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eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: back to work ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:49AM

No big payday today, daddy. Guess it's back to sucking cock under the Midlothian bridge to make ends meet.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: insider info ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:55AM

word on the street is, someone will be taking eesh to court next week

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Hutch ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:00PM

insider info Wrote:
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> word on the street is, someone will be taking eesh
> to court next week

"word on the street" ????
Have you talking to Huggy Bear?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: black bird ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:17PM

a little birdie who's currently incarcerated told me she's been in touch with miz over the fact that eesh still stalks him

does not bode well for the extension of the protective orders against him

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Wants Your Money ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:22PM

black bird Wrote:
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> a little birdie who's currently incarcerated told
> me she's been in touch with miz over the fact that
> eesh still stalks him
>
> does not bode well for the extension of the
> protective orders against him

People in jail like playing both sides as long the money keeps coming in.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: dpcwk ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:25PM

black bird Wrote:
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> a little birdie who's currently incarcerated told
> me she's been in touch with miz over the fact that
> eesh still stalks him

It's called paranoia.

> does not bode well for the extension of the
> protective orders against him

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: p9jjm ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:34PM


If it was dismissed without any argument heard it's called QUASHED.

Quashing is illegal.

Fairfax County Courthouse has done it countless times.

Fairfax County Courthouse guarantees quashes by threatening their opponents the guy with the gun will take them away if they SPEAK.


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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: mini stegosaurus ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:51PM

Can you still post if your banned? Asking for a friend.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: why so mad? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:56PM

what's morono ranting about now?
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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Steven Stephenson ()
Date: January 04, 2019 12:59PM

Geez, This guy seems bitter. Who is he?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: new charges? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 01:00PM

Looks like eesh violated the protective order again, going from what he wrote up there...

Are new charges afoot?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: booty-house shuffle ()
Date: January 04, 2019 01:23PM

looks like it could be back to the booty house for eeshy boy. How does that make you feel Mikey? Was it worth it?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: So What's Up? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 01:26PM

booty-house shuffle Wrote:
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> looks like it could be back to the booty house for
> eeshy boy. How does that make you feel Mikey?
> Was it worth it?

Is someone pressin’ charges again?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Greetings from Fluvanna ()
Date: January 04, 2019 01:26PM

Monique has agreed to testify (once again) against Michael Basl, next week. It will mean an automatic extension of the protective orders, and who knows, maybe even some new charges will be initiated?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Yes. ()
Date: January 04, 2019 01:29PM

So What's Up? Wrote:
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> booty-house shuffle Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > looks like it could be back to the booty house
> for
> > eeshy boy. How does that make you feel Mikey?
> > Was it worth it?
>
> Is someone pressin’ charges again?


Yes.

eesh ought to be making some calls to the all the local magistrates this weekend. It could be Loudoun, it could be Fairfax, it could be Henrico...hell, it could even be Mt. Vernon.

You are not safe, fat boy...

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Ronald Tollenson ()
Date: January 04, 2019 02:26PM

Any one have 300K I can borrow?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Noticer of trends ()
Date: January 04, 2019 02:32PM

That post on Instagram also coincides with all of the shit posts on ffxu about Eesh. It appears Eesh has moved on, maybe the Morenos should too.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Leiser Law Firm LOLs ()
Date: January 04, 2019 02:33PM

why so mad? Wrote:
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> what's morono ranting about now?
> .


Sharon told William the coke bottle is a better lover than he, so he's lashing out Eesh.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Pruflas ()
Date: January 04, 2019 02:45PM

This thread was clearly started by an autistic retard that thinks a voluntary non-suit by the plaintiff and a dismissal by the court are the same things. Midlothian bridge? That must be where his porker sister sleeps at night.


Maybe it was non-suited because eesh and Chuck worked out the issue...or maybe it's because eesh is removing the case to Circuit Court because Chuck did something sneaky this morning and appealed to the sympathy of one of the most defendant-friendly judges in the entire state of Virginia and non-suited to avoid a motion to change venue.


Enjoy the joinder, Mr. Indispensible Party.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Lolz for days ()
Date: January 04, 2019 03:14PM

Moreno calling someone else a deadbeat?!

