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Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: showme state ()
Date: June 18, 2018 08:30PM

Laws are written down - when will a Trumptard actually find the law and quote it? Should be pretty simple no? 'LAW 429 - lock em all up' just point me to the law please or admit you are just simple scumbags.

thanks

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Beanie Babies ()
Date: June 18, 2018 08:44PM

showme state Wrote: https://youtu.be/gDONYHOom4I
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> Laws are written down - when will a Trumptard
> actually find the law and quote it? Should be
> pretty simple no? 'LAW 429 - lock em all up'
> just point me to the law please or admit you are
> just simple scumbags.
>
> thanks

What's you plan for all the illegal kids? I do feel bad for the little savages.
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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Lthct ()
Date: June 18, 2018 08:53PM

Children are not held in adult detention. Not under trump or obama.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Cjuwp ()
Date: June 18, 2018 08:55PM

The number of undocumented children being held without their parents in U.S. government custody has seen a 21 percent increase in the past month after the Trump administration announced its "zero tolerance" crackdown on families caught crossing the border illegally.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: noone can cite the law?????? ()
Date: June 18, 2018 09:19PM

no one can cite the law huh? If its a law its written down and recorded - where is it Trump supporters?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Spick Babies ()
Date: June 18, 2018 09:27PM

noone can cite the law?????? Wrote:
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> no one can cite the law huh? If its a law its
> written down and recorded - where is it Trump
> supporters?

What should America do with the Spick babies?
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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: found it ()
Date: June 18, 2018 11:15PM

"To be clear, there is no official Trump policy stating that every family entering the US without papers has to be separated. What there is is a policy that all adults caught crossing into the US illegally are supposed to be criminally prosecuted — and when that happens to a parent, separation is inevitable.

Typically, people apprehended crossing into the US are held in immigration detention and sent before an immigration judge to see if they will be deported as unauthorized immigrants.
But migrants who’ve been referred for criminal prosecution get sent to a federal jail and brought before a federal judge a few weeks later to see if they’ll get prison time. That’s where the separation happens — because you can’t be kept with your children in federal jail."

This is from VOX - very left leaning.

Even they are smart enough to understand that the ACT of BREAKING THE LAW by illegally crossing the border results in prosecution. It is the ILLEGAL PARENTS fault if they bring any children.

It is simply applying existing laws that have been there for decades.

It is one of the reasons Trump was elected - to actually enforce our laws.

ONLY the MSM is saying there is an actual WRITTEN DOWN LAW that READS that children and parents are to be separated.

People with common sense realize they are full of shit - just like the Trump said ALL illegal immigrants are animals.

So OP - educate yourself before asking for someone to cite a non existing law or call MSM and ask why they keep saying that Trump enacted one.

Again - "To be clear, there is no official Trump policy stating that every family entering the US without papers has to be separated."

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/children-immigrant-families-separated-parents

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Inconvenient for libshits ()
Date: June 18, 2018 11:17PM

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: perrymason ()
Date: June 18, 2018 11:43PM

Right here!
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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: OP is a Failure ()
Date: June 19, 2018 01:05AM

showme state Wrote:
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> Laws are written down - when will a Trumptard
> actually find the law and quote it? Should be
> pretty simple no? 'LAW 429 - lock em all up'
> just point me to the law please or admit you are
> just simple scumbags.
>
> thanks

^ just Gerry getting his ass handed to him as always. Move on...

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: 9lvxx ()
Date: June 19, 2018 07:01AM

perrymason Wrote:
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> Right here!


Yep, that law says......."UNACCOMPANIED" meaning the kid isn't with their parent or guardian. It doesn't say "ACCOMPANIED" with their parent or guardian.

You sir win the JACKASS award that gets awarded to you by Eesh.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Seeing what they want ()
Date: June 19, 2018 07:57AM

9lvxx Wrote:
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> perrymason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right here!
>
>
> Yep, that law says......."UNACCOMPANIED" meaning
> the kid isn't with their parent or guardian. It
> doesn't say "ACCOMPANIED" with their parent or
> guardian.
>
> You sir win the JACKASS award that gets awarded to
> you by Eesh.


