.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Old Dems were good ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:22PM

Cam Francis Wrote:
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> The only “crime” General Lee committed was not
> betraying his race or home state. The American
> civil war was one of the first conflicts where we
> learned the true threat posed by Jews and
> socialists. When the victors write the history
> books, even the most venerable of men see their
> names dragged in the mud.

It's true. The Democrats back then were actually good guys. They were fighting against the Illuminati Deep State and Zionist run government, which Lincoln was apart.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: buying human beings is fine ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:23PM

Not a traitor Wrote:
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> He could not turn his back on his own people of
> Virginia. He defended his home state and his
> country. After the war, Lee wanted reconciliation
> between North and South. A woman complained to him
> about a tree destroyed on her property by the
> Yankees. His response was "Cut it down, and forget
> it!". God Bless General Robert E. Lee !


He was a great General and did want reconciliation. He obviously was a traitor by the very definition of the word. Civil war was a black mark on our history, the confederacy was a black mark on mankind.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: One other thing ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:25PM

Well, a couple:

He committed treason against his country and waged war against military the he once served in.

The amount of American blood he has on his hands would be an ISIS wet dream

By the way, in the defense of slavery.

Other than that, I don't have much problem with him.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Not a Civil War ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:36PM

buying human beings is fine Wrote:
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> Not a traitor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He could not turn his back on his own people of
> > Virginia. He defended his home state and his
> > country. After the war, Lee wanted
> reconciliation
> > between North and South. A woman complained to
> him
> > about a tree destroyed on her property by the
> > Yankees. His response was "Cut it down, and
> forget
> > it!". God Bless General Robert E. Lee !
>
>
> He was a great General and did want
> reconciliation. He obviously was a traitor by the
> very definition of the word. Civil war was a
> black mark on our history, the confederacy was a
> black mark on mankind.


Except, it wasn't a Civil War. It was a war between states. The South didn't want control over the US Government. They formed their own nation.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Lincoln started it ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:38PM

One other thing Wrote:
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> Well, a couple:
>
> He committed treason against his country and waged
> war against military the he once served in.
>
> The amount of American blood he has on his hands
> would be an ISIS wet dream
>
> By the way, in the defense of slavery.
>
> Other than that, I don't have much problem with
> him.

The blood was on Abe Lincoln's hands. It was over economics, not slavery. That is another liberal lie. He defended his homeland- which was the Commonwealth of Virginia. The South was invaded first, by force by Federal terrorists.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: It was over economics? ()
Date: May 16, 2019 05:44PM

Well, to the extent that slavery was the foundation of the southern economy, you could say that. The confederates said it was over slavery.

You don't think they were lying, do you?

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Lincoln's Revenue Source ()
Date: May 16, 2019 06:17PM

It was over economics? Wrote:
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> Well, to the extent that slavery was the
> foundation of the southern economy, you could say
> that. The confederates said it was over slavery.
>
>
> You don't think they were lying, do you?


It was over tariffs:


8. What did the South fight for?

IT FOUGHT TO REPEL INVASION AND FOR SELF-GOVERNMENT, JUST AS THE FATHERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION HAD DONE. Lincoln himself confessed at first that he had no constitutional right to make war against a State, so he resorted to the subterfuge of calling for troops to suppress "combinations" of persons in the Southern States "too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary" processes. It is impossible to understand how the Southern States could have proceeded in a more regular and formal manner than they did to show they acted as States and not as mere "combinations." It shows the lack of principle that characterized Lincoln when later he referred to the Southern States as "insurrectionary States." If the Federal Government had no power to make war upon a State, how could it be called insurrectionary?

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Inspiration for Col Sanders ()
Date: May 16, 2019 06:41PM

It is impossible not to reflect on the legacy of Robt E Lee while enjoying a bucket of KFC.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Cottin Pickin' Textile Mills ()
Date: May 16, 2019 06:58PM

I live on his son's former plantation land which was formerly Robert E. Lee's Mother in Law's Land. Ravensworth Land Grant wherein the plantation was at the current Ravensworth Shopping Center at Braddock and 495.
The local history BEFORE this land grant is very interesting.
Besides that, to answer the Civil War question.

Lincoln knew he was screwed when the south succeeded as the North depending upon the South's plentiful cotton crops.

The south knew it would be screwed if the north voted to abolish slavery or at least their economy would be greatly effected.
South Carolina made it clear that their succession was over this issue.

Also, the North's huge advantage over the south due to tariffs economically. The tariffs actually largely benefited the North and not the South. The south was "barely making it" while the North prospered.

For a break down on the issue of Tariffs see:
https://nonrevisionistcivilwarfacts.wordpress.com/northern-tariffs/

The south already burdened by the disparity with the North over tariffs now faced the real possibility that the human capital which drove the largest plantations would be taken away and that their economy would not survive and so the succession began. South Carolina was particularly open and frank about their fear of losing slavery and put it into writing as reason for succession.