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: good for the soul ()
Date: January 04, 2019 03:19PM

black bird Wrote:
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> a little birdie who's currently incarcerated told
> me she's been in touch with miz over the fact that
> eesh still stalks him
>
> does not bode well for the extension of the
> protective orders against him


Could they sue him for more $$$?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: fuyxj ()
Date: January 04, 2019 03:27PM

mini stegosaurus Wrote:
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> Can you still post if your banned? Asking for a
> friend.

tell me when your banned ok?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: vaudeville ()
Date: January 04, 2019 03:29PM

Miz likes to perform autoerotic asphyxiation

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Man with many inches to his dick ()
Date: January 04, 2019 05:30PM

Lolz for days Wrote:
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> Moreno calling someone else a deadbeat?!


How about Moreno calling someone else "fat boy"?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: eesh is the way ()
Date: January 04, 2019 06:23PM

put your trust in eesh and your soul will be set free

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: 2 Time Loser ()
Date: January 04, 2019 06:49PM

Does this make Eesh a 2-time loser? Or, has he lost more times than that?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: More Lolz ()
Date: January 04, 2019 07:55PM

William Moreno calling someone else a faggot?
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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hj6vp ()
Date: January 04, 2019 08:09PM

new charges? Wrote:
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> Looks like eesh violated the protective order
> again, going from what he wrote up there...
>
> Are new charges afoot?


Did another washer hose break? You know that stuff doesn't happen by accident.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: January 04, 2019 08:10PM

It wasn't dismissed; eesh took a nonsuit when it became obvious that Judge Chucker* was going to rule in my favor on my objection to venue and transfer the case to Fairfax County GDC.

Nonsuits are a perfectly valid legal strategy, but you only get one free bite at that apple.

In truth, eesh does come out the winner on this one, 'cause I'm down over $500 in legal fees, train tickets, cab rides, and so forth, and all eesh spent was a few hours of his otherwise worthless time.

*Yes, that is his real name.

"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: No Protective Order ()
Date: January 04, 2019 08:38PM

hj6vp Wrote:
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> new charges? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looks like eesh violated the protective order
> > again, going from what he wrote up there...
> >
> > Are new charges afoot?
>
>
> Did another washer hose break? You know that stuff
> doesn't happen by accident.

There is no protective order. They only last two years and it expired. In order for Miz to get another one he would have to prove he was in fear of eesh, which would be difficult at this point since the Morenos are the ones making the death threats against eesh, trespassing on eesh's property, and travelling hundreds of miles to stalk eesh.

Eesh has never shown the slightest hint of violence, yet Miz has stabbed his own father, Miz has been charged with felony assault, and Miz charged and threatened a witness with his cane at the courthouse. Miz is clearly an insane out of control nut job.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Curious. ()
Date: January 04, 2019 08:40PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> It wasn't dismissed; eesh took a nonsuit when it
> became obvious that Judge Chucker* was going to
> rule in my favor on my objection to venue and
> transfer the case to Fairfax County GDC.
>
> Nonsuits are a perfectly valid legal strategy, but
> you only get one free bite at that apple.
>
> In truth, eesh does come out the winner on this
> one, 'cause I'm down over $500 in legal fees,
> train tickets, cab rides, and so forth, and all
> eesh spent was a few hours of his otherwise
> worthless time.
>
> *Yes, that is his real name.

Can you tell us anything about what this case is over? Anything?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Questions for Chuckles ()
Date: January 04, 2019 08:52PM

Two questions for Chuck:
1. Can you please tell us why you, an elderly man in his mid-sixties, maintain an on-line repository of eesh photos? Wouldn't you rather be sipping sweet tea and looking at Meade photos? Meade is incredibly handsome and talented. Meade could benefit from your wise mentoring.

2. Why can't you and eesh kiss and make up? What the hell is the point in continuing to squabble and file lawsuits against one another?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:01PM

Curious. Wrote:
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> Can you tell us anything about what this case is
> over? Anything?

It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I violated Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the unauthorized use of someone's name or picture.

It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was first passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the second state law passed recognizing the right of privacy (New York passed theirs the year before).