Exactly.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Lmtmg ()
Date: June 19, 2018 08:09AM

It says right there no parent or no parent able to provide care or custody. Really, this is not at all complicated. Where's the law that says kids dont go to jail with their parents when their parent is arrested for DUI or shoplifting?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Akkef ()
Date: June 19, 2018 08:12AM

No one wants to separate families, thing is, America’s Immigration has gotten way out of hand, out of control. How many more illegals, immigrants and criminals must our people take care of, while the Democrats milk them for votes?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: hkjyf ()
Date: June 19, 2018 08:18AM

Akkef Wrote:
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> No one wants to separate families, thing is,
> America’s Immigration has gotten way out of
> hand, out of control. How many more illegals,
> immigrants and criminals must our people take care
> of, while the Democrats milk them for votes?

Exactly true!

Keep them all together once they arrive. Get whatever information about them you can then just pack them up and send them back over the border.

Unfortunately the U.S. is too weak and decadent on how to handle criminals along with all the bleeding-ass liberals.

I'm more than certain there is an organization that is fueling the immigrants to come here illegally. If true, those motherfuckers need to be shot dead!

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Lol@libtardsallday ()
Date: June 19, 2018 08:44AM

Democrat policies hate children and families. Why so shocked?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Let them eat churros! ()
Date: June 19, 2018 11:15AM

Can’t wait to see home prices skyrocket when these illegals scramble to leave or get detained and deported!
Remember how manassas got so much better when we started to enforce federal law?
Every traffic stop they were asked about their status!
Because home prices will increase, SJW liberals will back this measure, and such the fuck up!

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: jklux ()
Date: June 19, 2018 11:46AM

Let them eat churros! Wrote:
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> Can’t wait to see home prices skyrocket when
> these illegals scramble to leave or get detained
> and deported!
> Remember how manassas got so much better when we
> started to enforce federal law?
> Every traffic stop they were asked about their
> status!
> Because home prices will increase, SJW liberals
> will back this measure, and such the fuck up!


How and when did Manassas ever get better?!?!?!?!?

That place is a fucking shithole, PERIOD!

I still have to go through that area and once in awhile go to a store there and there are still the fucking wetbacks all over the place!

AGAIN, WHEN DID THAT SHITHOLE EVER GET BETTER?!?!?!?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Public Law 107-296 FAIL ()
Date: June 19, 2018 12:54PM

perrymason Wrote:
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> Right here!

Nope

1. Public Law 107-296 was passed Nov 25, 2002 by a Republican Majority Congress The bill’s sponsor was Rep. Richard Armey of Texas (a Republican). The bill had 118 co-sponsors, of whom 114 were Republicans and four were Democrats. Neither metric (majority or bill sponsors) indicated the bill was passed “by Democrats.”

2. The law references 'unaccompanied minors' thus cannot dictate any separation of children from parent you fucking idiot.

Subtitle E of Public Law 107-296 (establishing the Department of Homeland Security, DHS) placed immigration and related functions in the scope of the newly established agency. Section G of Subtitle E defined the term “unaccompanied alien child” as a minor under the age of 18, lacking lawful immigration status in the US, and primarily, an individual for whom “there is no parent or legal guardian in the United States” or “no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.” This did not mandate that children be separated from their families, but instead, created a legal classification for children with no parent or guardian present or for whom no parent or legal guardian was available to provide care and custody.

3. Your cute little Facebook meme is just another lie by dolts like you. Youre just a shit stain spreading bullshit

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: not that hard, unless you're a D ()
Date: June 19, 2018 01:50PM

9lvxx Wrote:
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> perrymason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right here!
>
>
> Yep, that law says......."UNACCOMPANIED" meaning
> the kid isn't with their parent or guardian. It
> doesn't say "ACCOMPANIED" with their parent or
> guardian.
>
> You sir win the JACKASS award that gets awarded to
> you by Eesh.


They become unaccompanied when their parents, who is a criminal law breaker, is thrown in jail. Get it?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Quick comment ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:08PM

not that hard, unless you're a D Wrote:
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> 9lvxx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > perrymason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Right here!
> >
> >
> > Yep, that law says......."UNACCOMPANIED"
> meaning
> > the kid isn't with their parent or guardian.
> It
> > doesn't say "ACCOMPANIED" with their parent or
> > guardian.
> >
> > You sir win the JACKASS award that gets awarded
> to
> > you by Eesh.
>
>
> They become unaccompanied when their parents, who
> is a criminal law breaker, is thrown in jail. Get
> it?


Not the law you poor dumb animal.


