I always thought the guy was a pretentious prick, but that doesn't mean I want to see him die of "the cancer."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/08/bryant.gumbel.lung.cancer/index.html

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Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: Bob Evan ()
Date: December 07, 2009 05:59PM


A Hispanic male robbed the Bob Evans off rt 123 Sunday night. He was wearing a grey hoody, surgical gloves and a black mask. Police arrived about 10 minutes later. Canine and Helicopter did not locate any possible suspects.

The robber had possible cuts on his hands. The cash amount of the take was estimated to be $10,000. It is thought that robber had knowledge of the back room area of the Bob Evans.


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: jah ()
Date: December 08, 2009 09:11AM


Seems like you already know more than the police.

[www.fairfaxcounty.gov]


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: Bob Evans ()
Date: December 08, 2009 09:55AM


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> Seems like you already know more than the police.
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> [www.fairfaxcounty.gov]
> 2009/120709robbobevans.htm

We see all and know all. Police stopped three Hispanic males but after closer investigation they did not fit the description.

The fact that the person knew the backroom probably leads to a connection with an employee.


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:04AM


$10,000 from a Bob Evans? Definitely an inside job.

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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: ja ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:11AM


Did you get this from listening to the scanner?


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: Ohsee ()
Date: December 08, 2009 11:41AM


I wonder what the get away path was? Get on I66? Have a getaway driver? Live in place nearby and get rid of your disguise before running home?

You wouldn't want to take 123 because there are too many lights and too much traffic.


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: December 08, 2009 12:18PM


Why would anybody rob a Bob Evans?


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 08, 2009 12:25PM


KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Why would anybody rob a Bob Evans?

For $10,000, I'd rob Bob Evans.

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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: Ruth Chris ()
Date: December 08, 2009 12:26PM


Maybe Bob Evans will rethink the wisdom of hiring from the ADC day-release program.


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: FAIRFAX COUNTYS MASTER OF METAL ()
Date: December 08, 2009 12:30PM









Hispanic male?

Well that really narrows it down.

Last time I checked, the term Hispanic could mean several different things.

There are many different types of people who could fall fit into the Hispanic category.

Paul Gasol a whitey

Sammy Sosa a darkie

George Lopez a beaner

So please be more specific.

What kind of Hispanic was it?


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Re: Bob Evan on 123 near AT&T building Robbed new
Posted by: WashingTone-Locian ()
Date: December 08, 2009 12:58PM


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> > Why would anybody rob a Bob Evans?
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> For $10,000, I'd rob Bob Evans.


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ha ha ha another smoker gets lung cancer. Seems to me they should warn people about the risk of smoking..... oh wait, they do.
ha ha ha

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> ha ha ha another smoker gets lung cancer. Seems to
> me they should warn people about the risk of
> smoking..... oh wait, they do.
> ha ha ha

smoking is like playing russian roulette with nothing to gain. it's definitely dumb and i'm hoping future generations are seeing that people are dying from this shit.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

I just spent 2 weeks in the hospital for a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung). They tried to let it fix itself, but I needed surgery to fix it. I asked the doc to snap a few pics of my lung damage, and it was pretty bad.
Smoking Reds for nearly 7 years has turned my lungs half black, pretty gruesome. I havent even thought about smoking since.
Painful lesson to learn, but I wouldnt have quit otherwise.

Ill scan the pics and post them here if you all are interested...

Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Yahweh ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:48AM


i like it. total throwback.

i hear the "walker IDs" are staying the same.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Ugly ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:53AM


I see how it is more complicated to duplicate. The birth dates are raised lettering like credit card numbers. The birth date is also in a number of spots like on the back carved into the plastic covering.

However, I think with some work and practice a person could duplicate it.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: curious ()
Date: December 07, 2009 12:19PM


My problem is the dumb cashiers that haven't learned about the new ones yet . . . even worse, try using that puppy out of state.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: A lil south of ya ()
Date: December 07, 2009 12:33PM


A related thread from September regarding whether there would be RFID or not

[www.fairfaxunderground.com]


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Baba64 ()
Date: December 07, 2009 04:41PM


Yeah, I agree. It's odd-looking.
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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: December 07, 2009 05:19PM


Interesting this is they the VA ABC says you should spot a fake ID. I thought the A-ask section was clever.

