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…WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: breitbart ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:32AM

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California builders and banks profit from fire destroyed homes (maybe that should be fixed), homeowners hate it.

But new policy is: be lax on requiring forestry and yard tending, urge homeowners NOT to water their property to prevent it from burning, and that all residents should leave their residence by GOVERNMENT ORDER all at once (creating a hellish traffic jam) or face the possibility of being arrested for staying to (protect their home with a hose).

Millenials always ask me: why the hell is the guy wetting the roof and why is California making laws against it?

(1) because it works.

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the fact is in many cases the roof catches fire first and if it's saved (the best way is not to have a wooden roof btw) - there's a good chance structure may survive fire.

(2) staying behind as a "last minute roof wetter" severely increases risk you run into flames while trying to leave town

(3) Cal fire dept is telling people that "they are threatening and killing their neighbors if they wet their roof" (i dispute this, i say this is a tool of government to threaten people legally). HOW? HOW? They say the steam from a home that does catch fire after being wetted down heads down wind and "scalds any neighbors nearby).

(a) but there aren't any neighbors near by a call to evacuate was "government threatened on the town" ?! all the republicans were arrested on some other bogus charge anyway.

(b) but a home on fire collapses, water pipes break and that will throw allot more steam than some latent water on a roof - on a home that more likely ISN'T burning because it's roof was protected.

obviously no one should require you to be on the roof with a hose - many can't do it

yet claiming those who do it have attacked their neighbors: sounds to me like powerful democrats are connected with real estate (that's SURELY TRUE) and don't like homes "saved"

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: More American Deaths, Trump FTW! ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:34AM

That's some crazy numbers on fire deaths!

They are still searching for around 200 missing people so the number will be higher.

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: to stupid millenials ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:37AM

(wasting water WTF?? millenials are so fucking stupid. you don't count a few gallons of water if your saving a house)


stupid millenials: it used to be part of advice to californians that wetting the roof was the last part of a whole strategy for helping insure your california home wasn't one of the homes damaged by brush fire*



* not conflagration - the heat of those is a different thing. the difference between brush fire and forest fire should be pretty obvious: if you live near a forest you'd KNOW THAT, if you live by rambling hills with tumble weed: you'd know it

and yes, California has spent loads of federal money on cal fire gov studies and apparently done little with the results

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: Presidential Records ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:40AM

Trump is setting a record for the most Americans killed during a presidency.

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: jjdgj ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:43AM

back in the day (say, 1980's) there were even schemes to install sprinklers on california roofs

it was short lived because cost wise: it's cheaper to install a concrete / clay tile roof

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: tyv9k ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:51AM

jjdgj Wrote:
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> back in the day (say, 1980's) there were even
> schemes to install sprinklers on california roofs

tell me if i'm wrong. but california is telling residents they will scald their neighbors "if they wet their roof and yard before leaving the area", but they are paying Canada millions (instead of Americans) to dump water on anything on fire ?

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: Sun Trust ()
Date: November 13, 2018 10:55AM

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(Wells Fargo: your home didn't burn down, we've colluded with your water company to raise rates to evict you)

For more than a month after the Thomas Fire, Ventura resident Vance Thompson couldn’t live in his Ondulando home. It didn’t burn, even as so many homes in the neighborhood did, which Thompson credits in part to being there to help put out the flames.

This week, he got his water bill. It was $544.99. It’s normally under $300.

“It’s just not right,” Thompson said. “They’re gouging the heck out of us.”

https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/communities/ventura/2018/01/26/ventura-residents-recoil-first-water-bills-since-thomas-fire/1070250001/

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: myywp ()
Date: November 13, 2018 11:36AM

myywp

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: here's a free, pd, idea ()
Date: November 13, 2018 12:00PM

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(fire) safety egress demands a width of every hallway interveining room exit, distance between buildingss, and public area size that is open space for the full body to be in after exit (public area)

5 people burned in their cars (and many cars were abandoned) because the roads were TOO FULL - very un-fortunate


perhaps California can make "traffic means of egreess" without paving them all - usable for emergency but not "added to the long toll of maintained roads to pave"

california has many areas of high population. it has earthquakes and fires: both reasons for EXTRA EGRESS not normally used

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: 97nky ()
Date: November 13, 2018 04:01PM

they advised residents they were not in violation of any "fire codes" respecting their proximity and protection to wildfire

they advised them to all leave at once onto roads that couldn't handle it which they are %100 responsible for: they accuse those who would stay longer to wet down areas for crimes - though it would have reduced traffic

On many points the "advice" does not seemed to have worked. Yet they are resolute to prosecute others.

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: correction ()
Date: November 13, 2018 04:04PM

they are %100 responsible for planning and maintaining roads, they are responsible to voters for rising traffic and traffic jams, etc. they are not %100 responsible for their unfortunate misunderstanding that all residents could not evacuate at the same time perhaps

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: Libtarded libbies ()
Date: November 13, 2018 04:10PM

Stop drop and roll....that’s what u do, other then that ur fucked

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: uxdmt ()
Date: November 14, 2018 10:13AM

Libtarded libbies Wrote:
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> Stop drop and roll....that’s what u do, other
> then that ur fucked

are you in 2nd grade or something?

it's taught in ?3rd grade to stop drop and roll IF YOU ARE ON FIRE, it doesn't say if "1/2 the fucking state is on fire"

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: y9jy7 ()
Date: November 14, 2018 03:30PM

y9jy7

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: Trump = Nero ()
Date: November 14, 2018 03:57PM

Trump = Nero

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: vnwpw ()
Date: November 15, 2018 10:40AM

vnwpw

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: cjpnu ()
Date: November 17, 2018 10:10AM

cjpnu

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Re: …WILDFIRE DEATH TOLL RISES TO 44. is california fire dept. responsible for offering BAD ADVICE?
Posted by: Attempt to GAS failed ()
Date: November 17, 2018 02:05PM

Drive your $100,000 tax payer funded Tesla's thru your burning neighborhoods. I really don't give a schit about California; they've abused other states waaaay too much. Take your rail project from one heap of ashes to another. Just don't ask for federal $$$.

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