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Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Waiting for the Show ()
Date: December 07, 2018 06:47PM

When do we get to watch James Alex Fields Jr. fry? Will it be televised live?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/us/charlottesville-james-alex-fields-court-appearance/index.html

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: How about this guy? ()
Date: December 07, 2018 06:54PM

Killed 8 in NYC with his car for Allah.

Why you giving the white boy all the attention?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/nyc-terror-attack-new-charges/index.html

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Self Defense ()
Date: December 07, 2018 07:08PM

The young man was under attack by terrorists and feared for his life. He was attacked by by a violent group of terrorists that we're attacking people participating in a legal and constitutional march. The rioters were illegally blocking streets and attacking Americans for exercising their constitutional rights. This man is a hero. I propose a statue of him be erected in the city of Charlottesville to remind Vote why we are the USA and not part of the UK.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Farris Mueller ()
Date: December 07, 2018 07:09PM

How about this guy? Wrote:
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> Killed 8 in NYC with his car for Allah.
>
> Why you giving the white boy all the attention?
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/nyc-terror-attac
> k-new-charges/index.html


Liberals don't consider terrorists who kill multiple people a thread. They're more focused on a single "nationalist" instead. Their priorities are up their ass, just like their heads.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: No he was a psycho ()
Date: December 07, 2018 07:16PM

Self Defense Wrote:
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> The young man was under attack by terrorists and
> feared for his life. He was attacked by by a
> violent group of terrorists that we're attacking
> people participating in a legal and constitutional
> march. The rioters were illegally blocking streets
> and attacking Americans for exercising their
> constitutional rights. This man is a hero. I
> propose a statue of him be erected in the city of
> Charlottesville to remind Vote why we are the USA
> and not part of the UK.

Don't start with that dumb shit, this guy needs to go to the gas chamber along with any Mudslime terrorist or cop killer. I can't stand commie libtards either, but you can't fucking run people over.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Self Defense ()
Date: December 07, 2018 07:26PM

No he was a psycho Wrote:
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> Self Defense Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The young man was under attack by terrorists
> and
> > feared for his life. He was attacked by by a
> > violent group of terrorists that we're
> attacking
> > people participating in a legal and
> constitutional
> > march. The rioters were illegally blocking
> streets
> > and attacking Americans for exercising their
> > constitutional rights. This man is a hero. I
> > propose a statue of him be erected in the city
> of
> > Charlottesville to remind Vote why we are the
> USA
> > and not part of the UK.
>
> Don't start with that dumb shit, this guy needs to
> go to the gas chamber along with any Mudslime
> terrorist or cop killer. I can't stand commie
> libtards either, but you can't fucking run people
> over.


He was attacked by terrorists. The terrorists were there illegally blocking the street and only there for the purpose of inciting violence. He acted in self defense. There isn't any other conclusion possible. How in the world is he guilty of protecting himself from violent terrorists who were out of control and attacking his vehicle with weapons?

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Not seeing this ()
Date: December 07, 2018 07:37PM

Self Defense Wrote:
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> No he was a psycho Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Self Defense Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The young man was under attack by terrorists
> > and
> > > feared for his life. He was attacked by by a
> > > violent group of terrorists that we're
> > attacking
> > > people participating in a legal and
> > constitutional
> > > march. The rioters were illegally blocking
> > streets
> > > and attacking Americans for exercising their
> > > constitutional rights. This man is a hero. I
> > > propose a statue of him be erected in the
> city
> > of
> > > Charlottesville to remind Vote why we are the
> > USA
> > > and not part of the UK.
> >
> > Don't start with that dumb shit, this guy needs
> to
> > go to the gas chamber along with any Mudslime
> > terrorist or cop killer. I can't stand commie
> > libtards either, but you can't fucking run
> people
> > over.
>
>
> He was attacked by terrorists. The terrorists were
> there illegally blocking the street and only there
> for the purpose of inciting violence. He acted in
> self defense. There isn't any other conclusion
> possible. How in the world is he guilty of
> protecting himself from violent terrorists who
> were out of control and attacking his vehicle with
> weapons?

Dude was posting meme videos of cars going through crowds a month before. I don't care for Antifa, but this jackoff makes them look like the good guys.

Intentional homicide, dude is schizo and on lots of anti-depressants. His wheelchair bound mother had to lock herself in the bathroom and call the cops after he started assaulting her.

