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Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: ChiefSkelton ()
Date: December 03, 2018 12:51PM

Meade is a true Native American! Someone call him Chief Sweet tea


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcgugeq0-fg

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: P Kline ()
Date: December 03, 2018 02:50PM

Meade looks more like a Jew than an Indian.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Chief Sweet PEE ()
Date: December 03, 2018 02:58PM

You mean Chief Sweet PEE

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Liz Warren more injun than Meade ()
Date: December 03, 2018 03:31PM

P Kline Wrote:
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> Meade looks more like a Jew than an Indian.

According to his family tree he is 1/2048 injun .
So he is less than .05% Native American.

So his 4-6% Jew is 100 times more than that...

And we laugh at Elizabeth Warren.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: this shit again? ()
Date: December 03, 2018 03:35PM

Meade is not an indian. He needs to go to the nearest res, announce that he is one of the tribe, and then do one of his war whoops.

Then maybe the injuns will explain the facts of life to him.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: #1 Gretchen Fan ()
Date: December 03, 2018 04:25PM

They would give him a well paying job singing at a casino.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Injuntrue ()
Date: December 03, 2018 04:38PM

Liz Warren more injun than Meade Wrote:
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> P Kline Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Meade looks more like a Jew than an Indian.
>
> According to his family tree he is 1/2048 injun .
> So he is less than .05% Native American.
>
> So his 4-6% Jew is 100 times more than that...
>
> And we laugh at Elizabeth Warren.


She has no documented ancestors. I would say Meade is more Indian than she is. He is also a cousin of Wayne Newton and Debbie Whitefeather.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Gut busters ()
Date: December 03, 2018 05:15PM

Injuntrue Wrote:
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> Liz Warren more injun than Meade Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > P Kline Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Meade looks more like a Jew than an Indian.
> >
> > According to his family tree he is 1/2048 injun
> .
> > So he is less than .05% Native American.
> >
> > So his 4-6% Jew is 100 times more than that...
> >
> > And we laugh at Elizabeth Warren.
>
>
> She has no documented ancestors. I would say Meade
> is more Indian than she is. He is also a cousin of
> Wayne Newton and Debbie Whitefeather.


Meade bragging about his 1/2048th native American and walking around in his injun get up is as funny as his bragging about his 'film career' which consists of being an uncredited extra in a film no one remembers.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Family Tree Meade ()
Date: December 03, 2018 05:18PM

Injuntrue Wrote:

> She has no documented ancestors. I would say Meade
> is more Indian than she is. He is also a cousin of
> Wayne Newton and Debbie Whitefeather.


Will Meade's next family tree video document his true relationship with superstar Wayne Newton?

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: FFVtrue ()
Date: December 03, 2018 06:50PM

Meade is an old time Virginian. His family has a long line of marrying 1st cousins.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren is closer ()
Date: December 03, 2018 07:05PM

1/2048th native American?

Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Meade is as injun as anyone else ()
Date: December 03, 2018 07:43PM

Elizabeth Warren is closer Wrote:
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> 1/2048th native American?
>
> Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.

Elizabeth Warren is between 1/32 and 1/512 Native American and that is very very funny.

Even taking the low number of 1/512, we need to laugh at Meade 4 times as much as we do Elizabeth Warren. Of course, if her family tree shows her at 1/32 then we need to laugh at Meade 64 times as much.


Of course, Meade the snowflake that he is, won't see it that way.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Meade is as injun as anyone else ()
Date: December 03, 2018 07:43PM

Elizabeth Warren is closer Wrote:
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> 1/2048th native American?
>
> Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.

Elizabeth Warren is between 1/32 and 1/512 Native American and that is very very funny.

Even taking the low number of 1/512, we need to laugh at Meade 4 times as much as we do Elizabeth Warren. Of course, if her family tree shows her at 1/32 then we need to laugh at Meade 64 times as much.


Of course, Meade the snowflake that he is, won't see it that way.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: a jewish indian? ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:19PM

meade is jewish

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Inbred Racists ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:28PM

a jewish indian? Wrote:
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> meade is jewish

Technically a black inbred Jewish Indian. It explains alot.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: meade should open a casino ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:30PM

Wouldn't that be cool?

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Chief Shitting Bull ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:33PM

Tilmeade should open a casino Wrote:
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> Wouldn't that be cool?
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: meade should sing about scalping ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:35PM

I mean, he yaks and yaks about his indian heritage, but has never written a song about it. I would love to hear a meade injun song. A song about why all indians love trump.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: meade should sing about scalping ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:35PM

I mean, he yaks and yaks about his indian heritage, but has never written a song about it. I would love to hear a meade injun song. A song about why all indians love trump.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: My23andme ()
Date: December 03, 2018 08:39PM

a jewish indian? Wrote:
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> meade is jewish


I'm one 16th native American and one 8th Ashkenazy Jew according to 23 and Me.


My Jewish great grandmother married a Texan... and I'm guessing the Indian comes from there.

Fucking Native Americans are a bunch of bums who can't handle their liquor. I'm glad I don't have more Injun blood in me.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Nice Try But Fake News ()
Date: December 03, 2018 09:55PM

I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree is WRONG.

In April 1614, at the age of 17, she married tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January 1615, she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Branscombe Richmond ()
Date: December 03, 2018 10:05PM

Meade has done many great things to help his tribe. He works well with Native Americans, not against them.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: enquiring Minds want to know ()
Date: December 03, 2018 10:44PM

Branscombe Richmond Wrote:
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> Meade has done many great things to help his
> tribe. He works well with Native Americans, not
> against them.


