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baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
babies are beautiful
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Date: February 09, 2019 09:36AM
amazing how press cares about coon face but could care less about his killing born babies ?!?!
the libtard world is totally fucking nuts !
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Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Wordsmith
()
Date: February 09, 2019 11:52AM
You don't understand basic facts about "Late-Term Abortion." It's OK, even fearless sniffler Donald Trump got it wrong
In his State of the Union address this week. Agent Orange used scary imagery that scientists say is incorrect.
The president called for a ban of “late-term abortions” and said he wanted to protect “children who can feel pain in the womb.
President Trump on Tuesday evening asked Congress to ban a type of abortion often referred to as “late-term abortion.”
He said he wanted to protect “children who can feel pain in the mother’s womb.” He scorned New York’s recently passed Reproductive Health Act, saying that lawmakers had “cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.” It was an image he has used before, including in a campaign debate with Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
There are inaccuracies and gray areas in Mr. Trump’s assertions. Here’s an explanation of the terms and the science for you.
Let's start with answering the question, "What is late-term abortion and what does federal law allow?"
Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, said that abortion should be allowed until the time a fetus could survive outside the womb, a point (known as viability) that medical science generally considers to be at about 24 weeks of pregnancy. The Court has also specified that abortion should be legal after viability in certain cases — if continuing the pregnancy would seriously threaten the woman’s life or health.
Late-term abortion is a phrase used by abortion opponents to refer to abortions performed after about 21 weeks of pregnancy. It is not the same as the medical definition obstetricians use for “late-term,” which refers to pregnancies that extend past a woman’s due date, meaning about 41 or 42 weeks. Contrary to Mr. Trump’s claim, late-term abortions do not allow “a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.”
How common is "late teens abortion?"
Very rare. The most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that about 1.3 percent of abortions performed in the United States in 2015 occurred in or after the 21st week of pregnancy. Abortions after 24 weeks comprise less than one percent of all abortions. When they occur, it is usually because the fetus has been found to have a fatal condition that could not be detected earlier, such as a severe malformation of the brain, or because the mother’s life or health is at serious risk.
Can fetuses feel pain in"late term abortion?"
The answer is complex, so I will break it down as best I can. Most scientists who have examined the question say fetuses do not develop the neurological wiring that would give them the ability to feel pain until at least 24 weeks — in other words after nearly all abortions occur.
An analysis of research in this area published in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) in 2005 found that pain sensation requires neural connections into the cortex, and the cortex is not functionally developed until the 26th week or later.
In 2010, a panel appointed by Britain’s Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists published another large review of the research concluding that “most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception” so “the fetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior” to 24 weeks.
What do state laws aay about late-term abortion?
State laws vary. According to the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that supports abortion rights, 43 states ban some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy.
What does the new New York law allow?
New York’s Reproductive Health Act was passed to make sure the state would continue to ensure the right to an abortion if the Supreme Court were to overturn all or part of Roe v. Wade. Virginia's bill was very similar. Some lawmakers in New York’s Democratic-controlled legislature said they were concerned that President Trump’s appointments of two conservative justices, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, might put federal abortion protections at risk.
The new state law says a health provider may perform an abortion in the state before 24 weeks — and later if the fetus is not considered viable or if the procedure is considered necessary to protect the woman’s life or health. Those are all similar to stipulations made by the Supreme Court.
In an opinion piece in The New York Times last Wednesday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, sharply disputed Mr. Trump’s characterization of the law. “Contrary to what its detractors claim, the Reproductive Health Act does not allow abortions minutes before birth, nor does it allow third-trimester abortions ‘for any reason,’” Mr. Cuomo wrote.
Northam is not a baby killer, and you are wrong to grandstand he is. Science is not on your side on this one, only emotion, fabricated for you by a group committed to control women's bodies, and women's self determination.
In his State of the Union address this week. Agent Orange used scary imagery that scientists say is incorrect.
The president called for a ban of “late-term abortions” and said he wanted to protect “children who can feel pain in the womb.
President Trump on Tuesday evening asked Congress to ban a type of abortion often referred to as “late-term abortion.”
He said he wanted to protect “children who can feel pain in the mother’s womb.” He scorned New York’s recently passed Reproductive Health Act, saying that lawmakers had “cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.” It was an image he has used before, including in a campaign debate with Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
There are inaccuracies and gray areas in Mr. Trump’s assertions. Here’s an explanation of the terms and the science for you.
