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The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: L. Douglas Wilder ()
Date: February 10, 2010 01:56PM

As the left continues to predict and salivate over the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to ignore the implosion happening right under their own feet.

Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm

By BOB LEWIS
AP Political Writer


RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected black governor is calling for Democratic National Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.

In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of reversals in governor's races and special congressional elections under Kaine's watch.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder said his comments about Kaine, whose term as Virginia's governor expired last month, were not personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with Kaine's leadership.

Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964. Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005 when Kaine was elected governor.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Hope Is A Joke ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:05PM

It's time to shake up both parties! But especially the democrats.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:09PM

Hope Is A Joke Wrote:
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> It's time to shake up both parties! But especially
> the democrats.


Lets see..on one side we have a party that brought us 25 years of a "free market fraud"...a party who brought us nearly 8 years of war...a party of "just say no"!

I'll take the dems any day.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Big Peg ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:22PM

25 years of a growing economy. Wouldn't want that again would we?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:38PM

Big Peg Wrote:
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> 25 years of a growing national debt. Wouldn't want that
> again would we?


There. Fixed it for you.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: DummyCraps ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:40PM

This is how stoopid Democrats are.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone

They do things like making a political funny while using a racial slur and then prove to be more of a dumbass than those they are using racial slurs to desribe.

I didn't think it was that funny to begin with but the mistake makes it hillarious.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:43PM

Apparently someone forgot to close the gate after the Craigslist "rants and rave" crowd left the last time.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: DickEatinCrats ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:44PM

- blah blah blah during her interview a the Tea Party.

We know who the "A's" are.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:44PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Apparently someone forgot to close the gate after
> the Craigslist "rants and rave" crowd left the
> last time.

Fairy, another brilliant fucking post. YOU are da MAN, man! Keep 'em comin'!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:45PM

Huge #1 Fan Wrote:
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> Fairy, another brilliant fucking post. YOU are da
> MAN, man! Keep 'em comin'!



Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like fucking supermodels and shit?


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:47PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like
> fisting supermodels and shit?

Fixed it for ya.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Mini Vinny ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:56PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Hope Is A Joke Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's time to shake up both parties! But
> especially
> > the democrats.
>
>
> Lets see..on one side we have a party that brought
> us 25 years of a "free market fraud"...a party who
> brought us nearly 8 years of war...a party of
> "just say no"!
>
> I'll take the dems any day.

Vinny,

You are real good at your picks. Who'd you pick to win the superbowl this year? The St. Louis Rams?

I'll pick a winner for you....The party of Reagan. The base is speaking.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:58PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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> -----
>
> > Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like
> > fisting supermodels and shit?
>
> Fixed it for ya.

Yeah, that's right Fairy, only Inktard would dare question your reign on queerness. You are a pathetic little pussy.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:08PM

FAIRFAXDUDE, YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS YOU CAN"T GET TATTOOED LIZARD NOSED TRAILER TRASH LIKE THIS.
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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:11PM

Huge #1 Fan Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach,
> like
> > > fisting supermodels and shit?
> >
> > Fixed it for ya.
>
> Yeah, that's right Fairy, only Inktard would dare
> question your reign on queerness. You are a
> pathetic little pussy.

He seems to only think it is one person that calls him out on his usual stupidity. He doesn't realize that there are many people on the site that despise him with his Fairy ways.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:14PM

LOL, a repeat of the classic Ink-tard skank.

I bet that fake flower is covering the welt from the baseball bat the night before, right, Inky?

LOL@"lizard nosed trailer trash".

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:17PM

What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching the guys your apartment complex contracted out to clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage to cook today? I see you are still searching for those illusive "original thoughts" huh?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:21PM

Unlike YOU, Vince(r) the nameless trolls (like you and ink-tard) don't even get acknowledged.

Wasn't it YOU accusing others of derailing threads with gay/queer/man-love comments? Welcome to the unwashed masses, douchebag.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fox News Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:23PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching
> the guys your apartment complex contracted out to
> clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage to
> cook today? I see you are still searching for
> those illusive "original thoughts" huh?


+100 Anyone that doesn't believe Palin is awesome and that global warming is a communist conspiracy is a faggot idiot. Speaking of faggots, I hope we can pass a law like Uganda has. Death to all faggots.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:24PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Unlike YOU, Vince(r) the nameless trolls (like you
> and ink-tard) don't even get acknowledged.
>
> Wasn't it YOU accusing others of derailing threads
> with gay/queer/man-love comments? Welcome to the
> unwashed masses, douchebag.

Aww...

Better take your prozac and get those nerves in check. And I am just calling you out on your usual man-love issues. Glad to see you have acknowledged your own inner douchebag.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:24PM

Fox News Voter Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching
> > the guys your apartment complex contracted out
> to
> > clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage
> to
> > cook today? I see you are still searching for
> > those illusive "original thoughts" huh?
>
>
> +100 Anyone that doesn't believe Palin is awesome
> and that global warming is a communist conspiracy
> is a faggot idiot. Speaking of faggots, I hope we
> can pass a law like Uganda has. Death to all
> faggots.

You can believe whatever you want - you don't speak for me. And what you stated has nothing to do with anything I have ever stated here.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:30PM

Can somebody please buy Vince(r) a new insult dictionary? I hate to watch a grown man prove himself a complete and utter douchebag retard in a public forum.

It's sad to watch.

"cooking sausage"?

"live in an apartment"?

"take your prozac"?

Seriously, Vince(r), step up your game or GTFO. Jebus.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:34PM

Just describing your lifestyle "Dude" - don't be embarrassed about it. Unlike you, I don't spend my time thinking up how to insult folks for no reason other than the fact that you can't think of anything else.

Maybe if you had some original thoughts you wouldn't be stuck in a rut, spending your days repetitively insulting people you don't know since you have nothing else better to focus your massive intellect on.

Sure, I discuss issues - I know that is boring for you. That would actually require you to think beyond yourself.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fox News Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:42PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Just describing your lifestyle "Dude" - don't be
> embarrassed about it. Unlike you, I don't spend my
> time thinking up how to insult folks for no reason
> other than the fact that you can't think of
> anything else.
>
> Maybe if you had some original thoughts you
> wouldn't be stuck in a rut, spending your days
> repetitively insulting people you don't know since
> you have nothing else better to focus your massive
> intellect on.
>
> Sure, I discuss issues - I know that is boring for
> you. That would actually require you to think
> beyond yourself.



+100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family Values" and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."

People that don't share right wing Christian values are sodomites that live in apartments and cook pork products.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:50PM

You are much more a Vince(r) then I am Fox News Voter.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:00PM

Oh, no, Vince(r)/Reggie....au contraire!

You ARE Vince(r), through and through. Completely and utterly. Nary a question on that!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:01PM

Fox News Voter Wrote:

> +100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple
> things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family Values"
> and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."
>
> People that don't share right wing Christian
> values are sodomites that live in apartments and
> cook pork products.


LMAO Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity RULE!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:12PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Oh, no, Vince(r)/Reggie....au contraire!
>
> You ARE Vince(r), through and through. Completely
> and utterly. Nary a question on that!

Explain that, would you please? I am not sure I understand your thinking on this. Was it because WTL said it? Or do you have some examples of ways I have responded that are the same as V? I just want to get your take on it since you can't seem to figure out your own muddled thought process unless it is handed to you.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:26PM

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 05:46PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Fox News Voter Wrote:
>
> > +100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple
> > things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family
> Values"
> > and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."
> >
> > People that don't share right wing Christian
> > values are sodomites that live in apartments
> and
> > cook pork products.
>
>
> LMAO Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity RULE!

Fairy, You are the KING OF ZING. Can't wait to see more of your handy work!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 06:44PM

Big Peg Wrote:
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> 25 years of a growing economy. Wouldn't want that
> again would we?


It was a 25 year Ponzi Scheme...growth at the exepense of an indusrial base...over spending...under taxing. It doesnt take a genious to figure out that if you sell over your infrastructure....increase defense spending...and hand back the rich their fair share of the tax base..you get growth..for some period of time....but then it catches up with you.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: February 10, 2010 07:01PM

You mean a Ponzi scheme like social security, medicare and the proposed health care plan. All are based on the participants to keep increasing and we all know there is a saturation point where the base does not grow. Instead more is being taken out than put in.

Obamas proposed health care plan was formulated on four years of taxes being paid and a delay on the plan actually taking effect. Once revenues from four years were collected then the plan would start. A few more years and the plan would be breaking even. A few more years and it would start to go into debt. At that point you either raise taxes or borrow.

All this assumes during the four years while collecting revenues that the government doesnt raid the fund for some other pressing matter.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: February 10, 2010 07:03PM

p.s. Vince before you start screaming about Republicans or George Bush I do not really care for either party. Both are responsible for excessive spending.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 10:04PM

Tim45 Wrote:
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> You mean a Ponzi scheme like social security,
> medicare and the proposed health care plan. All
> are based on the participants to keep increasing
> and we all know there is a saturation point where
> the base does not grow. Instead more is being
> taken out than put in.
>
> Obamas proposed health care plan was formulated on
> four years of taxes being paid and a delay on the
> plan actually taking effect. Once revenues from
> four years were collected then the plan would
> start. A few more years and the plan would be
> breaking even. A few more years and it would start
> to go into debt. At that point you either raise
> taxes or borrow.
>
> All this assumes during the four years while
> collecting revenues that the government doesnt
> raid the fund for some other pressing matter.


Hardly...those programs were/are as far from Ponzi schemes as you can get. No one ever has or ever will loose a penny invested in them. Any funding issues associated with those programs could be easily eliminated with proper funding. And why have those programs gone under funded? Well...it aint because democrats want them disestablished.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: honest joe ()
Date: February 11, 2010 04:06PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Tim45 Wrote:
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> Hardly...those programs were/are as far from Ponzi
> schemes as you can get.

Well to be fair, there are some similar elements shared between a Ponzi Scheme and Social Security. The fact that the government uses income from current workers to pay benefits to the recipients is just one commone element. The major difference is that Ponzi schemes eventually run out of contributers, Social Security, in theory, should never. Also, no on is misled the same way as in a Ponzi Scheme.

> No one ever has or ever will loose a penny invested in them.

Actually, by my rough caluclations (using today's dollars) I will lose a pretty substantial sum. If I retire at 66 and recieve the max monthly return of $2,346/month and live to the average age of a white male of around 77 or 78, I will take in about $310,000 in SS benefits. I have a ways to go before I hit that age, but I have been self employed a few years now and intend to be that way until retirement. I put aout $13K into Social security each year. My retirement age is more than 20 years away. For the sake of argument, lets assume I continue to do this for about 25 more years. I will have put about $330,000 into the system. That alone exceeds what I will likely withdraw. Also, it doesn't take into account the $80K or so I put into the system or my employers' matches before I became self employed.

So, you can't really guarentee I'll make back what I put in. If I invested even EXTREMELY conservatively, I'd be much better off.

If you want to say I am helping a program that is a security net for those who are less well off, fine, I can buy that, but don't try to tell me I am getting back what I put in.

> Any funding issues associated with those programs could be
> easily eliminated with proper funding. And why
> have those programs gone under funded? Well...it
> aint because democrats want them disestablished.

Did the Dems ever raid the trust fund?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: February 14, 2010 12:52AM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.
>
> Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
> February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm
>
> By BOB LEWIS
> AP Political Writer
>
>
> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected
> black governor is calling for Democratic National
> Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.
>
> In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site
> Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder
> said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of
> reversals in governor's races and special
> congressional elections under Kaine's watch.
>
> In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder
> said his comments about Kaine, whose term as
> Virginia's governor expired last month, were not
> personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with
> Kaine's leadership.
>
> Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack
> Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became
> the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964.
> Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning
> the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005
> when Kaine was elected governor.
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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mother frakker ()
Date: March 08, 2010 12:44PM

Wow, now the Dems are framing their own members up on gay sexual harrassment charges in order to pass healthcare. Stay classy, Nancy and Steny.


On Sunday, the first-term congressman claimed that the "forces that be" orchestrated a character assassination against him to push him out for the sake of the health care bill.

"Mine is now the deciding vote on the health care bill and this administration and this House leadership have said, quote-unquote, they will stop at nothing to pass this health care bill, and now they've gotten rid of me and it will pass. You connect the dots," Massa said.

"The future of the Democratic Party rests on passing this health care bill. They can get anyone to say anything about me concerning anything at all and in fact they did."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:10PM

Those demokrats will stop at nothing in their endless thirst for power. This story about Rahm is priceless. Massa was taking a shower and Rahm walks in naked and touches him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/08/massa_rahm_emanuel_would_sell_his_own_mother_for_votes.html

Don't vote against the health kare / ObamaKare bill because Obama will send Rahm after you naked. A kongress already rife with corruption in their last three years of control of Kapitol Hill has sunk to new lows, sending Obama administration members nude to members of Kongress who oppose them.

Please please bring Bush back, he never sent Karl Rove anywhere naked to touch other men in a shower.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: ruthless ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:16PM

It really does appear that the Dems are eating their young:

“I was set up for this from the very, very beginning,” he said onWKPQ 105.3 FM in New York. “You think that somehow they didn’t come after me to get rid of me because my vote is the deciding vote in the health care bill? Then, ladies and gentlemen, you live today in a world that is so innocent as to not understand what’s going on in Washington, D.C.”

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/Massa-Rahm-Would-Strap-His-Children-to-a-Locamotive-for-a-Vote-86880847.html#ixzz0hbtwAQZ8

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:33PM

They are not satisfied with making sure all children can be killed before birth, they want to make sure they can be killed AFTER birth as well so they can be eaten. That isn't me saying that, that is a New York demokrat claiming they eat their own.

