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already written
Posted by: hey jegus freaks ()
Date: April 12, 2019 11:47AM

So, what I've been taught is that jegus is all seeing...basically, she has seen the past, present, and FUTURE.

I've also seen it described by some jegus freaks that she basically has "written" the story of your life...she has created everybody and has pre-ordained (or whatever the cool jegus term might be) the story of everyone's life...from conception, to birth, to life, to death.

No accidents, no surprises, nothing that hasn't been planned by dear sweet jegus.

Then where do abortions fit in?

Since ol jegus planned them, why are they a sin?

And, if maybe someone was thinking about having an abortion, but then didn't, would that go against ol jegus' plan?

Like, shoot...I planned for that kid to get aborted...then, the mother changed her mind at the end...now what do I do?

And of course, if somebody does have an abortion, wasn't that just per jegus' plan for everybody?

Because, as you guys say, he has written the story of EVERYBODY'S life...past, present, and future.

jegus babble in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

jegus babble includes...1. Not answering the question 2. turning the question back without an answer

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Posted by: Educate Yourself ()
Date: April 12, 2019 12:09PM

2 Corinthians 4: 14- 5: 1
A Reading from the Second Letter of Paul to the Corinthians
Brothers and Sisters:
Knowing that the one who raised the Lord Jesus
will raise us also with Jesus
and place us with you in his presence.
Everything indeed is for you,
so that the grace bestowed in abundance
on more and more people
may cause the thanksgiving to overflow
for the glory of God.
Therefore, we are not discouraged;
rather, although our outer self is wasting away,
our inner self is being renewed day by day.
For this momentary light affliction
is producing for us an eternal weight of glory
beyond all comparison, as we look not to what is seen
but to what is unseen; for what is seen is transitory,
but what is unseen is eternal.
For we know that if our earthly dwelling, a tent,
should be destroyed, we have a building from God,
a dwelling not made with hands, eternal in heaven.
The Word of the Lord

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Re: already written
Posted by: I knew it!!!!! ()
Date: April 12, 2019 12:13PM

hahahaha I knew it!

as I said, jegus babble includes "turning the question back" as in, "Educate Yourself".

And then, no real answer to the question, just some stupid babble...

Ha!

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Re: already written
Posted by: wutfer ()
Date: April 12, 2019 12:15PM

A reading from the second letter of paul to the corinthians...

Is that the one for weddings, or funerals?

Or bof?

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Re: already written
Posted by: more babble ()
Date: April 12, 2019 12:20PM

Dueteronomy 1 2 and 3 are beauts as well...

like, if your weiner gets cut off in war, you can't enter the kingdom of heaven.

If you are an 10th generation bastard...like, 10 grandparents ago...the same.

No kingdom of heaven.

Jegus babblers have a real good time with that one...all the jegus babble comes out.

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Re: already written
Posted by: answer for ya ()
Date: April 12, 2019 03:28PM

I googled it.

Some guy was trying to illustrate that even though god knows everything, including the future, that even though, there is still "free will" in making a decision tomorrow.

To illustrate, he said if he put either a 1. bowl of tasty cereal, or 2. a bowl of stinking dead mice in front of his child, he, as the parent knows that his child will pick the bowl of cereal over the dead mice, but it is still his child making the choice.

You see?

Isn't it simple?

Or is it frickin stupid?

Do you think the analogy of a child picking tasty cereal over dead mice as a comparison to free will is about as good as you'll get, folks?

Is it not even bible babble...is it just babble babble?

Of course, this doesn't contemplate what happens if you put two bowls of different tasty cereal in front of the kid...just as many christian "miracles" don't include things like, say, a guys leg growing back.

Only reasonable miracles!

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Re: already written
Posted by: A little advise ()
Date: April 12, 2019 05:00PM

Get yourself a Bible and visit a Church wear you can get the help you need. If you still have questions after that we'll be here for you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: spellur ()
Date: April 12, 2019 05:33PM

Get yourself a dictionary.

Jegus babble 101-turn the question back, don't answer anything.

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Re: already written
Posted by: do whut ()
Date: April 12, 2019 05:55PM

who is jegus?

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Re: already written
Posted by: Go to the lite ()
Date: April 12, 2019 06:44PM

If your really looking for the questions, you know where to look. If your looking for help, it's all around you. Just let us know.

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Re: already written
Posted by: little helper ()
Date: April 12, 2019 09:34PM

Are you looking for help spelling?

It's all around you.

Just let us know.

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Re: already written
Posted by: notice he spell Jesus a little f ()
Date: April 12, 2019 11:34PM

I think what he's looking for as spiritual help, but I guess we could all use some spelling tips!

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Re: already written
Posted by: Boo fn hoo ()
Date: April 12, 2019 11:35PM

What is jegus?

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Re: already written
Posted by: whatafukinheaten ()
Date: April 12, 2019 11:37PM

I knew it!!!!! Wrote:
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> hahahaha I knew it!
>
> as I said, jegus babble includes "turning the
> question back" as in, "Educate Yourself".
>
> And then, no real answer to the question, just
> some stupid babble...
>
> Ha!


So your intent is to troll and not learn. Noted.

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Re: already written
Posted by: luv some jc ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:34AM

I love it...referring back to the original post.

Nobody gets on and deals with the issue...

They just bounce back to the poster...kinda like "I'm rubber, you're glue"...

Jegus babble 101. Make personal attacks, selectively quote from the bible, etc,

Is that what jegus would do, or would he answer?

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Re: already written
Posted by: K6lgd ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:59AM

Obviously the op just wants to taunt Christians into acting unchristainly.

The New Testament is readily available to everyone on this forum. Open your mind and read it.