Don't be a wanker and make a martyr out of this POS because you hate liberals.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: they all need to get a grip ()
Date: December 07, 2018 08:05PM

Self Defense Wrote:
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> The young man was under attack by terrorists and
> feared for his life.

Yeah well the average trumptard feels the same way when he's paying his taxes or being waited on at Burger King. It's no excuse for killing people.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Fox News ()
Date: December 07, 2018 08:42PM

He will be pardoned by Trump.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Libtarded ()
Date: December 07, 2018 08:43PM

Fox News Wrote:
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> He will be pardoned by Trump.

^ Wrong.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Gas Chambers ()
Date: December 07, 2018 08:50PM

Send the racist to the gas chamber!

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Senior Advisor James Alex Fields ()
Date: December 07, 2018 09:01PM

Fox News Wrote:
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> He will be pardoned by Trump.


Pardoned? He'll be appointed to a senior advisor position in the White House!

THINK BIG THINGS LIKE TRUMP DOES!!!

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: would bang his mama ()
Date: December 07, 2018 09:05PM

Call me sick but nazi boys wheelchair bound mother is kind of sexy in a helpless way.
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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Pc retardz. ()
Date: December 07, 2018 09:07PM

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: NoHit ()
Date: December 07, 2018 09:08PM

That fat girl died of a heart attack! The media created a fake narrative about what really happened in Charlottesville.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Kek ()
Date: December 07, 2018 09:16PM

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Farris Mueller ()
Date: December 07, 2018 10:19PM

It's amazing how all the Liberals can apply so much focus on this savage individual who killed one person. Yet, they turn the blind eye on the 1,000,000 million abortions each year in the U.S.

Clearly, their priorities are up their own behinds - just like their heads are.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Fat coal burnin bitch ()
Date: December 07, 2018 11:13PM

Kek
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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 5thrgf ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:22AM


ON WHAT EVIDENCE? it is a murder trial. there's no evidence he planned murder. all indicators are that it was an accident that i can find.

please cite some URL listing pre-accident evidence that would suffice as "BEYOND A DOUBT" EVIDENCE for a murder trial


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 4trffdf ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:24AM

she's a heffer

a young boy in a college town would psychopathically hope his car didn't get smeared with her

if my guesses are correct

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 5ythytnfgdgf ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:28AM

We never heard from big media how Ms/Mrs Heyer died

it could have been from abdominal shock (we see what looks like it will become a bruise

HOWEVER %50 CHANCE it was that in her falling back her head hid the pavement. her eyes are not open. she was not the only one bumped off the car. head hitting pavement could cause quick fainting and eye closures. (but perhaps so could abdominal shock)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 3kumt ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:30AM


it looks like she was still was still alive when paramedics arrived

her mother should look in to whether she got to the hospital within 1/2 hr and was still alive upon arrival

if my guess is correct the paramedics are all lakey dems who may have killed her with improper field treatment


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: y65rtgeferd ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:32AM

with fields in jail for murder, the AUTO INSURANCE COMPANIES are free to skip court ? ...

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Mistrial ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:34AM

Why is the press talking to the jurors?

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 65yhgfd ()
Date: December 08, 2018 11:34AM

complex litigation is, usually, about playing chess with opinions insuring they are not used in a reverse engineering manner to allow the rich to evade court (it's the rich who can hire such people to evade a verdict)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 7kh9w ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:04PM

my unedukated medical opinion is this.

if i were the doctor and got a phone call: car strike in crosswalk, abdominal mark, possible head hit. if she wasn't breathing: i would not suggest chest heaves (that would cause undo stress even put her into more shock), if they told me her heart stopped i'd still say treat her on the way and stay on the phone for further diagnosis. i'd expect they'd presume shock if a doctor couldn't be contakted.

i would demand immediate transport and treatment en-route in the ambulance (for breathing and heart only if heart was not functioning only if patient was not breathing, for shock with adrenaline only after diagnosis of cause of shock - which is differential in nature)

i would assume the 2nd concern (beyond heart / breathing) would be of inflammation - of organs and head (ie, ice pak would be good to have on hand in the ambulance)

(i saw the woman's leg move, it could be by gravity or some other reason than reaction to treatment)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: bpekf ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:10PM

mr differential:

she would be "expected to be in hypotension: but an organ damage (ie bruise) issue could cause hypertension. giving a dopamine treatment during this would be counter-indicated: doctors like to run blood (quick) lab tests if they can before issuing reactive medications used for stabilizing (the very man) health data to move from short term to mid-term treatment.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: jimmy says ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:12PM

is that a fact?

