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GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: GM is the new Sears ()
Date: December 31, 2018 10:35AM

The Chevy Volt, Cruze, Impala, Cadillac CT6, STS and Buick Lacrosse are all being discontuied. The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer but that never worked out for them.

http://fortune.com/2018/11/26/gm-discontinue-car-models-chevrolet-volt-cruze-impala-buick-lacrosse-cadillac-xts-ct6/

GM is starting to circle the drain. Maybe someone who knows how to build decent vehicles will buy them out.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: what gives ()
Date: December 31, 2018 11:21AM

Love to blame GM on MAGA but they are shit vehicles. I suppose they would have been considered reliable in the 1970's but cars built today need a 10 year 140k min life cycle. GM's break down out of the gate.

That said Trump promised this would not happen on his watch. GOP has had complete and total control of everything for 2 years and they were handed an economy where not one manufacturer was shuttering plants. So what gives?

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: ...BENGHAZI!!! ()
Date: December 31, 2018 11:32AM

...but obama has a privacy wall around his DC residence!!!

...but emails

...BENGHAZI!!!

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Dodge ram ()
Date: December 31, 2018 12:25PM

GM is the new Sears Wrote:
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> The Chevy Volt, Cruze, Impala, Cadillac CT6, STS
> and Buick Lacrosse are all being discontuied. The
> Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer but that
> never worked out for them.
>
> http://fortune.com/2018/11/26/gm-discontinue-car-
> models-chevrolet-volt-cruze-impala-buick-lacrosse-
> cadillac-xts-ct6/
>
> GM is starting to circle the drain. Maybe someone
> who knows how to build decent vehicles will buy
> them out.


Kind of like DaimlerChrysler? Chrysler still can't build a decent vehicle.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: sad to say ()
Date: December 31, 2018 12:47PM

Dodge ram Wrote:
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> Chrysler still can't
> build a decent vehicle.


They could, it's just not as profitable to do that. So they'll continue to churn out cars made of cheap unreliable parts until they're out of business and the major investors cash out. If ya want quality, buy a Toyota

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: MercB ()
Date: December 31, 2018 12:59PM

Dodge ram Wrote:
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> GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Chevy Volt, Cruze, Impala, Cadillac CT6,
> STS
> > and Buick Lacrosse are all being discontuied.
> The
> > Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer but
> that
> > never worked out for them.
> >
> >
> http://fortune.com/2018/11/26/gm-discontinue-car-
> >
> models-chevrolet-volt-cruze-impala-buick-lacrosse-
>
> > cadillac-xts-ct6/
> >
> > GM is starting to circle the drain. Maybe
> someone
> > who knows how to build decent vehicles will buy
> > them out.
>
>
> Kind of like DaimlerChrysler? Chrysler still can't
> build a decent vehicle.

e350 is a phenomenal vehicle

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: road dawg ()
Date: December 31, 2018 01:00PM

sad to say Wrote:
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> Dodge ram Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Chrysler still can't
> > build a decent vehicle.
>
>
> They could, it's just not as profitable to do
> that. So they'll continue to churn out cars made
> of cheap unreliable parts until they're out of
> business and the major investors cash out. If ya
> want quality, buy a Toyota


I have a Camry that I bought used and it is reliable, it is our beater, backup car. When you pull the door shut it sounds like someone just dropped a couple empty beer cans on the ground. When I pull the door shut on my Chevy Impala I hear a solid thud. Seems like the Toyota is a lightweight piece of crap but it never needs anything other than brakes and tires. The Chevy has some sort of problem every 10 to 12 thousand miles.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: son of a didly ()
Date: December 31, 2018 01:10PM

road dawg Wrote:
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> sad to say Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dodge ram Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Chrysler still can't
> > > build a decent vehicle.
> >
> >
> > They could, it's just not as profitable to do
> > that. So they'll continue to churn out cars
> made
> > of cheap unreliable parts until they're out of
> > business and the major investors cash out. If
> ya
> > want quality, buy a Toyota
>
>
> I have a Camry that I bought used and it is
> reliable, it is our beater, backup car. When you
> pull the door shut it sounds like someone just
> dropped a couple empty beer cans on the ground.
> When I pull the door shut on my Chevy Impala I
> hear a solid thud. Seems like the Toyota is a
> lightweight piece of crap but it never needs
> anything other than brakes and tires. The Chevy
> has some sort of problem every 10 to 12 thousand
> miles.