Yes, educate yourself. Acknowledge your mind, body, and soul. No one else can do that for you: that is exercising your free will.

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Re: already written
Posted by: ye verily ()
Date: April 13, 2019 11:22AM

bla bla bla.

I love how you "know" what the OP wants to do...

Perhaps he/she would sincerely like a discussion about pre-destination?

After all, it seems he/she put forth a few discussion points to do so.

But, like any bible thumper, the response is to avoid the topic, tell the person to read and understand the bible (huh?) and then, try and discredit the person for asking questions. and for raising real logical issues.

AKA, bible babble.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Gkekw ()
Date: April 13, 2019 11:43AM

It doesnt take heavenly intervention to see that each of your posts is condescending and ugly in tone and not inquisitive in nature. You are exercising your free will, and that is fine.

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Re: already written
Posted by: keeps coming ()
Date: April 13, 2019 03:24PM

bla bla bla...

Right back at me, huh? What a jerk I am, right?

Not even an attempt at an answer.

bible babble.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Some thoughts ()
Date: April 13, 2019 03:59PM

If you really want to get help and learn about the Bible then you really should try going and visit some churches. I suggest Christian churches as the catholic ones can stray quiet far from scripture. But I think besides that you will find many people on hear happy to answer your questions and help explain pretty much what ever you need. Hey, no need to thank us, that's what were supposed to do!

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Re: already written
Posted by: P6v9w ()
Date: April 13, 2019 04:03PM

No answer given will be satisfactory to you. Spiritual answers are not mathematical equations or grammar rules - you cant google the answer or get it from someone else.

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Re: already written
Posted by: i'll buy that for a dollar ()
Date: April 13, 2019 04:11PM

P6v9w Wrote:
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> No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> Spiritual answers are not mathematical equations
> or grammar rules - you cant google the answer or
> get it from someone else.


The reason it can't be googled is it has all is all been made up anyway. Only the retarded Believe a 2ooo-year-old book of myth, legend, and superstition has some sort of factual value.

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Posted by: No not really ()
Date: April 13, 2019 04:30PM

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Attachments:
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Re: already written
Posted by: Vmmty ()
Date: April 13, 2019 04:47PM

i'll buy that for a dollar Wrote:
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> P6v9w Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> > Spiritual answers are not mathematical
> equations
> > or grammar rules - you cant google the answer
> or
> > get it from someone else.
>
>
> The reason it can't be googled is it has all is
> all been made up anyway. Only the retarded Believe
> a 2ooo-year-old book of myth, legend, and
> superstition has some sort of factual value.

Free will, baby, free will.

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Posted by: United Methodist ()
Date: April 13, 2019 05:14PM

The thing about Church is it's really fun. You always learn new things and you can meet very cool people, many have gone thru the same stuff you have and even worst. But that's the thing about Jesus, no matter what you have done or how low you have sank everyone can be redeemed in the Lord.

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Re: already written
Posted by: german ()
Date: April 13, 2019 09:18PM

I hear tell even Hitler could go to heaven, if right at the end, he accepted jesus.

Anne Frank, not so much. Unless she too accepted jesus.

At least that is what jesus people believe.

wow.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Beautiful Truth ()
Date: April 13, 2019 09:58PM

Everyone can go to Heaven. With Jesus on your side, anything is possible.

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Re: already written
Posted by: more more more ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:02PM

P6v9w Wrote:
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> No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> Spiritual answers are not mathematical equations
> or grammar rules - you cant google the answer or
> get it from someone else.

Well, then why do people study it, and "believe" it, if it all really doesn't make any sense?

Why not just go with any made up stuff?

Why follow organized religion?

bible babble.

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Posted by: Ok, then ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:03PM

Beautiful Truth Wrote:
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> Everyone can go to Heaven. With Jesus on your
> side, anything is possible.


What happens if you don't believe in jesus, but otherwise live a good and charitable life?

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Posted by: Beautiful Truth ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:07PM

more more more Wrote:
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> P6v9w Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> > Spiritual answers are not mathematical
> equations
> > or grammar rules - you cant google the answer
> or
> > get it from someone else.
>
> Well, then why do people study it, and "believe"
> it, if it all really doesn't make any sense?
>
> Why not just go with any made up stuff?
>
> Why follow organized religion?
>
> bible babble.


It actually makes perfect sense. Some might say its the only thing that makes any sense. What part are you confused about?

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Posted by: keeps on a comin ()
Date: April 13, 2019 10:51PM

Not confused about anything, thank you.

Some might say its the only thing that makes any sense, huh?

Some also followed Jim Jones and thought he made perfect sense as well.

Just more bible babble. Not answering any questions or describing things logically, and turning it back at the person with babble.

Bible babble.

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Posted by: Who gives a shit ()
Date: April 14, 2019 01:30AM

Ok, then Wrote:
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> Beautiful Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Everyone can go to Heaven. With Jesus on your
> > side, anything is possible.
>
>
> What happens if you don't believe in jesus, but
> otherwise live a good and charitable life?


Yes, one can live a good charitable life without believing in Jesus.

People's actions towards others are more important than their religious beliefs,

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Re: already written
Posted by: X4t4f ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:26AM

Said "who gives a shit" at 1:30 a.m.


Heres what Christ said:

1. Love God and his will, life is not all about you
2. Love your neighbor

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Re: already written
Posted by: Hcun3 ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:37AM

more more more Wrote:
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> P6v9w Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> > Spiritual answers are not mathematical
> equations
> > or grammar rules - you cant google the answer
> or
> > get it from someone else.
>
> Well, then why do people study it, and "believe"
> it, if it all really doesn't make any sense?
>
> Why not just go with any made up stuff?
>
> Why follow organized religion?
>
> bible babble.

