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The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: L. Douglas Wilder ()
Date: February 10, 2010 01:56PM

As the left continues to predict and salivate over the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to ignore the implosion happening right under their own feet.

Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm

By BOB LEWIS
AP Political Writer


RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected black governor is calling for Democratic National Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.

In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of reversals in governor's races and special congressional elections under Kaine's watch.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder said his comments about Kaine, whose term as Virginia's governor expired last month, were not personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with Kaine's leadership.

Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964. Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005 when Kaine was elected governor.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Hope Is A Joke ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:05PM

It's time to shake up both parties! But especially the democrats.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:09PM

Hope Is A Joke Wrote:
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> It's time to shake up both parties! But especially
> the democrats.


Lets see..on one side we have a party that brought us 25 years of a "free market fraud"...a party who brought us nearly 8 years of war...a party of "just say no"!

I'll take the dems any day.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Big Peg ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:22PM

25 years of a growing economy. Wouldn't want that again would we?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:38PM

Big Peg Wrote:
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> 25 years of a growing national debt. Wouldn't want that
> again would we?


There. Fixed it for you.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: DummyCraps ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:40PM

This is how stoopid Democrats are.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone

They do things like making a political funny while using a racial slur and then prove to be more of a dumbass than those they are using racial slurs to desribe.

I didn't think it was that funny to begin with but the mistake makes it hillarious.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:43PM

Apparently someone forgot to close the gate after the Craigslist "rants and rave" crowd left the last time.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: DickEatinCrats ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:44PM

- blah blah blah during her interview a the Tea Party.

We know who the "A's" are.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:44PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Apparently someone forgot to close the gate after
> the Craigslist "rants and rave" crowd left the
> last time.

Fairy, another brilliant fucking post. YOU are da MAN, man! Keep 'em comin'!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:45PM

Huge #1 Fan Wrote:
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> Fairy, another brilliant fucking post. YOU are da
> MAN, man! Keep 'em comin'!



Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like fucking supermodels and shit?


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:47PM

eesh Wrote:
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> Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like
> fisting supermodels and shit?

Fixed it for ya.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Mini Vinny ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:56PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Hope Is A Joke Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's time to shake up both parties! But
> especially
> > the democrats.
>
>
> Lets see..on one side we have a party that brought
> us 25 years of a "free market fraud"...a party who
> brought us nearly 8 years of war...a party of
> "just say no"!
>
> I'll take the dems any day.

Vinny,

You are real good at your picks. Who'd you pick to win the superbowl this year? The St. Louis Rams?

I'll pick a winner for you....The party of Reagan. The base is speaking.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 02:58PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
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>
> > Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach, like
> > fisting supermodels and shit?
>
> Fixed it for ya.

Yeah, that's right Fairy, only Inktard would dare question your reign on queerness. You are a pathetic little pussy.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:08PM

FAIRFAXDUDE, YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS YOU CAN"T GET TATTOOED LIZARD NOSED TRAILER TRASH LIKE THIS.
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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:11PM

Huge #1 Fan Wrote:
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> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > eesh Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Aren't you supposed to be in South Beach,
> like
> > > fisting supermodels and shit?
> >
> > Fixed it for ya.
>
> Yeah, that's right Fairy, only Inktard would dare
> question your reign on queerness. You are a
> pathetic little pussy.

He seems to only think it is one person that calls him out on his usual stupidity. He doesn't realize that there are many people on the site that despise him with his Fairy ways.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:14PM

LOL, a repeat of the classic Ink-tard skank.

I bet that fake flower is covering the welt from the baseball bat the night before, right, Inky?

LOL@"lizard nosed trailer trash".

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:17PM

What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching the guys your apartment complex contracted out to clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage to cook today? I see you are still searching for those illusive "original thoughts" huh?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:21PM

Unlike YOU, Vince(r) the nameless trolls (like you and ink-tard) don't even get acknowledged.

Wasn't it YOU accusing others of derailing threads with gay/queer/man-love comments? Welcome to the unwashed masses, douchebag.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fox News Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:23PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching
> the guys your apartment complex contracted out to
> clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage to
> cook today? I see you are still searching for
> those illusive "original thoughts" huh?


+100 Anyone that doesn't believe Palin is awesome and that global warming is a communist conspiracy is a faggot idiot. Speaking of faggots, I hope we can pass a law like Uganda has. Death to all faggots.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:24PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Unlike YOU, Vince(r) the nameless trolls (like you
> and ink-tard) don't even get acknowledged.
>
> Wasn't it YOU accusing others of derailing threads
> with gay/queer/man-love comments? Welcome to the
> unwashed masses, douchebag.

Aww...

Better take your prozac and get those nerves in check. And I am just calling you out on your usual man-love issues. Glad to see you have acknowledged your own inner douchebag.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2010 03:29PM by Registered Voter.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:24PM

Fox News Voter Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What's the matter FF? You get tired of watching
> > the guys your apartment complex contracted out
> to
> > clearing snow from the parking lot? No sausage
> to
> > cook today? I see you are still searching for
> > those illusive "original thoughts" huh?
>
>
> +100 Anyone that doesn't believe Palin is awesome
> and that global warming is a communist conspiracy
> is a faggot idiot. Speaking of faggots, I hope we
> can pass a law like Uganda has. Death to all
> faggots.

You can believe whatever you want - you don't speak for me. And what you stated has nothing to do with anything I have ever stated here.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:30PM

Can somebody please buy Vince(r) a new insult dictionary? I hate to watch a grown man prove himself a complete and utter douchebag retard in a public forum.

It's sad to watch.

"cooking sausage"?

"live in an apartment"?

"take your prozac"?

Seriously, Vince(r), step up your game or GTFO. Jebus.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:34PM

Just describing your lifestyle "Dude" - don't be embarrassed about it. Unlike you, I don't spend my time thinking up how to insult folks for no reason other than the fact that you can't think of anything else.

Maybe if you had some original thoughts you wouldn't be stuck in a rut, spending your days repetitively insulting people you don't know since you have nothing else better to focus your massive intellect on.

Sure, I discuss issues - I know that is boring for you. That would actually require you to think beyond yourself.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fox News Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:42PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Just describing your lifestyle "Dude" - don't be
> embarrassed about it. Unlike you, I don't spend my
> time thinking up how to insult folks for no reason
> other than the fact that you can't think of
> anything else.
>
> Maybe if you had some original thoughts you
> wouldn't be stuck in a rut, spending your days
> repetitively insulting people you don't know since
> you have nothing else better to focus your massive
> intellect on.
>
> Sure, I discuss issues - I know that is boring for
> you. That would actually require you to think
> beyond yourself.