Subtitle E of Public Law 107-296 (establishing the Department of Homeland Security, DHS) placed immigration and related functions in the scope of the newly established agency. Section G of Subtitle E defined the term “unaccompanied alien child” as a minor under the age of 18, lacking lawful immigration status in the US, and primarily, an individual for whom “there is no parent or legal guardian in the United States” or “no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.” This did not mandate that children be separated from their families, but instead, created a legal classification for children with no parent or guardian present or for whom no parent or legal guardian was available to provide care and custody.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:18PM

Trump is desperate. A coward. And midterms are coming. So he thinks punishing and scarring children for life, some of which have lost their parents altogether because of Trump, is the pathway forward.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: yup, you're dumb D ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:21PM

Quick comment Wrote:
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> not that hard, unless you're a D Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 9lvxx Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > perrymason Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Right here!
> > >
> > >
> > > Yep, that law says......."UNACCOMPANIED"
> > meaning
> > > the kid isn't with their parent or guardian.
> > It
> > > doesn't say "ACCOMPANIED" with their parent
> or
> > > guardian.
> > >
> > > You sir win the JACKASS award that gets
> awarded
> > to
> > > you by Eesh.
> >
> >
> > They become unaccompanied when their parents,
> who
> > is a criminal law breaker, is thrown in jail.
> Get
> > it?

>
> Not the law you poor dumb animal.
>
>
> Subtitle E of Public Law 107-296 (establishing
> the Department of Homeland Security, DHS) placed
> immigration and related functions in the scope of
> the newly established agency. Section G of
> Subtitle E defined the term “unaccompanied alien
> child” as a minor under the age of 18, lacking
> lawful immigration status in the US, and
> primarily, an individual for whom “there is no
> parent or legal guardian in the United States”
> or “no parent or legal guardian in the United
> States is available to provide care and physical
> custody.” This did not mandate that children be
> separated from their families, but instead,
> created a legal classification for children with
> no parent or guardian present or for whom no
> parent or legal guardian was available to provide
> care and custody.

>
> this is
> you>



OK, let's walk it through step by step as you seem too stupid to get there on your own.

1. Parent and child walk across border illegally. Can the parent be arrested for walking across the border? Yes or No.

For a hint, see 8 USC 1325.

2. Is a parent in prison available to provide care and physical custody? Yes or No.

3. Once the parent is lawfully arrested, placed into custody, and unavailable to provide care or physical custody, who is accompanying the child?

Waiting.....

4. So, at that point, is the minor unaccompanied now?

Do you get it yet?

Seeing you're a brainless moron, it's doubtful you get it.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: You Fail Again ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:27PM

^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated in the law as and entering condition not the result of arrest of the parents. You fail yet again. I can see rationalizing the separation of small children and babies from their parents is very important to you though.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:29PM

Guatemalan mother has filed suit to get her son back.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: still no validanswer by trumpers ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:40PM

During its first 15 months, the Trump administration released nearly 100,000 immigrants who were apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border, a total that includes more than 37,500 unaccompanied minors and more than 61,000 family members.

Now all of a sudden they claim there is a 'law' forcing them to separate kids from moms.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: still a dumb D ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:43PM

You Fail Again Wrote:
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> ^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated in the
> law as and entering condition not the result of
> arrest of the parents.

Whatever you are attempting to say is wrong. How they got here (parent or no parent) is irrelevant. Once the parent is unavailable to provide care or physical custody, the child becomes unaccompanied. It's no different than if a mother and daughter go into a store and the mom shoplifts and gets herself arrested. Once she's arrested, the daughter is unaccompanied and turned over to child services.

Here's what the law states:

(2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a child
who--
(A) has no lawful immigration status in the United
States;
(B) has not attained 18 years of age; and
(C) with respect to whom--
(i) there is no parent or legal guardian in
the United States; or
(ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United
States is available to provide care and physical
custody.


Which section indicates that the status must be "entering condition not the result of arrest of the parents[sic]"?

> You fail yet again. I can
> see rationalizing the separation of small children
> and babies from their parents is very important to
> you though.

The rule of law is important to me which I see you give two shits about. If you don't want to be separated from your kid, don't commit a crime. It applies to US Citizens and illegal border crossers alike.