It is about understanding your own soul not someone else's physics theory; only you can do that.

It is not about studying so you can remember, it is studying so you better understand your own soul, purpose and relationship with others.

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Posted by: good one! ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:39AM

Who gives a shit Wrote:
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> Ok, then Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Beautiful Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Everyone can go to Heaven. With Jesus on
> your
> > > side, anything is possible.
> >
> >
> > What happens if you don't believe in jesus, but
> > otherwise live a good and charitable life?
>
>
> Yes, one can live a good charitable life without
> believing in Jesus.
>
> People's actions towards others are more important
> than their religious beliefs,


HaHa..great example of bible babble!!!

Way to go...avoiding a clear question!!!!

Which is...if one does not believe in dear sweet jesus, but, still live a charitable and good life, can they go to heaven?

Try and answer the question, no more babble.

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Re: already written
Posted by: more of it ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:42AM

Hcun3 Wrote:
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> more more more Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > P6v9w Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > No answer given will be satisfactory to you.
> > > Spiritual answers are not mathematical
> > equations
> > > or grammar rules - you cant google the answer
> > or
> > > get it from someone else.
> >
> > Well, then why do people study it, and
> "believe"
> > it, if it all really doesn't make any sense?
> >
> > Why not just go with any made up stuff?
> >
> > Why follow organized religion?
> >
> > bible babble.
>
> It is about understanding your own soul not
> someone else's physics theory; only you can do
> that.
>
> It is not about studying so you can remember, it
> is studying so you better understand your own
> soul, purpose and relationship with others.

Yet, you still believe in jesus, and, a set of man made rules?

Why not just be a good person, behave well towards others, without the "promise" of going to heaven if you do so?

And who said anything about "studying so you can remember" And "someone else's physics theory" except you? Why introduce that stuff when the OP didn't ask that?

I know...'cause it's bible babble!!!

Yay!

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Re: already written
Posted by: V9wwu ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:13AM

Who defines "good"?

Killing a child right before it takes its first breath is good to some people.

Throwing gays from rooftops is good to some people.

Chopping off heads of Christians is good to some people.

Raping and enslaving is good to some people.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Bylcu ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:22AM

> And who said anything about "studying so you can remember" And
> "someone else's physics theory" except you? Why introduce that
> stuff when the OP didn't ask that?

> I know...'cause it's bible babble!!!

The reason that example was used was a direct response to your question, in an attempt to help you understand. You asked

> Well, then why do people study it, and "believe" it, if it all
> really doesn't make any sense?

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Posted by: because it's ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:26AM

Bylcu Wrote:
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> > And who said anything about "studying so you can
> remember" And
> > "someone else's physics theory" except you? Why
> introduce that
> > stuff when the OP didn't ask that?
>
> > I know...'cause it's bible babble!!!
>
> The reason that example was used was a direct
> response to your question, in an attempt to help
> you understand. You asked
>
> > Well, then why do people study it, and "believe"
> it, if it all
> > really doesn't make any sense?


A whole bunch of other things have been asked, as well, that get to the essence of the matter.

Which you choose to avoid, and then start talking about things like...

"Studying to remember", which doesn't really answer anything asked, and, "studying to remember", same.

which is a great example of bible babble!

Just complicate the s*** out of things, change the subject, add layers of BS, etc...

you know, bible babble!

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Posted by: confucios say ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:29AM

Bylcu Wrote:
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> > And who said anything about "studying so you can
> remember" And
> > "someone else's physics theory" except you? Why
> introduce that
> > stuff when the OP didn't ask that?
>
> > I know...'cause it's bible babble!!!
>
> The reason that example was used was a direct
> response to your question, in an attempt to help
> you understand. You asked
>
> > Well, then why do people study it, and "believe"
> it, if it all
> > really doesn't make any sense?


Dude, you add a bunch of esoteric stuff, instead of getting to the heart of the matter...you really believe in a fictional guy with a beard?

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Re: already written
Posted by: W7bu6 ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:33AM

If you refuse to acknowledge your soul, that is your free will choice.

It is not complicated, and that is the essence of the matter.

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Posted by: Ebdfc ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:38AM

> the heart of the matter...
> you really believe in a fictional guy with a beard?

That is not the heart of the matter. The fictional guy lived. Teachings attributed to him were documented. I study them. It is good with my soul.

Choose for yourself.

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Re: already written
Posted by: ok ok ()
Date: April 14, 2019 12:04PM

You tire me out.

No, bible babble tires me out.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Paul. ()
Date: April 14, 2019 01:38PM

german Wrote:
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> I hear tell even Hitler could go to heaven, if
> right at the end, he accepted jesus.
>
> Anne Frank, not so much. Unless she too accepted
> jesus.
>
> At least that is what jesus people believe.
>
> wow.

Not necessarily. Many Christians do believe that Jesus died for the sins of all men (mankind), salvation is universal, and that for example Jews and Buddhists can go to heaven. In fact it's obvious to many Christians that people who died in ancient times or non-human beings would be entitled to the same message and salvation.

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Posted by: which way is it ()
Date: April 14, 2019 02:14PM

So, "many" christians believe it?

I guess that would mean that many, at least some, do not believe it.

So, is the whole deal with christianity you just kinda believe what you want?

Just call yourself a christian, but really, no codified beliefs?

Hmmm...

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Re: already written
Posted by: D7hlv ()
Date: April 14, 2019 02:31PM

Largely correct - share in that they read and study the New Testament and share the belief that Christ knew what he was talking about.