Nsme one thing Meade has done to help his tribe.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: KaokeeJane ()
Date: December 03, 2018 10:55PM

Nice Try But Fake News Wrote:
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> I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree is
> WRONG.
>
> In April 1614, at the age of 17, she married
> tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January 1615,
> she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.



That was her 2nd marriage. She first married Kaokum and had a daughter by that marriage. They had a daughter named Kaokee who married Col Thomas Pettus. Meade is as old Virginian as you can get !

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Patawomeck ()
Date: December 03, 2018 10:56PM

Elizabeth Warren is closer Wrote:
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> 1/2048th native American?
>
> Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.


She is not a descendant of Pocahontas.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Sorry to disappoint you ()
Date: December 03, 2018 11:29PM

Patawomeck Wrote:
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> Elizabeth Warren is closer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1/2048th native American?
> >
> > Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.
>
>
> She is not a descendant of Pocahontas.

She still has more native American blood than you do, Meade.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: LOL @ Meade's cousins ()
Date: December 03, 2018 11:41PM

Teasing him by sending him 'documents' about his lineage.

I bet next year they tell him the Haufe's are connected to the Trumps.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Even if the documents are true ()
Date: December 04, 2018 12:50AM

LOL @ Meade's cousins Wrote:
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> Teasing him by sending him 'documents' about his
> lineage.
>
> I bet next year they tell him the Haufe's are
> connected to the Trumps.


Even if the documents are true, Meade has so little Native American blood in him, he just looks goofy when he dons the appearance of his ancestors.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Fake News Folks! ()
Date: December 04, 2018 09:05AM

KaokeeJane Wrote:
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> Nice Try But Fake News Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree is
> > WRONG.
> >
> > In April 1614, at the age of 17, she
> married
> > tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January
> 1615,
> > she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.

>
>
> That was her 2nd marriage. She first married
> Kaokum and had a daughter by that marriage. They
> had a daughter named Kaokee who married Col Thomas
> Pettus. Meade is as old Virginian as you can get !

That is incorrect!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Sad news ()
Date: December 04, 2018 09:13AM

Health wise it could explain a lot of Meades health issues. Indians did a lot of inbreeding(Only bred inside their race) and as a result, had inferior genes and tons of health issues.

It's sad to hear that Meade is carrying all those inferior inbred genes. This could explain why Meade is not procreating.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: God Created Evolution ()
Date: December 04, 2018 11:57AM

Sad news Wrote:
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> Health wise it could explain a lot of Meades
> health issues. Indians did a lot of
> inbreeding(Only bred inside their race) and as a
> result, had inferior genes and tons of health
> issues.
>
> It's sad to hear that Meade is carrying all those
> inferior inbred genes. This could explain why
> Meade is not procreating.


Who are you to call God's will sad?

Through Natural Selection, God has commanded that Meade will not fertilize any female to produce 1/4098th Native American.

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Posted by: TruthbTold ()
Date: December 04, 2018 12:30PM

Fake News Folks! Wrote:
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> KaokeeJane Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice Try But Fake News Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree
> is
> > > WRONG.
> > >
> > > In April 1614, at the age of 17, she
> > married
> > > tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January
> > 1615,
> > > she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.

> >
> >
> > That was her 2nd marriage. She first married
> > Kaokum and had a daughter by that marriage.
> They
> > had a daughter named Kaokee who married Col
> Thomas
> > Pettus. Meade is as old Virginian as you can get
> !
>
> That is incorrect!

Take it up with the Patawomeck Indian tribe in White Oak. They have this historically documented. She was only a young teen at the time of her first marriage, probably only 15, since Kaokee was born in 1611.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: indiangivers ()
Date: December 04, 2018 12:32PM

Sad news Wrote:
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> Health wise it could explain a lot of Meades
> health issues. Indians did a lot of
> inbreeding(Only bred inside their race) and as a
> result, had inferior genes and tons of health
> issues.
>
> It's sad to hear that Meade is carrying all those
> inferior inbred genes. This could explain why
> Meade is not procreating.


The sad part is Meade seems to be living off the glory of his ancestors. He comes from Old FFV family (and on his mother's side). What difference does that make? He lives on Government assistance. His ancestors would be ashamed. Especially brave indian warrior Kaokum and Poachonatas. They don't want their 11th great grandson mooching!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Snowflake Meade ()
Date: December 04, 2018 12:38PM

indiangivers Wrote:
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> Sad news Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Health wise it could explain a lot of Meades
> > health issues. Indians did a lot of
> > inbreeding(Only bred inside their race) and as
> a
> > result, had inferior genes and tons of health
> > issues.
> >
> > It's sad to hear that Meade is carrying all
> those
> > inferior inbred genes. This could explain why
> > Meade is not procreating.
>
>
> The sad part is Meade seems to be living off the
> glory of his ancestors. He comes from Old FFV
> family (and on his mother's side). What difference
> does that make? He lives on Government assistance.
> His ancestors would be ashamed. Especially brave
> indian warrior Kaokum and Poachonatas. They don't
> want their 11th great grandson mooching!


People are defined by their own actions and not by the actions of their ancestors.

Meade is one of the worst entitled snowflakes I know of. He acts worse than most liberals but somehow thinks he is superior to all of them.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: OldMoneynames ()
Date: December 04, 2018 02:29PM

Meade comes from the finest of families. He is descended of royalty!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Living in the past ()
Date: December 04, 2018 04:43PM

OldMoneynames Wrote:
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> Meade comes from the finest of families. He is
> descended of royalty!


Whatever 'royalty' may have been there was long gone generations before Meade was born.