+100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family Values" and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."

People that don't share right wing Christian values are sodomites that live in apartments and cook pork products.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 03:50PM

You are much more a Vince(r) then I am Fox News Voter.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:00PM

Oh, no, Vince(r)/Reggie....au contraire!

You ARE Vince(r), through and through. Completely and utterly. Nary a question on that!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:01PM

Fox News Voter Wrote:

> +100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple
> things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family Values"
> and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."
>
> People that don't share right wing Christian
> values are sodomites that live in apartments and
> cook pork products.


LMAO Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity RULE!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:12PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Oh, no, Vince(r)/Reggie....au contraire!
>
> You ARE Vince(r), through and through. Completely
> and utterly. Nary a question on that!

Explain that, would you please? I am not sure I understand your thinking on this. Was it because WTL said it? Or do you have some examples of ways I have responded that are the same as V? I just want to get your take on it since you can't seem to figure out your own muddled thought process unless it is handed to you.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: February 10, 2010 04:26PM

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Huge #1 Fan ()
Date: February 10, 2010 05:46PM

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Fox News Voter Wrote:
>
> > +100 It seems FairyDude can't understand simple
> > things like "Palin is the Messiah" "Family
> Values"
> > and "Global Warming is a left wing conspiracy."
> >
> > People that don't share right wing Christian
> > values are sodomites that live in apartments
> and
> > cook pork products.
>
>
> LMAO Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity RULE!

Fairy, You are the KING OF ZING. Can't wait to see more of your handy work!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 06:44PM

Big Peg Wrote:
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> 25 years of a growing economy. Wouldn't want that
> again would we?


It was a 25 year Ponzi Scheme...growth at the exepense of an indusrial base...over spending...under taxing. It doesnt take a genious to figure out that if you sell over your infrastructure....increase defense spending...and hand back the rich their fair share of the tax base..you get growth..for some period of time....but then it catches up with you.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: February 10, 2010 07:01PM

You mean a Ponzi scheme like social security, medicare and the proposed health care plan. All are based on the participants to keep increasing and we all know there is a saturation point where the base does not grow. Instead more is being taken out than put in.

Obamas proposed health care plan was formulated on four years of taxes being paid and a delay on the plan actually taking effect. Once revenues from four years were collected then the plan would start. A few more years and the plan would be breaking even. A few more years and it would start to go into debt. At that point you either raise taxes or borrow.

All this assumes during the four years while collecting revenues that the government doesnt raid the fund for some other pressing matter.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: February 10, 2010 07:03PM

p.s. Vince before you start screaming about Republicans or George Bush I do not really care for either party. Both are responsible for excessive spending.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: February 10, 2010 10:04PM

Tim45 Wrote:
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> You mean a Ponzi scheme like social security,
> medicare and the proposed health care plan. All
> are based on the participants to keep increasing
> and we all know there is a saturation point where
> the base does not grow. Instead more is being
> taken out than put in.
>
> Obamas proposed health care plan was formulated on
> four years of taxes being paid and a delay on the
> plan actually taking effect. Once revenues from
> four years were collected then the plan would
> start. A few more years and the plan would be
> breaking even. A few more years and it would start
> to go into debt. At that point you either raise
> taxes or borrow.
>
> All this assumes during the four years while
> collecting revenues that the government doesnt
> raid the fund for some other pressing matter.


Hardly...those programs were/are as far from Ponzi schemes as you can get. No one ever has or ever will loose a penny invested in them. Any funding issues associated with those programs could be easily eliminated with proper funding. And why have those programs gone under funded? Well...it aint because democrats want them disestablished.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: honest joe ()
Date: February 11, 2010 04:06PM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Tim45 Wrote:
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> Hardly...those programs were/are as far from Ponzi
> schemes as you can get.

Well to be fair, there are some similar elements shared between a Ponzi Scheme and Social Security. The fact that the government uses income from current workers to pay benefits to the recipients is just one commone element. The major difference is that Ponzi schemes eventually run out of contributers, Social Security, in theory, should never. Also, no on is misled the same way as in a Ponzi Scheme.

> No one ever has or ever will loose a penny invested in them.

Actually, by my rough caluclations (using today's dollars) I will lose a pretty substantial sum. If I retire at 66 and recieve the max monthly return of $2,346/month and live to the average age of a white male of around 77 or 78, I will take in about $310,000 in SS benefits. I have a ways to go before I hit that age, but I have been self employed a few years now and intend to be that way until retirement. I put aout $13K into Social security each year. My retirement age is more than 20 years away. For the sake of argument, lets assume I continue to do this for about 25 more years. I will have put about $330,000 into the system. That alone exceeds what I will likely withdraw. Also, it doesn't take into account the $80K or so I put into the system or my employers' matches before I became self employed.

So, you can't really guarentee I'll make back what I put in. If I invested even EXTREMELY conservatively, I'd be much better off.

If you want to say I am helping a program that is a security net for those who are less well off, fine, I can buy that, but don't try to tell me I am getting back what I put in.

> Any funding issues associated with those programs could be
> easily eliminated with proper funding. And why
> have those programs gone under funded? Well...it
> aint because democrats want them disestablished.

Did the Dems ever raid the trust fund?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Mr. Misery ()
Date: February 14, 2010 12:52AM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.
>
> Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
> February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm
>
> By BOB LEWIS
> AP Political Writer
>
>
> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected
> black governor is calling for Democratic National
> Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.
>
> In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site
> Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder
> said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of
> reversals in governor's races and special
> congressional elections under Kaine's watch.
>
> In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder
> said his comments about Kaine, whose term as
> Virginia's governor expired last month, were not
> personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with
> Kaine's leadership.
>
> Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack
> Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became
> the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964.
> Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning
> the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005
> when Kaine was elected governor.
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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: mother frakker ()
Date: March 08, 2010 12:44PM

Wow, now the Dems are framing their own members up on gay sexual harrassment charges in order to pass healthcare. Stay classy, Nancy and Steny.


On Sunday, the first-term congressman claimed that the "forces that be" orchestrated a character assassination against him to push him out for the sake of the health care bill.

"Mine is now the deciding vote on the health care bill and this administration and this House leadership have said, quote-unquote, they will stop at nothing to pass this health care bill, and now they've gotten rid of me and it will pass. You connect the dots," Massa said.