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Re: already written
Posted by: You just realized this?? ()
Date: April 14, 2019 02:34PM

which way is it Wrote:
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> So, "many" christians believe it?
>
> I guess that would mean that many, at least some,
> do not believe it.
>
> So, is the whole deal with christianity you just
> kinda believe what you want?
>
> Just call yourself a christian, but really, no
> codified beliefs?
>
> Hmmm...

That's the way humans are. Everyone has his or her own brain and set of beliefs. There will never be 100% agreement on anything, let alone religion and theology.

Essentially the codified belief to be a Christian is a single verse: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

It's pretty simple actually, as it must be.

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Posted by: Fth4k ()
Date: April 14, 2019 02:49PM

And mankind, being what it is, debates what the words mean and then likeminded people decide to read and pray together and sometimes declare rules around beliefs and acceptable behavior. Thats why there are different churches.

And sometimes evil, manipulative people come on the scene and steal or abuse. But that's the doings of evil people, not Christ.

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Posted by: Emh6y ()
Date: April 14, 2019 02:59PM

I dont think it works this way, "I want everlasting life, so I will say I am Christian.".

I think it works this way, "Christ taught lessons, I truly want to understand them. " Then through our honest attempts to understand, we come closer to God, wish for His will to be done, wish for our lives to be used for good, wish well for our neighbors, and love for Christ takes over.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Romans 15:13 ()
Date: April 14, 2019 03:00PM

which way is it Wrote:
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> So, "many" christians believe it?
>
> I guess that would mean that many, at least some,
> do not believe it.
>
> So, is the whole deal with christianity you just
> kinda believe what you want?
>
> Just call yourself a christian, but really, no
> codified beliefs?
>
> Hmmm...


Your asking the right questions. Now you just have to find the right answers. That's definately stuff you should talk to a Pastor about.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Yhtjl ()
Date: April 14, 2019 03:12PM

Or just read it. Jefferson was turned off by organized religion, too. He compiled "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth" by cutting and pasting with a razor and glue numerous sections from the New Testament. It was his way of studying the doctrine of Jesus.


Referring to the 1804 version, Jefferson wrote, "A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

Jefferson's claim to be a Christian was made in response to those who accused him of being otherwise, due to his unorthodox view of the Bible and conception of Christ. Recognizing his rather unusual views, Jefferson stated in a letter (1819) to Ezra Stiles Ely, "You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know."

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Posted by: no thanks ()
Date: April 14, 2019 06:14PM

Romans 15:13 Wrote:
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> which way is it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, "many" christians believe it?
> >
> > I guess that would mean that many, at least
> some,
> > do not believe it.
> >
> > So, is the whole deal with christianity you
> just
> > kinda believe what you want?
> >
> > Just call yourself a christian, but really, no
> > codified beliefs?
> >
> > Hmmm...
>
>
> Your asking the right questions. Now you just
> have to find the right answers. That's definately
> stuff you should talk to a Pastor about.


Nah.

I don't feel like getting buggered.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Your choice ()
Date: April 14, 2019 06:28PM

no thanks Wrote:
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> Romans 15:13 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > which way is it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So, "many" christians believe it?
> > >
> > > I guess that would mean that many, at least
> > some,
> > > do not believe it.
> > >
> > > So, is the whole deal with christianity you
> > just
> > > kinda believe what you want?
> > >
> > > Just call yourself a christian, but really,
> no
> > > codified beliefs?
> > >
> > > Hmmm...
> >
> >
> > Your asking the right questions. Now you just
> > have to find the right answers. That's
> definately
> > stuff you should talk to a Pastor about.
>
>
> Nah.
>
> I don't feel like getting buggered.

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Revelation 3:20)

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Posted by: pointing out the obvious ()
Date: April 14, 2019 06:42PM

If these spaghetti monster believers really wanted to learn about things they don't understand, they would open their ears and actually listen. As it is, they are nothing but trolls.

If one were to read about the amount of archeology that confirms large parts of the bible are at least plausible, one would be a little more open minded about the greater possibilities. It's not just archeology in and around Judea either. The ancient city of Troy was found by using clues left in the bible.

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Posted by: OK, I'll play ()
Date: April 14, 2019 06:47PM

Tell me more about how two of EVERY species was loaded up on the ark and kept alive?

There are over 100 different species of rattlesnakes, like, 500 different beetles...and untold birds.

Wouldn't the lions eat the bunny rabbits? Would not ONE animal get sick, and then the species die off?

Do you know how ridiculous the story of the ark is when viewed practically?


Oh, please, do tell.

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Posted by: ...... ()
Date: April 14, 2019 06:53PM

OK, I'll play Wrote:
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> Tell me more about how two of EVERY species was
> loaded up on the ark and kept alive?
>
> There are over 100 different species of
> rattlesnakes, like, 500 different beetles...and
> untold birds.
>
> Wouldn't the lions eat the bunny rabbits? Would
> not ONE animal get sick, and then the species die
> off?
>
> Do you know how ridiculous the story of the ark is
> when viewed practically?
>
>
> Oh, please, do tell.


It's obvious you refuse to even recognize any of it. You are a waste of time.

I will tell you the Bible is two books, not one. These fucking stupid questions you are trolling with all reference the Old Testament. If you truely want to learn, first learn the difference between Old and New. Google is your friend. Until you want to learn that, you are hopeless.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Arks R Us ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:16PM

OK, I'll play Wrote:
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> Tell me more about how two of EVERY species was
> loaded up on the ark and kept alive?
>
> There are over 100 different species of
> rattlesnakes, like, 500 different beetles...and
> untold birds.
>
> Wouldn't the lions eat the bunny rabbits? Would
> not ONE animal get sick, and then the species die
> off?
>
> Do you know how ridiculous the story of the ark is
> when viewed practically?
>
>
> Oh, please, do tell.