Does it hurt when you try to think?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Keep trying its funny ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:50PM

still a dumb D Wrote:
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> You Fail Again Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated in
> the
> > law as and entering condition not the result of
> > arrest of the parents.
>
> Whatever you are attempting to say is wrong. How
> they got here (parent or no parent) is irrelevant.
> Once the parent is unavailable to provide care or
> physical custody, the child becomes unaccompanied.
> It's no different than if a mother and daughter
> go into a store and the mom shoplifts and gets
> herself arrested. Once she's arrested, the
> daughter is unaccompanied and turned over to child
> services.
>
> Here's what the law states:
>
> (2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a
> child
> who--
> (A) has no lawful immigration
> status in the United
> States;
> (B) has not attained 18 years
> of age; and
> (C) with respect to whom--
> (i) there is no parent
> or legal guardian in
> the United States; or
> (ii) no parent or legal
> guardian in the United
> States is available to
> provide care and physical
> custody.
>
>
> Which section indicates that the status must be
> "entering condition not the result of arrest of
> the parents[sic]"?
>
> > You fail yet again. I can
> > see rationalizing the separation of small
> children
> > and babies from their parents is very important
> to
> > you though.
>
> The rule of law is important to me which I see you
> give two shits about. If you don't want to be
> separated from your kid, don't commit a crime. It
> applies to US Citizens and illegal border crossers
> alike.
>
> Does it hurt when you try to think?

Nope -still not true. The law is entirely framed around the arriving condition of the minors. So you can say Mt. Everest is a Ham Sandwich but that doesnt make it true no matter how many times you repeat the fallacy. Tearing small children from parents arms is very important to you - I can see that.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: still a dumb D ()
Date: June 19, 2018 02:59PM

Keep trying its funny Wrote:
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> still a dumb D Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You Fail Again Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated in
> > the
> > > law as and entering condition not the result
> of
> > > arrest of the parents.
> >
> > Whatever you are attempting to say is wrong.
> How
> > they got here (parent or no parent) is
> irrelevant.
> > Once the parent is unavailable to provide care
> or
> > physical custody, the child becomes
> unaccompanied.
> > It's no different than if a mother and
> daughter
> > go into a store and the mom shoplifts and gets
> > herself arrested. Once she's arrested, the
> > daughter is unaccompanied and turned over to
> child
> > services.
> >
> > Here's what the law states:
> >
> > (2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means
> a
> > child
> > who--
> > (A) has no lawful
> immigration
> > status in the United
> > States;
> > (B) has not attained 18
> years
> > of age; and
> > (C) with respect to whom--
> > (i) there is no
> parent
> > or legal guardian in
> > the United States; or
> > (ii) no parent or
> legal
> > guardian in the United
> > States is available to
> > provide care and physical
> > custody.
> >
> >
> > Which section indicates that the status must be
> > "entering condition not the result of arrest of
> > the parents[sic]"?
> >
> > > You fail yet again. I can
> > > see rationalizing the separation of small
> > children
> > > and babies from their parents is very
> important
> > to
> > > you though.
> >
> > The rule of law is important to me which I see
> you
> > give two shits about. If you don't want to be
> > separated from your kid, don't commit a crime.
> It
> > applies to US Citizens and illegal border
> crossers
> > alike.
> >
> > Does it hurt when you try to think?
>
> Nope -still not true. The law is entirely
> framed around the arriving condition of the
> minors.

You can keep lying, but it doesn't make it true. The statute is in front of you. Which section of the definition indicates the "arriving condition of the minors" is relevant?

Do you want the whole statute section? I can cut and paste that, but we both know that you'll simply respond with a picture because that's all you have left. You're too dumb to understand this.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: lol you keep failing, its funny ()
Date: June 19, 2018 03:17PM