I love that radio spot, tonight I will pour whiskey into my empty shotgun shells and drink those while laughing!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 01:49PM

I realize that the Republicans are okay with sexually harassing employees and all, but ever think that this guy is just trying to divert attention from his own fuck up?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:50PM

Wait... Bill Clinton....

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 01:52PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Wait... Bill Clinton....


Like I said, ever think that this guy is trying to divert attention from his own fuck up?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:00PM

Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a personal issue, not a party one.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 02:10PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a
> personal issue, not a party one.


The guy is trying to divert attention away from the fact that he sexually harassed a male member of his staff. He wants to blame Emmanuel for this, but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems who haven't supported health care to resign.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: messy massa ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:17PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> He wants to blame Emmanuel for this,
> but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems
> who haven't supported health care to resign......

....yet. But, how many other members has Rahm Emmanuel cornered naked in the shower. If you look at Massa's comments, they are certainly inappropriate, but it appears to be making a mountain out of a molehill. Given the situation, he appears to have been goaded into making an off color comment after a night of drinking.

Besides, you only need to force out one to send a message to the others on the fence.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:17PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a
> > personal issue, not a party one.
>
>
> The guy is trying to divert attention away from
> the fact that he sexually harassed a male member
> of his staff. He wants to blame Emmanuel for this,
> but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems
> who haven't supported health care to resign.

Not yet anyways.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fat Filmmaker ()
Date: March 09, 2010 12:20PM

"Democrats on Election Day 2010 are going to get an ass-whoopin' of biblical proportions if things don't change right now." -- Michael Moore

More from Moore:

"Well, you (Obama) and the Democrats have been in charge now for over a year and not one banking regulation has been reinstated. We don't have universal health care. The war in Afghanistan has escalated. And tens of thousands of Americans continue to lose their jobs and be thrown out of their homes. For most of us, it's just simply no longer good enough that Bush is gone. Woo hoo. Bush is gone. Yippee. That hasn't created one new friggin' job."

"I don't know what your team has been up to, but they haven't served you well. And Rahm, poor Rahm, has turned into a fighter -- not of Republicans, but of the left. He called those of us who want universal health care "f***ing retarded." Look, I don't know if Rahm is the problem or if it's Gibbs or Axelrod or any of the other great people we owe a debt of thanks to for getting you elected. All I know is that whatever is fueling your White House it's now running on fumes."

whole letter here - http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/president-obama-replace-rahm-me-open-letter-michael-moore

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 09, 2010 12:55PM

Haha, that letter is great.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 01:23PM

I'm stupid.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 01:26PM

and I'm a Democrat

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 05:19PM

I lied.....I'm a republican....we do that all the time.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 05:59PM

Just kidding. As usual I am just like every other brainless Democrat.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 06:21PM

but srsly, i'm just a gay republican named inka....

like mcdonald's...i'm lovin' it.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 09, 2010 09:27PM

Heh. Even Glenn Beck realizes Massa is a nut...




If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing out that this guy is a loon.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: bling ()
Date: March 10, 2010 04:15AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Heh. Even Glenn Beck realizes Massa is a nut...
>
>
>
>
> If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is
> now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing
> out that this guy is a loon.


+100. LOL.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: speaker's office ()
Date: March 11, 2010 09:48AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is
> now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing
> out that this guy is a loon.

Well, the legs are getting longer on this story. It appears the Speaker's office knew about Massa's harrassing behavior for at least five months before an ethics investigation was started. Why did the Demcratic Leadership in the House allow this to go on for months?


"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office was contacted by a top aide to then-Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) in October with concerns about the lawmaker's behavior toward young, male staffers, a congressional source with knowledge of the investigation into Massa's actions said Wednesday night.

Earlier in the day, the House ethics committee announced that it had closed its investigation of Massa, citing the fact that the Democrat resigned from the House on Monday and was no longer under the panel's jurisdiction.

Joe Racalto, Massa's chief of staff, told Pelosi's director of member services in October that he was uncomfortable with Massa's behavior, specifically that the lawmaker was living with several male staffers and routinely used sexually explicit language with them. The call to Pelosi's director of member services was prompted, according to the source, by the fact that Massa made a lunch date with a young, male staffer who worked in Rep. Barney Frank's (D-Mass.) office.

According to a person briefed on the call, Racalto was concerned that the lunch followed a pattern of Massa trying to spend time alone with young, gay men with no ostensible work purpose. Racalto, according to the source, also alerted Frank's chief of staff at the time.

Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office responded immediately to requests for comment Wednesday night."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 11, 2010 09:53AM

speaker's office Wrote:
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>
> Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office
> responded immediately to requests for comment
> Wednesday night."


That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this shit for years in the Navy and nothing happened to him. At least Pelosi's office took action after a few months. He had an entire career in the Navy and no one did shit.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: speaker's office ()
Date: March 11, 2010 09:59AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> speaker's office Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office
> > responded immediately to requests for comment
> > Wednesday night."
>
>
> That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this shit
> for years in the Navy and nothing happened to him.
> At least Pelosi's office took action after a few
> months. He had an entire career in the Navy and no
> one did shit.

"After a few months?" Seriously, you are fucking deluded. What do you think the whole investigation into Hastert was concerning the Foley incident. He knew months before the ethics investigation. You, sersiously don't see the similarities. Plus, Pelosi's office took ZERO action on the matter. They had to go to Hoyer to get things going. What was Pelosi's office doing this whole time? Setting up Massa on more dates? Looking for more roommates for him?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: tickle me massa ()
Date: March 11, 2010 12:04PM

In hindsight, Democratic insiders wondered about activities that before had just seemed odd. They said Massa hired a surprisingly large percentage of young gay men, and paid them so little that staffers were forced to live in the house with him.

"The guy's a freak," a close friend of one embattled Massa aide told the Daily News.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 11, 2010 12:06PM

I guess he figured if Barney Frank could run a brothel, this kind of behavior was fairly tame.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: infighting continues ()
Date: March 11, 2010 02:29PM

Infighting is sparked by earmark ban

By Susan Crabtree and Roxana Tiron - 03/10/10 08:19 PM ET

Democratic appropriators in the Senate and House are fighting over a ban on earmarks to for-profit companies, throwing a wrench in a House attempt to burnish its ethics record before the midterm elections.

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), the chairman of the Senate’s Appropriations Committee, slammed House Appropriations Chairman David Obey’s (D-Wis.) moratorium on earmarks to for-profit companies mere hours after Obey announced it on Wednesday.

Inouye’s decision puts House Democratic leaders in an awkward position and could create a protracted fight over the fiscal 2011 spending bills.

The prospect of an intra-party battle between the two chambers on earmark reform also could delay the approval of appropriations bills until after the November elections.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: CBC upset with Rahmbama ()
Date: March 11, 2010 02:39PM

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus are headed to the White House for a meeting on jobs Thursday, and they’ll have a few words to say about how President Barack Obama is doing his.

The 43-member caucus is fighting through one of the most difficult periods in its 39-year history, and some members and aides said they’re getting far too little support from the nation’s first black president — a man they once believed would be their strongest champion.


House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) told POLITICO that White House officials are “not listening” to black lawmakers.


Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) said “there’s not enough attention to poor people.”


And Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) said: “While I respect President Obama, delivering victories for his political future should be the least of our worries on Capitol Hill.”

Aides to CBC members said tensions between black lawmakers and the White House have risen in recent months as the caucus has tried to address the extraordinarily high unemployment rate among African-Americans, while navigating a succession of ethical issues — including the ethics committee ruling that cost CBC member Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) his chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee last week.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34239.html#ixzz0htmKEbPF

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: teh hypocrisy ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:10PM

speaker's office Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > speaker's office Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's
> office
> > > responded immediately to requests for comment
> > > Wednesday night."
> >
> >
> > That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this
> shit
> > for years in the Navy and nothing happened to
> him.
> > At least Pelosi's office took action after a
> few
> > months. He had an entire career in the Navy and
> no
> > one did shit.
>
> "After a few months?" Seriously, you are fucking
> deluded. What do you think the whole
> investigation into Hastert was concerning the
> Foley incident. He knew months before the ethics
> investigation. You, sersiously don't see the
> similarities. Plus, Pelosi's office took ZERO
> action on the matter. They had to go to Hoyer to
> get things going. What was Pelosi's office doing
> this whole time? Setting up Massa on more dates?
> Looking for more roommates for him?

Who cares? Is this more offensive than a Congressman who sexts young boys? No.
Didn't the GOP wait months to investigate and disclose Foley's actions? Yes.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Reading is FUNdamental ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:18PM

teh hypocrisy Wrote:
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> Didn't the GOP wait months to investigate and
> disclose Foley's actions? Yes.

I see you can hit the quote button, but can you read?

"What do you think the whole investigation into Hastert was concerning the Foley incident? He knew months before the ethics investigation."

Speaking of hypocrisy.......

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Taking Names and Breaking Laws ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:27PM

The Obama administration may have broken the law by offering Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) a job in order to persuade him not to mount a primary challenge against Sen. Arlen Specter.


Sestak has said that the administration offered him a high-ranking government job if he’d stay out of the race. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs has been asked repeatedly about the accusation in recent weeks but so far has neither confirmed nor denied that a job was offered.


But in a letter to White House general counsel Robert Bauer Wednesday, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said that, if Sestak’s allegation is true, administration officials may have violated a federal statute which makes it a crime for a government employee to use his authority “for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate” for certain offices, including Senate seats.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34221.html#ixzz0huDNiPSy

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Caddell & Schoen ()
Date: March 12, 2010 02:18PM

Their blind persistence in the face of reality threatens to turn this political march of folly into an electoral rout in November. In the wake of the stinging loss in Massachusetts, there was a moment when the president and the Democratic leadership seemed to realize the reality of the health-care situation. Yet like some seductive siren of Greek mythology, the lure of health-care reform has arisen again.

As pollsters to the past two Democratic presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, respectively, we feel compelled to challenge the myths that seem to be prevailing in the political discourse and to once again urge a change in course before it is too late. At stake is the kind of mainstream, common-sense Democratic Party that we believe is crucial to the success of the American enterprise.

Unless the Democrats fundamentally change their approach, they will produce not just a march of folly but also run the risk of unmitigated disaster in November.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102904.html



Bluntly put, this is the political reality:

First, the battle for public opinion has been lost. Comprehensive health care has been lost. If it fails, as appears possible, Democrats will face the brunt of the electorate's reaction. If it passes, however, Democrats will face a far greater calamitous reaction at the polls. Wishing, praying or pretending will not change these outcomes.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:35AM

Last week's report was worse than it appeared; the latest health care wrinkle would damage things further.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/jobs-false-improvement-proposed-destruction/?singlepage=true
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...
Harry Reid could have tried to tell us how great February’s NSA 473,000-job pickup was. In context, it wasn’t that great at all. In fact, as you can see above, it came in lower than February 2008, when the people at the National Bureau of Economic Research say we were in the third month of an economic recession as they define it (as normal people define it, the recession didn’t begin until the third quarter of 2008). Moreover, it was 241,000 jobs lower than the February 2004-2008 average. If the employment situation were really in recovery in February, that difference would have been almost zero. Beyond that, February’s actual result using this metric was far worse than January’s, when the result only trailed the January 2004-2008 average by 72,000.

This isn’t an improvement; it’s a serious deterioration.

The only reason February’s SA number of -36,000 came in as low as it did (but still worse than January’s) is that the SA calculation took February 2009’s free-fall result into account, making it a statistically correct result that confuses more than it enlightens. Further evidence supporting that point is that the SA result for February 2010 is better than February 2008, which as already shown based on what really happened, doesn’t reflect the underlying reality.
...

We will have to see what the next 6 months brings. But based on those numbers, February was still BAD. An improvement compared to some of the previous months, sure, but there still job LOSSES in a month when normally we would have significant net gains of jobs. Especially when comparing Jan 2010 result of only a -72,000 job difference on average, to the Feb 2010 result of -241,000 job difference to the average. All the health care legislation is causing businesses to hold off hiring as well. Part-time hiring will be significantly different if this legislation passes as well - and likely will suffer because of it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:43AM

Related...

A Big Snow Job
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=525658
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...
We're sad to say, the picture is even worse than it appears.

Take that "only 36,000" figure. The real number is actually 51,000 jobs lost, because the government counts 15,000 temporary workers hired by the Census as new jobs. But these jobs aren't, in any meaningful sense, real full-time jobs.

Would things have been better without all the snow? Undoubtedly. But we still would have lost jobs.

Then of course there's the very definition of unemployment.

If you count those who are discouraged or working part-time when they want a full-time job, the jobless rate soars to 16.8%.

Private sector employment gauges pretty much show the same thing. For instance, the pollsters at Gallup each month ask Americans questions about their employment. In February, the Gallup report shows, some 19.8% of Americans reported that they were underemployed or not employed at all.

That's one out of five workers — and even more than the 15 million unemployed estimated by the government.

What's troubling is the obliviousness of Washington to this problem — the utter cluelessness they have about the most basic economic principles that guide our economy.
...

The DC area is oblivious to the reality. Check places like Danville and other rural area of Virginia and you will find it is much worse then here. And that is just in Virginia.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:44AM

Healthcare
Global Warming
Foreign Policy

Can the fox "news" bobble heads please stop reading the republican party talking points and think for "themselves"? I doubt it.

And what is Rupert Murdock's response to all these issues>

Invade Iran...North Korea
Build hunders of nuclear power plants
Drill baby drill

The same old crap designed to feed the power structure!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:47AM

Yeah, other than invading Iran (which no one has been calling for) - feeding the power structure creates jobs you moron. Russia just committed to building 12 nuclear power plants in India. That is some serious job creation right there.