"The future of the Democratic Party rests on passing this health care bill. They can get anyone to say anything about me concerning anything at all and in fact they did."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:10PM

Those demokrats will stop at nothing in their endless thirst for power. This story about Rahm is priceless. Massa was taking a shower and Rahm walks in naked and touches him.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/08/massa_rahm_emanuel_would_sell_his_own_mother_for_votes.html

Don't vote against the health kare / ObamaKare bill because Obama will send Rahm after you naked. A kongress already rife with corruption in their last three years of control of Kapitol Hill has sunk to new lows, sending Obama administration members nude to members of Kongress who oppose them.

Please please bring Bush back, he never sent Karl Rove anywhere naked to touch other men in a shower.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: ruthless ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:16PM

It really does appear that the Dems are eating their young:

“I was set up for this from the very, very beginning,” he said onWKPQ 105.3 FM in New York. “You think that somehow they didn’t come after me to get rid of me because my vote is the deciding vote in the health care bill? Then, ladies and gentlemen, you live today in a world that is so innocent as to not understand what’s going on in Washington, D.C.”

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/Massa-Rahm-Would-Strap-His-Children-to-a-Locamotive-for-a-Vote-86880847.html#ixzz0hbtwAQZ8

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: conVince ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:33PM

They are not satisfied with making sure all children can be killed before birth, they want to make sure they can be killed AFTER birth as well so they can be eaten. That isn't me saying that, that is a New York demokrat claiming they eat their own.

I love that radio spot, tonight I will pour whiskey into my empty shotgun shells and drink those while laughing!

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 01:49PM

I realize that the Republicans are okay with sexually harassing employees and all, but ever think that this guy is just trying to divert attention from his own fuck up?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 08, 2010 01:50PM

Wait... Bill Clinton....

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 01:52PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Wait... Bill Clinton....


Like I said, ever think that this guy is trying to divert attention from his own fuck up?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:00PM

Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a personal issue, not a party one.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 08, 2010 02:10PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a
> personal issue, not a party one.


The guy is trying to divert attention away from the fact that he sexually harassed a male member of his staff. He wants to blame Emmanuel for this, but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems who haven't supported health care to resign.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: messy massa ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:17PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> He wants to blame Emmanuel for this,
> but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems
> who haven't supported health care to resign......

....yet. But, how many other members has Rahm Emmanuel cornered naked in the shower. If you look at Massa's comments, they are certainly inappropriate, but it appears to be making a mountain out of a molehill. Given the situation, he appears to have been goaded into making an off color comment after a night of drinking.

Besides, you only need to force out one to send a message to the others on the fence.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 08, 2010 02:17PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes well - your "sexual harassment" BS is a
> > personal issue, not a party one.
>
>
> The guy is trying to divert attention away from
> the fact that he sexually harassed a male member
> of his staff. He wants to blame Emmanuel for this,
> but notice Emmanuel hasn't forced the other Dems
> who haven't supported health care to resign.

Not yet anyways.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Fat Filmmaker ()
Date: March 09, 2010 12:20PM

"Democrats on Election Day 2010 are going to get an ass-whoopin' of biblical proportions if things don't change right now." -- Michael Moore

More from Moore:

"Well, you (Obama) and the Democrats have been in charge now for over a year and not one banking regulation has been reinstated. We don't have universal health care. The war in Afghanistan has escalated. And tens of thousands of Americans continue to lose their jobs and be thrown out of their homes. For most of us, it's just simply no longer good enough that Bush is gone. Woo hoo. Bush is gone. Yippee. That hasn't created one new friggin' job."

"I don't know what your team has been up to, but they haven't served you well. And Rahm, poor Rahm, has turned into a fighter -- not of Republicans, but of the left. He called those of us who want universal health care "f***ing retarded." Look, I don't know if Rahm is the problem or if it's Gibbs or Axelrod or any of the other great people we owe a debt of thanks to for getting you elected. All I know is that whatever is fueling your White House it's now running on fumes."

whole letter here - http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/president-obama-replace-rahm-me-open-letter-michael-moore

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: March 09, 2010 12:55PM

Haha, that letter is great.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 01:23PM

I'm stupid.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 01:26PM

and I'm a Democrat

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 05:19PM

I lied.....I'm a republican....we do that all the time.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 05:59PM

Just kidding. As usual I am just like every other brainless Democrat.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: eensy weensy spider ()
Date: March 09, 2010 06:21PM

but srsly, i'm just a gay republican named inka....

like mcdonald's...i'm lovin' it.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 09, 2010 09:27PM

Heh. Even Glenn Beck realizes Massa is a nut...




If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing out that this guy is a loon.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: bling ()
Date: March 10, 2010 04:15AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Heh. Even Glenn Beck realizes Massa is a nut...
>
>
>
>
> If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is
> now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing
> out that this guy is a loon.


+100. LOL.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: speaker's office ()
Date: March 11, 2010 09:48AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> If this wasn't a non-story before, it certainly is
> now. I have to give credit to Beck for pointing
> out that this guy is a loon.

Well, the legs are getting longer on this story. It appears the Speaker's office knew about Massa's harrassing behavior for at least five months before an ethics investigation was started. Why did the Demcratic Leadership in the House allow this to go on for months?


"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office was contacted by a top aide to then-Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) in October with concerns about the lawmaker's behavior toward young, male staffers, a congressional source with knowledge of the investigation into Massa's actions said Wednesday night.

Earlier in the day, the House ethics committee announced that it had closed its investigation of Massa, citing the fact that the Democrat resigned from the House on Monday and was no longer under the panel's jurisdiction.

Joe Racalto, Massa's chief of staff, told Pelosi's director of member services in October that he was uncomfortable with Massa's behavior, specifically that the lawmaker was living with several male staffers and routinely used sexually explicit language with them. The call to Pelosi's director of member services was prompted, according to the source, by the fact that Massa made a lunch date with a young, male staffer who worked in Rep. Barney Frank's (D-Mass.) office.

According to a person briefed on the call, Racalto was concerned that the lunch followed a pattern of Massa trying to spend time alone with young, gay men with no ostensible work purpose. Racalto, according to the source, also alerted Frank's chief of staff at the time.

Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office responded immediately to requests for comment Wednesday night."

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 11, 2010 09:53AM

speaker's office Wrote:
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>
> Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office
> responded immediately to requests for comment
> Wednesday night."


That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this shit for years in the Navy and nothing happened to him. At least Pelosi's office took action after a few months. He had an entire career in the Navy and no one did shit.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: speaker's office ()
Date: March 11, 2010 09:59AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> speaker's office Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's office
> > responded immediately to requests for comment
> > Wednesday night."
>
>
> That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this shit
> for years in the Navy and nothing happened to him.
> At least Pelosi's office took action after a few
> months. He had an entire career in the Navy and no
> one did shit.