All we got is a big steamy pile of Meade who needs to look at the past because he has really fucked up in the present.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: December 04, 2018 10:32PM

OldMoneynames Wrote:
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> Meade comes from the finest of families. He is
> descended of royalty!


What a tragedy that the final heir to a proud southern family is a feminine, obese impotent eunuch whose legacy is being unemployed and collecting welfare.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: all the real Southerners died ()
Date: December 04, 2018 10:37PM

The last of the real southerners died charging up Cemetary Hill. The dregs who were left begat eesh, miz, meade, kriss tator.

And BTW, I am amazed (not) that Meade disregards DNA evidence, but trusts some arbitrary documentation that somehow proves he is an Indian Prince.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: UppityNegro ()
Date: December 05, 2018 02:27AM

KaokeeJane Wrote:
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> Nice Try But Fake News Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree is
> > WRONG.
> >
> > In April 1614, at the age of 17, she
> married
> > tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January
> 1615,
> > she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.

>
>
> That was her 2nd marriage. She first married
> Kaokum and had a daughter by that marriage. They
> had a daughter named Kaokee who married Col Thomas
> Pettus. Meade is as old Virginian as you can get !

Kaokee never existed

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Big steamy pile of Meade ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:18AM

UppityNegro Wrote:

>
> Kaokee never existed


Checking, it does appear that there is no direct evidence that Kaokee ever existed and it is a

It all comes from the say-so of Bill Deyo and no other sources at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOV0enALzRo

I guess it is contentious whether she existed at all.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Here we go.. ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:25AM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239

Little Kocoum
In 2007 a book was published called The True Story of Pocahontas, The other side of the story, written by Dr. Linwood "Little Bear" Custalow and Angela L. Daniel "Silver Star". Dr. Custalow was a member of the Mattiponi Tribe of Virginia. He claims in his book to be the keeper of the 'sacred oral history' of the Mattiponi Tribe. In his book he states that according to the sacred oral history of the Mattiponi Tribe, Pocahontas and Kocoum had a child they called "Little Kocoum" and that that child was a son.[2] This book makes many other claims including one that states that Pocahontas was raped, possibly by more than one man, and that John Rolfe was not the father of Thomas, her second son.

The existence of Little Kocoum is based solely on this oral tradition. There is no evidence that would substantiate his birth, life, marriage, etc.

Ka Okee
In 2009, an article in the Patawomeck Tides, a publication of the Patawomeck tribe, Bill Deyo lays out his claim for Ka Okee. He wrote that he had been trying to make a connection to Pocahontas through the Rolfe family and was unable to. He claims to have known of an Indian girl named Ka Okee but did not know where she fit in until he read the Custalow book. In his article he wrote:

The book by Custalow and Daniel calls the child “Little Kocoum,” but the time line near the end of the book states that they really do not know anything about the child from the sacred Mattaponi history, only that Pocahontas had a child by Kocoum and that the child was raised by the Patawomeck Tribe. [3]
Deyo seems to deliberately leave out the part about Little Kocoum being a male child. He then says that this child was Ka Okee, a girl. As with Little Kocoum, there is no evidence that this child lived, married or had descendants.

Deyo says that Ka Okee had a daughter Christian Pettus who then went on to marry John Martin. No source can be found for this daughter or her marriage.

Ka Okee/Kocoum was the subject of profile of the week and a lengthy G2G. We found no evidence for her existence. The first mention of her on the Internet was in 2007, at that time she was not connected to Pocahontas. Other posts concerning Ka Okee occurred in 2007 and 2009, It was not until 2009 that she was called the daughter of Pocahontas. No evidence for this relationship was ever given.

It was decided to disconnect her from her 'parents' and unless credible evidence is provided she will remain detached.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: FAKE NEWS FOLKS! ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:31AM

LMAO!!! I would give you the level of bullshit that this is but the needle on my bullshit meter spun around and flew out the window.

FAKE NEWS FOLKS!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Comedy gold ()
Date: December 05, 2018 02:07PM

FAKE NEWS FOLKS! Wrote:
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> LMAO!!! I would give you the level of bullshit
> that this is but the needle on my bullshit meter
> spun around and flew out the window.
>
> FAKE NEWS FOLKS!


It really is very funny. Some drunk Native American, Bill Deyo, just knew he was descended from Pocahontas. When he found he wasn't by the verified family lines, he took a rumor of Pocahontas having a son by a previous marriage, turned the som into a daughter and out popped this newly discovered family tree.

Meade, of course, takes it at face value, brags about it and makes an even bigger buffoon out of himself over it.

And none of us thought Meade could get any goofier,
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: YoungGirl ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:47PM

UppityNegro Wrote:
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> KaokeeJane Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice Try But Fake News Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I hate to burst Meade's bubble but his tree
> is
> > > WRONG.
> > >
> > > In April 1614, at the age of 17, she
> > married
> > > tobacco planter John Rolfe, and in January
> > 1615,
> > > she bore their son, Thomas Rolfe.

> >
> >
> > That was her 2nd marriage. She first married
> > Kaokum and had a daughter by that marriage.
> They
> > had a daughter named Kaokee who married Col
> Thomas
> > Pettus. Meade is as old Virginian as you can get
> !
>
> Kaokee never existed


Yes she did. She is supported by the Patawomeck Indian tribe in their records. Mainstream historians cover this up because Pocahontas would have been only 14 at the time of birth, but this was common in those days.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: HeritageofOld ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:49PM

FAKE NEWS FOLKS! Wrote:
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> LMAO!!! I would give you the level of bullshit
> that this is but the needle on my bullshit meter
> spun around and flew out the window.
>
> FAKE NEWS FOLKS!