Drilling in America is a good thing, because we would actually produce a commodity that people want to purchase, thus driving our trade deficits down. Another GOOD thing for the economy.

You are such a fucking moron. Seriously, you should go on a national talk show and try to peddle the BS you spread here. You would be laughed out on your ass so fast it isn't even funny.

EDIT: BTW - where ARE the republican party talking points? I have never seen them. Common sense is all it takes to come to these conclusions.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:54AM

The Budget That Devoured America?
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=527054
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Federal Spending: It's a good thing President Obama isn't in the private sector. If he was, the budget he just put forward for the next 10 years just might get him indicted for fraud.

Of all the promises the president made during the 2008 presidential campaign and last year's budget debates, none rings so hollow now as the pledge of "fiscal responsibility."

...

Spending, of course, is the big reason. As David Freddoso of the Washington Examiner points out, the budget plan submitted by the president shows spending growing each and every year over the next decade — despite the worst fiscal crisis of our nation's history.

All told, spending will swell from $3.5 trillion, or 20% of GDP, in 2009 to $5.7 trillion, or 25.2% of GDP, in 2020. Since World War II, debt has averaged 20% of GDP, so the 2020 projection represents a permanent increase of 25% in the size of government that will weigh like a millstone around the economy's neck. Spending over the next 10 years will balloon by $19.7 trillion.

Amazing. How do you propose that large an increase in spending over the years - an increase - knowing that you are already in debt up to your ears, and no end in sight of deficits. It is like these folks are totally disconnected from reality - well in fact they are.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:55AM

Drilling in America is the equivalent of deficit spending. Drill today to satisfy today's problem...forget that perhaps in a hundred years our military....our economy may need those resources even more then they do today...when there is a real shortage. There is no shortage of oil today...we just want our cheap oil now..and fuck the future...fuck our kids...fuck our grandkids. Id rather burn a gallon of oil pumopd out of the ground in Canada..venezuelia...Saudi Arabia then U.S. soil. If we are concerned about reducing our dependence on oil...alternative fuels...is the answer..not drill baby drill.

You double moron!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:02AM

Ooh - I am a "double moron" lol. Wow V - please, don't be so insulting huh?

Nice comeback with your NON FACTUAL response as usual. I guaranty you that this deficit spending and budget crisis will far overshadow any issue oil will cause in the future. They are moving to get more alternative energy in place, and recent breakthroughs in battery design and types, along with natural gas will make a huge difference in our ability to transition to whatever future energy we can develop. There is quite a bit of money invested in alternative energy research right now. And no amount of drilling in the US will change that.

What you fail to comprehend in that single celled brain of yours Vince is that the fundamental reality and perception on the ground has changed. Everyone (except you) understands that if we don't drill soon, we will have $8-$10/gallon or more gasoline prices in the near future, and it will bring our economy to a halt. Even the gloomy and dire predictions you hear today over the budget issues will pale in comparison if we don't keep the energy prices in check while we transition to something else.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:04AM

Triple moron...you are nothing but a fox "news" tool....we could pump every drop of oil out of our ground and the effect on price would be minimal. China...India demand is growing faster then anyone can pump out of the ground.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:05AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Triple moron...you are nothing but a fox "news"
> tool....we could pump every drop of oil out of our
> ground and the effect on price would be minimal.
> China...India demand is growing faster then anyone
> can pump out of the ground.

OOh - OK. You "told me" didn't you!

LOLOLOLOLOL

Classic.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:16AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL...classic triple back at you!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:36AM

Here is one of the innovations and a company that would be great to invest in once they go public.

Infinite Power Solutions, Inc
http://www.infinitepowersolutions.com/

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: one less vote ()
Date: March 18, 2010 10:45AM

Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, says a proposed parliamentary move to pass health-care reform would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility of Congress.

In a sign of how tough it’s been for Pelosi to round up votes for the massive bill, Lynch - a South Boston Democrat who supported a House reform package last year - said he’ll probably vote against a key Senate version of the legislation, unless unexpected major changes are made soon.

Lynch, who serves as one of Pelosi’s key vote counters, said he also can’t support a proposed “deem and pass” procedure that would allow Democrats to vote to strip out controversial portions of the Senate bill and then “deem” that the entire package has passed without a second, direct vote.

“It’s disingenuous,” said Lynch, who considers unfair a Senate provision to tack a surcharge on higher-end health plans. “It would really call into question the credibility of the House.”

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 18, 2010 10:50AM

one less vote Wrote:
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> Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor
> whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, says a proposed
> parliamentary move to pass health-care reform
> would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility
> of Congress.
>

Congress is at a 17 percent approval rating now. Would that seriously be a consideration?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: one less vote ()
Date: March 18, 2010 02:20PM

Nevermind. I cannot debate with you, WTL. I am a fragile, weakminded Republican. Please show mercy on me.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Herseth Sandlin ()
Date: March 18, 2010 05:07PM

Top Blue Dog: Slaughter solution is 'poison'
By Eric Zimmermann - 03/18/10 02:19 PM ET

The co-chairwoman of the Blue Dog Coalition says that using a controversial "deem and pass" mechanism to pass healthcare reform would be "poison."


In a conference call with reporters today, Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), who is a "firm no" on the bill itself, said the process Democrats are considering would spell disaster for the climate in Congress.

"While deeming, like reconciliation, has been used by Republicans and Democrats in the past, the context in which it would be used in this case leads me to conclude that it would poison an already terribly partisan atmosphere and leave the Congress even less able to find bipartisan solutions to fiscal problems that are on the verge of becoming overwhelming," Herseth Sandlin said.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: March 18, 2010 06:23PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Congress is at a 17 percent approval rating now.


it could be worse... barely.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: NY Times ()
Date: April 26, 2010 10:23AM

ASHLAND, Wis. — Representative David R. Obey has won 21 straight races, easily prevailing through wars and economic crises that have spanned presidencies from Nixon’s to Obama’s. Yet the discontent with Washington surging through politics is now threatening not only his seat but also Democratic control of Congress.

Mr. Obey is one of nearly a dozen well-established House Democrats who are bracing for something they rarely face: serious competition. Their predicament is the latest sign of distress for their party and underlines why Republicans are confident of making big gains in November and perhaps even winning back the House.

The fight for the midterm elections is not confined to traditional battlegrounds, where Republicans and Democrats often swap seats every few cycles. In the Senate, Democrats are struggling to hold on to, among others, seats once held by President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Democrats are preparing to lose as many as 30 House seats — including a wave of first-term members — and Republicans have expanded their sights to places where political challenges seldom develop.

Mr. Obey, who leads the powerful Appropriations Committee, is one of three House Democratic chairmen who have drawn serious opposition. Representatives John M. Spratt Jr. of South Carolina, who oversees the Budget Committee, and Ike Skelton of Missouri, who runs the Armed Services Committee, have been warned by party leaders to step up the intensity of their campaigns to help preserve the Democratic majority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25campaign.html?hp

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 26, 2010 11:07AM

I dont care if Republicans take over both Houses of Congress...at least they made my 2008 vote count for something....healthcare.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Larks ()
Date: April 26, 2010 11:15AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I dont care if Republicans take over both Houses
> of Congress...at least they made my 2008 vote
> count for something....healthcare.


Do you know where you're going when the devil starts to sweat?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Billinois ()
Date: May 03, 2010 12:04PM

This guy Scott Lee Cohen is a real jewel. Way to go Dems:

* The charges assert that Cohen held a knife to the throat of his ex-girlfriend, a prostitute.

* The court documents alleged that Cohen tried to force his ex-wife to have sex with him. "On May 9, 2005, after having confessed to several affairs he had, he tried to have sex with me, and despite my refusals, he tried to force himself on me until I pushed him away and emphatically told him no," his ex-wife alleged. "In fact, I had been having family members, including my mom and sister, stay with me for the past several weeks because I'm afraid to be home alone with him."




CHICAGO, May 3 (UPI) -- Scott Lee Cohen, who withdrew as a candidate for lieutenant governor after winning the primary, says he will run as an independent for Illinois governor.

The millionaire pawnbroker won the Democratic primary for the state's No. 2 job but withdrew after domestic abuse allegations and his relationship with a prostitute were unearthed by the media. Cohen also admitted using steroids, allegedly failed to make child-support payments and has been named in dozens of lawsuits involving back taxes.

Cohen said he decided to run because he's tired of waste and mismanagement in government. He also said he wants to change the business climate, saying Illinois has few incentives to offer businesses, WBBM-AM, Chicago, reported.

Cohen surprised party leaders by winning the Feb. 2 primary. He was replaced on the ticket by Sheila Simon, the daughter of former Illinois Sen. Paul Simon.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: bite your ear ()
Date: May 03, 2010 12:10PM

Billionaire will seek Florida Senate seat
Jeff Greene, a flamboyant real estate executive who made more than half a billion dollars betting against the housing market, will announce tomorrow he is seeking the Democratic nomination for Senate in Florida, scrambling an already crowded, high-profile, and expensive race, a source close to his camp said Thursday night.

Greene will challenge Miami Rep. Kendrick Meek for the Democratic nomination in a race that will feature frontrunning Marco Rubio as the Republican nominee and Governor Charlie Crist as an independent.

Meek has the firm support of the national Democratic establishment, who fear that despite Greene's billions, his subprime gamble and his lifestyle -- Mike Tyson was the best man at his wedding -- make him unelectable. But Meek has generated little excitement and trails in polls. And Greene may be able to capitalize on a national disgust with insiders and career politicians, a tactic being taken by another wealthy outsider in the state, former hospital executive Rick Scott, who is seeking the Republican nomination for Governor in Florida's manic political scene.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: NC Bluedogs ()
Date: May 05, 2010 12:29PM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.

Here is another one.

N.C. Reps. Shuler and Kissell win, but with strong showings from unknown challengers
By Sean J. Miller - 05/04/10 09:27 PM ET

Democratic Reps. Heath Shuler and Larry Kissell of North Carolina appear to be feeling the heat from their party's base. Both voted against healthcare reform and each ceded almost 40 percent of the primary vote to virtually unknown challengers.

Shuler bested challenger Aixa Wilson by about 60 percent to 40 percent, according to unofficial results, but Wilson edged Schuler by almost 600 votes in Buncombe County, home of Asheville.


Kissell defeated challenger Nancy Shakir 63 to 37 percent.

Meanwhile, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) cruised to the nomination with some 80 percent of the vote, according to the unofficial results. The Democratic primary has broken into a two-way race between Secretary of State Elaine Marshall and former state Sen. Cal Cunningham.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Cheesehead ()
Date: May 05, 2010 01:57PM

In a major blow to Democrats, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey announced that he will not seek reelection, saying he is “ready to turn the page” after a four-decade House career.


The Wisconsin Democrat faces tough poll numbers at home, but until Tuesday night his staff had insisted he was running aggressively and had hired campaign staff. But a person close to him confirmed the decision to POLITICO Wednesday morning, and Obey made the announcement official at a 1 p.m. press conference.


“I’m ready to turn the page and I think frankly that my district is ready for someone new to make a fresh start,” Obey said. “… Frankly, I am bone tired.”


Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a close friend, was informed by Obey of his decision Wednesday morning.


Elected in 1969, the liberal is a major institutional figure who played a leading role in the anti-war and reform movement of the House in the 1970’s. As the Appropriations chairman, he has been a close Pelosi ally who came up through the same panel before moving into the leadership. And his departure follows on the death of Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) this winter, a second Pelosi ally and veteran of the powerful committee.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36812.html#ixzz0n4xbMbHr

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Shitty of Brotherly Love ()
Date: May 06, 2010 11:44AM

More Dem infighting in PA.


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Low Turnout ()
Date: May 06, 2010 01:01PM

And more bad news keeps rolling in.....


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Dem Turnout Falls Off A Cliff
May 5, 2010 10:18 AM | Permalink | Comments (51) | Share This

By Reid Wilson
Turnout among Dem voters dropped precipitously in 3 statewide primaries on Tuesday, giving the party more evidence that their voters lack enthusiasm ahead of midterm elections.

In primaries in NC, IN and OH, Dems turned out at far lower rates than they have in previous comparable elections.

Just 663K OH voters cast ballots in the competitive primary between LG Lee Fisher (D) and Sec/State Jennifer Brunner (D). That number is lower than the 872K voters who turned out in '06, when neither Gov. Ted Strickland (D) nor Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) faced serious primary opponents.

Only 425K voters turned out to pick a nominee against Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). The 14.4% turnout was smaller than the 444K voters -- or 18% of all registered Dem voters -- who turned out in '04, when Gov. Mike Easley (D) faced only a gadfly candidate in his bid to be renominated for a second term.

And in IN, just 204K Hoosiers voted for Dem House candidates, far fewer than the 357K who turned out in '02 and the 304K who turned out in '06.

By contrast, GOP turnout was up almost across the board. 373K people voted in Burr's uncompetitive primary, nearly 9% higher than the 343K who voted in the equally non-competitive primary in '04. Turnout in House races in IN rose 14.6% from '06, fueled by the competitive Senate primary, which attracted 550K voters. And 728K voters cast ballots for a GOP Sec/State nominee in Ohio, the highest-ranking statewide election with a primary; in '06, just 444K voters cast ballots in that race.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: May 06, 2010 01:44PM

Voter turnout is always important. There is no doubt that republicans are energized to get and vote during these midterm elections. They will undoubtedly gain some seats...maybe even a majority in one of the houses. But here's the thing...it'll be just another 2 years when Obama will be running again....and he will get out the democratic vote. Especially if a House or Senate controlled by Republicans gives him the fodder to say "if only I had both houses"...the proof is in the pudding..this session of COngress will go down as an historically active Congress...after 2 years of epublicans being nothing but obstructionists...they'll be ready for a big ass whippin come 2012. I cant wait.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Sestak ()
Date: May 09, 2010 11:08PM

By Mary E. Young
Reading Eagle

U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak of Delaware County, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate seat, speaks Saturday to a crowd of about 100 at the GoggleWorks Center for the Arts.