Toyota is the best made vehicle for reliability - I still cannot bring myself to drive one due to the 'beer can' fit and finish. I stick with what I know how to repair Volvo and Mercedes. They drive well and have solid construction - close the door and it sounds right.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: sad to say ()
Date: December 31, 2018 01:10PM

road dawg Wrote:
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> I have a Camry that I bought used and it is
> reliable, it is our beater, backup car. When you
> pull the door shut it sounds like someone just
> dropped a couple empty beer cans on the ground.
> When I pull the door shut on my Chevy Impala I
> hear a solid thud. Seems like the Toyota is a
> lightweight piece of crap but it never needs
> anything other than brakes and tires. The Chevy
> has some sort of problem every 10 to 12 thousand
> miles.

Yeah older cars will start to creak & rattle, stuff that's not worth figuring out and fixing, but change the oil regularly in that Toyota and replace the transmission fluid every 60,000, it'll run for 300 thousand miles or more.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: maga for sure ()
Date: December 31, 2018 05:58PM

Plants Closing? I thought only Donald Trump could fix this and it would be 'so easy.'


What happened?

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: killing Obama's legacy ()
Date: December 31, 2018 06:02PM

This is what trump meant by 'winning'.

Oh well, getting the MidWest vote was only going to be a one time thing anyhow......

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Farris Mueller ()
Date: December 31, 2018 06:10PM

GM is the new Sears Wrote:
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> The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer but that
> never worked out for them.
>

How was that? The Cruze is more along the lines of a Corolla and the Malibu might be a better car to compete with the Camry.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Jeep lover ()
Date: December 31, 2018 06:38PM

road dawg Wrote:
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> sad to say Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dodge ram Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Chrysler still can't
> > > build a decent vehicle.
> >
> >
> > They could, it's just not as profitable to do
> > that. So they'll continue to churn out cars
> made
> > of cheap unreliable parts until they're out of
> > business and the major investors cash out. If
> ya
> > want quality, buy a Toyota
>
>
> I have a Camry that I bought used and it is
> reliable, it is our beater, backup car. When you
> pull the door shut it sounds like someone just
> dropped a couple empty beer cans on the ground.
> When I pull the door shut on my Chevy Impala I
> hear a solid thud. Seems like the Toyota is a
> lightweight piece of crap but it never needs
> anything other than brakes and tires. The Chevy
> has some sort of problem every 10 to 12 thousand
> miles.




I don't doubt that for a minute. I've tried small import Suv's in the past. Honda Pilot, Suzuki samurai, and Honda rav4. And all 3 of those were so cheaply built they literally created the term, "Disposable cars". I can't believe I kept trying imports but I realized finally that Japanese car cheaply built piece of shits.

I'm so happy I went with a man's vehicle... JEEP

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: market mark ()
Date: January 01, 2019 05:26AM

One of the few things Obama did wrong was bail out GM. If a company can't make it on it's own it should be bought out or it should go under, thats the way it is supposed to work in a free country. GM simply can't compete anymore.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: GM retirees got fucked ()
Date: January 01, 2019 07:52AM

market mark Wrote:
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> One of the few things Obama did wrong was bail out
> GM. If a company can't make it on it's own it
> should be bought out or it should go under, thats
> the way it is supposed to work in a free country.
> GM simply can't compete anymore.


He* didn't just bail it out. He fucked over GM's stock and bond holders by devaluing their holdings by 75% AND made them go to the back of the line in bankruptcy proceedings. And he cut off GM dealerships that wer

*He doesn't mean Obama personally did this, he just appointed democrat apparatchiks who did it with his typical hands-off way of doing shit.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: GM bondholders got screwed ()
Date: January 01, 2019 07:59AM

GM retirees got fucked Wrote:
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> market mark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > One of the few things Obama did wrong was bail
> out
> > GM. If a company can't make it on it's own it
> > should be bought out or it should go under,
> thats
> > the way it is supposed to work in a free
> country.
> > GM simply can't compete anymore.
>
>
> He* didn't just bail it out. He fucked over GM's
> stock and bond holders by devaluing their holdings
> by 75% AND made them go to the back of the line in
> bankruptcy proceedings. And he cut off GM
> dealerships that wer
>
> *He doesn't mean Obama personally did this, he
> just appointed democrat apparatchiks who did it
> with his typical hands-off way of doing shit.