It may or not be true. But even if it is true, it is so distant on his family tree, he shouldn't go around wearing Native American regalia. It's offensive. He probably is more Indian than Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren, but not by much.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: PowhatanHistory ()
Date: December 05, 2018 03:51PM

Here we go.. Wrote:
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> https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
>
> Little Kocoum
> In 2007 a book was published called The True Story
> of Pocahontas, The other side of the story,
> written by Dr. Linwood "Little Bear" Custalow and
> Angela L. Daniel "Silver Star". Dr. Custalow was a
> member of the Mattiponi Tribe of Virginia. He
> claims in his book to be the keeper of the 'sacred
> oral history' of the Mattiponi Tribe. In his book
> he states that according to the sacred oral
> history of the Mattiponi Tribe, Pocahontas and
> Kocoum had a child they called "Little Kocoum" and
> that that child was a son.[2] This book makes many
> other claims including one that states that
> Pocahontas was raped, possibly by more than one
> man, and that John Rolfe was not the father of
> Thomas, her second son.
>
> The existence of Little Kocoum is based solely on
> this oral tradition. There is no evidence that
> would substantiate his birth, life, marriage,
> etc.
>
> Ka Okee
> In 2009, an article in the Patawomeck Tides, a
> publication of the Patawomeck tribe, Bill Deyo
> lays out his claim for Ka Okee. He wrote that he
> had been trying to make a connection to Pocahontas
> through the Rolfe family and was unable to. He
> claims to have known of an Indian girl named Ka
> Okee but did not know where she fit in until he
> read the Custalow book. In his article he wrote:
>
> The book by Custalow and Daniel calls the child
> “Little Kocoum,” but the time line near the
> end of the book states that they really do not
> know anything about the child from the sacred
> Mattaponi history, only that Pocahontas had a
> child by Kocoum and that the child was raised by
> the Patawomeck Tribe. [3]
> Deyo seems to deliberately leave out the part
> about Little Kocoum being a male child. He then
> says that this child was Ka Okee, a girl. As with
> Little Kocoum, there is no evidence that this
> child lived, married or had descendants.
>
> Deyo says that Ka Okee had a daughter Christian
> Pettus who then went on to marry John Martin. No
> source can be found for this daughter or her
> marriage.
>
> Ka Okee/Kocoum was the subject of profile of the
> week and a lengthy G2G. We found no evidence for
> her existence. The first mention of her on the
> Internet was in 2007, at that time she was not
> connected to Pocahontas. Other posts concerning Ka
> Okee occurred in 2007 and 2009, It was not until
> 2009 that she was called the daughter of
> Pocahontas. No evidence for this relationship was
> ever given.
>
> It was decided to disconnect her from her
> 'parents' and unless credible evidence is provided
> she will remain detached.



False. Kaokum was the 1st husband of Pocahontas and they had one daughter Kaokee. There was never any son between them, at least not verified. But Kaokee is established in the tribal records. This was confirmed with local Fredericksburg historian Bill Deyo, a cousin of Meade's. Although, regardless, this little bit of Indian on the family tree is so far back, it would not be genetically relevant.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Bullshit Meter Pegged ()
Date: December 05, 2018 04:03PM

PowhatanHistory Wrote:
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> Here we go.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
> >
> > Little Kocoum
> > In 2007 a book was published called The True
> Story
> > of Pocahontas, The other side of the story,
> > written by Dr. Linwood "Little Bear" Custalow
> and
> > Angela L. Daniel "Silver Star". Dr. Custalow was
> a
> > member of the Mattiponi Tribe of Virginia. He
> > claims in his book to be the keeper of the
> 'sacred
> > oral history' of the Mattiponi Tribe. In his
> book
> > he states that according to the sacred oral
> > history of the Mattiponi Tribe, Pocahontas and
> > Kocoum had a child they called "Little Kocoum"
> and
> > that that child was a son.[2] This book makes
> many
> > other claims including one that states that
> > Pocahontas was raped, possibly by more than one
> > man, and that John Rolfe was not the father of
> > Thomas, her second son.
> >
> > The existence of Little Kocoum is based solely
> on
> > this oral tradition. There is no evidence that
> > would substantiate his birth, life, marriage,
> > etc.
> >
> > Ka Okee
> > In 2009, an article in the Patawomeck Tides, a
> > publication of the Patawomeck tribe, Bill Deyo
> > lays out his claim for Ka Okee. He wrote that
> he
> > had been trying to make a connection to
> Pocahontas
> > through the Rolfe family and was unable to. He
> > claims to have known of an Indian girl named Ka
> > Okee but did not know where she fit in until he
> > read the Custalow book. In his article he
> wrote:
> >
> > The book by Custalow and Daniel calls the child
> > “Little Kocoum,” but the time line near the
> > end of the book states that they really do not
> > know anything about the child from the sacred
> > Mattaponi history, only that Pocahontas had a
> > child by Kocoum and that the child was raised
> by
> > the Patawomeck Tribe. [3]
> > Deyo seems to deliberately leave out the part
> > about Little Kocoum being a male child. He then
> > says that this child was Ka Okee, a girl. As
> with
> > Little Kocoum, there is no evidence that this
> > child lived, married or had descendants.
> >
> > Deyo says that Ka Okee had a daughter Christian
> > Pettus who then went on to marry John Martin.
> No
> > source can be found for this daughter or her
> > marriage.
> >
> > Ka Okee/Kocoum was the subject of profile of
> the
> > week and a lengthy G2G. We found no evidence
> for
> > her existence. The first mention of her on the
> > Internet was in 2007, at that time she was not
> > connected to Pocahontas. Other posts concerning
> Ka
> > Okee occurred in 2007 and 2009, It was not
> until
> > 2009 that she was called the daughter of
> > Pocahontas. No evidence for this relationship
> was
> > ever given.
> >
> > It was decided to disconnect her from her
> > 'parents' and unless credible evidence is
> provided
> > she will remain detached.
>
>
>
> False. Kaokum was the 1st husband of Pocahontas
> and they had one daughter Kaokee. There was never
> any son between them, at least not verified. But
> Kaokee is established in the tribal records. This
> was confirmed with local Fredericksburg historian
> Bill Deyo, a cousin of Meade's.
Although,
> regardless, this little bit of Indian on the
> family tree is so far back, it would not be
> genetically relevant.