The latest poll results show the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate is within reach, U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak told a cheering crowd Saturday.

Sestak, who is facing Sen. Arlen Specter in the May 18 primary election, said he appreciates Specter's 30 years of service, but visits to all 67 counties last summer showed that people want changes in policy and politics.

"It's time to move forward," Sestak told about 100 people gathered on the parking lot at the GoggleWorks Center for the Arts. "There has to be a change."

The poll by Muhlenberg College's Polling Institute shows that in the last week Sestak went from trailing Specter by 6 points to being 2 points ahead. Forty-four percent of Democrats surveyed now favor Sestak vs. 42 percent for Specter, the poll found.

Sestak said President Barack Obama was elected because people wanted a leader who was there because of his convictions, not his politics.

They want good policies on issues such as health care, education and economic security, he said.

Before Sestak spoke, Reading activists Carolina Tejada and Bernardo Carbajal warmed up the crowd.

"Our city is suffering," Tejada said. "Our economy is weak. Our schools are impoverished. Our businesses are closing down. Our children are at risk, as well as our seniors. It's not just here in the city of Reading, but everywhere in Pennsylvania.

"It's time for us to choose the best. Joe Sestak is the best."

Afterward, Sestak said he wants to be an ally to Obama, but would not be a yes man if he disagreed with the policy Obama wanted to set.

People want someone they can trust to do the right thing, he said.

"They want someone to be a public servant, not a politician," Sestak said.

Sestak said he thinks he has gained ground in the polls because the nearly 550 events he's attended since January has boosted his name recognition.

And, Specter, 80, of Philadelphia switched parties because he believed he couldn't get re-elected as a Republican.

He has to run on a record that often was aligned with George W. Bush, Sestak said.

Sestak, 58, of Edgmont Township, Delaware County, is a retired Navy admiral.

He is in his second two-year term in the House.

U.S. senators serve six-year terms, and are paid $174,000 annually.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Bubba From Hope ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:07AM

And here we have the more progressive wing of the Democratic Party attacking their moderate members......


LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — For Arkansas voters, the names on the ballot in the Democratic Senate primary election next week will be well known: U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, the two-term incumbent, and her opponent, Lt. Gov. Bill Halter, the father of the state's lottery. But the campaign they have waged is like nothing Arkansas has seen before.

In a state known for face-to-face politics where candidates make the rounds of small-town events like the Gillett Coon Supper and the Slovak Oyster Supper, the race for Lincoln's Senate seat has been overwhelmed by a multimillion-dollar, televised proxy battle among some of the nation's largest interest groups for supremacy in the Democratic Party.

The race has become a referendum on key parts of the national Democratic agenda, including the health care overhaul, climate change regulations and union organizing. Democratic activists hope it will settle whether conservative Democrats like Lincoln can go their own way as members elsewhere fight for the party's most progressive goals. Also in question is whether populist, union-backed candidates like Halter can win in a conservative state.

The primary election race has already cost more than Lincoln's entire 2004 campaign. Outside interest groups have spent more than $2.1 million on television ads in the last few months. Total TV spending, including the candidates' spots, reached $5 million before early voting began last week, according to Kantar CMAG, which tracks political ads.

Most polls have shown Lincoln leading but not by enough to win outright in the May 18 primary. A third candidate, Little Rock businessman D.C. Morrison, could force a runoff between Halter and Lincoln. Polls also show Republican U.S. Rep. John Boozman leading among the eight Republicans seeking the GOP nomination for Lincoln's seat.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Take Me Home Country Roads ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:13AM

And here we have a Democrat getting close to knocking off an incumbent because the incumbent Democrate isn't conservative enough.

Am I reading that right? The Democrat is connected to the Tea Party?


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Alan Mollohan, the incumbent Democrat from West Virginia's 1st Congressional district, is facing perhaps his toughest re-election in nearly three decades in Congress.

Mollohan is squaring off today in the Democratic primary against state Sen. Mike Oliverio, an upstart who's put the incumbent on the defensive over his record in Washington. A recent television ad from Oliverio slammed Mollohan as "one of the most corrupt members of Congress." The state legislator has also skewered Mollohan for his vote in favor of health care reform and for initially supporting cap-and-trade.

And Mollohan has been criticized for his propensity as an Appropriations subcommittee chairman to steer millions of dollars in earmarks to the district. Once seen as a virtue in a congressman's re-election campaign, earmarks this year have become symbolic of overspending by Washington.

Despite the challenge from his right, Mollohan is receiving help from the National Rifle Association, which is reaching out to voters in the district to highlight his 100 percent voting record and "A+" rating with the organization.

He's also responded with a TV ad, calling Oliverio "right wing" and tying him to the Tea Party and the state Republican Party.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Robin's Nest ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:44AM

Dems really can't get their shit together. They are about to lose a seat that has been reliably Democratic since it came into existence except for four years. It is also the Congressional District of Obama's birth and youth.

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Dems may abandon House race in Hawaii
By DAVID ESPO (AP) – 4 days ago

WASHINGTON — Despite spending more than $300,000, frustrated House Democrats may abandon efforts to win a special election in Hawaii after quiet diplomacy failed to end a high-level party feud that threatens their prospects.

"It's an extremely difficult race, since two Democratic candidates are splitting the vote," said Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

"The local Democrats haven't been able to come together and resolve that, so we'll have to re-evaluate our participation."

Recent public and private polls show Republican Charles Djou ahead in a race to fill out the remaining few months in the term of former Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who left Congress earlier this year to run for governor.

Djou's rivals include former Democratic Rep. Ed Case, runner-up in the polls, and fellow Democrat Colleen Hanabusa, the state Senate president, who trails further behind in a race with more than a dozen candidates in all. The winner-take-all race is by mail ballot, which must be received by election officials by May 22.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: WV Woes ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:09AM

and the implosion grows worse......


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WASHINGTON — Representative Alan Mollohan, a 14-term Democrat, has become the first House member of the 2010 campaign to lose a re-election bid after a West Virginia state senator defeated him.

Unofficial returns from Tuesday's election showed state Senator Mike Oliverio leading Mollohan 56 percent to 44 percent in the primary vote to become the Democratic Party's candidate for mid-term elections in November.

Oliverio accused Mollohan, who has held his post for nearly three decades, of being a corrupt and out-of-touch Washington politician in an election year where anti-incumbent sentiment is running high.

The race turned ugly, with Oliverio labeling Mollohan, first elected in 1982 to a seat long held by his father, as "one of the most corrupt members of Congress," charges the incumbent dismissed as lies.

Mollohan, 66, came under fire from anti-abortion activists for his support of the Democrats' sweeping healthcare reform bill and was criticized in coal-heavy West Virginia for his eleventh-hour opposition to climate change legislation.

"This was a tough and spirited primary process and we are confident that this historically Democratic seat will remain Democratic this November," Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Chris Van Hollen said in a statement.

"On behalf of the DCCC, I thank Alan for friendship and his outstanding years of service to our country and West Virginia."

Oliverio, 46, will face former state Republican Party chairman David McKinley in this fall's mid-term elections.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:10AM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.
>
> Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
> February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm
>
> By BOB LEWIS
> AP Political Writer
>
>
> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected
> black governor is calling for Democratic National
> Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.
>
> In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site
> Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder
> said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of
> reversals in governor's races and special
> congressional elections under Kaine's watch.
>
> In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder
> said his comments about Kaine, whose term as
> Virginia's governor expired last month, were not
> personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with
> Kaine's leadership.
>
> Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack
> Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became
> the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964.
> Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning
> the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005
> when Kaine was elected governor.


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:12AM

infighting continues Wrote:
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> Infighting is sparked by earmark ban
>
> By Susan Crabtree and Roxana Tiron - 03/10/10
> 08:19 PM ET
>
> Democratic appropriators in the Senate and House
> are fighting over a ban on earmarks to for-profit
> companies, throwing a wrench in a House attempt to
> burnish its ethics record before the midterm
> elections.
>
> Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), the chairman of the
> Senate’s Appropriations Committee, slammed House
> Appropriations Chairman David Obey’s (D-Wis.)
> moratorium on earmarks to for-profit companies
> mere hours after Obey announced it on Wednesday.
>
> Inouye’s decision puts House Democratic leaders in
> an awkward position and could create a protracted
> fight over the fiscal 2011 spending bills.
>
> The prospect of an intra-party battle between the
> two chambers on earmark reform also could delay
> the approval of appropriations bills until after
> the November elections.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:13AM

People are starting to wake up to the fact that the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few more months and let's talk again in October.




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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:13AM

Billinois Wrote:
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> This guy Scott Lee Cohen is a real jewel. Way to
> go Dems:
>
> * The charges assert that Cohen held a knife to
> the throat of his ex-girlfriend, a prostitute.
>
> * The court documents alleged that Cohen tried to
> force his ex-wife to have sex with him. "On May 9,
> 2005, after having confessed to several affairs he
> had, he tried to have sex with me, and despite my
> refusals, he tried to force himself on me until I
> pushed him away and emphatically told him no," his
> ex-wife alleged. "In fact, I had been having
> family members, including my mom and sister, stay
> with me for the past several weeks because I'm
> afraid to be home alone with him."
>
>
>
>
> CHICAGO, May 3 (UPI) -- Scott Lee Cohen, who
> withdrew as a candidate for lieutenant governor
> after winning the primary, says he will run as an
> independent for Illinois governor.
>
> The millionaire pawnbroker won the Democratic
> primary for the state's No. 2 job but withdrew
> after domestic abuse allegations and his
> relationship with a prostitute were unearthed by
> the media. Cohen also admitted using steroids,
> allegedly failed to make child-support payments
> and has been named in dozens of lawsuits involving
> back taxes.
>
> Cohen said he decided to run because he's tired of
> waste and mismanagement in government. He also
> said he wants to change the business climate,
> saying Illinois has few incentives to offer
> businesses, WBBM-AM, Chicago, reported.
>
> Cohen surprised party leaders by winning the Feb.
> 2 primary. He was replaced on the ticket by Sheila
> Simon, the daughter of former Illinois Sen. Paul
> Simon.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:14AM

NY Times Wrote:
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> ASHLAND, Wis. — Representative David R. Obey has
> won 21 straight races, easily prevailing through
> wars and economic crises that have spanned
> presidencies from Nixon’s to Obama’s. Yet the
> discontent with Washington surging through
> politics is now threatening not only his seat but
> also Democratic control of Congress.
>
> Mr. Obey is one of nearly a dozen well-established
> House Democrats who are bracing for something they
> rarely face: serious competition. Their
> predicament is the latest sign of distress for
> their party and underlines why Republicans are
> confident of making big gains in November and
> perhaps even winning back the House.
>
> The fight for the midterm elections is not
> confined to traditional battlegrounds, where
> Republicans and Democrats often swap seats every
> few cycles. In the Senate, Democrats are
> struggling to hold on to, among others, seats once
> held by President Obama and Vice President Joseph
> R. Biden Jr. Democrats are preparing to lose as
> many as 30 House seats — including a wave of
> first-term members — and Republicans have expanded
> their sights to places where political challenges
> seldom develop.
>
> Mr. Obey, who leads the powerful Appropriations
> Committee, is one of three House Democratic
> chairmen who have drawn serious opposition.
> Representatives John M. Spratt Jr. of South
> Carolina, who oversees the Budget Committee, and
> Ike Skelton of Missouri, who runs the Armed
> Services Committee, have been warned by party
> leaders to step up the intensity of their
> campaigns to help preserve the Democratic
> majority.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25ca
> mpaign.html?hp



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:14AM

WHy would I post something anonymously when I can actually put my name on it? If you think I would post anonymously obviously you know little about me trolltard.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:15AM

Low Turnout Wrote:
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> And more bad news keeps rolling in.....
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Dem Turnout Falls Off A Cliff
> May 5, 2010 10:18 AM | Permalink | Comments (51) |
> Share This
>
> By Reid Wilson
> Turnout among Dem voters dropped precipitously in
> 3 statewide primaries on Tuesday, giving the party
> more evidence that their voters lack enthusiasm
> ahead of midterm elections.
>
> In primaries in NC, IN and OH, Dems turned out at
> far lower rates than they have in previous
> comparable elections.
>
> Just 663K OH voters cast ballots in the
> competitive primary between LG Lee Fisher (D) and
> Sec/State Jennifer Brunner (D). That number is
> lower than the 872K voters who turned out in '06,
> when neither Gov. Ted Strickland (D) nor Sen.
> Sherrod Brown (D) faced serious primary
> opponents.
>
> Only 425K voters turned out to pick a nominee
> against Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). The 14.4%
> turnout was smaller than the 444K voters -- or 18%
> of all registered Dem voters -- who turned out in
> '04, when Gov. Mike Easley (D) faced only a gadfly
> candidate in his bid to be renominated for a
> second term.
>
> And in IN, just 204K Hoosiers voted for Dem House
> candidates, far fewer than the 357K who turned out
> in '02 and the 304K who turned out in '06.
>
> By contrast, GOP turnout was up almost across the
> board. 373K people voted in Burr's uncompetitive
> primary, nearly 9% higher than the 343K who voted
> in the equally non-competitive primary in '04.
> Turnout in House races in IN rose 14.6% from '06,
> fueled by the competitive Senate primary, which
> attracted 550K voters. And 728K voters cast
> ballots for a GOP Sec/State nominee in Ohio, the
> highest-ranking statewide election with a primary;
> in '06, just 444K voters cast ballots in that
> race.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:15AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WHy would I post something anonymously when I can
> actually put my name on it? If you think I would
> post anonymously obviously you know little about
> me trolltard.