F-L-A-G is a simple way to remember how to properly check IDs
F - Feel

* Have the customer remove the ID from their wallet or plastic holder. You may see another ID in their wallet.
* Feel for raised edges, glue lines or bumpy surfaces by the photo or birth date. Uneven surfaces often indicate tampering. Feel for cut-out or pasted information.
* Check the thickness of the ID. Check to see if it was re-laminated after changing some of the information.

L - Look

* Photograph - Does it look like the person in front of you? Hairstyles and makeup can change, so focus your attention on the person's eyes, nose and chin. When checking men with beards or mustaches, cover the facial hair portion of the photo and concentrate on the eyes, nose or ears.
* Height and weight - Do they reasonably match the person?
* State seal - Is it on the ID and is it in the correct place?
* Date of birth - Is the person old enough? Figure the math or look at the "Under 21 Until" portion of the ID.
* Age on ID vs. Appearance - Does the person in front of you match the age on the ID?
* Expiration date - Is the ID expired? Expired IDs are unacceptable.
* Lamination - Are the cuts or corners/edges straight or crooked?

A - Ask

* Ask for their middle name, zodiac sign or year of high school graduation. If someone has to think about his or her sign or when they graduated, the ID may be false.
* Ask the birth month. If the person responds with a number rather than the name of the month, they may be lying.
* If the customer is with a companion, ask the companion to quickly tell you the customer's name. Any hesitation may indicate deception.
* Ask the customer to sign his/her name and then compare the signatures to the ID. Sometimes if the ID is false, the customer will sign his or her true name, rather than the one on the ID.

G - Give Back

* Give the ID back to the customer and make the sale if the ID is valid.
* If the ID is fake or altered, you must return the ID.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Porksta ()
Date: December 07, 2009 07:05PM


^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
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Date: December 07, 2009 08:11PM


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> ^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?

That's from the VA ABC. I guess a fake document is the property of the owner.


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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:50PM


What If Climategate was Cancergate?
December 6th, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
[www.drroyspencer.com]

Quote

Senator Barbara Boxer has said that the e-mails supposedly stolen from a computer at the Climatic Research Unit in the UK should lead to prosecution of the hacker who did it. This rather obvious attempt to divert attention from the content of the emails, to the manner in which the e-mails were obtained, led my wife to make an interesting observation.

What if the intercepted emails uncovered medical researchers discussing the fudging and hiding of cancer research data, and trying to interfere with the peer review process to prevent other medical researchers from getting published? There would be outrage from all across the political spectrum. Scientists behaving badly while the health of people was at stake would not be defended by anyone.

So why should it be any different with Climategate? Unnecessary restrictions on (or price increases for) energy use could needlessly kill millions of people who are already poverty stricken. Cancer research affects many of us, but energy costs affect ALL of us.

At least WAPO finally came out with a big story on the CRU issue.

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Robert Thorn ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:26PM


Banned in Boston Wrote:
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> Don't just eliminate the BTUs, use 'em to create
> energy. Kill two birds with one stone - reduce
> the excess btu-generating population, and convert
> their potential energy into actual energy, thereby
> reducing our dependence on coal and oil.


Soylent Green is people!

Enough of this global warming nonsense. Restore the view from the Blue Ridge, the crabs in the Chesapeake, and the grass in the goal areas and I'll be satisfied.


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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: WashingTone-Locian ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:33PM


Registered Voter Wrote:
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> What If Climategate was Cancergate?
> December 6th, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
> [www.drroyspencer.com]
> egate-was-cancergate/
>
> Senator Barbara Boxer has said that the e-mails
> supposedly stolen from a computer at the Climatic
> Research Unit in the UK should lead to prosecution
> of the hacker who did it. This rather obvious
> attempt to divert attention from the content of
> the emails, to the manner in which the e-mails
> were obtained, led my wife to make an interesting
> observation.
>
> What if the intercepted emails uncovered medical
> researchers discussing the fudging and hiding of
> cancer research data, and trying to interfere with
> the peer review process to prevent other medical
> researchers from getting published? There would be
> outrage from all across the political spectrum.
> Scientists behaving badly while the health of
> people was at stake would not be defended by
> anyone.
>
> So why should it be any different with
> Climategate? Unnecessary restrictions on (or price
> increases for) energy use could needlessly kill
> millions of people who are already poverty
> stricken. Cancer research affects many of us, but
> energy costs affect ALL of us.
>
>
> At least WAPO finally came out with a big story on
> the CRU issue.