"After a few months?" Seriously, you are fucking deluded. What do you think the whole investigation into Hastert was concerning the Foley incident. He knew months before the ethics investigation. You, sersiously don't see the similarities. Plus, Pelosi's office took ZERO action on the matter. They had to go to Hoyer to get things going. What was Pelosi's office doing this whole time? Setting up Massa on more dates? Looking for more roommates for him?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: tickle me massa ()
Date: March 11, 2010 12:04PM

In hindsight, Democratic insiders wondered about activities that before had just seemed odd. They said Massa hired a surprisingly large percentage of young gay men, and paid them so little that staffers were forced to live in the house with him.

"The guy's a freak," a close friend of one embattled Massa aide told the Daily News.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 11, 2010 12:06PM

I guess he figured if Barney Frank could run a brothel, this kind of behavior was fairly tame.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: infighting continues ()
Date: March 11, 2010 02:29PM

Infighting is sparked by earmark ban

By Susan Crabtree and Roxana Tiron - 03/10/10 08:19 PM ET

Democratic appropriators in the Senate and House are fighting over a ban on earmarks to for-profit companies, throwing a wrench in a House attempt to burnish its ethics record before the midterm elections.

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), the chairman of the Senate’s Appropriations Committee, slammed House Appropriations Chairman David Obey’s (D-Wis.) moratorium on earmarks to for-profit companies mere hours after Obey announced it on Wednesday.

Inouye’s decision puts House Democratic leaders in an awkward position and could create a protracted fight over the fiscal 2011 spending bills.

The prospect of an intra-party battle between the two chambers on earmark reform also could delay the approval of appropriations bills until after the November elections.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: CBC upset with Rahmbama ()
Date: March 11, 2010 02:39PM

Members of the Congressional Black Caucus are headed to the White House for a meeting on jobs Thursday, and they’ll have a few words to say about how President Barack Obama is doing his.

The 43-member caucus is fighting through one of the most difficult periods in its 39-year history, and some members and aides said they’re getting far too little support from the nation’s first black president — a man they once believed would be their strongest champion.


House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-Mich.) told POLITICO that White House officials are “not listening” to black lawmakers.


Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) said “there’s not enough attention to poor people.”


And Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) said: “While I respect President Obama, delivering victories for his political future should be the least of our worries on Capitol Hill.”

Aides to CBC members said tensions between black lawmakers and the White House have risen in recent months as the caucus has tried to address the extraordinarily high unemployment rate among African-Americans, while navigating a succession of ethical issues — including the ethics committee ruling that cost CBC member Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) his chairmanship of the Ways and Means Committee last week.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34239.html#ixzz0htmKEbPF

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: teh hypocrisy ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:10PM

speaker's office Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > speaker's office Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Neither Racalto nor anyone from Pelosi's
> office
> > > responded immediately to requests for comment
> > > Wednesday night."
> >
> >
> > That dog won't hunt. This guy was doing this
> shit
> > for years in the Navy and nothing happened to
> him.
> > At least Pelosi's office took action after a
> few
> > months. He had an entire career in the Navy and
> no
> > one did shit.
>
> "After a few months?" Seriously, you are fucking
> deluded. What do you think the whole
> investigation into Hastert was concerning the
> Foley incident. He knew months before the ethics
> investigation. You, sersiously don't see the
> similarities. Plus, Pelosi's office took ZERO
> action on the matter. They had to go to Hoyer to
> get things going. What was Pelosi's office doing
> this whole time? Setting up Massa on more dates?
> Looking for more roommates for him?

Who cares? Is this more offensive than a Congressman who sexts young boys? No.
Didn't the GOP wait months to investigate and disclose Foley's actions? Yes.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Reading is FUNdamental ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:18PM

teh hypocrisy Wrote:
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> Didn't the GOP wait months to investigate and
> disclose Foley's actions? Yes.

I see you can hit the quote button, but can you read?

"What do you think the whole investigation into Hastert was concerning the Foley incident? He knew months before the ethics investigation."

Speaking of hypocrisy.......

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Taking Names and Breaking Laws ()
Date: March 11, 2010 04:27PM

The Obama administration may have broken the law by offering Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.) a job in order to persuade him not to mount a primary challenge against Sen. Arlen Specter.


Sestak has said that the administration offered him a high-ranking government job if he’d stay out of the race. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs has been asked repeatedly about the accusation in recent weeks but so far has neither confirmed nor denied that a job was offered.


But in a letter to White House general counsel Robert Bauer Wednesday, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said that, if Sestak’s allegation is true, administration officials may have violated a federal statute which makes it a crime for a government employee to use his authority “for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate” for certain offices, including Senate seats.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34221.html#ixzz0huDNiPSy

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Caddell & Schoen ()
Date: March 12, 2010 02:18PM

Their blind persistence in the face of reality threatens to turn this political march of folly into an electoral rout in November. In the wake of the stinging loss in Massachusetts, there was a moment when the president and the Democratic leadership seemed to realize the reality of the health-care situation. Yet like some seductive siren of Greek mythology, the lure of health-care reform has arisen again.

As pollsters to the past two Democratic presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, respectively, we feel compelled to challenge the myths that seem to be prevailing in the political discourse and to once again urge a change in course before it is too late. At stake is the kind of mainstream, common-sense Democratic Party that we believe is crucial to the success of the American enterprise.

Unless the Democrats fundamentally change their approach, they will produce not just a march of folly but also run the risk of unmitigated disaster in November.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102904.html



Bluntly put, this is the political reality:

First, the battle for public opinion has been lost. Comprehensive health care has been lost. If it fails, as appears possible, Democrats will face the brunt of the electorate's reaction. If it passes, however, Democrats will face a far greater calamitous reaction at the polls. Wishing, praying or pretending will not change these outcomes.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:35AM

Last week's report was worse than it appeared; the latest health care wrinkle would damage things further.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/jobs-false-improvement-proposed-destruction/?singlepage=true
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...
Harry Reid could have tried to tell us how great February’s NSA 473,000-job pickup was. In context, it wasn’t that great at all. In fact, as you can see above, it came in lower than February 2008, when the people at the National Bureau of Economic Research say we were in the third month of an economic recession as they define it (as normal people define it, the recession didn’t begin until the third quarter of 2008). Moreover, it was 241,000 jobs lower than the February 2004-2008 average. If the employment situation were really in recovery in February, that difference would have been almost zero. Beyond that, February’s actual result using this metric was far worse than January’s, when the result only trailed the January 2004-2008 average by 72,000.