Let's start with answering the question, "What is late-term abortion and what does federal law allow?"
Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, said that abortion should be allowed until the time a fetus could survive outside the womb, a point (known as viability) that medical science generally considers to be at about 24 weeks of pregnancy. The Court has also specified that abortion should be legal after viability in certain cases — if continuing the pregnancy would seriously threaten the woman’s life or health.
Late-term abortion is a phrase used by abortion opponents to refer to abortions performed after about 21 weeks of pregnancy. It is not the same as the medical definition obstetricians use for “late-term,” which refers to pregnancies that extend past a woman’s due date, meaning about 41 or 42 weeks. Contrary to Mr. Trump’s claim, late-term abortions do not allow “a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.”
How common is "late teens abortion?"
Very rare. The most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that about 1.3 percent of abortions performed in the United States in 2015 occurred in or after the 21st week of pregnancy. Abortions after 24 weeks comprise less than one percent of all abortions. When they occur, it is usually because the fetus has been found to have a fatal condition that could not be detected earlier, such as a severe malformation of the brain, or because the mother’s life or health is at serious risk.
Can fetuses feel pain in"late term abortion?"
The answer is complex, so I will break it down as best I can. Most scientists who have examined the question say fetuses do not develop the neurological wiring that would give them the ability to feel pain until at least 24 weeks — in other words after nearly all abortions occur.
An analysis of research in this area published in JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association) in 2005 found that pain sensation requires neural connections into the cortex, and the cortex is not functionally developed until the 26th week or later.
In 2010, a panel appointed by Britain’s Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists published another large review of the research concluding that “most neuroscientists believe that the cortex is necessary for pain perception” so “the fetus cannot experience pain in any sense prior” to 24 weeks.
What do state laws aay about late-term abortion?
State laws vary. According to the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that supports abortion rights, 43 states ban some abortions after a certain point in pregnancy.
What does the new New York law allow?
New York’s Reproductive Health Act was passed to make sure the state would continue to ensure the right to an abortion if the Supreme Court were to overturn all or part of Roe v. Wade. Virginia's bill was very similar. Some lawmakers in New York’s Democratic-controlled legislature said they were concerned that President Trump’s appointments of two conservative justices, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, might put federal abortion protections at risk.
The new state law says a health provider may perform an abortion in the state before 24 weeks — and later if the fetus is not considered viable or if the procedure is considered necessary to protect the woman’s life or health. Those are all similar to stipulations made by the Supreme Court.
In an opinion piece in The New York Times last Wednesday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, sharply disputed Mr. Trump’s characterization of the law. “Contrary to what its detractors claim, the Reproductive Health Act does not allow abortions minutes before birth, nor does it allow third-trimester abortions ‘for any reason,’” Mr. Cuomo wrote.
Northam is not a baby killer, and you are wrong to grandstand he is. Science is not on your side on this one, only emotion, fabricated for you by a group committed to control women's bodies, and women's self determination.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Get a damn life
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Date: February 09, 2019 12:01PM
This is Fairfax Underground. We don't cite scientific, peer reviewed journals. We reprint stuff from Breitbart and Rasmussen, as well as bitch about black people.
Wrong site, my friend.
Wrong site, my friend.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
highly educated libtard
()
Date: February 09, 2019 12:20PM
higher education is needed to be an idiot who questions common sense
the ny and va laws would allow a woman in labor to say she feels she might be depressed with the baby and the doctor then has legal right to kill him
your over long boring discussion is the kind of mental diarrhea required to tationalize NOT pay attention to common sense
thankfully PP has revealed what their plan was all along...baby killing up until birth...especially for minorities and non preferred tribes
you all are the ideal fools that communists have spent decades in creating...congratulation on being a well educated npc shit eating fool
the ny and va laws would allow a woman in labor to say she feels she might be depressed with the baby and the doctor then has legal right to kill him
your over long boring discussion is the kind of mental diarrhea required to tationalize NOT pay attention to common sense
thankfully PP has revealed what their plan was all along...baby killing up until birth...especially for minorities and non preferred tribes
you all are the ideal fools that communists have spent decades in creating...congratulation on being a well educated npc shit eating fool
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Wordsmith
()
Date: February 09, 2019 12:59PM
highly educated libtard Wrote:
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> higher education is needed to be an idiot who
> questions common sense
>
> the ny and va laws would allow a woman in labor to
> say she feels she might be depressed with the baby
> and the doctor then has legal right to kill him
>
> your over long boring discussion is the kind of
> mental diarrhea required to tationalize NOT pay
> attention to common sense
>
> thankfully PP has revealed what their plan was all
> along...baby killing up until birth...especially
> for minorities and non preferred tribes
>
> you all are the ideal fools that communists have
> spent decades in creating...congratulation on
> being a well educated npc shit eating fool
Nope. Where do you get your misinformation from? Are your comma and shift keys broken?