If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of dollars being spent on similar such efforts today, all over the world?

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Re: already written
Posted by: oh golly ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:18PM

Billions of dollars are being spent to build more arks to hold two of every animal species all over the world?

Tell me one.

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Re: already written
Posted by: what the fuck is wrong with you? ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:18PM

Arks R Us Wrote:

> If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of dollars
> being spent on similar such efforts today, all
> over the world?

Would you kindly cite a reference?

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Re: already written
Posted by: Noah ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:50PM

what the fuck is wrong with you? Wrote:
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> Arks R Us Wrote:
>
> > If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of
> dollars
> > being spent on similar such efforts today, all
> > over the world?
>
> Would you kindly cite a reference?

https://www.frozenark.org/

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/may/animal-dna-to-be-frozen-in-huge-national-bank.html

https://nationalzoo.si.edu/center-for-species-survival/cryo-initiative


Also being done for plants:

https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global-seed-vault/

https://www.agprofessional.com/article/update-worlds-15-largest-seed-banks


Furthermore there have been proposals to create an Ark on the Moon, Mars, or Asteroids to preserve species in the event of global disaster affecting the Earth. Elon Musk has mentioned such a project, but I need to find a link.

https://www.space.com/329-noah-cosmic-ark-preserving-dna-moon.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-launched-second-secret-payload-designed-last-millions-years-tesla-arch
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/2/6/16980538/spacex-falcon-heavy-isaac-asimovs-foundation-series

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Re: already written
Posted by: whatafukindumbshit ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:54PM

Noah Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> what the fuck is wrong with you? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arks R Us Wrote:
> >
> > > If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of
> > dollars
> > > being spent on similar such efforts today,
> all
> > > over the world?
> >
> > Would you kindly cite a reference?
>
> https://www.frozenark.org/
>
> http://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/may/animal
> -dna-to-be-frozen-in-huge-national-bank.html
>
> https://nationalzoo.si.edu/center-for-species-surv
> ival/cryo-initiative
>
>
> Also being done for plants:
>
> https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global
> -seed-vault/
>
> https://www.agprofessional.com/article/update-worl
> ds-15-largest-seed-banks
>
>
> Furthermore there have been proposals to create an
> Ark on the Moon, Mars, or Asteroids to preserve
> species in the event of global disaster affecting
> the Earth. Elon Musk has mentioned such a
> project, but I need to find a link.
>
> https://www.space.com/329-noah-cosmic-ark-preservi
> ng-dna-moon.html
> https://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-launched-secon
> d-secret-payload-designed-last-millions-years-tesl
> a-arch
> https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/2/6/16980538/sp
> acex-falcon-heavy-isaac-asimovs-foundation-series

are you really comparing all of those to the bible? I thought you were just being an idiot with this thread, but you truely are that. fucking. stupid.

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Re: already written
Posted by: call Giorgio A. Tsoukalos ()
Date: April 14, 2019 07:59PM

Noah Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> what the fuck is wrong with you? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arks R Us Wrote:
> >
> > > If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of
> > dollars
> > > being spent on similar such efforts today,
> all
> > > over the world?
> >
> > Would you kindly cite a reference?
>
> https://www.frozenark.org/
>
> http://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/may/animal
> -dna-to-be-frozen-in-huge-national-bank.html
>
> https://nationalzoo.si.edu/center-for-species-surv
> ival/cryo-initiative
>
>
> Also being done for plants:
>
> https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global
> -seed-vault/
>
> https://www.agprofessional.com/article/update-worl
> ds-15-largest-seed-banks
>
>
> Furthermore there have been proposals to create an
> Ark on the Moon, Mars, or Asteroids to preserve
> species in the event of global disaster affecting
> the Earth. Elon Musk has mentioned such a
> project, but I need to find a link.
>
> https://www.space.com/329-noah-cosmic-ark-preservi
> ng-dna-moon.html
> https://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-launched-secon
> d-secret-payload-designed-last-millions-years-tesl
> a-arch
> https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/2/6/16980538/sp
> acex-falcon-heavy-isaac-asimovs-foundation-series


So you want us to believe that 21st-century technology was available to Noah?

Or did the Ancient Aliens do this?
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Re: already written
Posted by: 7ev9y ()
Date: April 14, 2019 08:01PM

The OP is confusing his mind with his soul. Lots of people do that, please do not ridicule him.

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Re: already written
Posted by: aliens? ()
Date: April 14, 2019 08:19PM

call Giorgio A. Tsoukalos Wrote:
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> Noah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what the fuck is wrong with you? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Arks R Us Wrote:
> > >
> > > > If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of
> > > dollars
> > > > being spent on similar such efforts today,
> > all
> > > > over the world?
> > >
> > > Would you kindly cite a reference?
> >
> > https://www.frozenark.org/
> >
> >
> http://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/may/animal
>
> > -dna-to-be-frozen-in-huge-national-bank.html
> >
> >
> https://nationalzoo.si.edu/center-for-species-surv
>
> > ival/cryo-initiative
> >
> >
> > Also being done for plants:
> >
> >
> https://www.croptrust.org/our-work/svalbard-global
>
> > -seed-vault/
> >
> >
> https://www.agprofessional.com/article/update-worl
>
> > ds-15-largest-seed-banks
> >
> >
> > Furthermore there have been proposals to create
> an
> > Ark on the Moon, Mars, or Asteroids to preserve
> > species in the event of global disaster
> affecting
> > the Earth. Elon Musk has mentioned such a
> > project, but I need to find a link.
> >
> >
> https://www.space.com/329-noah-cosmic-ark-preservi
>
> > ng-dna-moon.html
> >
> https://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-launched-secon
>
> >
> d-secret-payload-designed-last-millions-years-tesl
>
> > a-arch
> >
> https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2018/2/6/16980538/sp
>
> >
> acex-falcon-heavy-isaac-asimovs-foundation-series
>
>
> So you want us to believe that 21st-century
> technology was available to Noah?
>
> Or did the Ancient Aliens do this?