This isn’t an improvement; it’s a serious deterioration.

The only reason February’s SA number of -36,000 came in as low as it did (but still worse than January’s) is that the SA calculation took February 2009’s free-fall result into account, making it a statistically correct result that confuses more than it enlightens. Further evidence supporting that point is that the SA result for February 2010 is better than February 2008, which as already shown based on what really happened, doesn’t reflect the underlying reality.
...

We will have to see what the next 6 months brings. But based on those numbers, February was still BAD. An improvement compared to some of the previous months, sure, but there still job LOSSES in a month when normally we would have significant net gains of jobs. Especially when comparing Jan 2010 result of only a -72,000 job difference on average, to the Feb 2010 result of -241,000 job difference to the average. All the health care legislation is causing businesses to hold off hiring as well. Part-time hiring will be significantly different if this legislation passes as well - and likely will suffer because of it.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:43AM

Related...

A Big Snow Job
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=525658
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...
We're sad to say, the picture is even worse than it appears.

Take that "only 36,000" figure. The real number is actually 51,000 jobs lost, because the government counts 15,000 temporary workers hired by the Census as new jobs. But these jobs aren't, in any meaningful sense, real full-time jobs.

Would things have been better without all the snow? Undoubtedly. But we still would have lost jobs.

Then of course there's the very definition of unemployment.

If you count those who are discouraged or working part-time when they want a full-time job, the jobless rate soars to 16.8%.

Private sector employment gauges pretty much show the same thing. For instance, the pollsters at Gallup each month ask Americans questions about their employment. In February, the Gallup report shows, some 19.8% of Americans reported that they were underemployed or not employed at all.

That's one out of five workers — and even more than the 15 million unemployed estimated by the government.

What's troubling is the obliviousness of Washington to this problem — the utter cluelessness they have about the most basic economic principles that guide our economy.
...

The DC area is oblivious to the reality. Check places like Danville and other rural area of Virginia and you will find it is much worse then here. And that is just in Virginia.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:44AM

Healthcare
Global Warming
Foreign Policy

Can the fox "news" bobble heads please stop reading the republican party talking points and think for "themselves"? I doubt it.

And what is Rupert Murdock's response to all these issues>

Invade Iran...North Korea
Build hunders of nuclear power plants
Drill baby drill

The same old crap designed to feed the power structure!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:47AM

Yeah, other than invading Iran (which no one has been calling for) - feeding the power structure creates jobs you moron. Russia just committed to building 12 nuclear power plants in India. That is some serious job creation right there.

Drilling in America is a good thing, because we would actually produce a commodity that people want to purchase, thus driving our trade deficits down. Another GOOD thing for the economy.

You are such a fucking moron. Seriously, you should go on a national talk show and try to peddle the BS you spread here. You would be laughed out on your ass so fast it isn't even funny.

EDIT: BTW - where ARE the republican party talking points? I have never seen them. Common sense is all it takes to come to these conclusions.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:54AM

The Budget That Devoured America?
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=527054
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Federal Spending: It's a good thing President Obama isn't in the private sector. If he was, the budget he just put forward for the next 10 years just might get him indicted for fraud.

Of all the promises the president made during the 2008 presidential campaign and last year's budget debates, none rings so hollow now as the pledge of "fiscal responsibility."

...

Spending, of course, is the big reason. As David Freddoso of the Washington Examiner points out, the budget plan submitted by the president shows spending growing each and every year over the next decade — despite the worst fiscal crisis of our nation's history.

All told, spending will swell from $3.5 trillion, or 20% of GDP, in 2009 to $5.7 trillion, or 25.2% of GDP, in 2020. Since World War II, debt has averaged 20% of GDP, so the 2020 projection represents a permanent increase of 25% in the size of government that will weigh like a millstone around the economy's neck. Spending over the next 10 years will balloon by $19.7 trillion.

Amazing. How do you propose that large an increase in spending over the years - an increase - knowing that you are already in debt up to your ears, and no end in sight of deficits. It is like these folks are totally disconnected from reality - well in fact they are.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 08:55AM

Drilling in America is the equivalent of deficit spending. Drill today to satisfy today's problem...forget that perhaps in a hundred years our military....our economy may need those resources even more then they do today...when there is a real shortage. There is no shortage of oil today...we just want our cheap oil now..and fuck the future...fuck our kids...fuck our grandkids. Id rather burn a gallon of oil pumopd out of the ground in Canada..venezuelia...Saudi Arabia then U.S. soil. If we are concerned about reducing our dependence on oil...alternative fuels...is the answer..not drill baby drill.

You double moron!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:02AM

Ooh - I am a "double moron" lol. Wow V - please, don't be so insulting huh?

Nice comeback with your NON FACTUAL response as usual. I guaranty you that this deficit spending and budget crisis will far overshadow any issue oil will cause in the future. They are moving to get more alternative energy in place, and recent breakthroughs in battery design and types, along with natural gas will make a huge difference in our ability to transition to whatever future energy we can develop. There is quite a bit of money invested in alternative energy research right now. And no amount of drilling in the US will change that.

What you fail to comprehend in that single celled brain of yours Vince is that the fundamental reality and perception on the ground has changed. Everyone (except you) understands that if we don't drill soon, we will have $8-$10/gallon or more gasoline prices in the near future, and it will bring our economy to a halt. Even the gloomy and dire predictions you hear today over the budget issues will pale in comparison if we don't keep the energy prices in check while we transition to something else.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:04AM

Triple moron...you are nothing but a fox "news" tool....we could pump every drop of oil out of our ground and the effect on price would be minimal. China...India demand is growing faster then anyone can pump out of the ground.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:05AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Triple moron...you are nothing but a fox "news"
> tool....we could pump every drop of oil out of our
> ground and the effect on price would be minimal.
> China...India demand is growing faster then anyone
> can pump out of the ground.

OOh - OK. You "told me" didn't you!

LOLOLOLOLOL

Classic.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:16AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOL...classic triple back at you!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: March 13, 2010 09:36AM

Here is one of the innovations and a company that would be great to invest in once they go public.

Infinite Power Solutions, Inc
http://www.infinitepowersolutions.com/

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: one less vote ()
Date: March 18, 2010 10:45AM

Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, says a proposed parliamentary move to pass health-care reform would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility of Congress.

In a sign of how tough it’s been for Pelosi to round up votes for the massive bill, Lynch - a South Boston Democrat who supported a House reform package last year - said he’ll probably vote against a key Senate version of the legislation, unless unexpected major changes are made soon.