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: tgx6t ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:18PM

the autopsy head lists ONLY "bumper injury to TORSO", not upper or lower, NOT BROKEN RIBS, NOTHING REALLY

if i were to grade the (i hope it's a cover sheet) as a full autopsy i'd give it an F and prosecute the coroner for fraud

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
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Date: December 08, 2018 12:19PM


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: fxuvu ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:21PM

Bailey Sanisha signed off on it.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: meewl ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:26PM

https://www.dailyprogress.com/defense-objection/pdf_1271d1d6-f7d8-11e8-8512-b72b05f465a3.html

there is no judges except those in the Neuremberg trial (and joiners) that is allowed to submit pictures of hitler to the Jury
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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: bylnp ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:27PM

so far to my investigation: there was no evidence of nazzi nor neo-nazzi apparel in the boy's history

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: No justice ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:28PM

Another innocent man going to prison for a crime he did not commit.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: xcdwx ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:29PM

at the Jail (magistrates office) Fields expressed his friends or certainly his family were going to bail him out and defend him

they didn't. i know this feeling exactly myself.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: dwhnh ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:30PM

if your a young male who assumes your family or friends will help you if your stung on charges by a County ... thing again is my advice

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 3ckcx ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:31PM

little red riding hood

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: not your usual commenter ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:36PM

"get her breathing and if she doesn't breath don't bother bringing her - just stuff everyone else who is breathing in the one ambulance you got"

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: wheelchair victim admits ... ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:42PM

admits she moved toward the initial accident (for whatever reason) not away

"Not struck initially, she moved toward the crash when Fields started backing up the vehicle. Bowie said she was slammed into another vehicle and briefly lost consciousness."

(i've not seen a photo of the "reverse" sequence or what other car was nearby or if it was moving)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: uewjc ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:44PM

"he testified that he heard a car engine revving and tires screeching behind him. He said he turned around to see the Challenger accelerate into the group of counter-protesters"

is this is counter to evidence ?

i didn't see screeching tires in video (video had no sound)

the person hit was not a "counter protester", so that part of the statement is forwardly untrue - that "everyone is a counter protestor" is a psychopath comment

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: vxmpj ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:45PM

"Defense attorney Denise Lunsford pointed to one of his photos and asked Kelly if he saw brake lights. Kelly said he did, but he had not noticed them before the vehicle collided with the crowd."

he did, he did not, he's ... a LIA

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ucvgt ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:51PM

https://www.dailyprogress.com/news/fields_trial/day-photographer-describes-car-attack-as-victims-continue-to-recount/article_bb1182a0-f4c7-11e8-a9d5-5bb1df14b79b.html

apparently some injuries happened when the suspect fled (for a 21 yr old in such danger, even if an accident, shock and flight would be an expected but civilly punished action, punished not too harshly)

reports are he meandered to a quiet neighborhood

i wonder if this style and mode of flight fits that of a pedestrian hit and run or of a terrorist hit and run? the speed. the destination.

it makes a difference.

WHAT MAKES A TON OF DIFFERENCE is there were likely protesters willing to beat up him and his car possibly kill him on scene - or even shoot him. it was an UNRULY mob (already told to go home) that had already "taunted him". if he were "normal" would flee to a safe area and decide what to do. if he were very brave he'd stay at the scene and help any victims - despite there being an unruly mob (and despite everyone knows you can be sued for not letting EMT do all the saving)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 4hu34 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:53PM

it's apparently true to a casual reader that person injured behind the car had VERY UN-WISELY flocked behind the car WHILE THE ACCIDENT WAS STILL (in progress)

something no police officer would have allowed

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Trump's Scumbags and Rejects ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:54PM

It's so funny to see these trumptards making excuses, defending a murderer, blaming the doctors, the paramedics, the protesters, holding everyone else accountable except the neo-nazi behind the wheel. You're nothing but a bunch of pathetic sociopaths. Grade-Z losers with no past and no future, exactly the kind of people we'd expect to support Donald Trump.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: eggshell skull doctrine ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:56PM

the law states 'you take your victim as you find them' (also known as the 'eggshell skull doctrine') In other words if you attack someone with hypertension and or a weak heart and they have a heart attack and die you are tried for the crime of manslaughter or murder. Certainly hitting someone with your car, on purpose, qualifies for the application of this doctrine.