As you know, Kathy Tran of Virginia's House of Delegates had proposed a bill that would ease state restrictions on third-trimester abortions. Under current law in Virginia, third-trimester abortions are permitted when a woman’s physician and two other doctors certify that continuing a pregnancy would result in a mother’s death, or “substantially and irremediably impair the mental or physical health of the woman.”
Last week, Delegate Tran, a Democrat, testified in favor of a bill that would end the requirement for two extra doctors to sign off on such abortions, and strike the words “substantially and irremediably” from the existing law. Similar legislation has been introduced in past years. At no point did Tran try to legalize infanticide.
When Tran appeared before a statehouse subcommittee, the Republican majority leader, Todd Gilbert, presented her with an outré (outrageous) hypothetical. He asked, could a woman about to go into labor request an abortion if her doctor certified that she needed one for mental health reasons? Tran said that the decision would be between a woman and her doctor, but, evidently taken aback by the question, eventually allowed that it would be permitted under her bill.
Tran handled the moment poorly. She might have pointed out that legislation is not generally written with an eye to prohibiting ridiculous and unprecedented scenarios. It is inconceivable that a doctor would certify a need for an abortion while a woman is in labor; Most doctors won’t even let a woman turn down a C-section if they think a baby’s health is at risk. Remember, in most labors these days, the mother has seditves and other drugs in her system, so no Doctor would take seriously a life altering request from a drugged up patient who is in serious discomfort.
That being said, Tran’s impolitic answer to a ludicrous question gave abortion opponents grist for an explosion of self-righteous outrage.
Things only escalated on Wednesday, when Gov. Ralph Northam was asked about the uproar during an appearance on a radio show. Northam, a pediatric neurologist by training, spoke about what actually happens when a woman goes into labor with a fetus that has severe deformities and may not be viable. The infant, he said, would be delivered and kept comfortable, and the family would decide about resuscitation.
Northam appeared to be pointing out the absurdity of Gilbert’s hypothetical, since even in grave circumstances, no one gets an abortion on the delivery table. But as a clip of the interview went viral, conservatives, including the Republican senator Marco Rubio, began accusing Northam of supporting the murder of newborns. It was the right-wing version of an online outrage mob, warping the governor's innocuous comments into a callous declaration of evil.
In some ways the issue of Tran’s bill is moot, since it was never going to pass in Virginia’s Republican-controlled legislature, and certainly has no chance now. But the debate over late-term abortion has been rekindled. For Donald Trump, who tweeted about the procedure on Thursday, it’s a culture war issue he can exploit. Others on the right are genuinely sickened by what they imagine liberals want to allow, even if they also appear to be enjoying the chance to once again scold the left for its purported immorality.
“Under the bill’s actual text, virtually any claim of impairment would suffice to meet the act’s requirements,” wrote National Review’s David French. “Anxiety? Depression? The conventional physical challenges of postpartum recovery? Any of those things could justify taking the life of a fully formed, completely viable, living infant.”
French appears to be worried that women will seek, and doctors will perform, late-term abortions for trivial reasons. But there’s contempt for women embedded in the idea that, absent legal prohibition, someone on the verge of giving birth might instead terminate her pregnancy to avoid the brutalities of labor, which is absurd.
“No matter what the law were, in real life, these things don’t happen,” said Frances Kissling, president of the Center for Health, Ethics and Social Policy and the former head of Catholics for a Free Choice.,“ told The Washington Post on Thursday "I am not saying that there would not be one woman out of 20 million who decided at the 33rd week of pregnancy that she needed an abortion, and I would suggest that she probably does have mental health problems. However, this woman is not going to find anyone who will do this,” she continued.