Ever hear of "two wrongs don't make a right?" Even if there was fraud taking place at CRU, which is far from clear despite the snippets you are seeing in the news, it doesn't exonerate those who stole the e-mails from prosecution.

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:34PM


Yeah but you may as well say the same thing about the political commentary here when you say "well the republicans did it..."

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:01PM


Deja Vu...

The CIA’s ‘global cooling’ files
Maurizio Morabito
5 December 2009

The threat of a new ice age loomed so large in 1974 that American intelligence collated a report on the likely effects.
[www.spectator.co.uk]

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It is as if climate scares had to follow a set pattern. Back in 1974 the usual disasters were projected: the ‘new climatic era’ was said to be bringing famine, starvation, refugee crises, floods, droughts, crop and monsoon failures, and all sorts of extreme weather phenomena. The Sahara would expand. World grain reserves, already at less than a month’s supply, would be depleted. A list of past civilisations brought down by ‘major and minor’ cooling episodes was given, which included the Indus, Hittites, Mycenaean, and the Mali empire of Africa. Any possible benefits to climate change were barely mentioned.

More parallels can be drawn. According to the CIA report, in 1974 climate science was developing ‘a successful climatic prediction model’, as indeed it still is. Government intervention had brought together eminent scientists who had previously been at odds with each other then had established a ‘scientific consensus’ on ‘global climate change’. The scientists claimed this pattern of cooling would cause ‘major economic problems around the world’. Dealing with this would, of course, require the creation of several new government agencies. The media at the time seized on all of this, just as it is doing now. Newsweek and the New York Times described the global cooling threat.

How is it that the parallels between that 1970s panic and today’s have been so little remarked upon? And it doesn’t stop there. There have even been recent attempts to label the ‘global cooling consensus’ a ‘myth’, most notably in a well-publicised article by Thomas C. Peterson, William M. Connolley, and John Fleck published by the American Meteorological Society in September 2008.
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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 09, 2009 08:29AM


Here's yet another oops moment with Copenhagen. First they try to deny there a problem, then this...

I think it is time for them to all step back, get a handle on what is really going on, and deal with it. With what has come out, and documents like this, it really is turning out to be nothing more than an extreme world-wide government control exercise, and the wheels are falling off. The way they are pushing this "change" has all the markings of how they are currently pushing legislation in Congress these days. Mind you - the new document certainly "sounds" better then what they were pushing early on, but in reading the text (available in the article) it may just be a smoke screen.

Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak
Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol
[www.guardian.co.uk]

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The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".
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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:08AM


Yeah...do nothing is always so much easier then doing something. It's a bitch.


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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:15AM


Vince(1) Wrote:
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> Yeah...do nothing is always so much easier then
> doing something. It's a bitch.

Fuck you Vince.

I have tried to be civil this morning, but if you have nothing to say other than your usual unsubstantiated, and untrue commentary - then STFU.

It isn't a matter of doing nothing - but that seems to be the extent of your "suspension of reality understanding system" (SORUS).

Can YOU prove that the AGW folks have it right?

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:18AM


oh no..there you go again...repetition is retribution..and I had such hopes for you. Enjoy a day of consequence brought on by your rudeness.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2009 09:18AM by Vince(1).

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Vince(1), while I don't always agree with what you write and try my best to stay above the petty bickering...you're becoming a complete pain in the ass with this long post bullshit. Please stop.

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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer new
Posted by: Yahweh ()
Date: December 09, 2009 08:50AM


I just spent 2 weeks in the hospital for a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung). They tried to let it fix itself, but I needed surgery to fix it. I asked the doc to snap a few pics of my lung damage, and it was pretty bad.
Smoking Reds for nearly 7 years has turned my lungs half black, pretty gruesome. I havent even thought about smoking since.
Painful lesson to learn, but I wouldnt have quit otherwise.

Ill scan the pics and post them here if you all are interested...



Good for you YehWeh, post the pics If it gets just one person to quit smoking it will be worth it

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I walked into Kilroy's the other night to see if they went smoke-free. they did. It was weird standing watching football without feeling like I was going to puke from smoke. When I left I kept smelling my shirt for smoke. In the past it was a hallmark of having spent time in the place.