"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: how did you use eesh's pic? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:16PM

did you make him into a video game character?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Character choices ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:24PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Curious. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can you tell us anything about what this case
> is
> > over? Anything?
>
> It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I violated
> Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the unauthorized use
> of someone's name or picture.
>
> It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was first
> passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the second
> state law passed recognizing the right of privacy
> (New York passed theirs the year before).

You could also be subject to copyright claims.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: School of hard knocks ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:33PM

Seems that all of eesh's years battling the Morenos in civil court have made him quite the arm-chair attorney. He's now ready to take what he's learned and apply it to the real world and try to make some real money suing somebody.

I heard he worked as a waiter for a while too.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Game characters ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:37PM

how did you use eesh's pic? Wrote:
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> did you make him into a video game character?

Eesh by himself wouldn't be very interesting in a video game. You really need eesh and Miz together, and better yet Lizzie so they can interact with each other in the game. Or you could have a sex-based game with Megan, a weasel, and countless men and women buzzing around her foetid gash. The highest "score" wins.

If you had to choose a single character for a video game, Meade is the obvious choice, hands down. I'd look forward to seeing a virtual electronic Meade flexing his moobs, humping a bunny, making silly faces, and running around holding balloons. Choose Meade!

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:45PM

how did you use eesh's pic? Wrote:
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> did you make him into a video game character?

I don't know how I was supposed to have used his picture. We never got to the point where he gave me a bill of particulars, which would have told me where I was supposed to have done it.

I didn't use his picture in a video game, no.

"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: inquiring minds want to know ()
Date: January 04, 2019 09:51PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> how did you use eesh's pic? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > did you make him into a video game character?
>
> I don't know how I was supposed to have used his
> picture. We never got to the point where he gave
> me a bill of particulars, which would have told me
> where I was supposed to have done it.
>
> I didn't use his picture in a video game, no.

Why do you have a gigantic hoard of pictures of eesh in your Photobucket account?

http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/chuckhoffmann/library/Michael%20Josef%20Basl

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hj6vp ()
Date: January 04, 2019 10:07PM

Character choices Wrote:
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> chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Curious. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Can you tell us anything about what this case
> > is
> > > over? Anything?
> >
> > It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I
> violated
> > Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the unauthorized
> use
> > of someone's name or picture.
> >
> > It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was first
> > passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the second
> > state law passed recognizing the right of
> privacy
> > (New York passed theirs the year before).
>
> You could also be subject to copyright claims.

Only if he is sued by the person who owns said copyright on whatever photograph. Eesh doesn't own his own likeness under copyright law. He does however under VA statutes.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hj6vp ()
Date: January 04, 2019 10:18PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Curious. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can you tell us anything about what this case
> is
> > over? Anything?
>
> It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I violated
> Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the unauthorized use
> of someone's name or picture.

More precisely you must be attempting to profit apparently. This law appears to run counter to the fair use doctrine though. Newspapers are for profit, so any use of a likeness would be a violation except the First amendment would allow such usage. There is some precedent concerning this.

> It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was first
> passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the second
> state law passed recognizing the right of privacy
> (New York passed theirs the year before).

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Copyright wrong ()
Date: January 04, 2019 10:20PM

hj6vp Wrote:
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> Character choices Wrote:
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> > chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Curious. Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Can you tell us anything about what this
> case
> > > is
> > > > over? Anything?
> > >
> > > It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I
> > violated
> > > Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the
> unauthorized
> > use
> > > of someone's name or picture.
> > >
> > > It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was
> first
> > > passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the second
> > > state law passed recognizing the right of
> > privacy
> > > (New York passed theirs the year before).
> >
> > You could also be subject to copyright claims.
>
> Only if he is sued by the person who owns said
> copyright on whatever photograph. Eesh doesn't own
> his own likeness under copyright law. He does
> however under VA statutes.