Both the issue of tariffs and the prospect of losing slavery together propelled the Southern States to succeed from the Union.

The North, in turn, (LINCOLN) made the decision to invade the south and "beat it into submission" through warfare in the deadliest war experienced by the populace of our land.

I believe Robert E. Lee was a decent man.

The issue of slavery would have been resolved without 800,000 lives lost to war.

Lincoln, the "hero" or the "Tyrant"?
What say ye?

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: A reasonable question ()
Date: May 16, 2019 07:25PM

Cottin Pickin' Textile Mills Wrote:
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> I live on his son's former plantation land which
> was formerly Robert E. Lee's Mother in Law's Land.
> Ravensworth Land Grant wherein the plantation was
> at the current Ravensworth Shopping Center at
> Braddock and 495.
> The local history BEFORE this land grant is very
> interesting.
> Besides that, to answer the Civil War question.
>
> Lincoln knew he was screwed when the south
> succeeded as the North depending upon the South's
> plentiful cotton crops.
>
> The south knew it would be screwed if the north
> voted to abolish slavery or at least their economy
> would be greatly effected.
> South Carolina made it clear that their succession
> was over this issue.
>
> Also, the North's huge advantage over the south
> due to tariffs economically. The tariffs actually
> largely benefited the North and not the South.
> The south was "barely making it" while the North
> prospered.
>
> For a break down on the issue of Tariffs see:
> https://nonrevisionistcivilwarfacts.wordpress.com/
> northern-tariffs/
>
> The south already burdened by the disparity with
> the North over tariffs now faced the real
> possibility that the human capital which drove the
> largest plantations would be taken away and that
> their economy would not survive and so the
> succession began. South Carolina was particularly
> open and frank about their fear of losing slavery
> and put it into writing as reason for succession.
>
> Both the issue of tariffs and the prospect of
> losing slavery together propelled the Southern
> States to succeed from the Union.
>
> The North, in turn, (LINCOLN) made the decision to
> invade the south and "beat it into submission"
> through warfare in the deadliest war experienced
> by the populace of our land.
>
> I believe Robert E. Lee was a decent man.
>
> The issue of slavery would have been resolved
> without 800,000 lives lost to war.
>
> Lincoln, the "hero" or the "Tyrant"?
> What say ye?

He was faced with armed insurrection. He broke some rules combating this insurrection, we have not even mentioned things like suspension of habeas corpus yet. And in the end he preserved the Union and made life in America as we know it possible.

He was probably both.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Abe invented Lincoln Logs ()
Date: May 16, 2019 11:16PM

RE Lee never invented any toys. Although his sister Sarah did in fact create some tasty confections.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Give Lee some credit ()
Date: May 17, 2019 07:48AM

He would have agreed that the statues of confederate heroes have no place in our public square. I'll give him credit for that.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: we want demons ()
Date: May 17, 2019 08:54AM

Not a traitor Wrote:
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> He could not turn his back on his own people of
> Virginia. He defended his home state and his
> country. After the war, Lee wanted reconciliation
> between North and South. A woman complained to him
> about a tree destroyed on her property by the
> Yankees. His response was "Cut it down, and forget
> it!". God Bless General Robert E. Lee !

A former slave of his said Lee was "the cruelest man" she ever knew. She was a great character witness because she actually knew him for a good period of her life, unlike a bloated, uneducated, unmarried, bigoted, underemployed, and demon seeing asshole from Richmond.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: general generalisation ... ()
Date: May 17, 2019 09:24AM

The single biggest cost to making a product always been, and always will be the physical labor. The war of northern aggression started in 1861. Within 10 years of then machines would have replaced a great deal of the physical labor on farms. Had the formation of the CSA been a successful endeavor, slavery would have faded out just on economics alone. Which brings up another point, slaves were not cheap. As such a vast majority(less than %30 actually owned a slave) of southerners did not abuse their slaves as socialist revisionists would have you believe.

I'm not defending slavery. The practice has existed since the dawn of man, and is still alive and well in moozie countries, which by the way have enslaved just as many caucasions as they have blacks over the centuries. If you really have a problem with the practice of enslaving your fellow man you should be talking about punishing muslim/islam for continuing the practice to this day.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: wordsmith at work ()
Date: May 17, 2019 11:27AM

general generalisation ... Wrote:
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> The single biggest cost to making a product always
> been, and always will be the physical labor. The
> war of northern aggression started in 1861.
> Within 10 years of then machines would have
> replaced a great deal of the physical labor on
> farms. Had the formation of the CSA been a
> successful endeavor, slavery would have faded out
> just on economics alone. Which brings up another
> point, slaves were not cheap. As such a vast
> majority(less than %30 actually owned a slave) of
> southerners did not abuse their slaves as
> socialist revisionists would have you believe.
>
> I'm not defending slavery. The practice has
> existed since the dawn of man, and is still alive
> and well in moozie countries, which by the way
> have enslaved just as many caucasions as they have
> blacks over the centuries. If you really have a
> problem with the practice of enslaving your fellow
> man you should be talking about punishing
> muslim/islam for continuing the practice to this
> day.