Kissling is well known in the pro-choice movement for thinking deeply about the ethical gray areas surrounding abortion. As she points out, there are only about a dozen doctors in the country who perform third-trimester abortions at all, and she’s spoken to several of them, asking specific questions about patients they’ve turned down. “What I have learned is that all of them have limits and have declined to do abortions in certain circumstances for certain reasons,” she said. (The murderous abortionist Kermit Gosnell, serving a life sentence in prison, is an exception, but he was operating outside the law, and was not operating a licensed clinic).
A person who is ambivalent about abortion might wonder why, if the situations put forward by Gilbert and French are so unthinkable, pro-choice people would object to laws making them illegal. But the law is not a blunt instrument for making judgments about extreme and unusual contingencies.
Having extra doctors sign off on each late abortion safeguards against (mythical) cavalier terminations, but it means that women in anguished, urgent situations need to jump through extra hoops. Abortion opponents treat mental health exemptions as easily exploited loopholes, but one instance in which they’re invoked is when a woman learns that her fetus has little chance of surviving outside the womb, and can’t face the prospect of going through labor only to watch her baby die.
There are many tragic stories of women forced to abort desperately wanted pregnancies because of harrowing medical emergencies, but also more complicated cases of, for example, young girls who hid their pregnancies for months, or whose abortions were delayed by restrictive laws in their states. “Our talking point is, most of these procedures are on women who discover abnormalities late in the pregnancy,” Kissling said. “We don’t know if that is true.”
Conservatives might see vindication in this admission, but it leaves us with the question of whether we want to use the law to make fine-grained moral distinctions, particularly in the absence of good information about the life-or-death choices we’re regulating. “This is so complicated, that we can set this guideline, but then we have to leave it to medicine, to the doctor and the woman, to figure this out,” argued Kissling. There’s certainly no reason to trust the people who elected Trump to make profound ethical decisions for us. "
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> higher education is needed to be an idiot who
> questions common sense
>
> the ny and va laws would allow a woman in labor to
> say she feels she might be depressed with the baby
> and the doctor then has legal right to kill him
>
> your over long boring discussion is the kind of
> mental diarrhea required to tationalize NOT pay
> attention to common sense
>
> thankfully PP has revealed what their plan was all
> along...baby killing up until birth...especially
> for minorities and non preferred tribes
>
> you all are the ideal fools that communists have
> spent decades in creating...congratulation on
> being a well educated npc shit eating fool
Nope. Where do you get your misinformation from? Are your comma and shift keys broken?
As you know, Kathy Tran of Virginia's House of Delegates had proposed a bill that would ease state restrictions on third-trimester abortions. Under current law in Virginia, third-trimester abortions are permitted when a woman’s physician and two other doctors certify that continuing a pregnancy would result in a mother’s death, or “substantially and irremediably impair the mental or physical health of the woman.”
Last week, Delegate Tran, a Democrat, testified in favor of a bill that would end the requirement for two extra doctors to sign off on such abortions, and strike the words “substantially and irremediably” from the existing law. Similar legislation has been introduced in past years. At no point did Tran try to legalize infanticide.
When Tran appeared before a statehouse subcommittee, the Republican majority leader, Todd Gilbert, presented her with an outré (outrageous) hypothetical. He asked, could a woman about to go into labor request an abortion if her doctor certified that she needed one for mental health reasons? Tran said that the decision would be between a woman and her doctor, but, evidently taken aback by the question, eventually allowed that it would be permitted under her bill.
Tran handled the moment poorly. She might have pointed out that legislation is not generally written with an eye to prohibiting ridiculous and unprecedented scenarios. It is inconceivable that a doctor would certify a need for an abortion while a woman is in labor; Most doctors won’t even let a woman turn down a C-section if they think a baby’s health is at risk. Remember, in most labors these days, the mother has seditves and other drugs in her system, so no Doctor would take seriously a life altering request from a drugged up patient who is in serious discomfort.
That being said, Tran’s impolitic answer to a ludicrous question gave abortion opponents grist for an explosion of self-righteous outrage.
Things only escalated on Wednesday, when Gov. Ralph Northam was asked about the uproar during an appearance on a radio show. Northam, a pediatric neurologist by training, spoke about what actually happens when a woman goes into labor with a fetus that has severe deformities and may not be viable. The infant, he said, would be delivered and kept comfortable, and the family would decide about resuscitation.