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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: December 08, 2009 03:55PM


ha ha ha another smoker gets lung cancer. Seems to me they should warn people about the risk of smoking..... oh wait, they do.
ha ha ha


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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: December 09, 2009 07:56AM


graymoose1 Wrote:
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> ha ha ha another smoker gets lung cancer. Seems to
> me they should warn people about the risk of
> smoking..... oh wait, they do.
> ha ha ha

smoking is like playing russian roulette with nothing to gain. it's definitely dumb and i'm hoping future generations are seeing that people are dying from this shit.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."


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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: Yahweh ()
Date: December 09, 2009 08:50AM


I just spent 2 weeks in the hospital for a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung). They tried to let it fix itself, but I needed surgery to fix it. I asked the doc to snap a few pics of my lung damage, and it was pretty bad.
Smoking Reds for nearly 7 years has turned my lungs half black, pretty gruesome. I havent even thought about smoking since.
Painful lesson to learn, but I wouldnt have quit otherwise.

Ill scan the pics and post them here if you all are interested...


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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:21AM


Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Yahweh ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:48AM


i like it. total throwback.

i hear the "walker IDs" are staying the same.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Ugly ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:53AM


I see how it is more complicated to duplicate. The birth dates are raised lettering like credit card numbers. The birth date is also in a number of spots like on the back carved into the plastic covering.

However, I think with some work and practice a person could duplicate it.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: curious ()
Date: December 07, 2009 12:19PM


My problem is the dumb cashiers that haven't learned about the new ones yet . . . even worse, try using that puppy out of state.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: A lil south of ya ()
Date: December 07, 2009 12:33PM


A related thread from September regarding whether there would be RFID or not

[www.fairfaxunderground.com]


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Baba64 ()
Date: December 07, 2009 04:41PM


Yeah, I agree. It's odd-looking.
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Posted by: Lurker. ()
Date: December 07, 2009 05:19PM


Interesting this is they the VA ABC says you should spot a fake ID. I thought the A-ask section was clever.

F-L-A-G is a simple way to remember how to properly check IDs
F - Feel

* Have the customer remove the ID from their wallet or plastic holder. You may see another ID in their wallet.
* Feel for raised edges, glue lines or bumpy surfaces by the photo or birth date. Uneven surfaces often indicate tampering. Feel for cut-out or pasted information.
* Check the thickness of the ID. Check to see if it was re-laminated after changing some of the information.

L - Look

* Photograph - Does it look like the person in front of you? Hairstyles and makeup can change, so focus your attention on the person's eyes, nose and chin. When checking men with beards or mustaches, cover the facial hair portion of the photo and concentrate on the eyes, nose or ears.
* Height and weight - Do they reasonably match the person?
* State seal - Is it on the ID and is it in the correct place?
* Date of birth - Is the person old enough? Figure the math or look at the "Under 21 Until" portion of the ID.
* Age on ID vs. Appearance - Does the person in front of you match the age on the ID?
* Expiration date - Is the ID expired? Expired IDs are unacceptable.
* Lamination - Are the cuts or corners/edges straight or crooked?

A - Ask

* Ask for their middle name, zodiac sign or year of high school graduation. If someone has to think about his or her sign or when they graduated, the ID may be false.
* Ask the birth month. If the person responds with a number rather than the name of the month, they may be lying.
* If the customer is with a companion, ask the companion to quickly tell you the customer's name. Any hesitation may indicate deception.
* Ask the customer to sign his/her name and then compare the signatures to the ID. Sometimes if the ID is false, the customer will sign his or her true name, rather than the one on the ID.

G - Give Back

* Give the ID back to the customer and make the sale if the ID is valid.
* If the ID is fake or altered, you must return the ID.


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Re: The New VA License, Ugliest Ever! new
Posted by: Porksta ()
Date: December 07, 2009 07:05PM


^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?


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Date: December 07, 2009 08:11PM


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That's from the VA ABC. I guess a fake document is the property of the owner.