This post contains more fallacies then I care to count. It is an appeal by the stupid, for the stupid. A well educated person you have proven not to be.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: wordsmith at work ()
Date: May 17, 2019 11:29AM

This post contains more fallacies then I care to count.

Than, I meant damn spellcheck.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: his friends called him ()
Date: May 17, 2019 11:31AM

Bobby Lee

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Always on your mind ()
Date: May 17, 2019 12:11PM

wordsmith at work Wrote:
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> This post contains more fallacies then I care to
> count.
>
> Than, I meant damn spellcheck.


Of course, it is fallacy ridden. It is a fucking Meade post.


If a slave had Meade's work ethic, he would be whipped to death before his 14th birthday.

Being born white is the one thing Meade couldn't fuck up. That is why he makes such a fuss over it,
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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: extream LoLz ()
Date: May 17, 2019 12:14PM

your post is so wrong that I'm too stupid to refute it

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Gen Lee ()
Date: May 17, 2019 12:31PM

Lee is the reason the South lost the war. A total asshole who couldn't control his troops.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Marse Robert ()
Date: May 17, 2019 12:43PM

Gen Lee Wrote:
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> Lee is the reason the South lost the war. A total
> asshole who couldn't control his troops.

There is some truth to this. Lee had way too much faith in himself, and his troops. His best option was to fight a defensive war, but twice, while enjoying positions of relative strength, he decided to try to end the war all at once by invading the north. He failed, both times, and squandered resources (his men) that he would need later.

He had a pretty good run of it in 1862 and the first half of 1863, but that was more Union incompetence than anything. In reality, Grant and Sherman were better generals, and even Joe Johnston was better a fighting the war that the Civil War would become after Gettysburg

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Rot in Hell Sherman ()
Date: May 17, 2019 02:36PM

Marse Robert Wrote:
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> Gen Lee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lee is the reason the South lost the war. A
> total
> > asshole who couldn't control his troops.
>
> There is some truth to this. Lee had way too much
> faith in himself, and his troops. His best option
> was to fight a defensive war, but twice, while
> enjoying positions of relative strength, he
> decided to try to end the war all at once by
> invading the north. He failed, both times, and
> squandered resources (his men) that he would need
> later.
>
> He had a pretty good run of it in 1862 and the
> first half of 1863, but that was more Union
> incompetence than anything. In reality, Grant and
> Sherman were better generals, and even Joe
> Johnston was better a fighting the war that the
> Civil War would become after Gettysburg

Grant and Sherman were low life drunks/mass murderers. Like most libtards, they didn't really care about people, only pretended. And you know they didn't care about Negro slaves either. Just like libtard Lincoln.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: gut instinct says ()
Date: May 17, 2019 02:41PM

look into his eyes on pictures. Those eyes don't lie. He was a good man. I see a smart compassionate wise and loyal person.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Meade ruins everything ()
Date: May 17, 2019 03:02PM

gut instinct says Wrote:
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> look into his eyes on pictures. Those eyes don't
> lie. He was a good man. I see a smart
> compassionate wise and loyal person.


Meade, how has that 'gut instinct' been working for you?
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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Grant+Sherman>Johnston & Bragg ()
Date: May 17, 2019 05:20PM

Marse Robert Wrote:
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> There is some truth to this. Lee had way too much
> faith in himself, and his troops. His best option
> was to fight a defensive war, but twice, while
> enjoying positions of relative strength, he
> decided to try to end the war all at once by
> invading the north. He failed, both times, and
> squandered resources (his men) that he would need
> later.

Both of Lee's invasions of the north started out well. The first time he wiped out the Federal garrison of Harper's Ferry and was able to cut one of the four trunk lines between the east coast and the midwest and forced the Federals to strip their troops from what is now West Virginia. The second time he decimated the Federal forces in the lower Shenandoah Valley, cut two trunk lines between the east coast and midwest and then decimated two Federal corps on the first day of Gettysburg. What Lee forgot was that when he was operating in Virginia he could rely on the local population for information about the enemy. Once he moved north of the Potomac the situation was reversed. It was the Federals who were able to get information from the population about Lee, while Lee could only find out what the Federals were doing when they were actually in contact with his forces. During both Antietam and Gettysburg Federal forces were able to move far more quickly than Lee anticipated because of this information advantage.

Even if Lee had played it safer, husbanding his resources, those additional resources would not have made a difference in the outcome of the war. The Civil War was won in the west. Fall of 1861 saw the Confederate Army that would become known as the Army of Tennessee in Columbus and Bowling Green Kentucky. In April of 1865 what was left of that army was in central North Carolina.

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Re: Robert E. Lee was a great man!
Posted by: Sherman did south a favor ()
Date: May 19, 2019 12:11AM

urban renewal at its finest. And has the south ever once said 'thanks'?

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