Northam appeared to be pointing out the absurdity of Gilbert’s hypothetical, since even in grave circumstances, no one gets an abortion on the delivery table. But as a clip of the interview went viral, conservatives, including the Republican senator Marco Rubio, began accusing Northam of supporting the murder of newborns. It was the right-wing version of an online outrage mob, warping the governor's innocuous comments into a callous declaration of evil.
In some ways the issue of Tran’s bill is moot, since it was never going to pass in Virginia’s Republican-controlled legislature, and certainly has no chance now. But the debate over late-term abortion has been rekindled. For Donald Trump, who tweeted about the procedure on Thursday, it’s a culture war issue he can exploit. Others on the right are genuinely sickened by what they imagine liberals want to allow, even if they also appear to be enjoying the chance to once again scold the left for its purported immorality.
“Under the bill’s actual text, virtually any claim of impairment would suffice to meet the act’s requirements,” wrote National Review’s David French. “Anxiety? Depression? The conventional physical challenges of postpartum recovery? Any of those things could justify taking the life of a fully formed, completely viable, living infant.”
French appears to be worried that women will seek, and doctors will perform, late-term abortions for trivial reasons. But there’s contempt for women embedded in the idea that, absent legal prohibition, someone on the verge of giving birth might instead terminate her pregnancy to avoid the brutalities of labor, which is absurd.
“No matter what the law were, in real life, these things don’t happen,” said Frances Kissling, president of the Center for Health, Ethics and Social Policy and the former head of Catholics for a Free Choice.,“ told The Washington Post on Thursday "I am not saying that there would not be one woman out of 20 million who decided at the 33rd week of pregnancy that she needed an abortion, and I would suggest that she probably does have mental health problems. However, this woman is not going to find anyone who will do this,” she continued.
Kissling is well known in the pro-choice movement for thinking deeply about the ethical gray areas surrounding abortion. As she points out, there are only about a dozen doctors in the country who perform third-trimester abortions at all, and she’s spoken to several of them, asking specific questions about patients they’ve turned down. “What I have learned is that all of them have limits and have declined to do abortions in certain circumstances for certain reasons,” she said. (The murderous abortionist Kermit Gosnell, serving a life sentence in prison, is an exception, but he was operating outside the law, and was not operating a licensed clinic).
A person who is ambivalent about abortion might wonder why, if the situations put forward by Gilbert and French are so unthinkable, pro-choice people would object to laws making them illegal. But the law is not a blunt instrument for making judgments about extreme and unusual contingencies.
Having extra doctors sign off on each late abortion safeguards against (mythical) cavalier terminations, but it means that women in anguished, urgent situations need to jump through extra hoops. Abortion opponents treat mental health exemptions as easily exploited loopholes, but one instance in which they’re invoked is when a woman learns that her fetus has little chance of surviving outside the womb, and can’t face the prospect of going through labor only to watch her baby die.
There are many tragic stories of women forced to abort desperately wanted pregnancies because of harrowing medical emergencies, but also more complicated cases of, for example, young girls who hid their pregnancies for months, or whose abortions were delayed by restrictive laws in their states. “Our talking point is, most of these procedures are on women who discover abnormalities late in the pregnancy,” Kissling said. “We don’t know if that is true.”
Conservatives might see vindication in this admission, but it leaves us with the question of whether we want to use the law to make fine-grained moral distinctions, particularly in the absence of good information about the life-or-death choices we’re regulating. “This is so complicated, that we can set this guideline, but then we have to leave it to medicine, to the doctor and the woman, to figure this out,” argued Kissling. There’s certainly no reason to trust the people who elected Trump to make profound ethical decisions for us. "
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Antiasshat
()
Date: February 09, 2019 01:56PM
^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on FFXU is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence. Dude no one is going to waste their time reading some long diatribe full of nonsense.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
mfhwk
()
Date: February 09, 2019 02:02PM
Get on your side of the Mason-Dickson line, we're doing this thing #again!
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Wordsmith
()
Date: February 09, 2019 04:49PM
Antiasshat Wrote:
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> ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on FFXU
> is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence. Dude
> no one is going to waste their time reading some
> long diatribe full of nonsense.