Many of them are selfies, which Eesh would hold the copyright on.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hj6vp ()
Date: January 04, 2019 10:33PM

Copyright wrong Wrote:
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> hj6vp Wrote:
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> > Character choices Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Curious. Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Can you tell us anything about what this
> > case
> > > > is
> > > > > over? Anything?
> > > >
> > > > It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I
> > > violated
> > > > Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the
> > unauthorized
> > > use
> > > > of someone's name or picture.
> > > >
> > > > It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was
> > first
> > > > passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the
> second
> > > > state law passed recognizing the right of
> > > privacy
> > > > (New York passed theirs the year before).
> > >
> > > You could also be subject to copyright
> claims.
> >
> > Only if he is sued by the person who owns said
> > copyright on whatever photograph. Eesh doesn't
> own
> > his own likeness under copyright law. He does
> > however under VA statutes.
>
> Many of them are selfies, which Eesh would hold
> the copyright on.

Not really. Once he uploaded them to something like Flicker, he gave a license to Flicker and whatever else was in the terms that no one ever reads.

And even so, Chuck has fair use.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: why mo will testify ()
Date: January 04, 2019 10:36PM

Greetings from Fluvanna Wrote:
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> Monique has agreed to testify (once again) against
> Michael Basl, next week. It will mean an automatic
> extension of the protective orders, and who knows,
> maybe even some new charges will be initiated?


It's a free trip back to Fairfax! Will they haul her in the back of a POHlice car, or in a paddy wagon?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: S & C forgot password ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:08PM

hj6vp Wrote:
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> Copyright wrong Wrote:
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> > hj6vp Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Character choices Wrote:
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Curious. Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Can you tell us anything about what
> this
> > > case
> > > > > is
> > > > > > over? Anything?
> > > > >
> > > > > It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I
> > > > violated
> > > > > Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the
> > > unauthorized
> > > > use
> > > > > of someone's name or picture.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a surprisingly old law, too. It was
> > > first
> > > > > passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the
> > second
> > > > > state law passed recognizing the right of
> > > > privacy
> > > > > (New York passed theirs the year before).
> > > >
> > > > You could also be subject to copyright
> > claims.
> > >
> > > Only if he is sued by the person who owns
> said
> > > copyright on whatever photograph. Eesh
> doesn't
> > own
> > > his own likeness under copyright law. He does
> > > however under VA statutes.
> >
> > Many of them are selfies, which Eesh would hold
> > the copyright on.
>
> Not really. Once he uploaded them to something
> like Flicker, he gave a license to Flicker and
> whatever else was in the terms that no one ever
> reads.
>
> And even so, Chuck has fair use.

Not exactly. Chuck would try to prove that he got the photos from Flickr and that there was no restriction. The Fair use argument is not so simple. Chuck would obviously base his case on Brammer v. Violent Hues, LLC, but eesh could question Chuck's "good faith" and cite Harper & Row v. Nation Enterprises. This would force an answer to the burning question: Why the hell does Chuck Hoffmann keep an online spank stash of eesh photos?

Other cases for eesh: Richard Anderson Photography v. Brown and Phoenix Renovation v. Rodriguez, both in Virginia.

I don't think Brammer would necessarily hold up, and there is a possibility of another landmark decision here. But eesh, really, this is dumb. Chuck same goes for you.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: what if i used miz's pic? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:12PM

If I used the pic of miz and sharon, with sharon perched precariously atop a coke bottle, for some sort of commercial purpose, could they come after me? (This is purely HYPOTHETICAL, of course! Please don't wase your precious time searching for anything)

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: who is they? ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:22PM

Ruth could make a copyright claim because she owns the security camera that took the pic of Sharon and William stalking her house.

If you offered to wash and wax her 6-door pickup truck she might let it slide.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: leave joanna alone! ()
Date: January 04, 2019 11:31PM

Pruflas Wrote:
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> Midlothian bridge? That must be where
> his porker sister sleeps at night.
>
>


The poor girl is blameless in all of this!

And look at what she has suffered:

-having a bedroom next to miz's
-sharing a bathroom with miz
-attending the same schools miz attended
-having to eat with miz every night
-having her parents' lives destroyed
-seeing her family's name dragged throug the mud
-losing her father
-seeing her inheritance squandered

And imagine how hard it will ever be for her to get married once her putative beau meets her family.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hj6vp ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:32AM