My dad owned GM corporate bonds. Yeah, Obama fucked over 300+ years of the corporate debt structure seniority pyramid. Just like a 3rd world dictator. What a faggot negro.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: good riddens ()
Date: January 01, 2019 08:02AM

GM retirees got fucked Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> market mark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > One of the few things Obama did wrong was bail
> out
> > GM. If a company can't make it on it's own it
> > should be bought out or it should go under,
> thats
> > the way it is supposed to work in a free
> country.
> > GM simply can't compete anymore.
>
>
> He* didn't just bail it out. He fucked over GM's
> stock and bond holders by devaluing their holdings
> by 75% AND made them go to the back of the line in
> bankruptcy proceedings. And he cut off GM
> dealerships that wer
>
> *He doesn't mean Obama personally did this, he
> just appointed democrat apparatchiks who did it
> with his typical hands-off way of doing shit.


GM is a shitty company that builds low quality products and hires low quality people. This is why they don't make a profit most of the time. GM employees and retirees deserve to get fucked because they are terrible at what they do for a living.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Terri Dove ()
Date: January 01, 2019 11:53AM

Farris Mueller Wrote:
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> GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer
> but that
> > never worked out for them.
> >
>
> How was that? The Cruze is more along the lines of
> a Corolla and the Malibu might be a better car to
> compete with the Camry.




Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a Malibu?

I've been inside of both cars and the Malibu is far superior in interior fit, design, dash layout and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the Chevy has actual style and class, while the interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply made with plastic and slapped together. Rattles and squeaks abound.

I wish the japs could built a vehicle that wasn't pure overrated shit.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Automotive data analyst ()
Date: January 01, 2019 12:24PM

Terri Dove Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Farris Mueller Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer
> > but that
> > > never worked out for them.
> > >
> >
> > How was that? The Cruze is more along the lines
> of
> > a Corolla and the Malibu might be a better car
> to
> > compete with the Camry.
>
>
>
>
> Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a Malibu?
>
> I've been inside of both cars and the Malibu is
> far superior in interior fit, design, dash layout
> and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the Chevy
> has actual style and class, while the
> interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply made
> with plastic and slapped together. Rattles and
> squeaks abound.
>
> I wish the japs could built a vehicle that wasn't
> pure overrated shit.


Yeah, it's hard to believe that GM is struggling so bad and Toyota is the richest and most successful automotive company in the world.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2. ()
Date: January 01, 2019 02:02PM

I swore off imports years ago because of all the recall and reliability issues I was having. It all started with the toyota rust issues. It was unbelievable. This happened even with my car undercoated. Luckily I was able to pass the problem on to the next sucker before the paint exploded with rust holes.


Then, I bought a Honda thinking it would be better... NOT. The engine starting smoking and burning oil. Honda was involved in a major lawsuit and refused to acknowledge this clusterfuck. My Honda literally looked like a diesel vehicle coming up the road. It was good for insect control tho. That was one good thing about it.


I'm so glad I started driving domestic cars and trucks.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: hitlermobile ()
Date: January 01, 2019 03:16PM

I have had the best luck with VW's.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: pelar1 ()
Date: January 02, 2019 05:22AM

Automotive data analyst Wrote:
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> Terri Dove Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Farris Mueller Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry
> killer
> > > but that
> > > > never worked out for them.
> > > >
> > >
> > > How was that? The Cruze is more along the
> lines
> > of
> > > a Corolla and the Malibu might be a better
> car
> > to
> > > compete with the Camry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a Malibu?
> >
> > I've been inside of both cars and the Malibu is
> > far superior in interior fit, design, dash
> layout
> > and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the
> Chevy
> > has actual style and class, while the
> > interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply made
> > with plastic and slapped together. Rattles and
> > squeaks abound.
> >
> > I wish the japs could built a vehicle that
> wasn't
> > pure overrated shit.
>
>
> Yeah, it's hard to believe that GM is struggling
> so bad and Toyota is the richest and most
> successful automotive company in the world.