Lynch, who serves as one of Pelosi’s key vote counters, said he also can’t support a proposed “deem and pass” procedure that would allow Democrats to vote to strip out controversial portions of the Senate bill and then “deem” that the entire package has passed without a second, direct vote.

“It’s disingenuous,” said Lynch, who considers unfair a Senate provision to tack a surcharge on higher-end health plans. “It would really call into question the credibility of the House.”

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Date: March 18, 2010 10:50AM

one less vote Wrote:
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> Even one of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s floor
> whips, U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, says a proposed
> parliamentary move to pass health-care reform
> would be “disingenuous” and harm the credibility
> of Congress.
>

Congress is at a 17 percent approval rating now. Would that seriously be a consideration?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: one less vote ()
Date: March 18, 2010 02:20PM

Nevermind. I cannot debate with you, WTL. I am a fragile, weakminded Republican. Please show mercy on me.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Herseth Sandlin ()
Date: March 18, 2010 05:07PM

Top Blue Dog: Slaughter solution is 'poison'
By Eric Zimmermann - 03/18/10 02:19 PM ET

The co-chairwoman of the Blue Dog Coalition says that using a controversial "deem and pass" mechanism to pass healthcare reform would be "poison."


In a conference call with reporters today, Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.), who is a "firm no" on the bill itself, said the process Democrats are considering would spell disaster for the climate in Congress.

"While deeming, like reconciliation, has been used by Republicans and Democrats in the past, the context in which it would be used in this case leads me to conclude that it would poison an already terribly partisan atmosphere and leave the Congress even less able to find bipartisan solutions to fiscal problems that are on the verge of becoming overwhelming," Herseth Sandlin said.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: March 18, 2010 06:23PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Congress is at a 17 percent approval rating now.


it could be worse... barely.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: NY Times ()
Date: April 26, 2010 10:23AM

ASHLAND, Wis. — Representative David R. Obey has won 21 straight races, easily prevailing through wars and economic crises that have spanned presidencies from Nixon’s to Obama’s. Yet the discontent with Washington surging through politics is now threatening not only his seat but also Democratic control of Congress.

Mr. Obey is one of nearly a dozen well-established House Democrats who are bracing for something they rarely face: serious competition. Their predicament is the latest sign of distress for their party and underlines why Republicans are confident of making big gains in November and perhaps even winning back the House.

The fight for the midterm elections is not confined to traditional battlegrounds, where Republicans and Democrats often swap seats every few cycles. In the Senate, Democrats are struggling to hold on to, among others, seats once held by President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Democrats are preparing to lose as many as 30 House seats — including a wave of first-term members — and Republicans have expanded their sights to places where political challenges seldom develop.

Mr. Obey, who leads the powerful Appropriations Committee, is one of three House Democratic chairmen who have drawn serious opposition. Representatives John M. Spratt Jr. of South Carolina, who oversees the Budget Committee, and Ike Skelton of Missouri, who runs the Armed Services Committee, have been warned by party leaders to step up the intensity of their campaigns to help preserve the Democratic majority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25campaign.html?hp

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: April 26, 2010 11:07AM

I dont care if Republicans take over both Houses of Congress...at least they made my 2008 vote count for something....healthcare.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Larks ()
Date: April 26, 2010 11:15AM

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I dont care if Republicans take over both Houses
> of Congress...at least they made my 2008 vote
> count for something....healthcare.


Do you know where you're going when the devil starts to sweat?

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Billinois ()
Date: May 03, 2010 12:04PM

This guy Scott Lee Cohen is a real jewel. Way to go Dems:

* The charges assert that Cohen held a knife to the throat of his ex-girlfriend, a prostitute.

* The court documents alleged that Cohen tried to force his ex-wife to have sex with him. "On May 9, 2005, after having confessed to several affairs he had, he tried to have sex with me, and despite my refusals, he tried to force himself on me until I pushed him away and emphatically told him no," his ex-wife alleged. "In fact, I had been having family members, including my mom and sister, stay with me for the past several weeks because I'm afraid to be home alone with him."




CHICAGO, May 3 (UPI) -- Scott Lee Cohen, who withdrew as a candidate for lieutenant governor after winning the primary, says he will run as an independent for Illinois governor.

The millionaire pawnbroker won the Democratic primary for the state's No. 2 job but withdrew after domestic abuse allegations and his relationship with a prostitute were unearthed by the media. Cohen also admitted using steroids, allegedly failed to make child-support payments and has been named in dozens of lawsuits involving back taxes.

Cohen said he decided to run because he's tired of waste and mismanagement in government. He also said he wants to change the business climate, saying Illinois has few incentives to offer businesses, WBBM-AM, Chicago, reported.

Cohen surprised party leaders by winning the Feb. 2 primary. He was replaced on the ticket by Sheila Simon, the daughter of former Illinois Sen. Paul Simon.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: bite your ear ()
Date: May 03, 2010 12:10PM

Billionaire will seek Florida Senate seat
Jeff Greene, a flamboyant real estate executive who made more than half a billion dollars betting against the housing market, will announce tomorrow he is seeking the Democratic nomination for Senate in Florida, scrambling an already crowded, high-profile, and expensive race, a source close to his camp said Thursday night.

Greene will challenge Miami Rep. Kendrick Meek for the Democratic nomination in a race that will feature frontrunning Marco Rubio as the Republican nominee and Governor Charlie Crist as an independent.

Meek has the firm support of the national Democratic establishment, who fear that despite Greene's billions, his subprime gamble and his lifestyle -- Mike Tyson was the best man at his wedding -- make him unelectable. But Meek has generated little excitement and trails in polls. And Greene may be able to capitalize on a national disgust with insiders and career politicians, a tactic being taken by another wealthy outsider in the state, former hospital executive Rick Scott, who is seeking the Republican nomination for Governor in Florida's manic political scene.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: NC Bluedogs ()
Date: May 05, 2010 12:29PM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.

Here is another one.

N.C. Reps. Shuler and Kissell win, but with strong showings from unknown challengers
By Sean J. Miller - 05/04/10 09:27 PM ET

Democratic Reps. Heath Shuler and Larry Kissell of North Carolina appear to be feeling the heat from their party's base. Both voted against healthcare reform and each ceded almost 40 percent of the primary vote to virtually unknown challengers.

Shuler bested challenger Aixa Wilson by about 60 percent to 40 percent, according to unofficial results, but Wilson edged Schuler by almost 600 votes in Buncombe County, home of Asheville.


Kissell defeated challenger Nancy Shakir 63 to 37 percent.