S & C forgot password Wrote:
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> hj6vp Wrote:
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> > Copyright wrong Wrote:
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>
> > -----
> > > hj6vp Wrote:
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> >
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> > > > Character choices Wrote:
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> >
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> > > > > chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> > > > > > Curious. Wrote:
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> > >
> >
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>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Can you tell us anything about what
> > this
> > > > case
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > over? Anything?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was a lawsuit for $25,000 claiming I
> > > > > violated
> > > > > > Va. Code § 8.01-40, which is the
> > > > unauthorized
> > > > > use
> > > > > > of someone's name or picture.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a surprisingly old law, too. It
> was
> > > > first
> > > > > > passed in 1904, and AFAIK was only the
> > > second
> > > > > > state law passed recognizing the right
> of
> > > > > privacy
> > > > > > (New York passed theirs the year
> before).
> > > > >
> > > > > You could also be subject to copyright
> > > claims.
> > > >
> > > > Only if he is sued by the person who owns
> > said
> > > > copyright on whatever photograph. Eesh
> > doesn't
> > > own
> > > > his own likeness under copyright law. He
> does
> > > > however under VA statutes.
> > >
> > > Many of them are selfies, which Eesh would
> hold
> > > the copyright on.
> >
> > Not really. Once he uploaded them to something
> > like Flicker, he gave a license to Flicker and
> > whatever else was in the terms that no one ever
> > reads.
> >
> > And even so, Chuck has fair use.
>
> Not exactly. Chuck would try to prove that he got
> the photos from Flickr and that there was no
> restriction. The Fair use argument is not so
> simple. Chuck would obviously base his case on
> Brammer v. Violent Hues, LLC, but eesh could
> question Chuck's "good faith" and cite Harper &
> Row v. Nation Enterprises. This would force an
> answer to the burning question: Why the hell does
> Chuck Hoffmann keep an online spank stash of eesh
> photos?
>
> Other cases for eesh: Richard Anderson
> Photography v. Brown and Phoenix Renovation v.
> Rodriguez, both in Virginia.
>
> I don't think Brammer would necessarily hold up,
> and there is a possibility of another landmark
> decision here. But eesh, really, this is dumb.
> Chuck same goes for you.

My point is that if those images started on Flicker then they are still on Flicker. Flicker is distributing those images, not Chuck, and Flicker has always had a license to distribute those files. It's a subtle point, but one that the law doesn't know how to handle at this time. Links back to the hose files (currently) still count as Flicker distribution. The question of is Chuck in possession of the files is nebulous because you don't really own anything after uploading to one of these services like Instagram, Facebook, etc.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:33AM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> and all
> eesh spent was a few hours of his otherwise
> worthless time.

Attachments:
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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: eesh is vindictive ()
Date: January 05, 2019 12:50AM

I still can't figure out why they want to fuck with eesh. they know they gonna get got!

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: welcome back eesh! ()
Date: January 05, 2019 01:06AM

eesh Wrote:
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> chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > and all
> > eesh spent was a few hours of his otherwise
> > worthless time.


Hope things are well. :)

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: January 05, 2019 07:22AM

Pruflas Wrote:
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> Maybe it was non-suited because eesh and Chuck
> worked out the issue...or maybe it's because eesh
> is removing the case to Circuit Court because
> Chuck did something sneaky this morning and
> appealed to the sympathy of one of the most
> defendant-friendly judges in the entire state of
> Virginia and non-suited to avoid a motion to
> change venue.

No sneakiness was required. I filed an objection to venue because eesh attempted to lay venue in Henrico County, which is contrary to the law.

Eesh knew about this because I mailed him a copy of the objection, as I was required to do by the rules of court. He had about three weeks to prepare his argument as to why my objection should be overruled.

In preparing his argument, he misread the preferred venue statute (Va. Code § 8.01-261), which does not apply to the type of action he brought. Once the judge refreshed himself on the statute*, he explained why eesh's argument was invalid.

Finally, I don't know anything about Judge Chucker being particularly defendant-friendly. My understanding is that Henrico GDC grants a lot of leeway to pro se plaintiffs to make sure that their complaints are properly heard and they get the fairest treatment possible.

*Amusingly, Judge Chucker had to recess the court three times during the hearing to make sure that he was able to render an appropriate decision.