Dont want to be tried for murder because you intentionally ran someone over? Dont run people over.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: making stuff up ()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:58PM

if fields noticed a large young angry black male behind his car "blocking him" and the man aggressively hit the trunk with his hand - the natural if not correct action would be: put he car in reverse and get the fuck out of there

democrat protestors are proven (historically) violent and proven "mob justice" initiators

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: dkjvf ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:02PM

Day 7 was about the police eves dropping on fields talking to his mom

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS ALLOWED (Casey Anthony POLICE DID THIS, FAMOUSLY)

if a Murder Trial Defendant's speech to his lawyer is protected (except by the lawyer btw, who must report expressions of guilt - that's the BAR definition)

why would not a defendant's speech to a "supportive family" (who are not also suspects) be admitted in trial?

the judge is a criminal with an insurance company payout and an angry mob all needing a "fall guy". james is the perfect fucking fall guy. who else but some spoiled white boy, in a nasty democrat town?

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: t54thgefe ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:04PM

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"NANCY GRACE - YOU MAD BRO ?"

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: biggest cowards ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:05PM

natural if you are a criminal. Most of us dont instinctively think to murder unarmed people touching or even banging on our car. However, your statement is an excellent example of Trump Supporter state of mind. You and other Trump supporters are literally scared to death of things normal people consider trivial. Barefoot women and children seeking legal asylum in the USA become 'an invasion' that we have to send the army to repel. You people are the biggest cowards in the history of cowards.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: cj9dx ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:05PM

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"I think that was my cigar."

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Date: December 08, 2018 01:06PM

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Date: December 08, 2018 01:10PM

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ynxcn ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:15PM

The autopsy also included a toxicology report, which is standard. The report showed Heyer tested positive for cannabanoids, which Bowers said had nothing to with her death.

WELL NO. THEY WERE TOLD TO GO HOME AND DIDN'T - THEY WERE MOBBING AND PEOPLE ON POT TEND TO EVADE POLICE RATHER THAN OBEY. THEY ALSO MIGHT flood a 1/2 block of a road and even taunt or threaten drivers

(the accident was not at a crosswalk - the stop sign is a hundred feet away and i see no traffic signals anywhere. the protesters were clearly unruly and were not crossing at cross walks)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: vw4ul ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:17PM

He described Heyer’s initial coloring as “salvageable patient color,” and assisted with chest compressions.

With her injuries, Barrell testified, Heyer stood a zero percent chance of survival outside of a hospital.

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testimony indicating the leg movement may have been real

also that immediate transportation would be indicated: not stabilization on the road

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 4ve9j ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:18PM

heyer was also high on marajuana (an alcohol too maybe?)

it's well known people who (have been drinking) do not survive as well (certainly not the same) in survival situations

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: uflbv ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:21PM

Ms. Baker was hit in the legs and "launched upward"

her legs were broken as "clean break" (not fracture also called break)

we know brakes were pressed - we know police state 28 mph (25 mph liars) before accident however we DO NOT KNOW THE SPEED INCLUDING BRAKING, unfortunately

enough to brake a leg could be ? 5 mph. enough to vault people up ? i'm unsure. vehicle weight and power effect such things. the physics of that is dodgey because the inclination of the car pushing surfaces are not knowable (that's fact)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: edukc ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:26PM

Critzer pulled Fields over after he had driven away from the attack. Critzer had followed Fields from Market Street to the intersection of Monticello and Blenheim avenues, noting that they passed four signs for Interstate 64 along the way. As he stopped Fields on Monticello Avenue, Critzer said Fields drove away again before he stopped a couple hundred yards away, where Critzer ultimately detained him.

"DROVE AWAY AGAIN 100 FT" sounds like parking a car

prejucicial language was used by police

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Date: December 08, 2018 01:26PM


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: gpvev ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:28PM

(in a quiet area, approached by police signaling him, in great dis-array he gave himself up. it sounds like.)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: velpy ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:31PM

lifting persons can be by power and elevation of inclines of the car rather than by speed of the car

the total elevation of lift would be incline movement (the sliding up no friction factor mentioned) plus energy added by upward push (against gravity real time phy) MINUS the height of the person perhaps jumping out of the way had they the chance

that's the problem with "prosecution's speed estimations" which where FORWARDLY DONE USING non-certified COMPUTER SIMULATION