Aka Bullshit story. Instead of this was confirmed it should read "this was made up by."

Tribal records... LMAO!!! The Indians didn't keep birth records.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Keep telling yourself that Meade ()
Date: December 05, 2018 04:21PM

YoungGirl Wrote:

> Yes she did. She is supported by the Patawomeck
> Indian tribe in their records. Mainstream
> historians cover this up because Pocahontas would
> have been only 14 at the time of birth, but this
> was common in those days.


Here is Bill Deyo's own very 'convincing' story on his discovery that this woman was Pocahontas's daughter.


https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upload/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf

Bill Deyo takes a rumor of a son of Pocahontas and declares they must have really been talking about this rumored, Kaokee, woman who is a speculative part of his family tree and he couldn't place her.

He was the first to connect the dot of Kaokee to Pochantus.

Those are from his own words. He doesn't mention any 'Indian Tribe Record' to collaborate that.

Now he tells anyone who would listen that 'mainstream history' can't deal with
14-year-old girls getting knocked up and that is why they won't report it.
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: LineageLine ()
Date: December 05, 2018 04:58PM

Keep telling yourself that Meade Wrote:
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> YoungGirl Wrote:
>
> > Yes she did. She is supported by the Patawomeck
> > Indian tribe in their records. Mainstream
> > historians cover this up because Pocahontas
> would
> > have been only 14 at the time of birth, but
> this
> > was common in those days.
>
>
> Here is Bill Deyo's own very 'convincing' story on
> his discovery that this woman was Pocahontas's
> daughter.
>
>
> https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upl
> oad/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf
>
> Bill Deyo takes a rumor of a son of Pocahontas
> and declares they must have really been talking
> about this rumored, Kaokee, woman who is a
> speculative part of his family tree and he
> couldn't place her.
>
> He was the first to connect the dot of Kaokee to
> Pochantus.
>
> Those are from his own words. He doesn't mention
> any 'Indian Tribe Record' to collaborate that.
>
> Now he tells anyone who would listen that
> 'mainstream history' can't deal with
> 14-year-old girls getting knocked up and that is
> why they won't report it.

It is known that Pocahontas and Kaokum were married. Tribes didn't keep all birth records but did for marriages. Their daughter Kaokee married Colonel Thomas Pettus. Why this is not mentioned to mainstream audiences is unknown. Most people assume she was only married and bore children to John Rolfe. That isn't true.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Albert Einstien's secret Daughte ()
Date: December 05, 2018 05:21PM

This is the oldest bullshit in the book.

"I'm related to Albert Einstien. It not on any records because it was a child that Einstien kept a secret."

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Meade ruins everything ()
Date: December 05, 2018 05:39PM

https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocahontas-first-marriage-powhatan-side-story

It seems there has been some decent speculation of Pocahontas' having a child by a first marriage.

That includes the research done in this book.

https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Pocahontas-Other-History/dp/1555916325

The problem is until Bill Deyo, this child was always said to be a son. This includes all
Deyo made the choice to switch it to daughter. That is the only way he could be a descendant of Pocahontas like he was told he was when he was growing up.


Here is Meade's ancestor.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239

Note the disclaimer

"Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details."

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: SpeculativeCaution ()
Date: December 05, 2018 07:29PM

Meade ruins everything Wrote:
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> https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocah
> ontas-first-marriage-powhatan-side-story
>
> It seems there has been some decent speculation of
> Pocahontas' having a child by a first marriage.
>
> That includes the research done in this book.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Pocahontas-Other
> -History/dp/1555916325
>
> The problem is until Bill Deyo, this child was
> always said to be a son. This includes all
> Deyo made the choice to switch it to daughter.
> That is the only way he could be a descendant of
> Pocahontas like he was told he was when he was
> growing up.
>
>
> Here is Meade's ancestor.
>
> https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
>
> Note the disclaimer
>
> "Research suggests that this person may never have
> existed. See the text for details."

Then who married Colonel Thomas Pettus? For that family line to exist there has to be a maternal line in there, or else the other people would not have anyone to descend from. Anyone could say "that person doesn't exist". That doesn't mean it to be true.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: LadyYuett ()
Date: December 05, 2018 07:30PM

Meade ruins everything Wrote:
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> https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocah
> ontas-first-marriage-powhatan-side-story
>
> It seems there has been some decent speculation of
> Pocahontas' having a child by a first marriage.
>
> That includes the research done in this book.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Pocahontas-Other
> -History/dp/1555916325
>
> The problem is until Bill Deyo, this child was
> always said to be a son. This includes all
> Deyo made the choice to switch it to daughter.
> That is the only way he could be a descendant of
> Pocahontas like he was told he was when he was
> growing up.
>
>
> Here is Meade's ancestor.
>
> https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
>
> Note the disclaimer
>
> "Research suggests that this person may never have
> existed. See the text for details."