Toyota does not have the UAW dragging it down.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: I Have ()
Date: January 02, 2019 06:12AM

Terri Dove Wrote:
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>
> Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a Malibu?
>
> I've been inside of both cars and the Malibu is
> far superior in interior fit, design, dash layout
> and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the Chevy
> has actual style and class, while the
> interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply made
> with plastic and slapped together. Rattles and
> squeaks abound.
>
> I wish the japs could built a vehicle that wasn't
> pure overrated shit.

Yes, I've tried both cars. You are correct about "basic-ness" of a Camry. The point was that it was noted that the Cruze was to compete with the Camry. The Cruze is nearly 9" shorter than the Camry and also has a 5" shorter wheelbase. I don't think the Cruze was designed to compete with the Camry, but rather the Corolla. The wheelbase, length, etc. of the Corolla and Cruze are much closer than that of the Camry vs. Cruze.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: wenkm ()
Date: January 02, 2019 07:12AM

pelar1 Wrote:
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> Toyota does not have the UAW dragging it down.

Bingo pingo.

They guy that bought the Jeep, please post back when the thing has 75k miles on it. Jeeps are the biggest pieces of shit I have ever ridden in.....and that's saying something.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Stir Crazy ()
Date: January 02, 2019 09:23AM

pelar1 Wrote:
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> Automotive data analyst Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Terri Dove Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Farris Mueller Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry
> > killer
> > > > but that
> > > > > never worked out for them.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > How was that? The Cruze is more along the
> > lines
> > > of
> > > > a Corolla and the Malibu might be a better
> > car
> > > to
> > > > compete with the Camry.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a Malibu?
>
> > >
> > > I've been inside of both cars and the Malibu
> is
> > > far superior in interior fit, design, dash
> > layout
> > > and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the
> > Chevy
> > > has actual style and class, while the
> > > interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply
> made
> > > with plastic and slapped together. Rattles
> and
> > > squeaks abound.
> > >
> > > I wish the japs could built a vehicle that
> > wasn't
> > > pure overrated shit.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it's hard to believe that GM is
> struggling
> > so bad and Toyota is the richest and most
> > successful automotive company in the world.
>
>
> Toyota does not have the UAW dragging it down.





The auto Union has the blessing of the democratic party. So yes, anything that has uaw attached to it is poison. And the sooner both of those cursed entities are erased, the better.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: UAW retired ()
Date: January 02, 2019 04:33PM

I hope GM goes under.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Date: January 02, 2019 06:11PM

UAW retired Wrote:
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> I hope GM goes under.

Me, too. They screwed over customers for decades. Karma is a bitch.

GM was all I owned for a number of years when I first started driving. Mostly Chevies. Junk after junk after junk.

I would never buy another GM vehicle. All I own now are Toyotas and I am so happy with them - and especially happy not to be on a first name basis with anyone at the dealer service center.

Making America Great Again! Imprison Trump for Lying about the Wall.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: fonda honda ()
Date: January 02, 2019 08:07PM

After that cover up of the deadly ignition switch problem GM lost a couple million customers.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: horatio b ()
Date: January 05, 2019 03:12PM

Fuck GM and their shitty vehicles. They need to go under.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Sweet ice tea ()
Date: January 05, 2019 04:50PM

Stir Crazy Wrote:
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> pelar1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Automotive data analyst Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Terri Dove Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Farris Mueller Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > GM is the new Sears Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > The Cruze was supposed to be the Camry
> > > killer
> > > > > but that
> > > > > > never worked out for them.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How was that? The Cruze is more along the
> > > lines
> > > > of
> > > > > a Corolla and the Malibu might be a
> better
> > > car
> > > > to
> > > > > compete with the Camry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lol. Did you just compare a Camry to a
> Malibu?
> >
> > > >
> > > > I've been inside of both cars and the
> Malibu
> > is
> > > > far superior in interior fit, design, dash
> > > layout
> > > > and ease/accessibility. The exterior of the
> > > Chevy
> > > > has actual style and class, while the
> > > > interior/exterior of the camry is cheaply
> > made
> > > > with plastic and slapped together. Rattles
> > and
> > > > squeaks abound.
> > > >
> > > > I wish the japs could built a vehicle that
> > > wasn't
> > > > pure overrated shit.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, it's hard to believe that GM is
> > struggling
> > > so bad and Toyota is the richest and most
> > > successful automotive company in the world.
> >
> >
> > Toyota does not have the UAW dragging it down.
>
>
>
>
>
> The auto Union has the blessing of the democratic
> party. So yes, anything that has uaw attached to
> it is poison. And the sooner both of those cursed
> entities are erased, the better.