"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: question for chuck ()
Date: January 05, 2019 05:40PM

Was it you who uploaded lizzie's miz rap to YouTube, or just somebody using your name? (ie eesh)

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: January 05, 2019 06:56PM

question for chuck Wrote:
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> Was it you who uploaded lizzie's miz rap to
> YouTube, or just somebody using your name? (ie
> eesh)

It was someone else. I've been impersonated multiple times on various Websites, including YouTube.

It's not worth my time to try and have the fake accounts deleted.

"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: quotation ()
Date: January 05, 2019 07:37PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pruflas Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe it was non-suited because eesh and Chuck
> > worked out the issue...or maybe it's because
> eesh
> > is removing the case to Circuit Court because
> > Chuck did something sneaky this morning and
> > appealed to the sympathy of one of the most
> > defendant-friendly judges in the entire state
> of
> > Virginia and non-suited to avoid a motion to
> > change venue.
>
> No sneakiness was required. I filed an objection
> to venue because eesh attempted to lay venue in
> Henrico County, which is contrary to the law.
>
> Eesh knew about this because I mailed him a copy
> of the objection, as I was required to do by the
> rules of court. He had about three weeks to
> prepare his argument as to why my objection should
> be overruled.
>
> In preparing his argument, he misread the
> preferred venue statute (Va. Code § 8.01-261),
> which does not apply to the type of action he
> brought. Once the judge refreshed himself on the
> statute*, he explained why eesh's argument was
> invalid.
>
> Finally, I don't know anything about Judge Chucker
> being particularly defendant-friendly. My
> understanding is that Henrico GDC grants a
> lot of leeway to pro se
> plaintiffs to make sure that their complaints are
> properly heard and they get the fairest treatment
> possible.
>
> *Amusingly, Judge Chucker had to recess the court
> three times during the hearing to
> make sure that he was able to render an
> appropriate decision.

In case Chuck deletes this later

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: who is impersonating Chuck? ()
Date: January 05, 2019 07:40PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> question for chuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was it you who uploaded lizzie's miz rap to
> > YouTube, or just somebody using your name? (ie
> > eesh)
>
> It was someone else. I've been impersonated
> multiple times on various Websites, including
> YouTube.
>
> It's not worth my time to try and have the fake
> accounts deleted.

Did you create the eesh Photobucket archive or was that an impersonation also?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: and who made this? ()
Date: January 05, 2019 07:46PM

I love all the FFU characters!
And miz being portrayed as the dud.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDuoilhFyk

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Retards ()
Date: January 05, 2019 10:49PM

People actually took time out of their lives for this stupid bullshit. Wow

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Cfrrdfffggh ()
Date: January 06, 2019 06:18AM

Retards Wrote:
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> People actually took time out of their lives for
> this stupid bullshit. Wow

Most of us have federal jobs. I personally am not exactly sure what my true job functions are. The drama on here keeps me from being bored at my desk.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: man with many inches to his dick ()
Date: January 06, 2019 12:25PM

Cfrrdfffggh Wrote:
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> Retards Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People actually took time out of their lives
> for
> > this stupid bullshit. Wow
>
> Most of us have federal jobs. I personally am not
> exactly sure what my true job functions are. The
> drama on here keeps me from being bored at my
> desk.

This.

Plus, I enjoy taunting you Miz. I want to see another lawsuit. This time, instead of being Moreno vs TheNorthman it will be William Moreno vs man with many inches to his dick. Pay Leiser another $300,000 to go after me. Consider it a capital investment. I did call you a pedo for fucking a baby up the ass

And unlike eesh I DO have income and assets to go after. Think about it. You could effectively make my income your income. It's an opportunity of a lifetime. You can't pass it up. Contact Leiser today.

HA!!!

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hey miz! sue me too! ()
Date: January 06, 2019 01:10PM

I'm private sector and don't make much cash, but my folks are rich! I've made HUNDREDS of PYBR jokes on this forum! That must be worth something!
Just one request - I want to see karen in court! She's cute!

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Walter Scott ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:07PM

Hey, Why isn't that mizzy guy responding...he say's he's a bad ass.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: miz may be in the nuthut ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:24PM

he's a preferred customer there

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Smegma the Klown ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:32PM

miz may be in the nuthut Wrote:
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> he's a preferred customer there


He has a punch card...