There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
I will use that rule now
I went over your comments (listen)
Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
So what you are saying is, you don't like to read other people's opinions or research, and you are critical of, and lie about, people you don't know and know nothing about. You affirm your intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like you, and you draw conclusions based only on pitiful self actualization. You are also telling us,anything written that contains more words than a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense. (Summarize)
Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
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> ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on FFXU
> is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence. Dude
> no one is going to waste their time reading some
> long diatribe full of nonsense.
There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
I will use that rule now
I went over your comments (listen)
Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
So what you are saying is, you don't like to read other people's opinions or research, and you are critical of, and lie about, people you don't know and know nothing about. You affirm your intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like you, and you draw conclusions based only on pitiful self actualization. You are also telling us,anything written that contains more words than a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense. (Summarize)
Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Really, I mean Really?
()
Date: February 09, 2019 05:35PM
Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert asked if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill would make it necessary for the Doctor to provide the abortion, correct?
No.
A scenario like the one he described cannot happen. The doctor is under oath to provide birth. A woman in labor is under physical and mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated in most cases, and she cannot be given life altering authority to make sane decisions. I can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!" Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the pregnancy.
Women do say the darndest things during labor. I heard of one woman demanding her phone so she could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband did to her. Remember, they are in pain and drugged up.
BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
No.
A scenario like the one he described cannot happen. The doctor is under oath to provide birth. A woman in labor is under physical and mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated in most cases, and she cannot be given life altering authority to make sane decisions. I can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!" Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the pregnancy.
Women do say the darndest things during labor. I heard of one woman demanding her phone so she could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband did to her. Remember, they are in pain and drugged up.
BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Antiasshat
()
Date: February 10, 2019 11:21AM
Wordsmith Wrote:
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> Antiasshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> FFXU
> > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> Dude
> > no one is going to waste their time reading
> some
> > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
>
> Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
>
> I will use that rule now
>
> I went over your comments (listen)
>
> Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
>
> So what you are saying is, you don't like to read
> other people's opinions or research, and you are
> critical of, and lie about, people you don't know
> and know nothing about. You affirm your
> intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like
> you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> pitiful self actualization. You are also telling
> us,anything written that contains more words than
> a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> (Summarize)
>
> Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put
> yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
Wow you sound really smart. You must spend all day in the library, instead of earning money like me.
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> Antiasshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> FFXU
> > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> Dude
> > no one is going to waste their time reading
> some
> > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
>
> Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
>
> I will use that rule now
>
> I went over your comments (listen)
>
> Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
>
> So what you are saying is, you don't like to read
> other people's opinions or research, and you are
> critical of, and lie about, people you don't know
> and know nothing about. You affirm your
> intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like
> you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> pitiful self actualization. You are also telling
> us,anything written that contains more words than
> a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> (Summarize)
>
> Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put
> yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
Wow you sound really smart. You must spend all day in the library, instead of earning money like me.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Wordsmith
()
Date: February 10, 2019 12:55PM
Antiasshat Wrote:
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> Wordsmith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Antiasshat Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets
> no
> > > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> > FFXU
> > > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> > Dude
> > > no one is going to waste their time reading
> > some
> > > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> > There is a rule in responding. It is called
> LASA.
> >
> > Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
> >
> > I will use that rule now
> >
> > I went over your comments (listen)
> >
> > Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
> >
> > So what you are saying is, you don't like to
> read
> > other people's opinions or research, and you
> are
> > critical of, and lie about, people you don't
> know
> > and know nothing about. You affirm your
> > intellectual laziness by saying everyone is
> like
> > you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> > pitiful self actualization. You are also
> telling
> > us,anything written that contains more words
> than
> > a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> > (Summarize)
> >
> > Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to
> put
> > yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
>
>
> Wow you sound really smart. You must spend all
> day in the library, instead of earning money like
> me.
You work at a job on Saturday?
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> Wordsmith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Antiasshat Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets
> no
> > > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> > FFXU
> > > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> > Dude
> > > no one is going to waste their time reading
> > some
> > > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> > There is a rule in responding. It is called
> LASA.
> >
> > Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
> >
> > I will use that rule now
> >
> > I went over your comments (listen)
> >
> > Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
> >
> > So what you are saying is, you don't like to
> read
> > other people's opinions or research, and you
> are
> > critical of, and lie about, people you don't
> know
> > and know nothing about. You affirm your
> > intellectual laziness by saying everyone is
> like
> > you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> > pitiful self actualization. You are also
> telling
> > us,anything written that contains more words
> than
> > a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> > (Summarize)
> >
> > Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to
> put
> > yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
>
>
> Wow you sound really smart. You must spend all
> day in the library, instead of earning money like
> me.