You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates you were trolling.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:16AM

WV Woes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> and the implosion grows worse......
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> WASHINGTON — Representative Alan Mollohan, a
> 14-term Democrat, has become the first House
> member of the 2010 campaign to lose a re-election
> bid after a West Virginia state senator defeated
> him.
>
> Unofficial returns from Tuesday's election showed
> state Senator Mike Oliverio leading Mollohan 56
> percent to 44 percent in the primary vote to
> become the Democratic Party's candidate for
> mid-term elections in November.
>
> Oliverio accused Mollohan, who has held his post
> for nearly three decades, of being a corrupt and
> out-of-touch Washington politician in an election
> year where anti-incumbent sentiment is running
> high.
>
> The race turned ugly, with Oliverio labeling
> Mollohan, first elected in 1982 to a seat long
> held by his father, as "one of the most corrupt
> members of Congress," charges the incumbent
> dismissed as lies.
>
> Mollohan, 66, came under fire from anti-abortion
> activists for his support of the Democrats'
> sweeping healthcare reform bill and was criticized
> in coal-heavy West Virginia for his eleventh-hour
> opposition to climate change legislation.
>
> "This was a tough and spirited primary process and
> we are confident that this historically Democratic
> seat will remain Democratic this November,"
> Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
> chairman Chris Van Hollen said in a statement.
>
> "On behalf of the DCCC, I thank Alan for
> friendship and his outstanding years of service to
> our country and West Virginia."
>
> Oliverio, 46, will face former state Republican
> Party chairman David McKinley in this fall's
> mid-term elections.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.
>

Obama has been talking like a centrist lately. That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he can paint oil companies as bad guys so that takes some pressure off him also - but he still has a ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays below 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010 elections.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.


So, you are contending that they are still in love with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much so that they are outsting them in primaries?

They are starting to wake up. I just don't think you like what they are waking up to. I think you'll like it even less when you wake up November 3.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:17AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHy would I post something anonymously when I
> can
> > actually put my name on it? If you think I
> would
> > post anonymously obviously you know little
> about
> > me trolltard.
>
>
> You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates
> you were trolling.

Actually WTL it makes you look like the troll.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:18AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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>
> Obama has been talking like a centrist lately.
> That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he
> can paint oil companies as bad guys so that takes
> some pressure off him also - but he still has a
> ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays below
> 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010
> elections.

This is true. But it will be above 50 percent come November.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:18AM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WHy would I post something anonymously when I can
> actually put my name on it? If you think I would
> post anonymously obviously you know little about
> me trolltard.


Authentic RV post in an attempt to claim deniability for anonymous RV posts

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:19AM

Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:

>
> So, you are contending that they are still in love
> with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much so
> that they are outsting them in primaries?
>
> They are starting to wake up. I just don't think
> you like what they are waking up to. I think
> you'll like it even less when you wake up November
> 3.

Incumbent Republicans are being ousted, too. It's an anti-incumbent mood. Not an anti-Democrat mood.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:19AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHy would I post something anonymously when I
> can
> > actually put my name on it? If you think I
> would
> > post anonymously obviously you know little
> about
> > me trolltard.
>
>
> You should tell us. Your rapid response indicates
> you were trolling.


By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> indicates
> > you were trolling.
>
>
> By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"


By your concern, it could be concluded that you are RV.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

Actually if I was going to post something it would be more on the lines of AGW.

Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to ‘take back climate science’
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog
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...
Examiner.com: What drives climate change on Earth?

Dr. Soon: Most of the weather and climate variations we observed are essentially related to the sun and the changing seasons - not by CO2 radiative forcing and feedback. The climate system is constantly readjusting naturally in a large way - more than we would ever see from CO2. The CO2 kick [impact of CO2 emissions] is extremely small compared to what is happening in a natural way. Within the framework of a proper study of the sun-climate connection, you don’t need CO2 to explain anything.

Examiner.com: What is your opinion of the anthropogenic (man-caused) global warming theory?

Dr. Soon: It’s never been about the science - even from the very beginning. It’s based on confusion and a mixture of ideology. We should deal only in the facts that we do know.

Examiner.com: Many of the scientists promoting the global warming theory appear to be driven by politics rather than hard scientific data. What are your thoughts?

Dr. Soon: I am a scientist. I go where the facts take me. And the facts are fairly clear. It doesn’t take very long to discover that their views [of man-caused global warming] aren’t grounded in the facts. Why would any solid science need so much promotion and advertisement and the endless shouting about how the science has all been “settled”? And now we’re supposed to believe that the growing consensus on the street that humans are not responsible for global warming is due mainly to the confusion created by climate “deniers.”

Examiner.com: Many scientists like you (often referred to as “skeptics") are ridiculed and isolated for challenging the dogma of man-made global warming. Many of your peers have been very successful in their efforts to marginalize anyone who deviates from the approved script? What is happening?

Dr. Soon: The pro-AGW supporters have become more and more confrontational in their attacks on scientists who challenge their views. For instance, Stephen Schneider [a professor of environmental studies at Stanford University], says that skeptics sell garbage and that we are playing games with science. He compares it to selling drugs and believes that we are criminals who should go to jail. Guess what? You don’t pull that sort of thing on people who know something about science.

Examiner.com: What needs to be done to combat the strong-arm tactics being used against scientists who disagree with the AGW theory?

Dr. Soon: Science needs to stand up. The AGW movement is killing science. It’s very unhealthy in many ways. They are corrupting science for material gain. It’s time for us to take back climate science.

Examiner.com: Many AGW scientists state with confidence that there is a very high probability that the earth is warming. Therefore, something must be done now to cut CO2 emissions. How accurate are their statistics?

Dr. Soon: Their probabilities are absolute crap. They are pulling these statistics out of thin air. It is completely anti-science. They talk about 90 percent probability. It sounds high, but would anyone fly in an airplane if it would crash once out of every 10 flights?

Examiner.com: The temperature data over the past eight years or so seem to indicate that we have entered a period of global cooling. Are we experiencing a cooling trend?

Dr. Soon: If you look at the data empirically, there is a cooling tendency. We’re already seeing signs. The possibility of a colder climate ahead is a very real thing.

Examiner.com: What is your opinion of Al Gore?

Dr. Soon: He’s somebody who needs to just shut-up and stop spreading nonsense. He has neither credibility on science nor moral standing.

...

Note my use of quote blocks.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:21AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:
>
> >
> > So, you are contending that they are still in
> love
> > with the incumbent Congressional Dems? So much
> so
> > that they are outsting them in primaries?
> >
> > They are starting to wake up. I just don't
> think
> > you like what they are waking up to. I think
> > you'll like it even less when you wake up
> November
> > 3.
>
> Incumbent Republicans are being ousted, too. It's
> an anti-incumbent mood. Not an anti-Democrat mood.

ONE incumbent in a caucus system. Dems will be down more than that by months end - all done in primaries. I just find it funny that all those predicting this huge interparty war within the GOP have to now face the fact that it is the Dems who are the ones fighting to figure out what they stand for.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:22AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> > indicates
> > > you were trolling.
> >
> >
> > By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> > concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"
>
>
> By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> are RV.

WTL having a Vince(1) day. Seriously - wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning WTL? It is funny to watch you get on here and come looking for a fight with me.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:23AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > You should tell us. Your rapid response
> > indicates
> > > you were trolling.
> >
> >
> > By this logic (or lack thereof), it can be
> > concluded that you are "RV out of the closet"
>
>
> By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> are RV.

By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:35AM

Wake Up, Indeed Wrote:
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>
> ONE incumbent in a caucus system. Dems will be
> down more than that by months end - all done in
> primaries. I just find it funny that all those
> predicting this huge interparty war within the GOP
> have to now face the fact that it is the Dems who
> are the ones fighting to figure out what they
> stand for.

It's May. The elections are in November. You are going to see a lot more Charlie Crist/Bob Bennett scenarios in the coming months. Look at what is happening in California with Palin endorsing Carly Fiorina. If Fiorina gets the nomination, expect the Tea Party crowd to stay home in November.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: May 12, 2010 10:35AM

things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > By your concern, it could be concluded that you
> > are RV.
>
> By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory
> response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the
> closet"

The fact that you are RV makes it obvious that you are RV.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Wake Up, Indeed ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:42AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> It's May.

Thanks for confirming what my calender says.

> The elections are in November.

Thanks again, I thought they were, but I wasn't sure.


> You are going to see a lot more Charlie Crist/Bob Bennett
> scenarios in the coming months.

I know, Lincoln, Specter, Kanjorski. Maybe Harmon and Bennet (CO).

> Look at what is happening in California with Palin endorsing Carly
> Fiorina. If Fiorina gets the nomination, expect
> the Tea Party crowd to stay home in November.

Wishful thinking, but that is like asking your Code Pink friends to stay home. There will be something on the ballot for them to go vote for.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmm ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:43AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> things that make you go hmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > >
> > >
> > > By your concern, it could be concluded that
> you
> > > are RV.
> >
> > By your reflexive, evasive and accusatory
> > response, it is obvious you are "RV out of the
> > closet"
>
> The fact that you are RV makes it obvious that you
> are RV.

The fact that you insist I am RV is proof that you are "RV out of the closet"

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: WSJ ()
Date: May 14, 2010 12:30PM

The Democrats' Civil War
The Democratic primaries are generating nominees who are embracing, or even going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda.

By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL

What do Joe Sestak, Bill Halter and Colleen Hanabusa have in common? The left loves them. This is yet another reason Democrats are in trouble this fall.

Given the obsessive coverage of the Republican "civil war," you may not realize Democrats are also feuding. Angry and disappointed that their president and Congress has not done more, the party's liberal base is throwing itself into the primaries, pushing the party to the left even as the country moves right.

Ask Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, who on Tuesday will fight to keep her party's nomination against progressive Bill Halter, the state's lieutenant governor. Also up for judgment that day is Sen. Arlen Specter. He has his new party's full financial backing. Recent polls nonetheless show the liberal Mr. Sestak within striking distance.

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Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D., Ark.)
Later next week Hawaii holds a special election to replace Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who resigned to run for governor. His district is Democratic, but the liberal Ms. Hanabusa is siphoning support from the party's preferred candidate, former Rep. Ed Case. Republican Charles Dijou might win.

These races follow primaries in Ohio and North Carolina where the anointed Democrat fought damaging battles against insurgent liberals. Ohio Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher prevailed over Netroots favorite Jennifer Brunner, but not before she had drained Mr. Fisher's campaign coffers. In North Carolina, the base's preferred pick, Secretary of State Elaine Marshall, has dragged the more conservative state Sen. Cal Cunningham into a June runoff.

True, candidates like Mrs. Lincoln and Mr. Specter are struggling against today's anti-incumbent, anti-Washington fever. But the primary challenges are also the result of mismanaged expectations. Barack Obama allowed the left to believe he was one of them. Some of his campaign promises certainly fed its hopes: He'd close Guantanamo, pass union "card check," renegotiate Nafta, leave Iraq. Adding to the left's exuberance was the party's filibuster-proof Senate majority.

But Guantanamo is still open, card check is still dead, Nafta is still functioning, and troops remain in Iraq. Meanwhile, the president dangled the public option in front of his liberal supporters, only to further enrage them when he lost that fight. All this has forced Democratic congressmen to take the blame for failures like card check.

The base has interpreted the policy failures as proof that the decision to sit back while the Democratic Party elected more moderates was a mistake. The response has been for unions and grass-roots groups to throw their money and support behind more liberal candidates. Democrats are currently battling as many, if not more, ugly primary challenges than Republicans.

No one exemplifies the dynamic better than Mrs. Lincoln. Over her 12 years in the Senate, she's been careful to project herself as a Democrat in tune with Arkansas voters and business. The party leadership's decision to push card check and the public option (both highly unpopular with the general public and the Arkansas public) forced Mrs. Lincoln to push back, which cast her as the spoiler of liberal dreams.

Mr. Halter was the result, propelled from the start by groups such as MoveOn.org. The lieutenant governor has run far to Mrs. Lincoln's left, and in March, his first month of campaigning, he raised more than $2 million. And the left is unleashing money against his opponent; the Service Employees International Union recently unveiled a $1 million ad campaign against Mrs. Lincoln.

Win or lose, the base's candidates are pulling the Democratic field left. Colorado's appointed Sen. Michael Bennet was intending to win re-election by keeping his head down, splitting the difference on tough issues. Then, last September, the grass roots fueled former Colorado House speaker Andrew Romanoff's entrance into the race, who announced his support for an ObamaCare public option. Not to be outdone in a closed Democratic primary, Mr. Bennet became the Senate's most vocal public-option supporter.

Unfortunately for both men, the winner will now be on record supporting a position few in Colorado's general electorate share. In Pennsylvania, Mr. Specter was against the unpopular card check; thanks to Mr. Sestak he's now for it. Mr. Fisher was ambiguous about the Democratic health bill, until, prodded by Ms. Brunner, he declared "100%" support. These are positions that can't easily be dialed back.

This lurch toward liberal priorities coincides with polls showing that the electorate— particularly independents—has shifted significantly to the right since Mr. Obama took office. While some Republican primaries are proving bloody, most are turning out candidates largely in tune with today's public frustration with Washington.