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Date: December 07, 2009 08:45PM


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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 07, 2009 11:50PM


What If Climategate was Cancergate?
December 6th, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
[www.drroyspencer.com]

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Senator Barbara Boxer has said that the e-mails supposedly stolen from a computer at the Climatic Research Unit in the UK should lead to prosecution of the hacker who did it. This rather obvious attempt to divert attention from the content of the emails, to the manner in which the e-mails were obtained, led my wife to make an interesting observation.

What if the intercepted emails uncovered medical researchers discussing the fudging and hiding of cancer research data, and trying to interfere with the peer review process to prevent other medical researchers from getting published? There would be outrage from all across the political spectrum. Scientists behaving badly while the health of people was at stake would not be defended by anyone.

So why should it be any different with Climategate? Unnecessary restrictions on (or price increases for) energy use could needlessly kill millions of people who are already poverty stricken. Cancer research affects many of us, but energy costs affect ALL of us.

At least WAPO finally came out with a big story on the CRU issue.

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Robert Thorn ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:26PM


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> Don't just eliminate the BTUs, use 'em to create
> energy. Kill two birds with one stone - reduce
> the excess btu-generating population, and convert
> their potential energy into actual energy, thereby
> reducing our dependence on coal and oil.


Soylent Green is people!

Enough of this global warming nonsense. Restore the view from the Blue Ridge, the crabs in the Chesapeake, and the grass in the goal areas and I'll be satisfied.


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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: WashingTone-Locian ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:33PM


Registered Voter Wrote:
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> What If Climategate was Cancergate?
> December 6th, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
> [www.drroyspencer.com]
> egate-was-cancergate/
>
> Senator Barbara Boxer has said that the e-mails
> supposedly stolen from a computer at the Climatic
> Research Unit in the UK should lead to prosecution
> of the hacker who did it. This rather obvious
> attempt to divert attention from the content of
> the emails, to the manner in which the e-mails
> were obtained, led my wife to make an interesting
> observation.
>
> What if the intercepted emails uncovered medical
> researchers discussing the fudging and hiding of
> cancer research data, and trying to interfere with
> the peer review process to prevent other medical
> researchers from getting published? There would be
> outrage from all across the political spectrum.
> Scientists behaving badly while the health of
> people was at stake would not be defended by
> anyone.
>
> So why should it be any different with
> Climategate? Unnecessary restrictions on (or price
> increases for) energy use could needlessly kill
> millions of people who are already poverty
> stricken. Cancer research affects many of us, but
> energy costs affect ALL of us.
>
>
> At least WAPO finally came out with a big story on
> the CRU issue.

Ever hear of "two wrongs don't make a right?" Even if there was fraud taking place at CRU, which is far from clear despite the snippets you are seeing in the news, it doesn't exonerate those who stole the e-mails from prosecution.

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 08, 2009 01:34PM


Yeah but you may as well say the same thing about the political commentary here when you say "well the republicans did it..."

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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 08, 2009 10:01PM


Deja Vu...

The CIA’s ‘global cooling’ files
Maurizio Morabito
5 December 2009

The threat of a new ice age loomed so large in 1974 that American intelligence collated a report on the likely effects.
[www.spectator.co.uk]

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It is as if climate scares had to follow a set pattern. Back in 1974 the usual disasters were projected: the ‘new climatic era’ was said to be bringing famine, starvation, refugee crises, floods, droughts, crop and monsoon failures, and all sorts of extreme weather phenomena. The Sahara would expand. World grain reserves, already at less than a month’s supply, would be depleted. A list of past civilisations brought down by ‘major and minor’ cooling episodes was given, which included the Indus, Hittites, Mycenaean, and the Mali empire of Africa. Any possible benefits to climate change were barely mentioned.

More parallels can be drawn. According to the CIA report, in 1974 climate science was developing ‘a successful climatic prediction model’, as indeed it still is. Government intervention had brought together eminent scientists who had previously been at odds with each other then had established a ‘scientific consensus’ on ‘global climate change’. The scientists claimed this pattern of cooling would cause ‘major economic problems around the world’. Dealing with this would, of course, require the creation of several new government agencies. The media at the time seized on all of this, just as it is doing now. Newsweek and the New York Times described the global cooling threat.