The flood was at least 7,000 years ago and we have little knowledge of the details of what Noah or Utnapishtim or whoever did to save species other than what has been handed down stories and ancient texts.

The modern efforts are focused on a longer term with no specific brewing rainstorm in mind.

I suppose one could just as easily invoke aliens now as then. Perhaps aliens are advising the Frozen Ark Project?

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Re: already written
Posted by: hits keep comin' ()
Date: April 14, 2019 08:59PM

7ev9y Wrote:
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> The OP is confusing his mind with his soul. Lots
> of people do that, please do not ridicule him.


See, that's just more bible babble.

Attacking the person with a non-sensical statement...to avoid the real issue, which is, you believe in a myth.

What gives you the idea someone is "confusing his mind with his soul"?

Nothing.

And what does that mean?

Nothing.

Just more bible babble.

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Re: already written
Posted by: never never cash down ()
Date: April 14, 2019 08:59PM

aliens? Wrote:

>
> The modern efforts are focused on a longer term
> with no specific brewing rainstorm in mind.
>
> I suppose one could just as easily invoke aliens
> now as then. Perhaps aliens are advising the
> Frozen Ark Project?


That was the point.

The original statement in question was about building the Ark in Noah's alleged era.

""" If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of dollars
being spent on similar such efforts today, all
over the world?"""

As it turns out, they are not spending billions on recreating what Noah was said to have done. They are spending billions of dollars doing something else entirely.

Members of the Cross People cult (Christians) are always have something basically wrong with their logic. They have to, they believe in that shit.

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Re: already written
Posted by: keep it comin ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:05PM

And then some weirdo gets on here claiming that there are billion dollar recreations of the ark all over the place...

Wow...

Even today...with all the technology and science available...it would be IMPOSSIBLE to round up two of every species (like, 10,000 different beetles) and propagate them in a controlled environment...much less a wooden boat splashing about on the ocean.


Have you ever seen what happens when dogs are inbred for a couple of generations?

Not good. Not life affirming.

But...EVERY single animal alive today was born of the same parent like 6,000 years ago? And those animals were captured and survived on a wooden boat splashing around on the sea?

C'mon...give me a break.

That's just stupid.

But of course, bible babble saves the day!!

Attack the OP! Poor soul! Confusing this with that! Go see a pastor!!!

Maybe I should see ted haggard.

Or jim jones.

Freakin weirdos.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Xc44x ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:11PM

You are mischaracterizing "them"; "they" are not monolithic, as demonstrated by this thread.

You seem delighted to have gotten a bite in your trolling, which was presumably your aim; but it does not go unnoticed that you ignore the essentials of your soul and the definition of "good".

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Re: already written
Posted by: oh jeeezzz ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:15PM

What are you talking about?

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Re: already written
Posted by: back to the subject ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:18PM

Seriously, "Mischaracterization guy", tell me about the ark.

Just how did it work?

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Re: already written
Posted by: Nduvd ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:21PM

I am talking about your condescending rants against Christians, declaring them all illogical fools, while talking about the Bible as if it is a documentary to be "fact checked" instead of a spiritual text that has inspired people for thousands of years.

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Re: already written
Posted by: boinngggg ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:24PM

Right back atcha, pal.

Why shouldn't the bible be fact checked?

I mean, for f888 sake, you all claim to live by it...wouldn't you want it to be true?

Or, is that it?

Just parts are true...the ones you like?

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Re: already written
Posted by: more reading for you ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:38PM

Watch the documentary "jesus camp" or anything about jim jones if you really want to get the willies about not asking questions...

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Re: already written
Posted by: Tv6gn ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:38PM

"You all" is a mischaracterixation, as has been shown over and over in this thread.

If you are interested in proof of history, you need not look further than today's headlines to know proof is not possible: one headline says trump is a spy, the other says he was a victim of espionage. You're wasting your time fact checking the Bible.

The essential question, in my view, is this: do you believe you have a soul? Maybe you dont - free will decision, YOUR belief, not mine. If you dont think you have a soul, ignore religion altogether, and go get yours, baby.

But if you get off social media, and examine yourself, i think you'll find you do have a soul. And the Bible has many good teachings for the person who knows they have a soul.

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Re: already written
Posted by: oh jeezzz pt 2 ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:49PM

I love it...so, if proof is not possible (really?), that means accept the bible!

KInd of like, ahhh screw it...nothing is verifiable, therefore, let's go with this story of jesus.

But, get real pissed off when people ask specifics about it, claim they have no soul, but by no means, discuss their points with them!

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Re: already written
Posted by: and back to YOU ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:55PM

And why don't you get off social media yourself?

Besides this FFXU, which I'm not sure is social media.

Do you have a soul? really? How many ghosts have you seen?

Before my dad died, he told me, if at all possible, he would come back and "ghost" me within a year...going on 20 yrs now.

Do you know how many people have died over the ages? Millions upon millions. And not once has someone verifiably seen a ghost. Except for crackpots.

You are a condescending person.

Religion has been the cause of wars, of famines, of molestation...and, I myself, consider myself a charitable person, involved with charities, giving to charities, being fair, WITHOUT fooling myself with the "promise" of heaven.

Who is the better person now?