Meanwhile, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) cruised to the nomination with some 80 percent of the vote, according to the unofficial results. The Democratic primary has broken into a two-way race between Secretary of State Elaine Marshall and former state Sen. Cal Cunningham.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Cheesehead ()
Date: May 05, 2010 01:57PM

In a major blow to Democrats, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey announced that he will not seek reelection, saying he is “ready to turn the page” after a four-decade House career.


The Wisconsin Democrat faces tough poll numbers at home, but until Tuesday night his staff had insisted he was running aggressively and had hired campaign staff. But a person close to him confirmed the decision to POLITICO Wednesday morning, and Obey made the announcement official at a 1 p.m. press conference.


“I’m ready to turn the page and I think frankly that my district is ready for someone new to make a fresh start,” Obey said. “… Frankly, I am bone tired.”


Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a close friend, was informed by Obey of his decision Wednesday morning.


Elected in 1969, the liberal is a major institutional figure who played a leading role in the anti-war and reform movement of the House in the 1970’s. As the Appropriations chairman, he has been a close Pelosi ally who came up through the same panel before moving into the leadership. And his departure follows on the death of Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) this winter, a second Pelosi ally and veteran of the powerful committee.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36812.html#ixzz0n4xbMbHr

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Shitty of Brotherly Love ()
Date: May 06, 2010 11:44AM

More Dem infighting in PA.


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Low Turnout ()
Date: May 06, 2010 01:01PM

And more bad news keeps rolling in.....


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Dem Turnout Falls Off A Cliff
May 5, 2010 10:18 AM | Permalink | Comments (51) | Share This

By Reid Wilson
Turnout among Dem voters dropped precipitously in 3 statewide primaries on Tuesday, giving the party more evidence that their voters lack enthusiasm ahead of midterm elections.

In primaries in NC, IN and OH, Dems turned out at far lower rates than they have in previous comparable elections.

Just 663K OH voters cast ballots in the competitive primary between LG Lee Fisher (D) and Sec/State Jennifer Brunner (D). That number is lower than the 872K voters who turned out in '06, when neither Gov. Ted Strickland (D) nor Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) faced serious primary opponents.

Only 425K voters turned out to pick a nominee against Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). The 14.4% turnout was smaller than the 444K voters -- or 18% of all registered Dem voters -- who turned out in '04, when Gov. Mike Easley (D) faced only a gadfly candidate in his bid to be renominated for a second term.

And in IN, just 204K Hoosiers voted for Dem House candidates, far fewer than the 357K who turned out in '02 and the 304K who turned out in '06.

By contrast, GOP turnout was up almost across the board. 373K people voted in Burr's uncompetitive primary, nearly 9% higher than the 343K who voted in the equally non-competitive primary in '04. Turnout in House races in IN rose 14.6% from '06, fueled by the competitive Senate primary, which attracted 550K voters. And 728K voters cast ballots for a GOP Sec/State nominee in Ohio, the highest-ranking statewide election with a primary; in '06, just 444K voters cast ballots in that race.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: May 06, 2010 01:44PM

Voter turnout is always important. There is no doubt that republicans are energized to get and vote during these midterm elections. They will undoubtedly gain some seats...maybe even a majority in one of the houses. But here's the thing...it'll be just another 2 years when Obama will be running again....and he will get out the democratic vote. Especially if a House or Senate controlled by Republicans gives him the fodder to say "if only I had both houses"...the proof is in the pudding..this session of COngress will go down as an historically active Congress...after 2 years of epublicans being nothing but obstructionists...they'll be ready for a big ass whippin come 2012. I cant wait.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Sestak ()
Date: May 09, 2010 11:08PM

By Mary E. Young
Reading Eagle

U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak of Delaware County, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate seat, speaks Saturday to a crowd of about 100 at the GoggleWorks Center for the Arts.

The latest poll results show the Democratic nomination for the U.S. Senate is within reach, U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak told a cheering crowd Saturday.

Sestak, who is facing Sen. Arlen Specter in the May 18 primary election, said he appreciates Specter's 30 years of service, but visits to all 67 counties last summer showed that people want changes in policy and politics.

"It's time to move forward," Sestak told about 100 people gathered on the parking lot at the GoggleWorks Center for the Arts. "There has to be a change."

The poll by Muhlenberg College's Polling Institute shows that in the last week Sestak went from trailing Specter by 6 points to being 2 points ahead. Forty-four percent of Democrats surveyed now favor Sestak vs. 42 percent for Specter, the poll found.

Sestak said President Barack Obama was elected because people wanted a leader who was there because of his convictions, not his politics.

They want good policies on issues such as health care, education and economic security, he said.

Before Sestak spoke, Reading activists Carolina Tejada and Bernardo Carbajal warmed up the crowd.

"Our city is suffering," Tejada said. "Our economy is weak. Our schools are impoverished. Our businesses are closing down. Our children are at risk, as well as our seniors. It's not just here in the city of Reading, but everywhere in Pennsylvania.

"It's time for us to choose the best. Joe Sestak is the best."

Afterward, Sestak said he wants to be an ally to Obama, but would not be a yes man if he disagreed with the policy Obama wanted to set.

People want someone they can trust to do the right thing, he said.

"They want someone to be a public servant, not a politician," Sestak said.

Sestak said he thinks he has gained ground in the polls because the nearly 550 events he's attended since January has boosted his name recognition.

And, Specter, 80, of Philadelphia switched parties because he believed he couldn't get re-elected as a Republican.

He has to run on a record that often was aligned with George W. Bush, Sestak said.

Sestak, 58, of Edgmont Township, Delaware County, is a retired Navy admiral.

He is in his second two-year term in the House.

U.S. senators serve six-year terms, and are paid $174,000 annually.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Bubba From Hope ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:07AM

And here we have the more progressive wing of the Democratic Party attacking their moderate members......


LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — For Arkansas voters, the names on the ballot in the Democratic Senate primary election next week will be well known: U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, the two-term incumbent, and her opponent, Lt. Gov. Bill Halter, the father of the state's lottery. But the campaign they have waged is like nothing Arkansas has seen before.

In a state known for face-to-face politics where candidates make the rounds of small-town events like the Gillett Coon Supper and the Slovak Oyster Supper, the race for Lincoln's Senate seat has been overwhelmed by a multimillion-dollar, televised proxy battle among some of the nation's largest interest groups for supremacy in the Democratic Party.