You work at a job on Saturday?
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Coonman is GOP gold
()
Date: February 10, 2019 12:58PM
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Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Bravo!
()
Date: February 10, 2019 02:40PM
Wordsmith Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Antiasshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> FFXU
> > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> Dude
> > no one is going to waste their time reading
> some
> > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
>
> Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
>
> I will use that rule now
>
> I went over your comments (listen)
>
> Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
>
> So what you are saying is, you don't like to read
> other people's opinions or research, and you are
> critical of, and lie about, people you don't know
> and know nothing about. You affirm your
> intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like
> you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> pitiful self actualization. You are also telling
> us,anything written that contains more words than
> a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> (Summarize)
>
> Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put
> yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
You summed up perfectly the Trumpian mindset. I used to try to have rational debates with these clowns until I realized that the few who are capable of reading more than one sentence at a time are impervious to anything resembling logic. Their idea of a brilliant zinger is “You’re gay!” It is disgusting that these mouth breathers have any input into decisions made by women over their own bodies.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Antiasshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^^^ Wordsmith obviously has no friends, gets no
> > sex, and has no life. Posting long screeds on
> FFXU
> > is a sure sign of a sad and lonely existence.
> Dude
> > no one is going to waste their time reading
> some
> > long diatribe full of nonsense.
> There is a rule in responding. It is called LASA.
>
> Listen, Affirm, Summarize, Ask more questions
>
> I will use that rule now
>
> I went over your comments (listen)
>
> Uh huh? You really think so? (Affirm)
>
> So what you are saying is, you don't like to read
> other people's opinions or research, and you are
> critical of, and lie about, people you don't know
> and know nothing about. You affirm your
> intellectual laziness by saying everyone is like
> you, and you draw conclusions based only on
> pitiful self actualization. You are also telling
> us,anything written that contains more words than
> a comic book page, or meme, is nonsense.
> (Summarize)
>
> Did I get that right? Do you feel the need to put
> yourself down further? ( Ask more questions).
You summed up perfectly the Trumpian mindset. I used to try to have rational debates with these clowns until I realized that the few who are capable of reading more than one sentence at a time are impervious to anything resembling logic. Their idea of a brilliant zinger is “You’re gay!” It is disgusting that these mouth breathers have any input into decisions made by women over their own bodies.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
But. It's a woman's body.
()
Date: February 10, 2019 03:32PM
Really, I mean Really? Wrote:
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> Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert asked
> if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> would make it necessary for the Doctor to provide
> the abortion, correct?
>
> No.
>
> A scenario like the one he described cannot
> happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated
> in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would
> be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
>
>
> If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on
> the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> pregnancy.
>
> Women do say the darndest things during labor. I
> heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband
> did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> drugged up.
>
> BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger
> resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man
> to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
>
> OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given
> to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
So it's not really the woman's choice? But I thought the left says "Woman's body, woman's choice". Even though in reality you want the government to make all sorts of choices for people. You numb nuts are very inconsistent.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert asked
> if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> would make it necessary for the Doctor to provide
> the abortion, correct?
>
> No.
>
> A scenario like the one he described cannot
> happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated
> in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would
> be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
>
>
> If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on
> the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> pregnancy.
>
> Women do say the darndest things during labor. I
> heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband
> did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> drugged up.
>
> BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger
> resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man
> to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
>
> OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given
> to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
So it's not really the woman's choice? But I thought the left says "Woman's body, woman's choice". Even though in reality you want the government to make all sorts of choices for people. You numb nuts are very inconsistent.