still a dumb D Wrote:
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> Keep trying its funny Wrote:
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> -----
> > still a dumb D Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You Fail Again Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > ^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated
> in
> > > the
> > > > law as and entering condition not the
> result
> > of
> > > > arrest of the parents.
> > >
> > > Whatever you are attempting to say is wrong.
> > How
> > > they got here (parent or no parent) is
> > irrelevant.
> > > Once the parent is unavailable to provide
> care
> > or
> > > physical custody, the child becomes
> > unaccompanied.
> > > It's no different than if a mother and
> > daughter
> > > go into a store and the mom shoplifts and
> gets
> > > herself arrested. Once she's arrested, the
> > > daughter is unaccompanied and turned over to
> > child
> > > services.
> > >
> > > Here's what the law states:
> > >
> > > (2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child''
> means
> > a
> > > child
> > > who--
> > > (A) has no lawful
> > immigration
> > > status in the United
> > > States;
> > > (B) has not attained 18
> > years
> > > of age; and
> > > (C) with respect to
> whom--
> > > (i) there is no
> > parent
> > > or legal guardian in
> > > the United States; or
> > > (ii) no parent or
> > legal
> > > guardian in the United
> > > States is available to
> > > provide care and physical
> > > custody.
> > >
> > >
> > > Which section indicates that the status must
> be
> > > "entering condition not the result of arrest
> of
> > > the parents[sic]"?
> > >
> > > > You fail yet again. I can
> > > > see rationalizing the separation of small
> > > children
> > > > and babies from their parents is very
> > important
> > > to
> > > > you though.
> > >
> > > The rule of law is important to me which I
> see
> > you
> > > give two shits about. If you don't want to
> be
> > > separated from your kid, don't commit a crime.
>
> > It
> > > applies to US Citizens and illegal border
> > crossers
> > > alike.
> > >
> > > Does it hurt when you try to think?
> >
> > Nope -still not true. The law is
> entirely
> > framed around the arriving condition of the
> > minors.
>
> You can keep lying, but it doesn't make it true.
> The statute is in front of you. Which section of
> the definition indicates the "arriving condition
> of the minors" is relevant?
>
> Do you want the whole statute section? I can cut
> and paste that, but we both know that you'll
> simply respond with a picture because that's all
> you have left. You're too dumb to understand
> this.

You 'Mt. Everest is a Ham Sandwich' (repeat until true...)

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: answer the questions ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:08PM

lol you keep failing, its funny Wrote:
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> still a dumb D Wrote:
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> -----
> > Keep trying its funny Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > still a dumb D Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You Fail Again Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > ^ Nope the term 'unaccompanied' is stated
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > law as and entering condition not the
> > result
> > > of
> > > > > arrest of the parents.
> > > >
> > > > Whatever you are attempting to say is wrong.
>
> > > How
> > > > they got here (parent or no parent) is
> > > irrelevant.
> > > > Once the parent is unavailable to provide
> > care
> > > or
> > > > physical custody, the child becomes
> > > unaccompanied.
> > > > It's no different than if a mother and
> > > daughter
> > > > go into a store and the mom shoplifts and
> > gets
> > > > herself arrested. Once she's arrested, the
> > > > daughter is unaccompanied and turned over
> to
> > > child
> > > > services.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what the law states:
> > > >
> > > > (2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child''
> > means
> > > a
> > > > child
> > > > who--
> > > > (A) has no lawful
> > > immigration
> > > > status in the United
> > > > States;
> > > > (B) has not attained 18
> > > years
> > > > of age; and
> > > > (C) with respect to
> > whom--
> > > > (i) there is no
> > > parent
> > > > or legal guardian in
> > > > the United States; or
> > > > (ii) no parent or
> > > legal
> > > > guardian in the United
> > > > States is available
> to
> > > > provide care and physical
> > > > custody.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Which section indicates that the status
> must
> > be
> > > > "entering condition not the result of
> arrest
> > of
> > > > the parents[sic]"?
> > > >
> > > > > You fail yet again. I can
> > > > > see rationalizing the separation of small
> > > > children
> > > > > and babies from their parents is very
> > > important
> > > > to
> > > > > you though.
> > > >
> > > > The rule of law is important to me which I
> > see
> > > you
> > > > give two shits about. If you don't want to
> > be
> > > > separated from your kid, don't commit a
> crime.
> >
> > > It
> > > > applies to US Citizens and illegal border
> > > crossers
> > > > alike.
> > > >
> > > > Does it hurt when you try to think?
> > >
> > > Nope -still not true. The law is
> > entirely
> > > framed around the arriving condition of the
> > > minors.
> >
> > You can keep lying, but it doesn't make it true.
>
> > The statute is in front of you. Which section
> of
> > the definition indicates the "arriving
> condition
> > of the minors" is relevant?
> >
> > Do you want the whole statute section? I can
> cut
> > and paste that, but we both know that you'll
> > simply respond with a picture because that's
> all
> > you have left. You're too dumb to understand
> > this.
>
> You 'Mt. Everest is a Ham Sandwich' (repeat until
> true...)

LOL. You actually just described yourself.