AHEM: HERE IS HER GRAVESITE:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131606355/ka_okee_jane-pettus

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: are you that stupid? ()
Date: December 05, 2018 07:50PM

LadyYuett Wrote:

> https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131606355/ka_o
> kee_jane-pettus

Here is her stats from that site:


Ka Okee Jane Powhatan Pettus
BIRTH 1612
Virginia, USA
DEATH 1670 (aged 57–58)
James City County, Virginia, USA
BURIAL Body lost or destroyed
MEMORIAL ID 131606355 · View Source

Hi Meade, did you take "

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: are you that stupid? ()
Date: December 05, 2018 07:58PM

SpeculativeCaution Wrote:
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> Meade ruins everything Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocah
>
> > ontas-first-marriage-powhatan-side-story
> >
> > It seems there has been some decent speculation
> of
> > Pocahontas' having a child by a first marriage.
>
> >
> > That includes the research done in this book.
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Pocahontas-Other
>
> > -History/dp/1555916325
> >
> > The problem is until Bill Deyo, this child was
> > always said to be a son. This includes all
> > Deyo made the choice to switch it to daughter.
> > That is the only way he could be a descendant
> of
> > Pocahontas like he was told he was when he was
> > growing up.
> >
> >
> > Here is Meade's ancestor.
> >
> > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
> >
> > Note the disclaimer
> >
> > "Research suggests that this person may never
> have
> > existed. See the text for details."
>
> Then who married Colonel Thomas Pettus? For that
> family line to exist there has to be a maternal
> line in there, or else the other people would not
> have anyone to descend from. Anyone could say
> "that person doesn't exist". That doesn't mean it
> to be true.

No one knows for certain who her mother was.

Yes, she had to have a mother. Yes her mother may have been called 'Kaokee'.

That is all that can be ascertained from the evidence.

To think she was Pochantus's daughter because there is an Indian Oral history of Pocahontas having an older son before she married Rolfe is really a stretch of the imagination.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Nice Try But Fake News ()
Date: December 05, 2018 08:04PM

LadyYuett Wrote:
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> Meade ruins everything Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> https://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocah
>
> > ontas-first-marriage-powhatan-side-story
> >
> > It seems there has been some decent speculation
> of
> > Pocahontas' having a child by a first marriage.
>
> >
> > That includes the research done in this book.
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/True-Story-Pocahontas-Other
>
> > -History/dp/1555916325
> >
> > The problem is until Bill Deyo, this child was
> > always said to be a son. This includes all
> > Deyo made the choice to switch it to daughter.
> > That is the only way he could be a descendant
> of
> > Pocahontas like he was told he was when he was
> > growing up.
> >
> >
> > Here is Meade's ancestor.
> >
> > https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Powhatan-239
> >
> > Note the disclaimer
> >
> > "Research suggests that this person may never
> have
> > existed. See the text for details."
>
>
> AHEM: HERE IS HER GRAVESITE:
>
> https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131606355/ka_o
> kee_jane-pettus

"Body lost or destroyed" Does this person even exist? Or is this just another Ancestry.com fake news story.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: I believe DNA ()
Date: December 05, 2018 08:09PM

meade is not an indian

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: who IS this daughter karaoke? ()
Date: December 05, 2018 09:15PM

that sounds japanese to me

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: comment from meade fan club page ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:42PM

...I would rather do a song for Melania instead. She did such a good job on the WHITE house decorations......

meade really did not like having a black president.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: That's the way the whore moans ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:53PM

comment from meade fan club page Wrote:
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> ...I would rather do a song for Melania instead.
> She did such a good job on the WHITE house
> decorations......
>
> meade really did not like having a black
> president.


This bloody mess is what Melania did in the white house this year...

Hopefully, she going through menopause and this is just a reaction to no longer being visited by her "Aunt Flo".
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Bill 'fire water' Deyo shows ()
Date: December 05, 2018 11:58PM

Patawomeck Wrote:
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> Elizabeth Warren is closer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 1/2048th native American?
> >
> > Elizabeth Warren is far closer to Pocahontas.
>
>
> She is not a descendant of Pocahontas.


As it turns out Meade isn't a descendant of Pocahontas either!!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: FarbackNA ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:02AM

I believe DNA Wrote:
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> meade is not an indian


If it is that far back on his family tree, it isn't likely to show up on DNA test. Some Amerindian did show up on his GEDmatch test. Only around 2%

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: melania's decor ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:11AM

That's the way the whore moans Wrote:
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>
>
>
> This bloody mess is what Melania did in the white
> house this year...
>
> Hopefully, she going through menopause and this is
> just a reaction to no longer being visited by her
> "Aunt Flo".


reminds me of that bad movie 'Day of the Trifids'.

The sea water kills them!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: In a nutshell ()
Date: December 06, 2018 11:33AM

A quick recap...

Bill Deyo does seem to have had a bit too much Tomahawk juice.

Here is an essay he wrote psychotically in the third person.

https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upload/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf

"After putting together a multitude of descendants of Ka-Okee
3 Patawomeck Tides
through her daughter, Christian Martin, an amazing thing happened. A book was published by
Dr. Linwood Custalow and Angela Daniel about the true story of Pocahontas. The information
was obtained from the sacred oral history of the Mattaponi Tribe."

What is the truly 'amazing thing' is how Bill Deyo read that book which talks about a SON of Pocahantos, transfigures it to be a DAUGHTER of Pocahantus and therefore must be his female ancestor which not much is known about except she lived during the same era.