The Democratic primaries, by contrast, are generating nominees who are embracing, or even going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda. This is the feud that may have the bigger consequences for this fall's midterms.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 14, 2010 02:48PM

WSJ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Democrats' Civil War
> The Democratic primaries are generating nominees
> who are embracing, or even going beyond, the
> president's unpopular agenda.
>
> By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
>
> What do Joe Sestak, Bill Halter and Colleen
> Hanabusa have in common? The left loves them. This
> is yet another reason Democrats are in trouble
> this fall.
>
> Given the obsessive coverage of the Republican
> "civil war," you may not realize Democrats are
> also feuding. Angry and disappointed that their
> president and Congress has not done more, the
> party's liberal base is throwing itself into the
> primaries, pushing the party to the left even as
> the country moves right.
>
> Ask Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, who on Tuesday
> will fight to keep her party's nomination against
> progressive Bill Halter, the state's lieutenant
> governor. Also up for judgment that day is Sen.
> Arlen Specter. He has his new party's full
> financial backing. Recent polls nonetheless show
> the liberal Mr. Sestak within striking distance.
>
> View Full Image
>
> Associated Press
>
> Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D., Ark.)
> Later next week Hawaii holds a special election to
> replace Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who resigned to run
> for governor. His district is Democratic, but the
> liberal Ms. Hanabusa is siphoning support from the
> party's preferred candidate, former Rep. Ed Case.
> Republican Charles Dijou might win.
>
> These races follow primaries in Ohio and North
> Carolina where the anointed Democrat fought
> damaging battles against insurgent liberals. Ohio
> Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher prevailed over Netroots
> favorite Jennifer Brunner, but not before she had
> drained Mr. Fisher's campaign coffers. In North
> Carolina, the base's preferred pick, Secretary of
> State Elaine Marshall, has dragged the more
> conservative state Sen. Cal Cunningham into a June
> runoff.
>
> True, candidates like Mrs. Lincoln and Mr. Specter
> are struggling against today's anti-incumbent,
> anti-Washington fever. But the primary challenges
> are also the result of mismanaged expectations.
> Barack Obama allowed the left to believe he was
> one of them. Some of his campaign promises
> certainly fed its hopes: He'd close Guantanamo,
> pass union "card check," renegotiate Nafta, leave
> Iraq. Adding to the left's exuberance was the
> party's filibuster-proof Senate majority.
>
> But Guantanamo is still open, card check is still
> dead, Nafta is still functioning, and troops
> remain in Iraq. Meanwhile, the president dangled
> the public option in front of his liberal
> supporters, only to further enrage them when he
> lost that fight. All this has forced Democratic
> congressmen to take the blame for failures like
> card check.
>
> The base has interpreted the policy failures as
> proof that the decision to sit back while the
> Democratic Party elected more moderates was a
> mistake. The response has been for unions and
> grass-roots groups to throw their money and
> support behind more liberal candidates. Democrats
> are currently battling as many, if not more, ugly
> primary challenges than Republicans.
>
> No one exemplifies the dynamic better than Mrs.
> Lincoln. Over her 12 years in the Senate, she's
> been careful to project herself as a Democrat in
> tune with Arkansas voters and business. The party
> leadership's decision to push card check and the
> public option (both highly unpopular with the
> general public and the Arkansas public) forced
> Mrs. Lincoln to push back, which cast her as the
> spoiler of liberal dreams.
>
> Mr. Halter was the result, propelled from the
> start by groups such as MoveOn.org. The lieutenant
> governor has run far to Mrs. Lincoln's left, and
> in March, his first month of campaigning, he
> raised more than $2 million. And the left is
> unleashing money against his opponent; the Service
> Employees International Union recently unveiled a
> $1 million ad campaign against Mrs. Lincoln.
>
> Win or lose, the base's candidates are pulling the
> Democratic field left. Colorado's appointed Sen.
> Michael Bennet was intending to win re-election by
> keeping his head down, splitting the difference on
> tough issues. Then, last September, the grass
> roots fueled former Colorado House speaker Andrew
> Romanoff's entrance into the race, who announced
> his support for an ObamaCare public option. Not to
> be outdone in a closed Democratic primary, Mr.
> Bennet became the Senate's most vocal
> public-option supporter.
>
> Unfortunately for both men, the winner will now be
> on record supporting a position few in Colorado's
> general electorate share. In Pennsylvania, Mr.
> Specter was against the unpopular card check;
> thanks to Mr. Sestak he's now for it. Mr. Fisher
> was ambiguous about the Democratic health bill,
> until, prodded by Ms. Brunner, he declared "100%"
> support. These are positions that can't easily be
> dialed back.
>
> This lurch toward liberal priorities coincides
> with polls showing that the electorate—
> particularly independents—has shifted
> significantly to the right since Mr. Obama took
> office. While some Republican primaries are
> proving bloody, most are turning out candidates
> largely in tune with today's public frustration
> with Washington.
>
> The Democratic primaries, by contrast, are
> generating nominees who are embracing, or even
> going beyond, the president's unpopular agenda.
> This is the feud that may have the bigger
> consequences for this fall's midterms.

Anonymous RV post.

Lack of quote box proves it.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: things that make you go hmmmmmmm ()
Date: May 14, 2010 03:15PM

Washingtonelocian Wrote:
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> Anonymous RV post.
>
> Lack of quote box proves it.

WTL, how long did it take you to log out, write this post, and log back in again?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: CT Liar ()
Date: May 17, 2010 11:09PM

Vietnam allegations threaten frontrunning Blumenthal in CT-Senate
Updated, 10:43 pm

The New York Times' story detailing Connecticut Attorney General Dick Blumenthal's (D) misstatements about his service in Vietnam -- he received five deferments and never served in the country, according to the paper -- has the potential to fundamentally reshape the Nutmeg State Senate race.

Writes Raymond Hernandez:


"What is striking about Mr. Blumenthal's record is the contrast between the many steps he took that allowed him to avoid Vietnam, and the misleading way he often speaks about that period of his life now, especially when he is speaking at veterans' ceremonies or other patriotic events."

Oomph.

Blumenthal campaign manager Mindy Myers released a statement late Monday night describing the Times story as "an outrageous distortion" although she did not deny the fact that the candidate had misled people about the nature of his service. Myers noted that Blumenthal will appear at a press conference tomorrow with Connecticut veterans.

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee communications director Eric Schultz put the blame for the story on Republicans and, in particular, former World Wrestling Entertainment executive Linda McMahon who is running for the GOP nod.

"Its no surprise Republicans would want to smear Dick Blumenthal, considering all of the debauchery at [WWE] under Linda McMahon's watch," said Schultz.

Ed Patru, spokesman for McMahon, responded that "it's become increasingly clear to us over the past weeks and months as we've researched Mr. Blumenthal that there are some very troubling discrepancies between what he's been saying and the truth."

Simmons, who served in Vietnam, released a statement saying he was "deeply troubled" by the allegations against Blumenthal, adding: "Too many have sacrificed too much to have their valor stolen in this way."

Blumenthal, who has served as the state's top cop since 1988, has held a commanding lead in the open seat Senate race since he entered it. National Democrats spent months ensuring that the popular politician was ready to run if and when embattled Sen. Chris Dodd (D) decided not to seek re-election.

When Blumenthal entered the race, his poll numbers were stratospheric -- he held massive leads over McMahon and former Rep. Rob Simmons -- and Democrats insisted that they had saved a seat and, in so doing, squashed any talk of Republicans picking up the majority this fall.


Even amidst that celebration, however, there were some Democrats who warned that Blumenthal had not been tested in a serious campaign in more than two decades and that once punched -- as he inevitably would be in a high-profile race like this one -- he would collapse.

The Times story would seem to affirm the fears from those Democrats that Blumenthal was not the candidate he was cracked up to be.

"He's popular, but for no particular reason," said one senior Democratic strategist. "No one really knows him, and this fills in the blanks in a pretty devastating way." The strategist added that Connecticut remains strongly Democratic, which works in Blumenthal's favor but acknowledged: "It's a race now."

McMahon is regarded by most national Republicans as their preferred candidate due to her consider personal wealth and outsider profile. Simmons, however, does have an electoral base in his old eastern Connecticut district. The two will face off in an Aug. 10 primary that also includes investor Peter Schiff.

It remains to be seen how badly these revelations will damage Blumenthal's front-running candidacy. He faces only nominal primary opposition at the moment although the state's filing deadline isn't for another week. That week is going to be the toughest of Blumenthal's career.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: not even two years ()
Date: June 22, 2010 10:06AM

White House budget director Peter Orszag plans to leave government in July, becoming the first member of President Barack Obama’s Cabinet to depart, administration officials said Monday. Orszag is likely to join a think tank, colleagues said.


Rahm Emanuel is soon to follow

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: June 22, 2010 11:42AM

...And... this will help I am sure...

This is so sad it's funny. I guess they don't want to go on the record with anything this close to the election huh? What a bunch of fucknuts.

Cancelled: There Will Be No Congressional Budget This Year
http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
Quote

Washington (Jun 22)

In light of House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer’s (D-MD) announcement this morning that House Democrats will not pass a budget this year – failing to fulfill what he has called “the most basic responsibility” of governing – the following important fiscal health warning has been issued:

THE BUDGET HAS BEEN

CANCELLED

WE REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT

THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET

PLANNED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2011 HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO WASHINGTON DEMOCRATS’ OUT-OF-CONTROL SPENDING SPREE.

AN APOLOGY FOR THIS BETRAYAL OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE FORTHCOMING AT THIS TIME.

BE ADVISED THAT THE FOLLOWING SERVICES WILL BE INTERRUPTED:

Imposing the fiscal discipline economists say is needed to create jobs and boost our economy

Reining in the out-of-control spending spree that is killing American jobs

Carrying out the “most basic responsibility of governing”

Stopping middle-class tax hikes that will sock family budgets at the worst possible time

Providing the leadership on jobs and the economy that Americans say is sorely lacking

Protecting our kids and grandkids from the enormous debt burden Washington has placed on them

We reserve the right to notify you of additional consequences that may arise in light of this budget failure, which is unprecedented in the modern era. In the interim, please brace for more spending, more debt, more tax hikes, more broken promises.

For families and small businesses looking for a government that listens to the people it serves and respects their hard-earned money, House Republicans are offering better solutions to cut spending now and help small businesses put people back to work.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: June 22, 2010 04:19PM

Hoyer this spring noted that the GOP-led Congress didn’t pass a final resolution in 1998, 2004 and 2006.


The House will put forth a “budget enforcement resolution” rather than a budget blueprint that looks beyond next year and calculates five or 10 years’ worth of deficit figures.


The House’s “enforcement” — or deeming — resolution will endorse the goals of the president’s fiscal commission and reiterate the commitment to vote on its recommendations after the midterm elections. And it will also set limits on discretionary spending “that require further cuts below the president’s budget,” according to the speech.


“This budget enforcement resolution will enforce fiscal discipline in the near term while the fiscal commission works on a long-term plan to get our country back to fiscal health,” Hoyer’s remarks state.


The nation’s debt and budget deficits — and what to do about them — are the theme of Hoyer’s speech.


It’s also the issue that’s destroying what’s left of the Democrats’ jobs agenda as centrist Democrats have balked at the price tag of such measures.


For weeks, Democratic leaders have tried to strike a deal on the budget, which is a non-binding resolution, but to no avail.


The talks triggered splits in the Democratic Caucus, alienating conservative Democrats from their liberal colleagues.


The House’s decision not to pursue a budget resolution comes as the Senate has been struggling to get its companion measure to the floor. And the politics of the moment are a far cry from last year, when the House and Senate easily passed Obama’s first budget on the president’s 100th day in office. The budget measure last year did not attract any GOP support.


Hoyer is seeking a new tone on how to handle the nation’s record debt.


“This is a remarkable moment in political history — a time when our creeping fiscal danger of our $9 trillion of publicly held debt troubles Americans as much as the prospect of the most brutal attacks on our country,” Hoyer will say. “The real question is how we respond... There’s the easy way — glib slogans about spending, solutions that are more about winning political power than confronting the scope of the problem, and answers borrowed from decades-old dogma instead of from a hard look at reality.”


The “right way” Hoyer envisions, however, does involve a continued separation of short-term and structural budget deficits and a careful avoidance of “overreacting to short-term deficits while we’re still feeling the effects of recession.”


“If ‘out-of-control spending’ refers to the Recovery Act and other jobs programs that are responsible for more than 2 million jobs and only a small fraction of our deficit, I’d ask what the alternatives were,” the speech reads. “Whether we are spending or cutting taxes, creating jobs in a recession means adding to the deficit in the short term.”

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Dueling Dem Presidents ()
Date: July 01, 2010 12:46PM

A Colorado Senate primary has divided a pair of Democratic presidents.

Ex-president Bill Clinton has endorsed Andrew Romanoff in his bid to unseat U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet, D-Colo. -- who is backed by President Obama.

The White House has had little to say about the dueling endorsements.

When a reporter (jokingly) asked whether he was "amused, dismayed (or) infuriated," Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said, "D, none of the above."

This is the not the first time the Colorado race has given the White House heartburn; early this year, Romanoff said the White House dangled a job in order to get him out of a race against Bennet.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: gravelly voiced Chuck ()
Date: July 23, 2010 10:59AM

A House ethics subcommittee announced Thursday that it found that Rep. Charles B. Rangel violated congressional ethics rules and that it will prepare for a trial, probably beginning in September. The panel is expected to make the details of his alleged violations public next Thursday.