IT'S TOTALLY A GUESS unless you've read ALL the "source code"

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: professional parker ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:33PM

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Yeah exactly. Every time I park my car I drive at least 100 feet while doing so. These cops must have manure for their brains.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: BRAKING NEWS 28 mph is a lie ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:38PM

"Thomas said he calculated that Fields accelerated to a top speed of about 28 mph before decelerating to 23 mph later on Fourth Street. " (state police testimony)

THE PROSECUTION JILTED THE JURY with many statements of 28 mph then retraced with a passign 23 mph statement only once.

still the speed after breaking (and when that occured) wasn't even in the argument


I damn well expect the lawyers nearly came to punches over when the brake was pressed (before, after) and one nearly got thrown off the case due to it, and what the speed was during the brake press and due to brake press

I expect nothing less.

INSTEAD FIELD'S LAWYERS MERELY MADE A PASSING QUESTION TO ONE BIASED WITNESS IF HE SAW THE BRAKE PRESSED WHO'D previously noted no brake press - who flipped


i suspect the defense was composed of free government lawyers who threw the case

i also suspect these lawyers perhaps even eat lunch with prosecution occasionally. and they are employed by the same employer

such a conflict of interest MUST BE (it is not optional) stated in a federal court before proceedings begin


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: veefb ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:39PM

On Aug. 8, 2017, Fields texted his mother: “I got the weekend off, so I’ll be able to go to the rally.”

“Be Careful,” she responded on Aug. 10.

the defense exhuberently told his mother he wished to attend a college rally.

perhaps he was asking her for weed?

no. the intent is obvious: he wasn't hiding anything at that time.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: hwmpx ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:41PM

fields included a picture of Adolf Hitler saying "we aren't the ones who need being careful"

adolf hitler fell

the MOST PROBABLE interpretation of that, unless he and friends were known to worship adolf, is that hitler was bad and fell: and so would communist democrats

(that would make him anti-hitler and make a fool of prosecution)

or make a fool of defense if he were a "skin head" (i see no skin head tatoos - that's kid of "required" in those circles i'd guess)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: bmenb ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:42PM

At the magistrate’s office, Fields said he “felt like the people who were behind me” were coming for him.

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i said that 100 posts ago eforeb i saw it

the big black guy may well have been blocking the exit and may well have been aggressive

it was a mob

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: kumjm ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:43PM

Witnesses Sarah Bolstad and Hayden Calhoun said they had been with Fields before the crash, describing him as calm and tired and adding that he was not carrying any weapons or flags. Calhoun said a group of counter-protesters had yelled at their group from across the street at one point, but they did not respond.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: yd9xn ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:44PM

Data obtained from the Toyota Camry that Fields hit on Fourth Street showed it moved at 17.1 mph after it was struck. Thomas said it was unclear if that was the same speed Fields’ car had been going when it hit the Toyota.

i haven't seen news of this due to "bad media"

i assume it's after the car was put in reverse not before the scene began

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: tmjml ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:45PM

At that point, they met Fields and another man, identified as Josh Matthews, who said they should stick together because they could be "targets for violence."

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: tcmue ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:45PM

“We figured he wasn’t the same guy because he didn’t seem like the kind of guy who would do this,” she said.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: vnhut ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:47PM

to me witness testimony is all bullshit:

#1 no pre accident PROOF of planned murder

#2 no accident proof of criminal lack of care (where we allow "spooked driver" or attention taken by protesters. for that reason he should have gone slower - however other drivers drove at similar speeds - not a good example for the 21 yr old to follow)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: phtxm ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:49PM

Fields claimed he “didn’t know what to do,” and wasn’t sure what emotions he was feeling at the time he drove into the crowd.

(murderers often get subliminal emotion. they often break down in anger or tears when questioned correctly about the dead. but not immediately.)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: xld77 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:50PM

(police and invetigators look for "unusual emotional response", strong emotions that overshoot the question and topic)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ywumw ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:51PM


What about the lie detector?

I guess Hillary broke it last time she used it!