Here's what the law states:

(2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a child
who--
(A) has no lawful immigration status in the United
States;
(B) has not attained 18 years of age; and
(C) with respect to whom--
(i) there is no parent or legal guardian in
the United States; or
(ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United
States is available to provide care and physical
custody.

Which section of that law limits it to children who arrived without their parents? Why can't you answer that question?


Are you saying that if both crossed together, but then mom ran off from the kid, the kid would not be an unaccompanied minor?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: no mention of arriving condition ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:11PM

Just going to leave this hear for our local dumbass......


(1) In general.--Pursuant to the transfer made by subsection
(a), the Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement shall be
responsible for--

[[Page 116 STAT. 2203]]

(A) coordinating and implementing the care and
placement of unaccompanied alien children who are in
Federal custody by reason of their immigration status,
including developing a plan to be submitted to Congress
on how to ensure that qualified and independent legal
counsel is timely appointed to represent the interests
of each such child, consistent with the law regarding
appointment of counsel that is in effect on the date of
the enactment of this Act;
(B) ensuring that the interests of the child are
considered in decisions and actions relating to the care
and custody of an unaccompanied alien child;
(C) making placement determinations for all
unaccompanied alien children who are in Federal custody
by reason of their immigration status;
(D) implementing the placement determinations;
(E) implementing policies with respect to the care
and placement of unaccompanied alien children;
(F) identifying a sufficient number of qualified
individuals, entities, and facilities to house
unaccompanied alien children;
(G) overseeing the infrastructure and personnel of
facilities in which unaccompanied alien children reside;
(H) reuniting unaccompanied alien children with a
parent abroad in appropriate cases;
(I) compiling, updating, and publishing at least
annually a state-by-state list of professionals or other
entities qualified to provide guardian and attorney
representation services for unaccompanied alien
children;
(J) maintaining statistical information and other
data on unaccompanied alien children for whose care and
placement the Director is responsible, which shall
include--
(i) biographical information, such as a
child's name, gender, date of birth, country of
birth, and country of habitual residence;
(ii) the date on which the child came into
Federal custody by reason of his or her
immigration status;
(iii) information relating to the child's
placement, removal, or release from each facility
in which the child has resided;
(iv) in any case in which the child is placed
in detention or released, an explanation relating
to the detention or release; and
(v) the disposition of any actions in which
the child is the subject;
(K) collecting and compiling statistical information
from the Department of Justice, the Department of
Homeland Security, and the Department of State on each
department's actions relating to unaccompanied alien
children; and
(L) conducting investigations and inspections of
facilities and other entities in which unaccompanied
alien children reside.
(2) Coordination with other entities; no release on own
recognizance.--In making determinations described in paragraph
(1)(C), the Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement--

[[Page 116 STAT. 2204]]

(A) shall consult with appropriate juvenile justice
professionals, the Director of the Bureau of Citizenship
and Immigration Services, and the Assistant Secretary of
the Bureau of Border Security to ensure that such
determinations ensure that unaccompanied alien children
described in such subparagraph--
(i) are likely to appear for all hearings or
proceedings in which they are involved;
(ii) are protected from smugglers,
traffickers, or others who might seek to victimize
or otherwise engage them in criminal, harmful, or
exploitive activity; and
(iii) are placed in a setting in which they
are not likely to pose a danger to themselves or
others; and
(B) shall not release such children upon their own
recognizance.
(3) Duties with respect to foster care.--In carrying out the
duties described in paragraph (1)(G), the Director of the Office
of Refugee Resettlement is encouraged to use the refugee
children foster care system established pursuant to section
412(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1522(d))
for the placement of unaccompanied alien children.

(c) Rule of Construction.--Nothing in this section may be construed
to transfer the responsibility for adjudicating benefit determinations
under the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.) from
the authority of any official of the Department of Justice, the
Department of Homeland Security, or the Department of State.
(d) Effective Date.--Notwithstanding section 4, this section shall
take effect on the date on which the transfer of functions specified
under section 441 takes effect.
(e) References.--With respect to any function transferred by this
section, any reference in any other Federal law, Executive order, rule,
regulation, or delegation of authority, or any document of or pertaining
to a component of government from which such function is transferred--
(1) to the head of such component is deemed to refer to the
Director of the Office of Refugee Resettlement; or
(2) to such component is deemed to refer to the Office of
Refugee Resettlement of the Department of Health and Human
Services.