A competent historian would have mentioned the fact why Custalow and Daniel were confused about the gender of Pocahontas' earlier child. Instead, Deyo avoids even mentioning that rather major discrepancy.

He probably realized that the only people foolish enough to listen to him would never research the validity of his claims.....Enter Meade Skelton...
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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: You get respect for hard work! ()
Date: December 06, 2018 11:52AM

This is crap low life lazy as rednecks try. They grasp on to some fantasy that they are somehow related to a famous person in history. That because they are related somehow they should be treated differently.

The summary is very simple. You get respect for hard work!

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Snowflake Meade ()
Date: December 06, 2018 12:43PM

You get respect for hard work! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> The summary is very simple. You get respect for
> hard work!


We are judged by our actions and not those of our ancestors.

Meade has said many times that blacks need to 'get over' slavery and Jews need to 'get over' the Holocaust. I don't disagree with that on a certain level, but at the same token Meade really needs to 'get over' his ancestors.

If Meade comes from such great stock, how come he is such a fuckup?

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Thetruestory ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:24PM

In a nutshell Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A quick recap...
>
> Bill Deyo does seem to have had a bit too much
> Tomahawk juice.
>
> Here is an essay he wrote psychotically in the
> third person.
>
> https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upl
> oad/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf
>
> "After putting together a multitude of descendants
> of Ka-Okee
> 3 Patawomeck Tides
> through her daughter, Christian Martin, an amazing
> thing happened. A book was published by
> Dr. Linwood Custalow and Angela Daniel about the
> true story of Pocahontas. The information
> was obtained from the sacred oral history of the
> Mattaponi Tribe."
>
> What is the truly 'amazing thing' is how Bill
> Deyo read that book which talks about a SON of
> Pocahantos, transfigures it to be a DAUGHTER of
> Pocahantus and therefore must be his female
> ancestor which not much is known about except she
> lived during the same era.
>
> A competent historian would have mentioned the
> fact why Custalow and Daniel were confused about
> the gender of Pocahontas' earlier child. Instead,
> Deyo avoids even mentioning that rather major
> discrepancy.
>
> He probably realized that the only people foolish
> enough to listen to him would never research the
> validity of his claims.....Enter Meade Skelton...


The confusion comes from the name Kaokum. It was assumed that Kaokee meant "little Kaokum". But upon further research they realized she was Anglicized to KaokeJane when she married Colonel Thomas Pettus.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Nice Try But Fake News ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:37PM

So Meade comes from a transvestite Indian?

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: InbreadJed ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:49PM

The family tree makes sense. He said many of his ancestors married 1st cousins. Meade is the product of inbreeding.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Hi Meade ()
Date: December 06, 2018 01:59PM

Thetruestory Wrote:

>
> The confusion comes from the name Kaokum. It was
> assumed that Kaokee meant "little Kaokum". But
> upon further research they realized she was
> Anglicized to KaokeJane when she married Colonel
> Thomas Pettus.

This is Bill Deyo's drunken speculation. Because it is so far-fetched, no other Historians accept it. This includes the Native American Historians who wrote the book Deyo claims to have helped him discover the truth about his lost ancestor.

To present it as 'fact' and ignore the contentiousness of Dyer's claim has brought is bad history. Until anything comes up that shows this daughter of Pocahontas outside of Deyo's whimsy, it has to be assumed it was Deyo's whimsy.

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/278745/help-okee-powhatan-pettus-pocahontas-project-collab-profile

Keep in Mind Deyo started his research to show that he was a direct descendant of Pocahauntus. "Seek and ye shall find" couldn't be applied more appropriately

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Pocahauntas ()
Date: December 06, 2018 02:03PM

Hi Meade Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Thetruestory Wrote:
>
> >
> > The confusion comes from the name Kaokum. It
> was
> > assumed that Kaokee meant "little Kaokum". But
> > upon further research they realized she was
> > Anglicized to KaokeJane when she married
> Colonel
> > Thomas Pettus.
>
> This is Bill Deyo's drunken speculation. Because
> it is so far-fetched, no other Historians accept
> it. This includes the Native American Historians
> who wrote the book Deyo claims to have helped him
> discover the truth about his lost ancestor.
>
> To present it as 'fact' and ignore the
> contentiousness of Dyer's claim has brought is bad
> history. Until anything comes up that shows this
> daughter of Pocahontas outside of Deyo's whimsy,
> it has to be assumed it was Deyo's whimsy.
>
> https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/278745/help-okee-powh
> atan-pettus-pocahontas-project-collab-profile
>
> Keep in Mind Deyo started his research to show
> that he was a direct descendant of Pocahauntus.
> "Seek and ye shall find" couldn't be applied more
> appropriately

Deyo is a member of the Patawomeck Indian tribe not just some out of the woods historian. He obviously has worked with tribal records and research. The story is most likely true. Why do historians ignore it? Because it doesn't fit their own narrative. Pocahontas married John Rolfe out of pressure to make peace with the white settlers is what historians want us to know. They don't care that she had another marriage to an Indian warrior named Kaokum.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Meade is my Spirit Animal ()
Date: December 06, 2018 02:05PM

He is a very spiritual guy. Guess it was meant to be.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: at least he won't reproduce ()
Date: December 06, 2018 02:31PM

So his family tree is about to get hewn.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Bill 'fire water' Deyo shows ()
Date: December 06, 2018 02:36PM

Pocahauntas Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Deyo is a member of the Patawomeck Indian tribe
> not just some out of the woods historian. He
> obviously has worked with tribal records and
> research. The story is most likely true. Why do
> historians ignore it? Because it doesn't fit their
> own narrative. Pocahontas married John Rolfe out
> of pressure to make peace with the white settlers
> is what historians want us to know. They don't
> care that she had another marriage to an Indian
> warrior named Kaokum.