Rangel (D-N.Y.) has been under the House ethics committee's microscope since early 2008 after it was reported that he may have used his House position to benefit his financial interests. Two of the most serious inquiries have focused on Rangel's failure to declare $239,000 to $831,000 in assets on his disclosure forms, and on his effort to raise money for a private center named after him at City College of New York using his congressional letterhead.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/22/AR2010072204704_pf.html

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: July 28, 2010 09:35AM

Pat Caddell has moderated his political biases over the years as a Democrat activist and pollster and Doug Schoen is an old Clinton holdover (could be a sign) but I think these guys see clearly the current state of the Democrat Party and condition of Obama's Presidency.

Gov. Rendell (NJ) has started beating the drum for a Dem. Barrack challenger in 2012. Folks like the former head of the Civil Rights Commission, Mary Frances Berry, acknowledged that the Obama administration has taken to polarizing America around the issue of race as a means of diverting attention away from other issues, saying: "the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. . . . Having one's opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness."

It all points to one hell of an ugly mid term election and an even uglier 2012 election cycle.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703700904575391553798363586.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: July 28, 2010 09:37AM


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: H2Oers ()
Date: July 30, 2010 04:25PM

A House ethics subcommittee has completed its investigation into allegations of wrongdoing by Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), and could announce its next steps before lawmakers leave town for the August recess Friday, according to sources familiar with the process.


The committee is in discussions with Waters about the case, in which investigators looked at whether she broke House rules by improperly intervening with federal officials on behalf of a local bank, OneUnited Bank, that her husband owned stock in and once sat on the board of directors. It’s not clear yet what would be contained in a Statement of Alleged Violations if the investigative subcommittee determines she acted improperly.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html#ixzz0vCQ9gEez

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: info ()
Date: July 30, 2010 07:46PM

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work:

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Capt. Obvious ()
Date: August 30, 2010 10:51AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> People are starting to wake up to the fact that
> the Republicans have shit to offer. Give it a few
> more months and let's talk again in October.
>
>
>


Thanks for posting that chart. The nice thing about it is that it continuously updates daily. Looks a bit different today.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: EBJ ()
Date: August 30, 2010 12:05PM

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson violated rules, steered scholarships to relatives

Longtime Dallas congresswoman Eddie Bernice Johnson has awarded thousands of dollars in college scholarships to four relatives and a top aide's two children since 2005, using foundation funds set aside for black lawmakers' causes.


Eddie Bernice Johnson The recipients were ineligible under anti-nepotism rules of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, which provided the money. And all of the awards violated a foundation requirement that scholarship winners live or study in a caucus member's district.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/082910dntexcongress.2c049bb.html

"Most Ethical Congress Ever...."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Spanky ()
Date: August 30, 2010 12:36PM

Wilder would have made a decent President, he was a true Centrist, Dem. He did Ol VA alright. Why could the Dems ran him instead of the pinko comie from Il. ?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: 10 points ()
Date: August 31, 2010 11:44AM

PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans lead by 51% to 41% among registered voters in Gallup weekly tracking of 2010 congressional voting preferences. The 10-percentage-point lead is the GOP's largest so far this year and is its largest in Gallup's history of tracking the midterm generic ballot for Congress.

These results are based on aggregated data from registered voters surveyed Aug. 23-29 as part of Gallup Daily tracking. This marks the fifth week in a row in which Republicans have held an advantage over Democrats -- one that has ranged between 3 and 10 points.

The Republican leads of 6, 7, and 10 points this month are all higher than any previous midterm Republican advantage in Gallup's history of tracking the generic ballot, which dates to 1942. Prior to this year, the highest such gap was five points, measured in June 2002 and July 1994. Elections in both of these years resulted in significant Republican gains in House seats.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142718/GOP-Unprecedented-Lead-Generic-Ballot.aspx

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Myself ()
Date: August 31, 2010 12:01PM

I recently have received several telephone polls asking about different candidates and who I was more likely to vote for. The calls went into various issues with economy and President and such. I told the pollers the same thing that I plan on doing come November. In the past, I have voted independent and have voted for candidates from both parties. Not this year though, I'm done with Connolly and all the others who voted in lockstep with Pelosi and Reid. Looks like it will be a straight Repub ticket for me.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: August 31, 2010 01:19PM

There is a dead lock that has materialized in the Senate race in Nevada. One Omen not many pundits are citing is the Republican Alaskan primary race for the Senate. Murkowski enjoyed a lead of well over 20% shortly before the primary with something in the area of 10% being undecided at that point. Big backlash.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/nv/nevada_senate_angle_vs_reid-1517.html#polls

I know Angle is being portrayed as a wacko but there are parallels here to many to ignore. In Nevada it will be all Obama blow back all the time. The anger I sense in Nevada is palpable. Even though what I've seen at street level is admit-tingly anecdotal I'll guarantee a lock for Angle 60 days out. No one thing is to blame here. Reids healthcare reform support was the beginning of the end. Then of course the economy and jobs. The last of which Obama attacked directly and personally pertaining specifically to Las Vegas.

Murkowski was barely connected to health care support and the Obama Doctrine and it most likely cost her the Senate seat she is sure that She'd won.

It will be reported as one of the most devastating and unexpected losses of the night upsetting the pollster's predictions several points outside the margin of error. Also by this time of the evening the Senate will either be in play or already locked by the GOP by stunned analysts everywhere.

The California Senate - Boxer vs. Fiorina race is almost a carbon copy of Reid's battle and Boxer likely will be gone shortly after Reid.
California Senate - Boxer vs. Fiorina

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ca/california_senate_boxer_vs_fiorina-1094.html

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: JR ()
Date: August 31, 2010 01:36PM

Presidents lowest approval ratings before reelection.

Bush W. 48% April- June-04
Clinton. 38% July-93, and July-94.
Reagan. 38% Feb-84. (note Reagan below 50% from Dec-81 to November-83). People forget, that Reagan was not loved at all durring his first term he was pretty much hated.


If anything Obama is approval rating profile resembles Reagan the most. If I had to put money on it, Obama wins reelection especially if Republicans win house and or Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: September 01, 2010 11:38AM

This is going to become a common place scene throughout the midterm cycle. This gal and her entourage are truly in shock over what just happened. She fancied herself as a moderate in the Republican Party and look where it got her. Look at her family around her. Her pollsters assured her right up to Tuesday she was a lock.

Murkowski conceding Senate race in Alaska.
Murkowski Concedes

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: UVA Larry ()
Date: September 02, 2010 11:25AM

Larry Sabato predicts a Republican House majority
1. In a report issued this morning, University of Virginia political handicapper Larry Sabato estimated that Republicans will pick up 47 seats in the House on Nov. 2, more than enough to restore the party to majority status at the start of the 112th Congress.

"Conditions have deteriorated badly for Democrats over the summer," writes Sabato. "The economy appears rotten, with little chance of a substantial comeback by November 2nd. Unemployment is very high, income growth sluggish, and public confidence quite low."

He adds: "To most voters--fair or not--it seems that President Obama has over-promised and under-delivered."

Sabato's prediction comes amid increasingly pessimistic assessments of Democratic chances in the fall from the political prognosticator class.

Last week, Time magazine's Mark Halperin said that if circumstances didn't change Democratic House losses could total as many as 60 seats.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: September 02, 2010 11:31AM

JR Wrote:
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> Presidents lowest approval ratings before
> reelection.
>
> Bush W. 48% April- June-04
> Clinton. 38% July-93, and July-94.
> Reagan. 38% Feb-84. (note Reagan below 50% from
> Dec-81 to November-83). People forget, that Reagan
> was not loved at all durring his first term he was
> pretty much hated.
>
>
> If anything Obama is approval rating profile
> resembles Reagan the most. If I had to put money
> on it, Obama wins reelection especially if
> Republicans win house and or Senate.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_preside
> ntial_approval_rating

Agreed. The Republicans will give Obama a foil to work against. The Debt Commission will give its report and the Tea Party nutcases will expect the Republicans to start cutting spending. If Obama plays it right, he should win re-election and take back part of the majority in Congress (I still think Dems may hold the Senate in November).

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: September 02, 2010 11:34AM

Look at the approval chart for Obama up top? It's starting to revert back. Wonder if he will be back in positive territory for November? Could have an interesting impact on the election if he is.

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Uneployeement ()
Date: September 02, 2010 11:43AM

If the unemployeement starts going down his approval rateings will sky rocket. If it hits 7% or 6% by 2012 he wins in a landslide.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Larry Scumbato ()
Date: September 02, 2010 12:19PM

GOP takeover of the House guarantees Obama reelection in 2012.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Pooh Bear ()
Date: September 02, 2010 12:23PM

Larry Scumbato Wrote:
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> GOP takeover of the House guarantees Obama
> reelection in 2012.

Looks like Sabato's predictions really upset Lopter.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: September 04, 2010 02:09PM

Now that Obama's approval is down to 42% we see articles like this. Hell, as much as I disliked Clinton, I would take him back now...

‘Bush … Come Back, Bush, Come Back’
http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/bush-come-back-bush/?singlepage=true
Why We Suddenly Miss Bush

Various polls report that George W. Bush in some states is now better liked than President Obama. Even some liberal pundits call for Bush, the now long-missed moderate, to draw on his recognized tolerance and weigh in on the Ground Zero mosque or the Arizona anti-immigration legislation. Apparently the erstwhile divider is now the healer that the healer Obama is not.

As President Obama’s polls dip, as Congress is widely disdained, and as the economy slumps, suddenly George Bush is missed. Why so? Let me list ten likely reasons.

...

2) Obama as Bush. Senator and then candidate Obama demagogued Bush on a variety of issues, which, as president, he simply flipped and endorsed. Remember Bush’s gulag at Guantanamo? Or how about the terror-producing Predators? Or the need for an immediate pull-out from Iraq? Or those terrible renditions and tribunals?

In case after case of national security, Obama dropped the cheap rhetorical one-upmanship, and, when invested with the responsibility of governance, simply adopted, or even trumped, the Bush protocols. General Petraeus, whose testimony Hillary once suggested required “a suspension of disbelief†and whom Obama cut off and did not allow to speak during his infamous 2007 Senate hearing, suddenly is to be Obama’s savior general.

Candidate Obama claimed the surge failed and all combat troops should be out of Bush’s Iraq war by March 2008. President Obama now calls Iraq a “remarkable chapter†as his vice president claims it as one of the administration’s “greatest achievements.†In short, almost daily, Obama is following the Bush anti-terrorism policies — the irony made worse by petulance and ingratitude in not acknowledging his debt.

3) Bush Did It. It is a uniquely American trait to shun whining and petulance. Rugged individualism and can-do optimism used to be ingrained in our national character, and even in our 11th hour have not wholly disappeared. So the public is tiring of Obama’s Pavlovian blaming of Bush. After 20 months, it is time for the president to get a life and quit the “heads you lose/tails I win†attitude about presidential responsibility. If he now takes credit for calm in Iraq without crediting the surge, then Obama can surely take blame for the anemic recovery — brought on by his own bullying of business that has frightened free enterprise into stasis. Note that Bush, unlike Clinton, has not engaged in emeritus tit-for-tat recrimination, and has kept largely quiet in dignified repose. Obama serially goes after Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck by name; Bush let the slander of a Michael Moore or Keith Olbermann go unanswered.

...

10) Bush was authentic. He mangled his words. A liberal industry grew up around both “nuclar†and its sometimes corrective “nucular.†He strutted and talked Nascarese-like “bring ‘em on.†Much of this was excessive, but we knew at least Bush meant it. We got worried when he extemporaneously expounded for long riffs about freedom at press conferences, as his eyes rolled and he drifted from topic to topic. He put his arm on Angela Merkel and cried out “Yo Blair.†The media told us he was a yokel; we might add: albeit an authentic one who could duck properly when under shoe attack.

But Obama? He cannot really speak off the teleprompter without pauses, repetitions, and constant self-referencing (as in “me,†“I,†“my,†etc.). He is stiff and not comfortable with himself off the court or golf course. Bush made decisions and stuck by them; Obama the professor offers a perennial “on the one handâ€/â€on the other hand†mish-mash and a sorta, kinda, almost answer. Americans would prefer to be in a foxhole with George Bush, who would swagger and announce as decider-in-chief at H-hour, “OK, pard, we’re going over the top together on this one.†They wouldn’t want to be with Obama, who would stutter and give a long-drawn out exegesis why race and class had condemned us to such an unfair predicament, whose only solution is to go into a fetal position and condemn “them†who did this awful thing to us.

Who knows? At this rate America may play Brandon DeWilde to Bush’s Shane: Bush — Come Back, Bush, Come Back!


If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Capt. Obvious ()
Date: September 10, 2010 10:01AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Look at the approval chart for Obama up top? It's
> starting to revert back. Wonder if he will be back
> in positive territory for November? Could have an
> interesting impact on the election if he is.

Really? 8 days after your post, he is back at a 50% disapproval rating.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Most Ethical Congress ()
Date: September 10, 2010 10:05AM

Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) awarded three scholarships from the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation to his stepdaughter and wife’s niece between 2003 and 2005, according to records from the non-profit group.

Bishop is the second Democrat found to have funneled Congressional Black Caucus Foundation scholarship funds to relatives, threatening to turn the program into a larger political problem for the party. Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) recently paid back $31,000 to the foundation for scholarships that she improperly awarded to various relatives and children of a top staffer.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/41953.html#ixzz0z8QgUzhv

Wow, Pelosi really rooted out all that corruption and "drained the swamp."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Dump Nancy ()
Date: September 17, 2010 12:07AM

This was Al Gore's seat in the House when he created the internet........