(f) Other Transition Issues.--
(1) Exercise of authorities.--Except as otherwise provided
by law, a Federal official to whom a function is transferred by
this section may, for purposes of performing the function,
exercise all authorities under any other provision of law that
were available with respect to the performance of that function
to the official responsible for the performance of the function
immediately before the effective date specified in subsection
(d).
(2) Savings provisions.--Subsections (a), (b), and (c) of
section 1512 shall apply to a transfer of functions under this
section in the same manner as such provisions apply to a
transfer of functions under this Act to the Department of
Homeland Security.
(3) Transfer and allocation of appropriations and
personnel.--The personnel of the Department of Justice employed

[[Page 116 STAT. 2205]]

in connection with the functions transferred by this section,
and the assets, liabilities, contracts, property, records, and
unexpended balance of appropriations, authorizations,
allocations, and other funds employed, held, used, arising from,
available to, or to be made available to, the Immigration and
Naturalization Service in connection with the functions
transferred by this section, subject to section 202 of the
Budget and Accounting Procedures Act of 1950, shall be
transferred to the Director of the Office of Refugee
Resettlement for allocation to the appropriate component of the
Department of Health and Human Services. Unexpended funds
transferred pursuant to this paragraph shall be used only for
the purposes for which the funds were originally authorized and
appropriated.

(g) Definitions.--As used in this section--
(1) the term ``placement'' means the placement of an
unaccompanied alien child in either a detention facility or an
alternative to such a facility; and
(2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a child
who--
(A) has no lawful immigration status in the United
States;
(B) has not attained 18 years of age; and
(C) with respect to whom--
(i) there is no parent or legal guardian in
the United States; or
(ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United
States is available to provide care and physical
custody.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: keep trying this is hilarious! ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:15PM

^ You: 'What if aliens came down and turned Mt. Everest into a Ham Sandwich - then it would be a Ham Sandwich!'




this is you

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: can you name the section yet? ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:25PM

keep trying this is hilarious! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ You: 'What if aliens came down and
> turned Mt. Everest into a Ham Sandwich - then it
> would be a Ham Sandwich!'


It is funny. Mocking your stupidity probably won't get old. Want to try to not be stupid?

Here's what the law states:

(2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a child
who--
(A) has no lawful immigration status in the United
States;
(B) has not attained 18 years of age; and
(C) with respect to whom--
(i) there is no parent or legal guardian in
the United States; or
(ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United
States is available to provide care and physical
custody.

Which section of that law limits it to children who arrived without their parents?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Keep going you're making my day! ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:35PM

^ You: 'When I murder the parents of children the children have to go to an orphanage - ITS THE LAW!'

this is you>

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: ur stupidity made mine hours ago ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:42PM

Keep going you're making my day! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ You: 'When I murder the parents of
> children the children have to go to an orphanage -
> ITS THE LAW!'

>

YOU: When the parent goes to jail, the kid is still accompanied. IT'S THE LAW


Here's what the law states:

(2) the term ``unaccompanied alien child'' means a child
who--
(A) has no lawful immigration status in the United
States;
(B) has not attained 18 years of age; and
(C) with respect to whom--
(i) there is no parent or legal guardian in
the United States; or
(ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United
States is available to provide care and physical
custody.

Which section of that law limits it to children who arrived without their parents?

Keep ducking the question. Not only does it prove you're an idiot, but a pussy too! LOL! C'mon ya big dumb pussy! I know "words is hard" for you but try!

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: President Trump FTW! ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:49PM

So if a serial killer has children and gets sentenced to death the kids should be murdered too.

That's lib logic.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Title of the thread - no answer ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:55PM

Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children?


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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: answer the questions ()
Date: June 19, 2018 04:59PM

Title of the thread - no answer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate
> Children?


Asked and answered, dope. So sorry that you're too stupid to get it.


To recap, let's walk it through step by step as you seem too stupid to get there on your own.

1. Parent and child walk across border illegally. Can the parent be arrested for walking across the border? Yes or No.

For a hint, see 8 USC 1325.

2. Is a parent in prison available to provide care and physical custody? Yes or No.

3. Once the parent is lawfully arrested, placed into custody, and unavailable to provide care or physical custody, who is accompanying the child?

Waiting.....

4. So, at that point, is the minor unaccompanied now?

Can you answer any of these questions?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: I Need Milk!!!!! ()
Date: June 19, 2018 05:03PM


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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: GUEGD ()
Date: June 19, 2018 05:10PM

Title of the thread - no answer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate
> Children?