Read Deyo's own words on how he made this 'discovery'.

https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upload/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf

If it was in the tribal records he wouldn't have had to make the speculative jump he made 10 years ago.

Real historians have dismissed it because there is no evidence for it other than Deyo's 'say-so'.

It needs to be presented at best as a possibility(albeit remote) and not as undisputed fact. To do any more than that makes you look foolish.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: SealedDocuments ()
Date: December 06, 2018 03:36PM

Bill 'fire water' Deyo shows Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pocahauntas Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Deyo is a member of the Patawomeck Indian tribe
> > not just some out of the woods historian. He
> > obviously has worked with tribal records and
> > research. The story is most likely true. Why do
> > historians ignore it? Because it doesn't fit
> their
> > own narrative. Pocahontas married John Rolfe
> out
> > of pressure to make peace with the white
> settlers
> > is what historians want us to know. They don't
> > care that she had another marriage to an Indian
> > warrior named Kaokum.
>
> Read Deyo's own words on how he made this
> 'discovery'.
>
> https://home.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/upl
> oad/patawomeck-tides-2009.pdf
>
> If it was in the tribal records he wouldn't have
> had to make the speculative jump he made 10 years
> ago.
>
> Real historians have dismissed it because there is
> no evidence for it other than Deyo's 'say-so'.
>
> It needs to be presented at best as a
> possibility(albeit remote) and not as undisputed
> fact. To do any more than that makes you look
> foolish.

If you remove Kaokee from the line, then there is no one to descend from Colonel Thomas Pettus. It makes more sense that the truth is they have hid the information. Chief Powhatan was not happy about the union of Pochahontas Matoaka and Kaokum. He may have disowned Kaokee for that reason.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Hook, line and stinker ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:02PM

> If you remove Kaokee from the line, then there is
> no one to descend from Colonel Thomas Pettus. It
> makes more sense that the truth is they have hid
> the information. Chief Powhatan was not happy
> about the union of Pocahontas Matoaka and Kaokum.
> He may have disowned Kaokee for that reason.


No one disputes that Thomas Pettus married a Native American. What is in dispute is why this woman just 'has' to be Pocahontas' daughter. All the justifications of 'hiding evidence' and 'disownment' are Secondary since those things wouldn't be there either if it just didn't happen that way at all.


All Deyo has done is posit a theory. He needs to find some DIRECT evidence to corroborate that theory before a rational person would even begin to consider it a possibility.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Smoke'm Peace Pot Pipe ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:13PM

Exactly, "Oral tribal history" Come on! Hell I can write a book and say "Oral tribal history" connects my family to some famous Indian.

Which, by the way, about 90% of those with relatives in the US before 1920 have connections to some major Indian figure or chief.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: why doesn't meade smoke ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:18PM

Between his injun heritage and his colonial virginia ancestry shouldn't smoking be kind of a natural? Or at the very least keep a few tobacco plants growing around the yard.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Real News!!! Folks!! ()
Date: December 06, 2018 05:32PM

Thomas Pettus, due to his wealth and family connections, received in 1641/42 an appointment to a life term on the King's Council of State for Virginia, and served until at least sometime after July of 1661, which establishes him as the longest serving member of the council. He is known to have had at least one wife, Elizabeth Freeman (b. c.1608), the widow of Richard Durrent, whom he married about 1638 in Jamestown when he was 39 years old.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: HeavyStart ()
Date: December 06, 2018 10:13PM

Real News!!! Folks!! Wrote:
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> Thomas Pettus, due to his wealth and family
> connections, received in 1641/42 an appointment to
> a life term on the King's Council of State for
> Virginia, and served until at least sometime after
> July of 1661, which establishes him as the longest
> serving member of the council. He is known to
> have had at least one wife, Elizabeth Freeman (b.
> c.1608), the widow of Richard Durrent, whom he
> married about 1638 in Jamestown when he was 39
> years old.



That could have been his 2nd or even 3rd wife. Many men in those days had several wives and usually young, because women often died in childbirth.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Chiefwelfare ()
Date: December 06, 2018 10:15PM

Regardless, even with this lineage, No Indian tribe would want a moocher like Meade. They want people to run casinos for them. "Me like gambling, Kemosabe!"

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: more to the point ()
Date: December 06, 2018 11:11PM

The minute this fat, pasty middle-aged white guy came up to an indian, said he too was a native, and did one of his war whoops, meade would get shot.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: Youthfulgenes ()
Date: December 06, 2018 11:20PM

more to the point Wrote:
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> The minute this fat, pasty middle-aged white guy
> came up to an indian, said he too was a native,
> and did one of his war whoops, meade would get
> shot.


Meade is not middle aged and Injuns use bows and arrows not guns.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: pocahontas in heaven ()
Date: December 06, 2018 11:44PM

We know Pocahontus in heaven always knew fucktard Meade was not one of her decendants. But no doubt she is smiling that the world knows it now too.

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Re: Meade shows his Pocahontas family tree!
Posted by: meade is middle aged. ()
Date: December 07, 2018 12:12AM

Youthfulgenes Wrote:
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>
>
>
> Meade is not middle aged and Injuns use bows and
> arrows not guns.


However, you are right on the second point. If meade let loose with one of those war whoops, some injun just might send an arrow into his skull just to enjoy a moment of irony.

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