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Re: already written
Posted by: Md9be ()
Date: April 14, 2019 09:55PM

I think you and I are similar, OP, but I may be wrong: I want the truth, I am extraordinarily logical. I questioned the "Jesus thing" in my youth. Who the heck thinks surrender is victory for crying out loud?!? And the ark thing makes little sense.

I examined many religions, rebelled and argued. Then i took a New Testament class, and I read and contemplated and read and contemplated. In my view, ideas attributed to Christ are consistent and true, and they are helpful to me in understanding myself, my soul, others, and the world.

Spiritual questions simply cannot be answered by anyone but you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Cdpyx ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:05PM

And I dont believe i am a better person than you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: OK, here's something ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:08PM

The problem is, nearly every one who claims to be "religious" or "spiritual" is doing it for temporal reasons, or, at a minimum, they expect to be given a pass by everyone, because they are "such a spiritual person".

Admit it. Deep down inside you KNOW it.

Or, keep you "spiritualism" to yourself, and impress others merely by deeds.

Be a good person. Don't tell me about it. If you need "spiritualism" to guide you in being a good person, so be it...but keep it to yourself.

I certainly don't need "spiritualism" to guide me in being a good person, nor do I seek reward, either temporal of everlasting, for doing so.

Also, understand...just how much EVIL is visited upon the world in the name of religion and god seeking..,.and, again, how much people expect and get a pass in the name of their "spirituality".

And also admit to bible babble. Answer nothing...confuse...obfuscate...tell the person to see a pastor...etc...etc...

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Re: already written
Posted by: Hwudv ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:17PM

I disagree. I have been talking with you today because you asked, not because I was proselytizing.

And Christ taught just as you say, matthew 6:

1“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: yeah verily ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:19PM

Tell me about dueteronomy...

That is a doozy!

If you want to see the world record for backpeddling...ask a "christian" about that!

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Re: already written
Posted by: Dpptv ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:34PM

You're baiting again - and hey what about this?!?

Just stop worrying about everyone else and what they believe, calm your mind, contemplate, and love others; and know you are loved.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Hbyhp ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:42PM

And I agree much evil has been perpetrated on the world in the name of religion. But it is because humans manipulate others to their own selfish benefit, sowing seeds of discontent to get others to act out of fear or greed.

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Re: already written
Posted by: what the f ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:49PM

Baiting?

You quote scripture to me, then I ask you to tell me about some other scripture?

That's baiting?

Then stop quoting scripture to me, silly goose.

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Re: already written
Posted by: and no ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:53PM

And stop worrying about everyone else?

Why would I do that?

Especially sneaky petes.

That's part of the deal...you "religious folk" want and expect a free pass, like I said...

I don't give one, as you might tell...I say everyone needs to be held accountable and stop hiding behind jesus babble.

But you know, "what a guy"...goes to church, etc...too many people expect that, and frankly, are given it.

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Re: already written
Posted by: 3pved ()
Date: April 14, 2019 10:58PM

Thank you for calling me a "silly goose" instead of a "f'ing foolish idiot". I have to go off-line now...probably until after Easter...but hope to talk with you later. May God bless you, and I hope you knpw I mean it with all sincerity.

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Re: already written
Posted by: pointing out the obvious ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:25PM

7ev9y Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The OP is confusing his mind with his soul. Lots
> of people do that, please do not ridicule him.


No. The OP is a fucking troll. It has no desire to learn, only ridicule.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Pjhpb ()
Date: April 14, 2019 11:28PM

That is not Christianly. You do not know his soul.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Ark Royal ()
Date: April 15, 2019 12:46AM

never never cash down Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> aliens? Wrote:
>
> >
> > The modern efforts are focused on a longer term
> > with no specific brewing rainstorm in mind.
> >
> > I suppose one could just as easily invoke
> aliens
> > now as then. Perhaps aliens are advising the
> > Frozen Ark Project?
>
>
> That was the point.
>
> The original statement in question was about
> building the Ark in Noah's alleged era.
>
> """ If it's so ridiculous, why are billions of
> dollars
> being spent on similar such efforts today, all
> over the world?"""
>
> As it turns out, they are not spending billions on
> recreating what Noah was said to have done. They
> are spending billions of dollars doing something
> else entirely.
>
> Members of the Cross People cult (Christians) are
> always have something basically wrong with their
> logic. They have to, they believe in that shit.

No, both the ancient and modern efforts are about preserving species during a natural disaster. Furthermore, Noah -- or Utnapishtim if you will -- built the ark thousands of years before Christ. So while the story is in the Bible, it's certainly not exclusive to Christianity.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Are you for real? ()
Date: April 15, 2019 02:10AM

Ark Royal Wrote:

>
> No, both the ancient and modern efforts are about
> preserving species during a natural disaster.
> Furthermore, Noah -- or Utnapishtim if you will --
> built the ark thousands of years before Christ.
> So while the story is in the Bible, it's certainly
> not exclusive to Christianity.

This does not address the only pertinent inquiry.
Could an Ark have been built during the alleged time of Noah?

Point to modern technology and saying, "they are researching it in the 21st century", really doesn't answer that question, now does it?

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Re: already written
Posted by: It's really quite simple ()
Date: April 15, 2019 07:12AM

God has a "pre-written" destiny/plan for your life. It is up to you whether or not you follow the plan. He gives you the path to follow with instructions in the Bible. It's up to you or not whether you follow those instructions. Being sinful is not part of God's plan for our lives. Whether you sin or not is up to you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: Boat builder ()
Date: April 15, 2019 07:46AM

Are you for real? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ark Royal Wrote:
>
> >
> > No, both the ancient and modern efforts are
> about
> > preserving species during a natural disaster.
> > Furthermore, Noah -- or Utnapishtim if you will
> --
> > built the ark thousands of years before Christ.
>
> > So while the story is in the Bible, it's
> certainly
> > not exclusive to Christianity.
>
> This does not address the only pertinent inquiry.
> Could an Ark have been built during the alleged
> time of Noah?
>
> Point to modern technology and saying, "they are
> researching it in the 21st century", really
> doesn't answer that question, now does it?