At least a Malibu has class and style, and is a man's vehicle. Anytime I see a 'man' driving a toyota it makes me laugh.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Beach bum ()
Date: January 05, 2019 05:00PM

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Good luck with all that rust.



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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: horatio b ()
Date: January 05, 2019 05:36PM

GM to Pay $900 Million For Faulty Ignition Switch Cover-up

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/gm-pay-900-million-faulty-ignition-switch-cover/


124 deaths and 274 injuries were linked to the switch that cost about $1 for GM to replace.

Fuck GM.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Date: January 05, 2019 07:31PM

The largest automotive recall in history has just been issued...

Guess who's at fault? That's right. More exploding airbags :-)


FUCK JAPAN.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-recall-2019-1-million-221039809.html

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: can't compete with Japan ()
Date: January 05, 2019 07:49PM

The japanese simply make more desirable cars.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Japanese shrapnel in your eyes ()
Date: January 05, 2019 09:00PM

Answerer of questions Wrote:
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> The largest automotive recall in history has just
> been issued...
>
> Guess who's at fault? That's right. More exploding
> airbags :-)
>
>
> FUCK JAPAN.
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-recall-2019-1-
> million-221039809.html





Wow. As if the body rust issues and oil burning engines affecting Japanese vehicles weren't enough ;-)

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: GM victim ()
Date: January 06, 2019 07:54AM

GM used plenty of those Takata air bags in their vehicles. At least they did not try to cover up the problem this time like they did with those ignition switches where they murdered 121 people. It will be a great thing for America when GM goes under or sells out to Nissan.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: car consumer1 ()
Date: January 06, 2019 10:14AM

horatio b Wrote:
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> GM to Pay $900 Million For Faulty Ignition Switch
> Cover-up
>
> https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/gm-pay-9
> 00-million-faulty-ignition-switch-cover/
>
>
> 124 deaths and 274 injuries were linked to the
> switch that cost about $1 for GM to replace.
>
> Fuck GM.


Those GM executives should have gotten prison time for trying to cover up that problem that killed those people.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Honda shrapnel victims ()
Date: January 06, 2019 11:22AM

Beach bum Wrote:
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> .
> Good luck with all that rust.
>
>





With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls to deal with, consider yourself lucky. A co-worker of mine nearly lost her life with a takata exploding airbag. She was involved in a class action lawsuit against honda because they covered it up. I'll never drive an import again.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Toyota is the way to go ()
Date: January 06, 2019 11:49AM

Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
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> With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls to
> deal with, consider yourself lucky. A co-worker of
> mine nearly lost her life with a takata exploding
> airbag. She was involved in a class action lawsuit
> against honda because they covered it up. I'll
> never drive an import again.


Those damn imports and their airbags. lol.....

https://www.consumerreports.org/airbags/takata-airbag-recall-expands-to-include-more-ford-lincoln-mercury-vehicles/

And GM asked that they be exempt from any recalls because they said their Takata airbags are different (CR and industry analysts say GM is lying).

https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/why-gm-won-t-recall-thousands-of-takata-air-bags

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: 997TC ()
Date: January 06, 2019 12:03PM

GM is the Obama of car companies. Total loser.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2. ()
Date: January 06, 2019 01:14PM

Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
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> Beach bum Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > .
> > Good luck with all that rust.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls to
> deal with, consider yourself lucky. A co-worker of
> mine nearly lost her life with a takata exploding
> airbag. She was involved in a class action lawsuit
> against honda because they covered it up. I'll
> never drive an import again.





True.


