Re: 24 Hours in Gun-Controlled Chicago: 6 Fatally Shot, 10 Wounded
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You're fullofshitberry
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Date: July 15, 2018 12:40AM
I'm your Huckleberry Wrote:
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> They can never answer... Wrote:
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> > So if guns are the root of the problem, then
> why
> > don’t we see the same problem where the guns
> are
> > more available?
>
>
> It's sad that someone has to explain this to you,
> but here goes.
>
> Guns are cheaper and easier to get in rural areas
> of the country. There are far fewer people living
> in those areas, but there is still gun violence
> there (domestic, homicide and accidental).
>
> If you take the ratio of gun violence in rural
> areas with fewer people and compare it to a big
> city, where more people are crammed into a smaller
> area, you get around the same ratio of gun
> violence.
>
> The average amount of death by firearm in Chicago
> is around 20 per 100,000. Like other places, it
> has it's peaks and valleys, but it maxes out at 30
> per 100,000.
>
> Now compare that to rural places where most
> require no permit, like
> Alaska (19.8 per 100,000)
> Louisiana (19.3)
> Mississippi (17.8)
> Alabama (17.6)
>
> Even Wyoming and Montana chime in at 16.7
>
> To the drug question, which states have the worst
> Meth problems?
> South Carolina has the worst Meth problem
> ANYWHERE. It's rank for death by firearm is 15.2
> per 100,000.
> Oklahoma come next (16.5 per 100,000)
> Kentucky is third and their death by firearm rate
> is 13.7
> North Carolina is 4th with a 14 per 100,000
>
> So drugs are certainly a problem, but not the
> cause or solution to gun violence.
>
> The problem is a combination of a culture that
> glamorizes cowardly gun violence and the ease of
> getting a gun to play it out. Everything else is a
> sideshow.
>
> > And that’s false btw. Guns are subject to
> the
> > same background checks.
>
> Also not true. Most states do not require
> background check at gun shows, which is where most
> of the large quantity gun purchases are made. If
> you've ever been to one, you understand this.
First, your stats are all fucked up because you're mixing suicides (2/3rds of all gun deaths) with gun homicides. Try again.
Gun deaths in AK are +80% suicide. Same with WY and MT.
Second, your 'rural area' nonsense is nonsense since, for example, the vast majority of gun homicides in AL and LA happen in Birmingham and New Orleans. i.e., Urban, not 'rural areas.'
What "permit" are talking about?
Your meth bullshit tangent I'm not even going to bother with.
Any time anyone talks about the dumb "gun show loophole" then you automatically know that they're just babbling talking points. Requirements at gun shows, no matter where they are, are no different than anywhere else. If you understood the law, understood the illegal gun trade, and had actually ever been to a gun show, then you'd understand why they clearly are not where "most of the large quantity gun purchases are made."
And your premise is bullshit to begin with. Do you know where by far the largest number of illegal guns in Chicago come from? Cook County, IL (surburban Chicago). Next would be elsewhere in IL.