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Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
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Date: September 08, 2018 02:08PM
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
f34we
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Date: September 08, 2018 02:14PM
We already have such an agency. It is called the NSA.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
Knower of stuff
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Date: September 08, 2018 02:21PM
f34we Wrote:
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> We already have such an agency. It is called the
> NSA.
Not exactly. NSA just collects SIGINT from perceived threats and interprets the data. They don't really "play defense". Their ability to hack other nation's databases is substantial, but they don't really have the capability to prevent such attacks on the country. It isn't really their job. That's more DHS and the FBI although as the article states, both have too broad a portfolio of responsibilities to adequately handle foreign cyber threats.
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> We already have such an agency. It is called the
> NSA.
Not exactly. NSA just collects SIGINT from perceived threats and interprets the data. They don't really "play defense". Their ability to hack other nation's databases is substantial, but they don't really have the capability to prevent such attacks on the country. It isn't really their job. That's more DHS and the FBI although as the article states, both have too broad a portfolio of responsibilities to adequately handle foreign cyber threats.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
Blue-America
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Date: September 08, 2018 04:59PM
Trump's Russian handlers would never allow this, because then they would be denied access to our democratic processes.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
JavieCoentr
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Date: June 12, 2020 02:13AM
There already are some agencies who specialize in this field. But, they deal with larger scale problems than one simple user can encounter on a daily basis. To be safe I would recommend to go through a cyber security training course, I find https://blueteam.academy/ to offer the best ones. These days it's nearly impossible to hope for a somewhat relative security on the internet without knowing the basis of cyber security. There they'll teach you about vpns, proxies and many other interesting enough things.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2020 04:36PM by JavieCoentr.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/12/2020 04:36PM by JavieCoentr.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
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Date: August 11, 2020 04:06AM
I believe that's what the NSA does.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
diane29
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Date: August 11, 2020 04:09AM
Hello! JavieCoentr has a point here, I also know about several agencies who provide the cyber security shield. I am not sure whether they are committed to the state in any way. Take fidusinfosec.com for example, they provide cyber security trainings and offer their services to the public. You find the need for such an agency unless you have a business of your own that uses the internet as the main way to sell your products. My brother works at a law firm and they also have a cyber security agency which does some kind of audit for them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2020 05:08PM by diane29.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/12/2020 05:08PM by diane29.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
Timothy75Cramer
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Date: May 18, 2021 06:20AM
Useful post, thanks a lot. Anyway, now I need to have the best security for my software, so if somebody has any idea about it, just share with me. I'll be really glad!
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
jjkk
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Date: May 18, 2021 06:42AM
I turn off my computer when I’m done. No one can break in.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
7lhcu
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Date: May 18, 2021 06:43AM
Knower of stuff Wrote:
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> f34we Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We already have such an agency. It is called
> the
> > NSA.
>
>
> Not exactly. NSA just collects SIGINT from
> perceived threats and interprets the data. They
> don't really "play defense". Their ability to hack
> other nation's databases is substantial, but they
> don't really have the capability to prevent such
> attacks on the country. It isn't really their job.
> That's more DHS and the FBI although as the
> article states, both have too broad a portfolio of
> responsibilities to adequately handle foreign
> cyber threats.
You do not know what you do not know. United States Cyber Command https://www.cybercom.mil/. Now run along and get breakfast from your mommy before she goes to work.
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> f34we Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We already have such an agency. It is called
> the
> > NSA.
>
>
> Not exactly. NSA just collects SIGINT from
> perceived threats and interprets the data. They
> don't really "play defense". Their ability to hack
> other nation's databases is substantial, but they
> don't really have the capability to prevent such
> attacks on the country. It isn't really their job.
> That's more DHS and the FBI although as the
> article states, both have too broad a portfolio of
> responsibilities to adequately handle foreign
> cyber threats.
You do not know what you do not know. United States Cyber Command https://www.cybercom.mil/. Now run along and get breakfast from your mommy before she goes to work.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
jjkk
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Date: May 18, 2021 06:49AM
Oh, SNAP!
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
libtard government
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Date: May 18, 2021 07:23AM
cyber is even worse than the "17 intelligence agencies" crap quoted by whore hillary
cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and they are some of the most clueless time and dollar wasting fucks in the history of government and THAT is saying something
sure national cyber command claims to be the head...and they probably waste the most money and time with everyone having to respond to their keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the basement and being defiled
imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even close to cyber proof
cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and they are some of the most clueless time and dollar wasting fucks in the history of government and THAT is saying something
sure national cyber command claims to be the head...and they probably waste the most money and time with everyone having to respond to their keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the basement and being defiled
imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even close to cyber proof
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
ROFL.
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Date: May 19, 2021 10:56PM
libtard government Wrote:
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> cyber is even worse than the "17 intelligence
> agencies" crap quoted by whore hillary
>
> cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and
> they are some of the most clueless time and dollar
> wasting fucks in the history of government and
> THAT is saying something
>
> sure national cyber command claims to be the
> head...and they probably waste the most money and
> time with everyone having to respond to their
> keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit
> like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
>
> cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non
> threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the
> basement and being defiled
>
> imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman
> and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state
> of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even
> close to cyber proof
That is some funny shit.