Japanese cars are complete shit.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: policy is policy ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:19PM

I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing. Thousands of people out of work and it is killing the entire town and sending their real estate values plummeting. It's not really their fault that the Cruze never became popular and is such a unreliable car. The plant is now down to one shift and will close completely by March 1st.
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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: policy is policy ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:24PM

So sad.
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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: My tacoma ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:26PM

It's sad that I had to trade in my toyota, but the rust was out of control to be honest. I had heard that Japanese quality was superior to American quality, but after the rust debacle toyota has, and their refusal to address the consumers, I gladly switched to an American truck.


Damn glad I did...



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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Japan bashing! LOL! ()
Date: January 06, 2019 02:32PM

Gerrymanderer2. Wrote:
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>
>
>
> Japanese cars are complete shit.


Fucking trumptard thinks it's still 1990!

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: where's Waldo? ()
Date: January 06, 2019 05:19PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> I swore off imports years ago because of all the
> recall and reliability issues I was having. It all
> started with the toyota rust issues. It was
> unbelievable. This happened even with my car
> undercoated. Luckily I was able to pass the
> problem on to the next sucker before the paint
> exploded with rust holes.
>
>
> Then, I bought a Honda thinking it would be
> better... NOT. The engine starting smoking and
> burning oil. Honda was involved in a major lawsuit
> and refused to acknowledge this clusterfuck. My
> Honda literally looked like a diesel vehicle
> coming up the road. It was good for insect control
> tho. That was one good thing about it.
>
>
> I'm so glad I started driving domestic cars and
> trucks.





It's ok bro. You live and learn!

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: val dean ()
Date: January 07, 2019 04:58AM

policy is policy Wrote:
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> I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio
> where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing. Thousands
> of people out of work and it is killing the entire
> town and sending their real estate values
> plummeting. It's not really their fault that the
> Cruze never became popular and is such a
> unreliable car. The plant is now down to one shift
> and will close completely by March 1st.


That is so sad. GM was a great company 20 years ago.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Carl Weiss ()
Date: January 07, 2019 09:16AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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>
>



> Japanese cars are complete shit.





I just got a notice in the mail for a takata airbag recall. This sucks

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: wombat 23 ()
Date: January 07, 2019 08:07PM

GM will be bought out by 2025. Probably by the Japs.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Toe jam driver ()
Date: January 07, 2019 11:02PM

.

On a quite night you can hear a toyota rust.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: quarter panel ()
Date: January 08, 2019 04:59AM

policy is policy Wrote:
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> I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio
> where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing. Thousands
> of people out of work and it is killing the entire
> town and sending their real estate values
> plummeting. It's not really their fault that the
> Cruze never became popular and is such a
> unreliable car. The plant is now down to one shift
> and will close completely by March 1st.


Hey, we live in a capitalist country. No need to feel sorry for those who cannot perform and cannot compete. They build extremely low quality cars so they get shut down, that's the way it is supposed to work.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: no car is 'American' anymore ()
Date: January 08, 2019 08:41AM

Carl Weiss Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
>
>
>
> > Japanese cars are complete shit.
>
>
>
>
>
> I just got a notice in the mail for a takata
> airbag recall. This sucks

FORD Just added almost a million vehicles to the airbag recall.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Another GOP Bailout ()
Date: January 08, 2019 02:18PM

Of course GM will be asking Trump and taxpayers to bail them out again and Trump will do it.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Proud democrat ()
Date: January 08, 2019 06:30PM

Carl Weiss Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Japanese cars are complete shit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just got a notice in the mail for a takata
> > airbag recall. This sucks
>
> FORD Just added almost a million vehicles
> to the airbag recall.




Very sad. Japs just can't build anything that's worth a shit.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Cruze to Mexico ()
Date: January 09, 2019 04:43AM

The Chevy Cruze is only 45% American made. It is essentially a foreign car.

https://www.american.edu/kogod/research/autoindex/2018-autoindex.cfm

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Chris Holmes ()
Date: January 09, 2019 08:08AM

Toe jam driver Wrote:
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> .
>
> On a quite night you can hear a toyota rust.