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
legalistic fools
()
Date: February 10, 2019 08:30PM
so during intercourse, does a woman own the penis inside her ?
satanists and their globalist whores spin up the most ridiculous legalistic arguments and then the idiot libtards accept it over their common sense
satanists infiltrated and took over judaism with their talmudic heresy.
just as true jews followed Moses and the false jews followed the golden calf into the pit.
true jews followed Jesus and the talmud legalistic fake jews will follow satan into the pit.
unfortunately satan is not in the pit yet and his talmudic legalistic followers have a heavy sway on the world but they have already lost the war and their time is coming
satanists and their globalist whores spin up the most ridiculous legalistic arguments and then the idiot libtards accept it over their common sense
satanists infiltrated and took over judaism with their talmudic heresy.
just as true jews followed Moses and the false jews followed the golden calf into the pit.
true jews followed Jesus and the talmud legalistic fake jews will follow satan into the pit.
unfortunately satan is not in the pit yet and his talmudic legalistic followers have a heavy sway on the world but they have already lost the war and their time is coming
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Wordsmith
()
Date: February 11, 2019 10:22AM
But. It's a woman's body. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Really, I mean Really? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert
> asked
> > if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> > wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> > would make it necessary for the Doctor to
> provide
> > the abortion, correct?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > A scenario like the one he described cannot
> > happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> > birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> > mental duress (pain), as well as heavily
> medicated
> > in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> > altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> > can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor
> would
> > be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
> >
> >
> > If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> > Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her
> on
> > the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> > pregnancy.
> >
> > Women do say the darndest things during labor.
> I
> > heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> > could call a divorce lawyer over what her
> husband
> > did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> > drugged up.
> >
> > BTW, because of childbirth, women have a
> stronger
> > resistance to pain than men do. For a learned
> man
> > to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
> >
> > OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid
> given
> > to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
>
>
> So it's not really the woman's choice? But I
> thought the left says "Woman's body, woman's
> choice". Even though in reality you want the
> government to make all sorts of choices for
> people. You numb nuts are very inconsistent.
That crap is your argument?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Really, I mean Really? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert
> asked
> > if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> > wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> > would make it necessary for the Doctor to
> provide
> > the abortion, correct?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > A scenario like the one he described cannot
> > happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> > birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> > mental duress (pain), as well as heavily
> medicated
> > in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> > altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> > can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor
> would
> > be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
> >
> >
> > If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> > Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her
> on
> > the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> > pregnancy.
> >
> > Women do say the darndest things during labor.
> I
> > heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> > could call a divorce lawyer over what her
> husband
> > did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> > drugged up.
> >
> > BTW, because of childbirth, women have a
> stronger
> > resistance to pain than men do. For a learned
> man
> > to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
> >
> > OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid
> given
> > to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
>
>
> So it's not really the woman's choice? But I
> thought the left says "Woman's body, woman's
> choice". Even though in reality you want the
> government to make all sorts of choices for
> people. You numb nuts are very inconsistent.
That crap is your argument?
Re: baby killer Northam has to go !
Posted by:
Asshole Spotter
()
Date: February 11, 2019 10:27AM
Really, I mean Really? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert asked
> if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> would make it necessary for the Doctor to provide
> the abortion, correct?
>
> No.
>
> A scenario like the one he described cannot
> happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated
> in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would
> be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
>
>
> If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on
> the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> pregnancy.
>
> Women do say the darndest things during labor. I
> heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband
> did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> drugged up.
>
> BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger
> resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man
> to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
>
> OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given
> to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
Better tell that to that chink whore who sponsored the bill then ginger. She's the one who said her bill would allow it. Why you such an asshole homey?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Let me be clear to Trumptards. Todd Gilbert asked
> if a women who is in labor tells the doctor she
> wants an abortion instead of birth, the bill
> would make it necessary for the Doctor to provide
> the abortion, correct?
>
> No.
>
> A scenario like the one he described cannot
> happen. The doctor is under oath to provide
> birth. A woman in labor is under physical and
> mental duress (pain), as well as heavily medicated
> in most cases, and she cannot be given life
> altering authority to make sane decisions. I
> can't imagine the scenerio where the doctor would
> be stumped over this scenario ever happening.
>
>
> If the women in labor said, "just kill me now!"
> Would the Doctor be directed to murdering her on
> the spot? Of course not. Same thing with the
> pregnancy.
>
> Women do say the darndest things during labor. I
> heard of one woman demanding her phone so she
> could call a divorce lawyer over what her husband
> did to her. Remember, they are in pain and
> drugged up.
>
> BTW, because of childbirth, women have a stronger
> resistance to pain than men do. For a learned man
> to ask such a ludicrous question is beyond me.
>
> OP, and Delegate Gilbert drank the KoolAid given
> to them by a deceitful set of clowns.
Better tell that to that chink whore who sponsored the bill then ginger. She's the one who said her bill would allow it. Why you such an asshole homey?