It has been held by a Democrat ever since........

Democratic District 6 Congressional candidate Brett Carter is asking U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step aside for the good of Democratic candidates.

Carter, in an announcement made in Nashville on Thursday morning, said he sent a letter to Pelosi requesting her to step aside.
“I think it is incumbent on Speaker Pelosi to step aside,†Carter said.

Citing a report in the Murfreesboro Daily News Journal, where Carter was described to have an albatross around his neck in the form of Pelosi, said the divisiveness she generates hamstrings his and other Democratic candidates’ abilities to focus on the issues.

“I don’t believe my situation is unique,†Carter said.

If elected, Carter said he would not cast his vote for Nancy Pelosi to be speaker.

It is this first vote that Carter said many of the public is focused on, rather than his qualifications as a candidate.

"It is time that we show Washington and time we show America that we are prepared to lead going forward," Carter said.

In the release issued following Carter’s statement, he said Republicans are pointing at Speaker Pelosi as the “embodiment of our problems†and that Democrats can move forward with their agenda once they “take away that weapon.â€

“Ultimately, I believe it is not me who should be saying this,†Carter said. “I’m going to be the kind of leader that says what needs to be said.â€

Carter took no questions after the announcement, leaving for speaking engagements in Cookeville.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mcsmack ()
Date: September 17, 2010 10:59PM

Dump Nancy Wrote:
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> This was Al Gore's seat in the House when he
> created the internet........
>
> It has been held by a Democrat ever since........
>
> Democratic District 6 Congressional candidate
> Brett Carter is asking U.S. House of
> Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi to step aside
> for the good of Democratic candidates.
>
>

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4340540/democrat-calls-for-pelosi-to-resign/

Man....... How embarrassing.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: the defeated ()
Date: November 08, 2010 11:16AM

Oh, the hits keep coming. With Pelosi remaining as leader (pure hubris), Democrats will continue their downward spiral.

Letter from Defeated Members:

Many of us want the chance to run again and reclaim the seats that we lost on Tuesday. With you as the leader of House Democrats, the hangover of 2010 stands no chance of subsiding. Many of us have run our last race but remain committed to our party; we want to help recruit successful candidates to run in our stead. Unfortunately, we fear that Republicans will further demonize you, and in so doing they will scare potential candidates out. The prospect of having to run against their own party leadership in addition to their Republican opponent is simply too daunting.

This is a difficult letter to write, because we admire your commitment, your drive, and your conviction. You have been an historic figure in our great nation, and for that we are all proud, as should you be. Nonetheless, we each experienced how Republican demonization of you and your leadership contributed to our defeat.

It is impossible not to judge the results of November 2nd as anything but a profound loss. We want to recover. Recovery of our majority in the House necessitates new leadership at the top of our party. We believe that you can and will play an extraordinary role in our party, and it is extremely unfortunate that Republicans have taken away your ability to lead as effectively as you are able. Nonetheless, one mark of a strong leader is the ability to discern when it is time to pass the baton. As defeated members, whose party needs to rebuild, we are counting on you to show the strength of your leadership in this dark hour. We ask that you step aside as leader of our party in the House.

With utmost respect, we are..

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: no way ()
Date: November 09, 2010 12:07AM

LOL-are the Democrats still standing beside Pelosi? If so, welcome any GOP candidate to the White House - even that tard Palin! Talk about "out of touch" I think W has a higher approval rating than she does. What are the Dems thinking?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: wrong again ()
Date: April 11, 2011 12:47PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Obama has been talking like a centrist lately.
> > That is bound to swing him a few tenths. Now he
> > can paint oil companies as bad guys so that
> takes
> > some pressure off him also - but he still has a
> > ways to go before cresting 50%. If he stays
> below
> > 50 it won't make any difference come the 2010
> > elections.
>
> This is true. But it will be above 50 percent come
> November.

It wasn't. Wrong again.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Big Nate ()
Date: January 24, 2012 03:02PM

The Democratic blood bath begins. Look for a bigger majority in the House this November.........


Nathan Kleinman, a 29-year-old member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, intends to run for congress in Pennsylvania's 13th district against Democratic incumbent Allyson Schwartz.

"The petition gathering period starts today and lasts for three weeks, so I plan to file by then," Kleinman told me over the phone today. "I'll be running in the Democratic primary."

Kleinman, who refers to himself as a human rights activist and organizer, served as an aide to Joe Sestak's unsuccessful 2010 Senate campaign before becoming a legislative assistant to Pennsylvania State Representative Josh Shapiro.

More recently, he has been a member of the Occupy Philadelphia movement, participating in a number of associated working groups, including "Free University," "Outreach Working Group," "Process Working Group," "Camp Liberty," and "The Committee of Correspondence," through which he became involved with InterOccupy.org, which he describes as "a central hub for communications" in the national Occupy movement.

Now, he plans to campaign for the House of Representatives, which would make him the first member of the Occupy movement to seek a seat in Congress.

"After a GREAT meeting tonight in Jenkintown, I'm excited to say: I'm running for Congress!!" Kleinman wrote on his Facebook page last night. He later joined Facebook's "Occupy US Congress" group.

Kleinman told me that he intends to run on his own, autonomous platform, but will "stay involved in the Occupy movement" during the campaign.

A spokesperson in Representative Schwartz's office told me that she knew "a little" about Kleinman, but did not elaborate. A spokesperson with the Pennsylvania state election office confirmed that filing petitions for 2012 went out today, and said that an applicant must obtain 1,000 signatures to qualify.

"You need 1,000 signatures and a hundred dollars," Kleinman explained. "It's a pretty low bar."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Neverending Implosion ()
Date: October 12, 2012 10:56AM

2 years later and the party is still imploding.


Police intercede as Dems Sherman, Berman get physical

By Jonathan Easley - 10/12/12 07:25 AM ET

California Democratic Reps. Brad Sherman and Howard Berman appeared to nearly come to blows at their debate Thursday night.

A police officer separated the two congressmen, who are locked in a tight, nasty primary fight, after Sherman put his arm around Berman and seemed to challenge him to a fight.

“Howard, you want to get into this?” Sherman shouted as he wrapped his arm around Berman and squeezed him tight.

A police officer then approached from behind and placed his hand on Sherman in an attempt to calm him down. The crowd whooped and cheered throughout the moment.

Berman campaign adviser Brandon Hall said in a statement the altercation was evidence Sherman was “unsuitable” for office.

“At a debate in front of local college students Congressman Brad Sherman loses his mind and acts like a bully,” Hall said. “This speaks directly to his temperament that is totally unsuitable for anyone, especially for a member of Congress. The Valley deserved better.”

According to the Jewish Journal, Sherman became agitated after Berman took credit for authoring the DREAM Act, which offers a pathway to citizenship to illegal immigrants who came to the United States when they were young and then go to college or serve in the military.

Berman and Sherman are facing off in a heavily Democratic district after finishing as the top two candidates in California’s new all-party primary in early June.

Polling for the race has been sparse, but a KABC poll released late last month showed Sherman ahead with 45 percent support over Berman at 32, although 23 percent said they were undecided.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: still imploding ()
Date: May 10, 2013 11:47AM

Still declining 3 years later. Outside of winning the Presidency, the Dems have not been very successful.....



One of the Democrats’ most veteran strategists warns that the party is “in decline” and “at considerable risk” when President Barack Obama is no longer on the scene.

“Since Obama was elected President, the Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik, the political director in Bill Clinton’s White House, writes in a new memo.

While Republican branding problems get the lion’s share of attention, the Democratic Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15 points since Obama took power. A Pew Research Center survey this January showed that the Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47 percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan. 2009.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/dem-strategist-warns-party-in-decline-91172.html#ixzz2SuBPVuMT

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: May 10, 2013 12:44PM

still imploding Wrote:
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> Still declining 3 years later. Outside of winning
> the Presidency, the Dems have not been very
> successful.....
>
>
>
> One of the Democrats’ most veteran strategists
> warns that the party is “in decline” and “at
> considerable risk” when President Barack Obama
> is no longer on the scene.
>
> “Since Obama was elected President, the
> Democrats have lost nine governorships, 56 members
> of the House and two Senate seats,” Doug Sosnik,
> the political director in Bill Clinton’s White
> House, writes in a new memo.
>
> While Republican branding problems get the
> lion’s share of attention, the Democratic
> Party’s favorability rating has declined by 15
> points since Obama took power. A Pew Research
> Center survey this January showed that the
> Democratic Party was viewed favorably by 47
> percent of Americans, down from 62 percent in Jan.
> 2009.
>
>
> Read more:
> http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/dem-strategi
> st-warns-party-in-decline-91172.html#ixzz2SuBPVuMT

Funny. The main reason for all of that was the passage of Obamacare, as well as the fact that the ruling party almost ALWAYS loses seats in the midterm election.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Hahahaha ()
Date: May 11, 2013 11:11AM

yes picking up senatorial/house seats and the presidency again is totally declining. Its not like republicans are primary'ing their own candidates or anything. Its not like the leading republican senator is shitting himself because some douche who thinks that any control on military weaponry in private hands = against the 2nd amendment

Hahaha, whatever you fringe breitbart wanna bes. Just sit back, grab some snacks, and watch the shit show known as GOP america continue to entertain. I'm personally fine sending all that federal welfare money to states like Arkansas because I love the entertainment they give back even if this country would be better off with out them

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tulsi vs. Lil Debbie ()
Date: October 13, 2015 09:29PM

Democrats are battling one another offstage ahead of the party’s first 2016 debate, with a prominent lawmaker engaged in a fierce war of words with the party chairman.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), a vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), is all but calling DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz a liar as the two publicly battle over whether Gabbard was disinvited from Tuesday night’s debate.

Gabbard stood by her claims in a string of interviews Monday night and Tuesday, arguing she was being punished for vocally criticizing her party for only holding six debates.
“It's not surprising to me that she is saying things that aren't true,” she said of her House colleague during an appearance Tuesday on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) fired back in her own round of interviews. Asked on the same MSNBC program whether she told Gabbard not to come to the debate, she replied, “that is simply not the case.”

“What we said, as my staff communicated to her staff, is that she needed to focus on the issues and make a commitment to do that, and in fact, she said yesterday in a news interview that if she came, she would be a distraction and so she chose not to come,” Wasserman Schultz said.

In a separate interview on CNN, Wasserman Schultz said Gabbard was focused on “process and on herself” instead of on the party’s “great candidates.”

The public spat threatens to be embarrassing distraction for Democrats, and it could spill over into Tuesday night’s debate.

One of the candidates on the stage, former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, has repeatedly denounced the debate schedule as “rigged” and accused the DNC of tilting the process in favor of front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), the lead challenger to Clinton in the polls, has been less strident in his criticism, but said Democrats are “dead wrong” to limit the number of debates.

“I think this country benefits, all people benefit, democracy benefits, when we have debates, and I want to see more of them,” Sanders said in August. “I think that debates are a good thing."

Wasserman Schultz appeared to slam the door on changing the debate schedule in early September, telling reporters: “We’re not changing the process. We’re having six debates.”

“Every day someone is going to say something about my intentions, but I have a party to run,” she said. “... I’ll make decisions that will make some people happy and some people unhappy. I can’t worry about that.”

But Gabbard — an up-and-coming Democrat who has vocally criticized President Obama’s strategy against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) — has kept up the drumbeat of criticism.

For weeks, the Hawaii Democrat has called for an expansion of the debate schedule and for dropping a policy that bars the candidates from participating in unsanctioned events.

Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, another DNC chairman, authored a joint Facebook post with Gabbard last month calling the debate schedule a “mistake.”

On Tuesday, during an interview on CNN, Gabbard said she wasn't consulted about the debate criteria despite her position with the DNC.

Wasserman Schultz “claimed a month ago that she had spoken with, communicated and consulted with officers of the DNC about her decision to limit debates to six” and about the exclusion clause, Gabbard said.

“That never occurred. I can tell you, speaking for myself, that I didn't find out her decision until after the fact. There was no consultation and no communication,” Gabbard said.

Wasserman Schultz rejected that assertion on CNN, saying, “there were many people, including officers," who were consulted. She accused Gabbard of "quibbling about process.”

“We are a big tent party and welcome those opinions. But this debate and every debate going forward is about the issues,” she said.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Moar!!!! ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:22AM

Hillary Clinton further contributed to the party's implosion.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gerrytarderrer2 ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:29AM

dr-evil-laugh-o.gif

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gerrytarderrer2 ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:29AM

raw

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Uj6mc ()
Date: November 09, 2016 08:40AM

Many Fairfax Democrats hold security clearances, yet still voted for Hillary, knowing full well that what she did with her private server and government emails was criminal. They are equally as corrupt and without morals as Hillary.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: D's keep on failing ()
Date: November 15, 2016 03:11PM

Nancy Pelosi might lose her leadership position.

Dems are falling apart everywhere.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: I'm impressed ()
Date: February 21, 2017 04:07PM

Wow. The OP actually called this shit from 6 years out. That's actually pretty impressive for this forum.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: it's going to be good! ()
Date: November 02, 2017 01:50PM

I discussed the fundraising agreement that each of the candidates had signed. Bernie was familiar with it, but he and his staff ignored it. They had their own way of raising money through small donations. I described how Hillary’s campaign had taken it another step.

I told Bernie I had found Hillary’s Joint Fundraising Agreement. I explained that the cancer was that she had exerted this control of the party long before she became its nominee. Had I known this, I never would have accepted the interim chair position, but here we were with only weeks before the election.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: the hits keep coming ()
Date: February 04, 2020 07:47AM

The Iowa caucuses certainly didn't help Democrats.

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