I work as a Virginia safety auto inspector and toyotas definitely have the most rust out of any make of vehicles that I've seen. I've had customers get angry because I have to fail them over excessive rust.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: tuba lips. ()
Date: January 09, 2019 08:22PM

Cruze to Mexico Wrote:
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> The Chevy Cruze is only 45% American made. It is
> essentially a foreign car.
>
> https://www.american.edu/kogod/research/autoindex/
> 2018-autoindex.cfm


Only a fool would buy a new GM vehicle these days. America the great is fading away and very few people even give a shit.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Vickie K. ()
Date: January 09, 2019 11:33PM

Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
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> Beach bum Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > .
> > Good luck with all that rust.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls to
> deal with, consider yourself lucky. A co-worker of
> mine nearly lost her life with a takata exploding
> airbag. She was involved in a class action lawsuit
> against honda because they covered it up. I'll
> never drive an import again.




I got a recall notice last week. Only a fool would buy an import.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: 76 Nova ()
Date: January 10, 2019 08:42PM

quarter panel Wrote:
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> policy is policy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio
> > where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing.
> Thousands
> > of people out of work and it is killing the
> entire
> > town and sending their real estate values
> > plummeting. It's not really their fault that
> the
> > Cruze never became popular and is such a
> > unreliable car. The plant is now down to one
> shift
> > and will close completely by March 1st.
>
>
> Hey, we live in a capitalist country. No need to
> feel sorry for those who cannot perform and cannot
> compete. They build extremely low quality cars so
> they get shut down, that's the way it is supposed
> to work.

I have heard that because GM builds military vehicles that they will always be subsidized by the government. GM does not have to worry about shit because the taxpayers will always bail them out. Working for GM is just a form of welfare.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Soul brother #1 ()
Date: January 10, 2019 11:10PM

Toe jam driver Wrote:
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> .
>
>
On a quite night you can hear a toyota rust.







That's pretty fnny. I remember that saying in high school. Still rings true today.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: NS jack ()
Date: January 11, 2019 05:00PM

quarter panel Wrote:
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> policy is policy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio
> > where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing.
> Thousands
> > of people out of work and it is killing the
> entire
> > town and sending their real estate values
> > plummeting. It's not really their fault that
> the
> > Cruze never became popular and is such a
> > unreliable car. The plant is now down to one
> shift
> > and will close completely by March 1st.
>
>
> Hey, we live in a capitalist country. No need to
> feel sorry for those who cannot perform and cannot
> compete. They build extremely low quality cars so
> they get shut down, that's the way it is supposed
> to work.


The union is largely responsible for GM's failure.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Jimmy Lanoy ()
Date: January 11, 2019 11:49PM

Vickie K. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Beach bum Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > .
> > > Good luck with all that rust.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls to
> > deal with, consider yourself lucky. A co-worker
> of
> > mine nearly lost her life with a takata
> exploding
> > airbag. She was involved in a class action
> lawsuit
> > against honda because they covered it up. I'll
> > never drive an import again.
>
>
>
>
> I got a recall notice last week. Only a fool would
> buy an import.






Make sure you get it fixed immediately. This poor woman is living with a glass eye and was involved in a collective lawsuit against takata and honda because they tried to cover up the failure and obviously didn't care about people's lives.


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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: NS jack ()
Date: January 12, 2019 06:04AM

Jimmy Lanoy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vickie K. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Beach bum Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > .
> > > > Good luck with all that rust.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls
> to
> > > deal with, consider yourself lucky. A
> co-worker
> > of
> > > mine nearly lost her life with a takata
> > exploding
> > > airbag. She was involved in a class action
> > lawsuit
> > > against honda because they covered it up.
> I'll
> > > never drive an import again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I got a recall notice last week. Only a fool
> would
> > buy an import.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Make sure you get it fixed immediately. This poor
> woman is living with a glass eye and was involved
> in a collective lawsuit against takata and honda
> because they tried to cover up the failure and
> obviously didn't care about people's lives.
>
>
> .