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> cyber is even worse than the "17 intelligence
> agencies" crap quoted by whore hillary
>
> cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and
> they are some of the most clueless time and dollar
> wasting fucks in the history of government and
> THAT is saying something
>
> sure national cyber command claims to be the
> head...and they probably waste the most money and
> time with everyone having to respond to their
> keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit
> like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
>
> cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non
> threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the
> basement and being defiled
>
> imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman
> and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state
> of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even
> close to cyber proof
That is some funny shit.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
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Date: May 19, 2021 11:05PM
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Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
Same same
()
Date: May 19, 2021 11:09PM
libtard government Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> cyber is even worse than the "17 intelligence
> agencies" crap quoted by whore hillary
>
> cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and
> they are some of the most clueless time and dollar
> wasting fucks in the history of government and
> THAT is saying something
>
> sure national cyber command claims to be the
> head...and they probably waste the most money and
> time with everyone having to respond to their
> keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit
> like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
>
> cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non
> threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the
> basement and being defiled
>
> imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman
> and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state
> of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even
> close to cyber proof
That is pretty much true of any organization in tech. Private sector or government. Only a handful of people really know what’s going on. The rest are just faking it till they make it. That’s just the nature of anything cyber and also software.
-------------------------------------------------------
> cyber is even worse than the "17 intelligence
> agencies" crap quoted by whore hillary
>
> cyber teams exist pretty much in any agency and
> they are some of the most clueless time and dollar
> wasting fucks in the history of government and
> THAT is saying something
>
> sure national cyber command claims to be the
> head...and they probably waste the most money and
> time with everyone having to respond to their
> keystone cop edicts which somehow never stop shit
> like snowden or the current gasline shutdown
>
> cyber loves lockdowns in response to ambiguous non
> threats meanwhile the family is tied up in the
> basement and being defiled
>
> imagine trying to build a house with 5 tradesman
> and 100 housing inspectors....that is our IT state
> of house in DOD and STILL the building is not even
> close to cyber proof
That is pretty much true of any organization in tech. Private sector or government. Only a handful of people really know what’s going on. The rest are just faking it till they make it. That’s just the nature of anything cyber and also software.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
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Date: May 19, 2021 11:13PM
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Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
libtard government
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Date: May 20, 2021 12:07AM
what is crazy is that they are very proud of keeping developers away from production systems, because they don't trust developers who probably know the most overall since they have to write the code that deals with all systems
but they give the keys to the kingdom to the cyber people who typically know the least about systems (below developers, os admins, db admins, network admins..)
and then look at what the cyber geniuses did most recently...
they approved solar winds? remote control software for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the hackers bypassed all controls through this software to get complete control of machines
another genius move is that in most agencies full government developers are given very limited access, which makes their job of debugging and development a real pain in the ass...but sysadmin contractors who are not as vetted have access to everything
and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT a govie
but they give the keys to the kingdom to the cyber people who typically know the least about systems (below developers, os admins, db admins, network admins..)
and then look at what the cyber geniuses did most recently...
they approved solar winds? remote control software for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the hackers bypassed all controls through this software to get complete control of machines
another genius move is that in most agencies full government developers are given very limited access, which makes their job of debugging and development a real pain in the ass...but sysadmin contractors who are not as vetted have access to everything
and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT a govie
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
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Date: May 20, 2021 12:10AM
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Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
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()
Date: May 20, 2021 12:32AM
libtard government Wrote:
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> what is crazy is that they are very proud of
> keeping developers away from production systems,
> because they don't trust developers who probably
> know the most overall since they have to write the
> code that deals with all systems
>
> but they give the keys to the kingdom to the cyber
> people who typically know the least about systems
> (below developers, os admins, db admins, network
> admins..)
>
> and then look at what the cyber geniuses did most
> recently...
>
> they approved solar winds? remote control software
> for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the
> hackers bypassed all controls through this
> software to get complete control of machines
>
> another genius move is that in most agencies full
> government developers are given very limited
> access, which makes their job of debugging and
> development a real pain in the ass...but sysadmin
> contractors who are not as vetted have access to
> everything
>
> and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT a
> govie
Snowden was an anomaly. Most contractors get with the program and more or less do a decent enough job. Part of the problem as you pointed out is all the hoops and unnecessary checks and balances big gov puts on the whole infrastructure which makes it harder to manage. Another problem is there just aren't enough bodies to mind all the gaps in our systems.
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> what is crazy is that they are very proud of
> keeping developers away from production systems,
> because they don't trust developers who probably
> know the most overall since they have to write the
> code that deals with all systems
>
> but they give the keys to the kingdom to the cyber
> people who typically know the least about systems
> (below developers, os admins, db admins, network
> admins..)
>
> and then look at what the cyber geniuses did most
> recently...