Whats so difficult about building a large wooden boat? It was certainly possible with no assistance from aliens required.

One the other hand, one can point to numerous examples of ancient construction that should not have been possible yet they exist, creating fodder for the aliens enthusiasts.

Riding in boat for a couple months with a bunch of animals is not technically unreasonable, and there is a strong tradition predating the Bible that it happened. We know there have been huge floods of Biblical proportions.

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Re: already written
Posted by: fuck him ()
Date: April 15, 2019 08:49AM

Pjhpb Wrote:
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> That is not Christianly. You do not know his soul.


the OP repeatedly intentionally mistyped Jesus, it was explained to said troll he is quoting the Old Testastment. The words of Jesus are written in red. There is no red ink in the Old Testament. The Old Testament is an attempt by people that knew very little of the world to explain how that world came to be. Even though the flood story has since been proven to likely be based on fact...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis

the OP obviously has refused the Google the difference between the Old and New Testaments while continuing to ridicule what it thinks is one book. Assholes like him are too much of a pussy to ridicule a religion that their only claim to Jerusalem is their child molesting prophet visited there in a dream, because that is the one religion on this planet today that will slit your throat for insulting them.

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Re: already written
Posted by: oh my golly ()
Date: April 15, 2019 08:50AM

"Riding in a boat for a couple of months with a bunch of animals is not technically unreasonable"

No, its not. You're right.

Riding in a boat WITH TWO OF EVERY SPECIES IN THE WORLD even for 30 seconds is one of the most ridiculous things out there.

Even more ridiculous is the notion of catching two of each, keeping them alive, and having them successfully breed and repopulate the earth with healthy, non-inbred offspring.

Stop equivocating.

Admit it...it is ridiculous.

Don't you bible folks have some mechanism you default to, like, it is just a parable and not a real story, when truth starts getting too real?

Then, probably time to use that.

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Re: already written
Posted by: ok smart guy ()
Date: April 15, 2019 08:53AM

It's really quite simple Wrote:
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> God has a "pre-written" destiny/plan for your
> life. It is up to you whether or not you follow
> the plan. He gives you the path to follow with
> instructions in the Bible. It's up to you or not
> whether you follow those instructions. Being
> sinful is not part of God's plan for our lives.
> Whether you sin or not is up to you.


So, with abortion...did god "pre-write" that the kid was going to get aborted?

Because, certainly, the kid really has no say in the matter, right?

What do those destiny/plans look like?

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Re: already written
Posted by: oh yeah? ()
Date: April 15, 2019 08:54AM

pointing out the obvious Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 7ev9y Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The OP is confusing his mind with his soul.
> Lots
> > of people do that, please do not ridicule him.
>
>
> No. The OP is a fucking troll. It has no desire to
> learn, only ridicule.

The OP has some good questions, and he basically called the response...that is, what he terms "bible babble".

More power to the OP, and shame on you.

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Re: already written
Posted by: and for real ()
Date: April 15, 2019 09:00AM

Look, if you bible experts can't stand up to some questioning, and scrutiny of some of your claims, that is your problem.

Don't get angry at OP...understand that the bible does have some pretty outrageous stuff in it.

If you don't think it does, you probably haven't read it,

Grow up, and learn how to stand up.

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Re: already written
Posted by: It's really quite simple ()
Date: April 15, 2019 09:06AM

ok smart guy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's really quite simple Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > God has a "pre-written" destiny/plan for your
> > life. It is up to you whether or not you
> follow
> > the plan. He gives you the path to follow with
> > instructions in the Bible. It's up to you or
> not
> > whether you follow those instructions. Being
> > sinful is not part of God's plan for our lives.
>
> > Whether you sin or not is up to you.
>
>
> So, with abortion...did god "pre-write" that the
> kid was going to get aborted?
>
> Because, certainly, the kid really has no say in
> the matter, right?
>
> What do those destiny/plans look like?


No more than God pre-writes someone gets murdered or killed in a car crash. God has a plan. If someone doesn't follow His plan, so be it. An abortion is a consequence of someone not following God's plan for their life.

God's destinies for us are to be Christ-like and follow the Word. What that looks like is to follow the God-given laws in the Bible (10 commandments and those put forth by Jesus). There is no destiny like 'turn right at the next light'. We exist to be close to God. That is the plan. 99% of us don't do it and fall short (some by a little, most by a lot).

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Posted by: oh, i think I see, is it ()
Date: April 15, 2019 09:15AM

"An abortion is a consequence of somebody not following God's plan for their life."

So, that aborted child just wasn't paying attention, huh, to god's plan? Is that what you are saying?

Or, are you saying, that was god's plan?

When does that part about "god not making any mistakes" come into play?

Hmmm...

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Posted by: horny toad ()
Date: April 15, 2019 09:22AM

When I was a kid, back in the 60's, we'd visit texas, and we'd catch "horny toads", basically, horned lizards.

We'd try to keep them for a while. They basically ate only ants, and so when we came back north in the winter, we couldn't find ants.

They'd die amazingly fast. Like, w/in 3-4-5 days of us catching them.

Since then, I've been somewhat interested in the little fellers...and have learned just how hard it is to keep them in captivity, and breed them.

Like, teams of university trained people know how to do it in controlled environments...with a lot of failure...

But, ol Noah and his family here, with his wooden boat full of animals, and birds, and reptiles...not a problem...

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