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: gkmvd ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:58PM

baez+and+casey.jpg

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: cyfg9 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 01:59PM


I damn well expect the lawyers nearly came to punches over when the brake was pressed (before, after) and one nearly got thrown off the case due to it, and what the speed was during the brake press and due to brake press

I expect nothing less.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: cyfg9 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:00PM

they did not - and speed and other factors were of only PASSING mention

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: correction ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:02PM

Day 9: Fields case now in jurors’ hands

SUMMARY: only says memes were first introduced to juring and jury decision began

https://www.dailyprogress.com/news/fields_trial/day-fields-case-now-in-jurors-hands/article_01d7b8c2-f977-11e8-87fa-0742391045a2.html

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: cj9dc ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:04PM

france-yellow-vest-protest-collage-getty

if the boy assumed he woudl be safe as charolottles ville seems to demand he would, HE'D BE F'ING STUPID

stupid is not the default legal state of mind

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: maybe not ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:05PM

This guy is guilty, literally tried and found guilty. If you look at the pictures its obvious he plowed into a crowd of people from a standstill. That is still illegal even for Trumptards.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: mhvj3 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:14PM

baez+and+casey.jpg

if it looked like an auto accident (distracted driver, brake pressed) and smelled like an accident (witnesses who talked to him not suspecting)


it SHOULD BE nearly impossible to prove otherwise, except with clear indication of pre-meditation*

of pre-medication we saw NO NEWS COVERAGE AT ALL except a weak Day 9 government allowed itself in prosecution favoring itself**


* not a 3 month Old post as a reaction to someone else's post. also i think those posts were done by others after similar incidents years ago (bad joke after terrorism meme) - i do believe there's evidence his post was not particularly unique. not clear evidence of a plan.

** usa has taken the policy of favoring prosecution to speak first, last, and other perks in trial: such as showing the defendant in prison apparel to jury

In USA, whether or Not USA only: the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt"

if that were not the standard we could convict every Judge and Politician of murder

James is probably a political prisoner (and prisoner of insurers not wishing to $$pay), as far as I can yet see

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: Gimme a brake ()
Date: December 08, 2018 02:20PM

mhvj3 Wrote:
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>
> if it looked like an auto accident (distracted
> driver, brake pressed) and smelled like an
> accident (witnesses who talked to him not
> suspecting)
>
>
If I accelerate into a crowd of people, I'm sure I can find some people stupid enough to think it was an accident and I think I was just a political prisoner for being punished for it...

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 4grfd ()
Date: December 08, 2018 03:59PM

baez+and+casey.jpg

Denise was elected to serve as Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney in 2007. She's paid by Charlottesville and knows the prosecution no doubt. They would "stop hiring her" if she didn't flip cases to government's interests. That's how it works. It's happened to me more than once (not by her) and I can prove it.

it's a revolving door - she likely also moonlights in a private firm (that's how fairfax runs it all)


Jame's mom didn't get her son a good attorney: public defenders in VA flip the case to governemnt win. many accusations they do: and statistics are pretty clear about it being they do



this might be the John Hill representing James, "a good lawyer" (29 yr traffic lawyer and defense lawyer in land and injury cases) ... however a good lawyer in democrat land VA - if he has a history of traffic cases we next have to ask if he's ever been a public defender and case histories - no idea if it's even the right john hill (common name many lawyers are john hill). it could be a name bait and switch fooling those looking. dems do bait and switch i know they do.

http://www.poindexterhill.com/attorney-profiles

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ejwth ()
Date: December 08, 2018 04:03PM

the courtroom drawing suggests it may be the same Hill, however, i don't know if Hill is a trial attorney and appeared in court (goodness knows how many county attorneys got paid on this: something like a full year - which is not the worst compared to some other hot potatoes but ALLOT OF MONEY for allot of charlottesville legal people)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: xhgmn ()
Date: December 08, 2018 04:05PM

public defenders in flip cases to governemnt win should they be outlawed altogether? 60 Minutes in the 90's (when they had upmost respect still) did a great episode on this.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: yxmj3 ()
Date: December 08, 2018 04:08PM

baez+and+casey.jpg

i better go study i've been doign too much manual labor

John Hill may be an asterful traffic / property / injury lawyer (if that's even the right John) ...

BUT WHY WOULD YOU HIRE A TRAFFIC LAWYER FOR A MURDER TRIAL? you wouldn't.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: fngpv ()
Date: December 08, 2018 04:09PM

(you'd hire a death penalty lawyer - probably one from Ohio not VA)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ynejn ()
Date: December 09, 2018 06:54AM

James Alex Fields Jr., 21, of Maumee, Ohio, was charged in an indictment returned earlier today with:

one count of a hate crime act resulting in the death of Heather Heyer (18 U.S.C. § 249);

28 counts of hate crime acts causing bodily injury and involving an attempt to kill (18 U.S.C. § 249); and

one count of racially motivated violent interference with a federally protected activity (18 U.S.C. § 245(b)(2)), resulting in the death of Heather Heyer, for driving his car into a crowd of protestors on a downtown street in Charlottesville, Virginia.