>
> they approved solar winds? remote control software
> for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the
> hackers bypassed all controls through this
> software to get complete control of machines
>
> another genius move is that in most agencies full
> government developers are given very limited
> access, which makes their job of debugging and
> development a real pain in the ass...but sysadmin
> contractors who are not as vetted have access to
> everything
>
> and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT a
> govie
Snowden was an anomaly. Most contractors get with the program and more or less do a decent enough job. Part of the problem as you pointed out is all the hoops and unnecessary checks and balances big gov puts on the whole infrastructure which makes it harder to manage. Another problem is there just aren't enough bodies to mind all the gaps in our systems.
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
libtard government
()
Date: May 20, 2021 08:01AM
SNAFU1 Wrote:
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> libtard government Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what is crazy is that they are very proud of
> > keeping developers away from production
> systems,
> > because they don't trust developers who
> probably
> > know the most overall since they have to write
> the
> > code that deals with all systems
> >
> > but they give the keys to the kingdom to the
> cyber
> > people who typically know the least about
> systems
> > (below developers, os admins, db admins,
> network
> > admins..)
> >
> > and then look at what the cyber geniuses did
> most
> > recently...
> >
> > they approved solar winds? remote control
> software
> > for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the
> > hackers bypassed all controls through this
> > software to get complete control of machines
> >
> > another genius move is that in most agencies
> full
> > government developers are given very limited
> > access, which makes their job of debugging and
> > development a real pain in the ass...but
> sysadmin
> > contractors who are not as vetted have access
> to
> > everything
> >
> > and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT
> a
> > govie
>
>
> Snowden was an anomaly. Most contractors get with
> the program and more or less do a decent enough
> job. Part of the problem as you pointed out is all
> the hoops and unnecessary checks and balances big
> gov puts on the whole infrastructure which makes
> it harder to manage. Another problem is there just
> aren't enough bodies to mind all the gaps in our
> systems.
never said most contractors aren't trustworthy...but snowden was a contractor
i actually agree that snowden is a legitimate whistleblower for much of the information he released and the intel agencies should do most of the dancing in the fire...but he still did cause damage too and for that he should pay
of course most contractors keep their word just like any profession...but it is the small percent that don't that cause most damage and giving keys to kingdom to individuals is not smart
have individuals with deep and wide access work on buddy teams and mix the teams up every few months would be a much better way to keep them honest
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> libtard government Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what is crazy is that they are very proud of
> > keeping developers away from production
> systems,
> > because they don't trust developers who
> probably
> > know the most overall since they have to write
> the
> > code that deals with all systems
> >
> > but they give the keys to the kingdom to the
> cyber
> > people who typically know the least about
> systems
> > (below developers, os admins, db admins,
> network
> > admins..)
> >
> > and then look at what the cyber geniuses did
> most
> > recently...
> >
> > they approved solar winds? remote control
> software
> > for computers in dod, commerce, etc...and the
> > hackers bypassed all controls through this
> > software to get complete control of machines
> >
> > another genius move is that in most agencies
> full
> > government developers are given very limited
> > access, which makes their job of debugging and
> > development a real pain in the ass...but
> sysadmin
> > contractors who are not as vetted have access
> to
> > everything
> >
> > and guess what ? snowden was a contractor NOT
> a
> > govie
>
>
> Snowden was an anomaly. Most contractors get with
> the program and more or less do a decent enough
> job. Part of the problem as you pointed out is all
> the hoops and unnecessary checks and balances big
> gov puts on the whole infrastructure which makes
> it harder to manage. Another problem is there just
> aren't enough bodies to mind all the gaps in our
> systems.
never said most contractors aren't trustworthy...but snowden was a contractor
i actually agree that snowden is a legitimate whistleblower for much of the information he released and the intel agencies should do most of the dancing in the fire...but he still did cause damage too and for that he should pay
of course most contractors keep their word just like any profession...but it is the small percent that don't that cause most damage and giving keys to kingdom to individuals is not smart
have individuals with deep and wide access work on buddy teams and mix the teams up every few months would be a much better way to keep them honest
Re: Making the case for a national cybersecurity agency
Posted by:
DIE SPAMMER!!!!!
()
Date: November 28, 2022 10:54PM
diane29 Wrote:
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> Hello! JavieCoentr has a point here, I also know
> about several agencies who provide the cyber
> security shield. I am not sure whether they are
> committed to the state in any way. Take
> [url=https://fidusinfosec.com/penetration-testing/
> mobile-and-web-application/]fidusinfosec.com[/url]
> for example, they provide cyber security trainings
> and offer their services to the public. You find
> the need for such an agency unless you have a
> business of your own that uses the internet as the
> main way to sell your products. My brother works
> at a law firm and they also have a cyber security
> agency which does some kind of audit for them.
Keep your shitty malware-infested links off this site
Eat shit and die spammer
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> Hello! JavieCoentr has a point here, I also know
> about several agencies who provide the cyber
> security shield. I am not sure whether they are
> committed to the state in any way. Take
> [url=https://fidusinfosec.com/penetration-testing/
> mobile-and-web-application/]fidusinfosec.com[/url]
> for example, they provide cyber security trainings
> and offer their services to the public. You find
> the need for such an agency unless you have a
> business of your own that uses the internet as the
> main way to sell your products. My brother works
> at a law firm and they also have a cyber security
> agency which does some kind of audit for them.
Keep your shitty malware-infested links off this site
Eat shit and die spammer