Yes, those airbags have killed 15 people and the companies involved are doing their best to replace all those airbag inflators unlike GM who killed ten times as many people with their defective ignition switches and then tried to cover it up. That's why GM was fined 900 million dollars and is still facing multiple civil suits.
https://money.cnn.com/2015/09/17/news/companies/gm-recall-ignition-switch/index.html

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: industrial 1 ()
Date: January 12, 2019 11:23AM

quarter panel Wrote:
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> policy is policy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I feel sorry for the people of Lordstown Ohio
> > where the Chevy Cruze plant is closing.
> Thousands
> > of people out of work and it is killing the
> entire
> > town and sending their real estate values
> > plummeting. It's not really their fault that
> the
> > Cruze never became popular and is such a
> > unreliable car. The plant is now down to one
> shift
> > and will close completely by March 1st.
>
>
> Hey, we live in a capitalist country. No need to
> feel sorry for those who cannot perform and cannot
> compete. They build extremely low quality cars so
> they get shut down, that's the way it is supposed
> to work.


Yes and GM should have gone under years ago but the government bailed them out which is just extending the agony for this slowly dying company that makes poor quality vehicles.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: My tacoma ()
Date: January 12, 2019 11:36AM

Jimmy Lanoy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Vickie K. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Honda shrapnel victims Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Beach bum Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > .
> > > > Good luck with all that rust.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With Toyota you had rust and engine recalls
> to
> > > deal with, consider yourself lucky. A
> co-worker
> > of
> > > mine nearly lost her life with a takata
> > exploding
> > > airbag. She was involved in a class action
> > lawsuit
> > > against honda because they covered it up.
> I'll
> > > never drive an import again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I got a recall notice last week. Only a fool
> would
> > buy an import.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Make sure you get it fixed immediately. This poor
> woman is living with a glass eye and was involved
> in a collective lawsuit against takata and honda
> because they tried to cover up the failure and
> obviously didn't care about people's lives.
>
>
> .


No kidding. Honda could care less, much like takata doesn't care. They just want your money. As the largest recall in automotive history is unfolding right now, we will see how far the rabbit hole goes...


https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2019/ford-expands-takata-airbag-recalls-953000-vehicles.shtml

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: k1500 driver ()
Date: January 17, 2019 08:12AM

I hope GM can get this turned around but it is not looking good for them. Other than their trucks they really have nothing to offer.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: pedro1 ()
Date: January 17, 2019 09:38AM

GM has bad problem with paint peeling on work trucks. They no do anything about it. you see these trucks everywhere. Ford trucks no do this. I never buy GM again.
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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: I cant explain it to you ()
Date: January 17, 2019 10:25AM

Dont worry when Trump is elected he will fix all of this - no more closings he wont let it happen! He has a plan and only he can fix it!

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Metal Head ()
Date: January 17, 2019 11:02AM

pedro1 Wrote:
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> GM has bad problem with paint peeling on work
> trucks. They no do anything about it. you see
> these trucks everywhere. Ford trucks no do this. I
> never buy GM again.




That's not too bad and can be easily fixed with a paint job. Imagine having to deal with the toyota rust debacle...



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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Ford guy ()
Date: January 17, 2019 03:04PM

GM is the new Sears Wrote:
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> The Chevy Volt, Cruze, Impala, Cadillac CT6, STS
> and Buick Lacrosse are all being discontuied. The
> Cruze was supposed to be the Camry killer but that
> never worked out for them.
>
> http://fortune.com/2018/11/26/gm-discontinue-car-
> models-chevrolet-volt-cruze-impala-buick-lacrosse-
> cadillac-xts-ct6/
>
> GM is starting to circle the drain. Maybe someone
> who knows how to build decent vehicles will buy
> them out.


Yes, much like Sears GM has lost their way and companies like Mazda,Honda and Toyota are eating GM's lunch. Maybe they can turn it around. GM tried in the 90's with Saturn which was popular at first but ended up a huge failure. I would hate to see GM go under even though I am a Ford customer.

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Re: GM closing 5 plants and discontinuing 6 vehicles.
Posted by: Definitely not Gerry. ()
Date: January 17, 2019 11:26PM

Metal Head Wrote:
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> pedro1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > GM has bad problem with paint peeling on work
> > trucks. They no do anything about it. you see
> > these trucks everywhere. Ford trucks no do this.
> I
> > never buy GM again.
>
>
>
>
> That's not too bad and can be easily fixed with a
> paint job. Imagine having to deal with the toyota
> rust debacle...
>





Good luck with that one. Toyota hung their customers out to dry with their POS trucks.

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