>
>


I can answer that - there is no law saying US Border Agents or other US law enforcement must place under arrest persons crossing the border without proper documentation including and especially adults accompanied by their own children. No such law exists. This is why under President George W. Bush and President Obama the latitude of discretion was taken not to incarcerate parents while with their own children but rather focus on incarcerating dangerous persons such as suspected gang members, drug dealers and traffickers.

Since January 25, 2017 however President Trump issued an executive order (Executive Order: Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements)promoting a 'zero tolerance' policy whereby any persons entering the US without proper documentation were to be arrested and criminally charged regardless of any extenuating circumstances. You can read it here https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-border-security-immigration-enforcement-improvements/

ANSWER TO THREAD - THERE IS NO SUCH LAW.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: all legal ()
Date: June 19, 2018 05:17PM

GUEGD Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Title of the thread - no answer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where is The Law that Says We Have To
> Separate
> > Children?

> >
> >
>
>
>
> I can answer that - there is no law saying US
> Border Agents or other US law enforcement must
> place under arrest persons crossing the border
> without proper documentation including and
> especially adults accompanied by their own
> children. No such law exists. This is why under
> President George W. Bush and President Obama the
> latitude of discretion was taken not to
> incarcerate parents while with their own children
> but rather focus on incarcerating dangerous
> persons such as suspected gang members, drug
> dealers and traffickers.
>
> Since January 25, 2017 however President Trump
> issued an executive order (Executive Order: Border
> Security and Immigration Enforcement
> Improvements)promoting a 'zero tolerance' policy
> whereby any persons entering the US without proper
> documentation were to be arrested and criminally
> charged regardless of any extenuating
> circumstances. You can read it here
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/ex
> ecutive-order-border-security-immigration-enforcem
> ent-improvements/
>
> ANSWER TO THREAD - THERE IS NO SUCH LAW.

If you arrest the parent (which is perfectly legal), where do you put the kid?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: 7TTKU ()
Date: June 19, 2018 05:27PM

all legal Wrote:

> If you arrest the parent (which is perfectly
> legal), where do you put the kid?



The title of this thread is: "Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children?"

Your answer: If you arrest the parent (which is perfectly legal), where do you put the kid?


Sounds like a mildly interesting topic why not start another thread with your question?

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Baby Huey ()
Date: June 19, 2018 06:16PM

If they have a kid we have to give them all amnesty. If they don't have a kid, we have to give them all amnesty too. As well as any relatives they have back home. It's the only thing that can stop the libs from crying.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: still no law cited ()
Date: June 19, 2018 08:01PM

epic take-down of the kid abuser advocate. So where is the law that says we have to separate Children from parents? I think I missed that among all the deflection about what to do with them after they are separated.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Melania moving out ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:01AM

crickets - no law requires us to take babies away from moms. Its just Trumps horror show for no real reason.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Libshit fake news ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:04AM

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Coo cooo ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:08AM

still no law cited Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> epic take-down of the kid abuser advocate. So
> where is the law that says we have to separate
> Children from parents? I think I missed that
> among all the deflection about what to do with
> them after they are separated.

You are poo poo coo coo.

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Kinder Kennels TM ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:12AM

lol Trump calls the places he is dumping babies torn from their mothers arms 'Tender Age Facilities.' Why dont we just use them as chum for commercial fishing or fill for potholes? Trump what a kidder

Also this is totally optional there are no laws requiring us to take babies from moms and put them in Kinder Kennels TM

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Doo Doo ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:14AM

Kinder Kennels TM Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> lol Trump calls the places he is dumping babies
> torn from their mothers arms 'Tender Age
> Facilities.' Why dont we just use them as chum
> for commercial fishing or fill for potholes?
> Trump what a kidder
>
> Also this is totally optional there are no laws
> requiring us to take babies from moms and put them
> in Kinder Kennels TM

^ Coo Coo poo poo doo doo!!

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Tender Barron Trump ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:15AM

Lets put Barron in a small cage - I hear he bites!

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Re: Where is The Law that Says We Have To Separate Children
Posted by: Coo coo poo ()
Date: June 20, 2018 12:16AM

Tender Barron Trump Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Lets put Barron in a small cage - I hear he
> bites!

^ coo coo poo doo poo

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