The race has become a referendum on key parts of the national Democratic agenda, including the health care overhaul, climate change regulations and union organizing. Democratic activists hope it will settle whether conservative Democrats like Lincoln can go their own way as members elsewhere fight for the party's most progressive goals. Also in question is whether populist, union-backed candidates like Halter can win in a conservative state.

The primary election race has already cost more than Lincoln's entire 2004 campaign. Outside interest groups have spent more than $2.1 million on television ads in the last few months. Total TV spending, including the candidates' spots, reached $5 million before early voting began last week, according to Kantar CMAG, which tracks political ads.

Most polls have shown Lincoln leading but not by enough to win outright in the May 18 primary. A third candidate, Little Rock businessman D.C. Morrison, could force a runoff between Halter and Lincoln. Polls also show Republican U.S. Rep. John Boozman leading among the eight Republicans seeking the GOP nomination for Lincoln's seat.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Take Me Home Country Roads ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:13AM

And here we have a Democrat getting close to knocking off an incumbent because the incumbent Democrate isn't conservative enough.

Am I reading that right? The Democrat is connected to the Tea Party?


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Alan Mollohan, the incumbent Democrat from West Virginia's 1st Congressional district, is facing perhaps his toughest re-election in nearly three decades in Congress.

Mollohan is squaring off today in the Democratic primary against state Sen. Mike Oliverio, an upstart who's put the incumbent on the defensive over his record in Washington. A recent television ad from Oliverio slammed Mollohan as "one of the most corrupt members of Congress." The state legislator has also skewered Mollohan for his vote in favor of health care reform and for initially supporting cap-and-trade.

And Mollohan has been criticized for his propensity as an Appropriations subcommittee chairman to steer millions of dollars in earmarks to the district. Once seen as a virtue in a congressman's re-election campaign, earmarks this year have become symbolic of overspending by Washington.

Despite the challenge from his right, Mollohan is receiving help from the National Rifle Association, which is reaching out to voters in the district to highlight his 100 percent voting record and "A+" rating with the organization.

He's also responded with a TV ad, calling Oliverio "right wing" and tying him to the Tea Party and the state Republican Party.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: Robin's Nest ()
Date: May 11, 2010 10:44AM

Dems really can't get their shit together. They are about to lose a seat that has been reliably Democratic since it came into existence except for four years. It is also the Congressional District of Obama's birth and youth.

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Dems may abandon House race in Hawaii
By DAVID ESPO (AP) – 4 days ago

WASHINGTON — Despite spending more than $300,000, frustrated House Democrats may abandon efforts to win a special election in Hawaii after quiet diplomacy failed to end a high-level party feud that threatens their prospects.

"It's an extremely difficult race, since two Democratic candidates are splitting the vote," said Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

"The local Democrats haven't been able to come together and resolve that, so we'll have to re-evaluate our participation."

Recent public and private polls show Republican Charles Djou ahead in a race to fill out the remaining few months in the term of former Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who left Congress earlier this year to run for governor.

Djou's rivals include former Democratic Rep. Ed Case, runner-up in the polls, and fellow Democrat Colleen Hanabusa, the state Senate president, who trails further behind in a race with more than a dozen candidates in all. The winner-take-all race is by mail ballot, which must be received by election officials by May 22.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: WV Woes ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:09AM

and the implosion grows worse......


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WASHINGTON — Representative Alan Mollohan, a 14-term Democrat, has become the first House member of the 2010 campaign to lose a re-election bid after a West Virginia state senator defeated him.

Unofficial returns from Tuesday's election showed state Senator Mike Oliverio leading Mollohan 56 percent to 44 percent in the primary vote to become the Democratic Party's candidate for mid-term elections in November.

Oliverio accused Mollohan, who has held his post for nearly three decades, of being a corrupt and out-of-touch Washington politician in an election year where anti-incumbent sentiment is running high.

The race turned ugly, with Oliverio labeling Mollohan, first elected in 1982 to a seat long held by his father, as "one of the most corrupt members of Congress," charges the incumbent dismissed as lies.

Mollohan, 66, came under fire from anti-abortion activists for his support of the Democrats' sweeping healthcare reform bill and was criticized in coal-heavy West Virginia for his eleventh-hour opposition to climate change legislation.

"This was a tough and spirited primary process and we are confident that this historically Democratic seat will remain Democratic this November," Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Chris Van Hollen said in a statement.

"On behalf of the DCCC, I thank Alan for friendship and his outstanding years of service to our country and West Virginia."

Oliverio, 46, will face former state Republican Party chairman David McKinley in this fall's mid-term elections.

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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:10AM

L. Douglas Wilder Wrote:
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> As the left continues to predict and salivate over
> the notion of a GOP fracture, they continue to
> ignore the implosion happening right under their
> own feet.
>
> Former Va. governor urges DNC chair's ouster
> February 9, 2010 - 3:51pm
>
> By BOB LEWIS
> AP Political Writer
>
>
> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The nation's first elected
> black governor is calling for Democratic National
> Committee chairman Tim Kaine's ouster.
>
> In a column Tuesday on the political news Web site
> Politico, former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder
> said the Democratic Party has suffered a series of
> reversals in governor's races and special
> congressional elections under Kaine's watch.
>
> In an interview with The Associated Press, Wilder
> said his comments about Kaine, whose term as
> Virginia's governor expired last month, were not
> personal. Wilder said he's just disappointed with
> Kaine's leadership.
>
> Wilder and Kaine were among President Barack
> Obama's chief supporters in 2008 when Obama became
> the first Democrat to win Virginia since 1964.
> Obama chose Kaine to head the DNC after winning
> the presidency. Wilder supported Kaine in 2005
> when Kaine was elected governor.


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Re: The Democratic Implosion Continues
Posted by: RV out of the closet ()
Date: May 12, 2010 10:12AM

infighting continues Wrote:
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> Infighting is sparked by earmark ban
>
> By Susan Crabtree and Roxana Tiron - 03/10/10
> 08:19 PM ET
>
> Democratic appropriators in the Senate and House
> are fighting over a ban on earmarks to for-profit
> companies, throwing a wrench in a House attempt to
> burnish its ethics record before the midterm
> elections.
>
> Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), the chairman of the
> Senate’s Appropriations Committee, slammed House
> Appropriations Chairman David Obey’s (D-Wis.)
> moratorium on earmarks to for-profit companies
> mere hours after Obey announced it on Wednesday.
>
> Inouye’s decision puts House Democratic leaders in
> an awkward position and could create a protracted
> fight over the fiscal 2011 spending bills.
>
> The prospect of an intra-party battle between the
> two chambers on earmark reform also could delay
> the approval of appropriations bills until after
> the November elections.



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