How is it that the parallels between that 1970s panic and today’s have been so little remarked upon? And it doesn’t stop there. There have even been recent attempts to label the ‘global cooling consensus’ a ‘myth’, most notably in a well-publicised article by Thomas C. Peterson, William M. Connolley, and John Fleck published by the American Meteorological Society in September 2008.
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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 09, 2009 08:29AM


Here's yet another oops moment with Copenhagen. First they try to deny there a problem, then this...

I think it is time for them to all step back, get a handle on what is really going on, and deal with it. With what has come out, and documents like this, it really is turning out to be nothing more than an extreme world-wide government control exercise, and the wheels are falling off. The way they are pushing this "change" has all the markings of how they are currently pushing legislation in Congress these days. Mind you - the new document certainly "sounds" better then what they were pushing early on, but in reading the text (available in the article) it may just be a smoke screen.

Copenhagen climate summit in disarray after 'Danish text' leak
Developing countries react furiously to leaked draft agreement that would hand more power to rich nations, sideline the UN's negotiating role and abandon the Kyoto protocol
[www.guardian.co.uk]

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The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as "a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks".
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Re: global warming exposition thread
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:08AM


Yeah...do nothing is always so much easier then doing something. It's a bitch.


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Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:15AM


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> Yeah...do nothing is always so much easier then
> doing something. It's a bitch.

Fuck you Vince.

I have tried to be civil this morning, but if you have nothing to say other than your usual unsubstantiated, and untrue commentary - then STFU.

It isn't a matter of doing nothing - but that seems to be the extent of your "suspension of reality understanding system" (SORUS).

Can YOU prove that the AGW folks have it right?

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Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:18AM


oh no..there you go again...repetition is retribution..and I had such hopes for you. Enjoy a day of consequence brought on by your rudeness.



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Date: December 09, 2009 09:35AM


Vince(1), while I don't always agree with what you write and try my best to stay above the petty bickering...you're becoming a complete pain in the ass with this long post bullshit. Please stop.

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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 09, 2009 09:38AM


He won't stop. I pray for his banning.



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Date: December 09, 2009 10:15AM


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Date: December 09, 2009 08:50AM


I just spent 2 weeks in the hospital for a spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung). They tried to let it fix itself, but I needed surgery to fix it. I asked the doc to snap a few pics of my lung damage, and it was pretty bad.
Smoking Reds for nearly 7 years has turned my lungs half black, pretty gruesome. I havent even thought about smoking since.
Painful lesson to learn, but I wouldnt have quit otherwise.

Ill scan the pics and post them here if you all are interested...



Good for you YehWeh, post the pics If it gets just one person to quit smoking it will be worth it


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Re: Bryant Gumbel has Lung Cancer Posted by: dono ()
Date: December 09, 2009 11:48AM


I walked into Kilroy's the other night to see if they went smoke-free. they did. It was weird standing watching football without feeling like I was going to puke from smoke. When I left I kept smelling my shirt for smoke. In the past it was a hallmark of having spent time in the place.

I hope Bryant survives...

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> they went smoke-free. they did. It was weird
> standing watching football without feeling like I
> was going to puke from smoke. When I left I kept
> smelling my shirt for smoke. In the past it was a
> hallmark of having spent time in the place.


A lot of the regulars that smoked at Kilroy's are now throwing house parties or going to bars where they can smoke. Kilroy is going to be hurting.

I don't blame the bar owners, why pay all the money to convert if you don't know if business is lost.

Wait, see if business dies out then you can always convert to a smoking bar later to get business back. There's no clause that says bars can't change back later.

I never liked Bryant Gumbel and wrote the Today show about 10 times to get rid of him. He was so arrogant and left his wife and children for another woman. How low can you go.

I do not wish him to die from Lung Cancer, but he should have known better, every cigar you smoke is equivelant to 42 cigarettes. Again, if he is so smart why would he suck on cigars - How Stupid. He must have sucked them very deep. Then you never could tell him anything. He knew cigar smoking was a risk factor for lung cancer and he still did it. Again, How Stupid an the man be........

If he has stage 3 or stage 4 lung cancer, it will be the end for him. He may live 1 year or less.

He has no one to blame but himself. I am 62 years old and when I was 5 years old, I knew tobacco smoking caused cancer and vowed NEVER to smoke.

My father who was a Medical Doctor said it best, "Lung Cancer is a deserving end
for those Stupid enough to suck on the tobacco weed."

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what a beautiful hallmark card.



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