His next visit is FREEZ.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: man with many inches to his dick ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:34PM

miz may be in the nuthut Wrote:
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> he's a preferred customer there

Nah, he's not in the nuthut at the moment at least. He posted to his "frank krow" Instagram account just a few hours ago. In fact he's probably reading this thread right now!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsTLbe0nFlG/

Miz, you're looking at a potential goldmine of people to sue. Why aren't you jumping on this opportunity? I just don't get it.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Worship His Shadow ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:12PM

One day Eesh will destroy us all.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: try next time 3 for a quarter ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:29PM

Tells me his first victory which it is claimed he defeated all kinds of high powered Lawyers was just a fluke, just a lucky break and not skill.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: will miz sue eesh? ()
Date: January 06, 2019 03:57PM

Also, will lizzie sue miz? Will myeesha sue lizzie?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: still pending, huh? ()
Date: May 26, 2019 10:46AM

I guess the big lawsuit against chuck is still in the works, huh?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: ah yes, the big lawsuit ()
Date: May 27, 2019 02:49AM

To this day nobody wants to explain what it is all about. Does it have anything to do with Chuck having belonged to Team Miz?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Eesh's shitpacked pussy ()
Date: May 27, 2019 09:32AM

Is he suing Chuck for the picture of the pistol Eesh posted with the attached note reading "Hi Chuck"?

Typical Basl Bitch games. Like when Eesh trolls people, but then will be the first to report to Cary about posts on here.
As Cary once said "Eesh is a prolific reporter of abuse in this forum"

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: poor wittle willy ()
Date: May 27, 2019 09:57AM

his fat head is owned

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: It was a ploy to flush out Miz ()
Date: May 27, 2019 11:05AM

Eesh's shitpacked pussy Wrote:
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> Is he suing Chuck for the picture of the pistol
> Eesh posted with the attached note reading "Hi
> Chuck"?
>
> Typical Basl Bitch games. Like when Eesh trolls
> people, but then will be the first to report to
> Cary about posts on here.
> As Cary once said "Eesh is a prolific reporter of
> abuse in this forum"

Maybe he was suing Chuck for all the photos, videos and troll posts that Chuck has made on Facebook, YouTube, and Photobucket. However, Chuck claims that those accounts were made by someone else and that he was impersonated. Chuck would have no reason to lie, and certainly have no reason to create an online archive of eesh photos, and numerous anti-eesh videos.

Thus the lawsuit was probably just a tactic to flush out the impersonator who was the actual creator of the fake Chuck Hoffman social media accounts. It seems to have worked, as the fat basement-dwelling pedophile himself has responded: more troll posts and shitty cartoons from Miz.

Chuck Hoffmann for his part is gone from Fairfax Underground. Chuck is an older guy and probably doesn't care much about this site, nor does he seem particularly bothered that Moreno has created impersonation accounts using his name on Facebook, YouTube, and Photobucket.

It would seem that both eesh and Chuck have better things to do. William Moreno however continues troll people and violate his probation. Typical Moreno Bitch games.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: you love Rainman hahahahahahahah ()
Date: May 27, 2019 04:43PM

You really are obsessed with William.
What do you see in that sick fuck anyhow?
Is it because you have some twisted thing for 40 year old virgins?
Or do you have a Rain man fetish?
Whatever it is, you need help dude

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: stabstabstab hahahahaha ()
Date: May 27, 2019 05:55PM

you love Rainman hahahahahahahah Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You really are obsessed with William.
> What do you see in that sick fuck anyhow?
> Is it because you have some twisted thing for 40
> year old virgins?
> Or do you have a Rain man fetish?
> Whatever it is, you need help dude

Bwahahaha flushed you out!
Attachments:
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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: No balls ()
Date: May 27, 2019 06:02PM

William must have felt really tough trying to stab his elderly father. Willy even looks like someone that commits domestic violence. What a no-balls coward.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ()
Date: May 28, 2019 06:19AM

stabstabstab hahahahaha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> you love Rainman hahahahahahahah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You really are obsessed with William.
> > What do you see in that sick fuck anyhow?
> > Is it because you have some twisted thing for
> 40
> > year old virgins?
> > Or do you have a Rain man fetish?
> > Whatever it is, you need help dude
>
> Bwahahaha flushed you out!