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ALL ARE POLITICAL CHARGES, NONE ARE TRAFFIC CHARGES which ultimately cannot be "proven to be a motive for pre-medicated murder"

by the time verdict occurred only 10 charges remained

note there were no traffic charges

while some may consider it petty I would have charged fields with driving too fast (not speeding since posted signs are immaterial). why is because he's an adult and should have known with a crowd around to reduce his speed below the speed limit. i believe he could get jail for that lack of care alone. but not a murder charge. and not 20 years.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ynejn ()
Date: December 09, 2018 06:55AM

I DO NOT BELIEVE, however, he should be charge with even a single crime if it means insurers will not pay

it was an accident and insurers MUST pay or leave Virginia indefinitely

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: p4nj4 ()
Date: December 09, 2018 06:57AM

WHO ELSE MUST PAY is the students at the protest there only to hate white people who protest ILLEGAL immigration: THE COUNTY, COLLEGE, AND STUDENTS

They were drunk and dis-orderly providing a traffic situation James should not have been exposed to. They weren't using cross-walks. Police were not administering the situation.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: p9jyp ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:01AM

I've asked myself several times now, with no answer: why the hell is Charlotte's Ville in Virginia an attraction to a college boy in OHIO ?? There are (many) colleges closer to him.

I don't like ANY of the answers to that question.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: v47jc ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:08AM

“At the Department of Justice, we remain resolute that hateful ideologies will not have the last word.


Jeff Sessions was FIRED. For good reasons.


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: dcvty ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:09AM

I've never heard of NAACP niggers who listen to "rap" in jail for hate crimes.

That's a PROBLEM with me.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: d7thp ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:22AM

(1) age;
(2) education;
(3) vocational skills;
(4) mental and emotional condition to the extent that such condition mitigates the defendant’s culpability or to the extent that such condition is otherwise plainly relevant:

(5) physical condition, including drug dependence;
(6) previous employment record;
(7) family ties and responsibilities;
(8) community ties;
(9-11) are common sense and follow the crime

this isn't the FIRST TIME i've found errors in "wordpad generation edited legal code"

the error (that i mention) is that sentencing can include "vocational skill". nowhere in the History of Roman University Law does law allow punishment based upon one's skill. INFACT ROMAN UNIVERSITY LAW SPELLS OPPOSITELY thus also does the Constitution: that idiots are protected by tutelage of law not schemed out of their freedom by tricks in it.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: d7thp ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:23AM

the above (computer errors abound due to foreign language support) are the mandatory requirements for sentencing consideration

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: YALL GOAN LEARN!! ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:24AM

We allow know where this all starts, white Europeans coming to America. Then taking over the indians and getting guns. And ever since been brainwashing students at college that the white man is evil at a time when things were more savage...now look around the world and see what’s going, besides France...look at what’s going on, and yet...it’s the white man that’s still the evil savage.
If I had the write to make laws, one of the first would be...If any person or group protests, if u wear any clothing to hide your identity, and if u shit down or disrupt roadway or business, ur getting a big fine and jail time and if get assualted for interferring with any one that doesn’t want to hear your bullshit, that person will not be charged, and if u shit or block any roadway and get mowed done, they will not be charged!
It’s protesting not parading.

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 7pke4 ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:25AM

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/994

IT DOES NOT SAY ONE FUCKING THING ABOUT HATE SPEACH OR RACE HATING BEING ILLEGAL IN THE USA

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: 7pke4 ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:25AM

(democrats are citing it as USA's federal hate crime law. it ISN'T)

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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: ppwmw ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:27AM


And let me advise FFU legal followers this is how you prove the GOVERNMENT IS OVER-REACHING.

They will give false citations and when you read the citation you must flag they have improperly cited and have NO LEG TO STAND ON.


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Re: Can We Fry the Charlottesville Racist Now?
Posted by: y6jhd ()
Date: December 09, 2018 07:31AM

(USC has an "administrative law" section. it's boring as hell section that shouldn't need to be read (all common sense); it is not read except in cases where lawyers are attempting to use loopholes)

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