You need to stop using Williams pictures as a masturbation aid. That's pretty fucked up

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Masturbation Aid ()
Date: May 28, 2019 07:03AM

I wanna titty-fuck Sharon.
Attachments:
uiqq2.jpg
sharon moreno.jpg

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: denial ()
Date: May 28, 2019 05:20PM

Masturbation Aid Wrote:
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> I wanna titty-fuck Sharon.


As much as you post about William, it appears like you wanna titty fuck him too.
You can deny it all you want, but we all know how little girls are toward boys. They're mean to the boys they crush on.

Happy sucking faggot

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: why did eesh sue chuck? ()
Date: May 28, 2019 10:40PM

did he have a legitimate campaign? or was he just being a pest?

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: reedickyoulus ()
Date: May 29, 2019 06:13AM

why did eesh sue chuck? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> did he have a legitimate campaign? or was he just
> being a pest?


Chuck wouldn't allow Eesh to suck his dick. Eesh, being the entitled brat he is, sued him

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: May 29, 2019 06:25AM

reedickyoulus Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> why did eesh sue chuck? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > did he have a legitimate campaign? or was he
> just
> > being a pest?
>
>
> Chuck wouldn't allow Miz to suck his dick. Miz,
> being the entitled brat he is, blamed eesh.

Fixed it for you. This has been explained. Miz had created a host of fake social media accounts on Facebook, Youtube, Photobucket, etc. using Chuck's name. William used these impersonation accounts to attack eesh and make it appear that the attack was coming from Chuck.

Chuck Hoffman himself is old and not inclined to care enough to have the accounts taken down. However once he disowned the accounts, the feud was essentially over.

Oh, and enjoy your cum you four-eyed fatass pedophile faggot...
Attachments:
what does cum taste like 2.png
what does cum taste like 3.png
want someone to fuck me up asshole.png
i'm a faggot.png

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: sucks to be u ()
Date: May 29, 2019 08:11AM

Hi William. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> reedickyoulus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > why did eesh sue chuck? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > did he have a legitimate campaign? or was he
> > just
> > > being a pest?
> >
> >
> > Chuck wouldn't allow Miz to suck his dick. Miz,
> > being the entitled brat he is, blamed eesh.
>
> Fixed it for you. This has been explained. Miz
> had created a host of fake social media accounts
> on Facebook, Youtube, Photobucket, etc. using
> Chuck's name. William used these impersonation
> accounts to attack eesh and make it appear that
> the attack was coming from Chuck.
>
> Chuck Hoffman himself is old and not inclined to
> care enough to have the accounts taken down.
> However once he disowned the accounts, the feud
> was essentially over.
>
> Oh, and enjoy your cum you four-eyed fatass
> pedophile faggot...


You see William everywhere. Your obsessed.
You want his stunted nub in your ass
Fucking faggot

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: Hi William. ()
Date: May 29, 2019 08:16AM

sucks to be u Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi William. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > reedickyoulus Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > why did eesh sue chuck? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > did he have a legitimate campaign? or was
> he
> > > just
> > > > being a pest?
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck wouldn't allow Miz to suck his dick.
> Miz,
> > > being the entitled brat he is, blamed eesh.
> >
> > Fixed it for you. This has been explained.
> Miz
> > had created a host of fake social media
> accounts
> > on Facebook, Youtube, Photobucket, etc. using
> > Chuck's name. William used these impersonation
> > accounts to attack eesh and make it appear that
> > the attack was coming from Chuck.
> >
> > Chuck Hoffman himself is old and not inclined
> to
> > care enough to have the accounts taken down.
> > However once he disowned the accounts, the feud
> > was essentially over.
> >
> > Oh, and enjoy your cum you four-eyed fatass
> > pedophile faggot...
>
>
> You see William everywhere. Your obsessed.
> You want his stunted nub in your ass
> Fucking faggot

No, his stunted stub 6 feet under, with the rest of his worthless flesh. Fuck that pedo faggot.

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Re: eesh's case against chuck hoffman DISMISSED
Posted by: chuck's real crime ()
Date: June 01, 2019 03:24AM

He always supports meade's livestreams.

Never offers necessary critique.

This pisses eesh off.

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