I think it's going to be hilarious when the gold bubble crashes and all the idiots who listen to Glenn Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly, and actually take their advice get creamed. Any bets on whether these idiots will apologize to their listeners when they inevitably lose money?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30231.html

Gold is a sucker's play at the moment. Once interest rates jump, it will drop. That is an inevitability. Unfortunately, the right wing scare tactics seem to be working on the unwitting.

Gold is a safe investment though. It might not keept its current value forever, but it's always had value, which is far more than anyone can say for stocks and bonds.

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"And if any women or children get their legs torn off, or faces caved in, well, it's tough shit for them." -2LT. Bert Stiles, 505th, 339th (On Berlin Bombardier Mission, 1944).

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Gold is a safe investment though. It might not
> keept its current value forever, but it's always
> had value, which is far more than anyone can say
> for stocks and bonds.


+ 1 Just don't do those stupid investments that advertise on TV late at night.

The gold fund in my 401k has never failed me, unlike the stocks that have hit me hard.

Unfortunately, a lot of these outfits push "Gold Futures" on old people in Florida who don't realize how risky these contracts are. Buying a Gold-based fund through a reputable broker is one thing. Getting fucked over by shysters and listening to compromised fucktards like Glenn Beck who is profiting from the so-called "advice" he gives to listeners as a compensated endorser is quite another.

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

Or maybe they should call personal injury lawyers that spend their days hawking their business as professional ambulance chasers. Frivolous law suit advertisement is a good business these days I am sure.

As usual, you assume everyone is too stupid to be smart with their money. You hear a few anecdotal stories of a few people that get ripped off or spend their money poorly, and suddenly the whole world on one side of the political spectrum is a shyster. Maybe Barney Frank could go out and tell all those folks that weren't qualified to get home loans why they shouldn't sue him for promoting reckless lending policies.

Seriously WTL - I think all this Obama falling off his ivory pedestal and now the AGW emails has sent you over the edge You have been almost as angry as Vince lately.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Or maybe they should call personal injury lawyers
> that spend their days hawking their business as
> professional ambulance chasers. Frivolous law suit
> advertisement is a good business these days I am
> sure.
>
> As usual, you assume everyone is too stupid to be
> smart with their money. You hear a few anecdotal
> stories of a few people that get ripped off or
> spend their money poorly, and suddenly the whole
> world on one side of the political spectrum is a
> shyster. Maybe Barney Frank could go out and tell
> all those folks that weren't qualified to get home
> loans why they shouldn't sue him for promoting
> reckless lending policies.
>
> Seriously WTL - I think all this Obama falling off
> his ivory pedestal and now the AGW emails has sent
> you over the edge You have been almost as angry as
> Vince lately.


I worked in the radio business. I know what I am talking about. If you want to invest in gold, speak with a reputable investment adviser. Don't go off of some stupid radio ad, no matter what show it is on.

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http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Gold is a safe investment though. It might not
> keept its current value forever, but it's always
> had value, which is far more than anyone can say
> for stocks and bonds.


You are truly showing your ignorance.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Or maybe they should call personal injury lawyers
> that spend their days hawking their business as
> professional ambulance chasers. Frivolous law suit
> advertisement is a good business these days I am
> sure.
>
> As usual, you assume everyone is too stupid to be
> smart with their money. You hear a few anecdotal
> stories of a few people that get ripped off or
> spend their money poorly, and suddenly the whole
> world on one side of the political spectrum is a
> shyster. Maybe Barney Frank could go out and tell
> all those folks that weren't qualified to get home
> loans why they shouldn't sue him for promoting
> reckless lending policies.
>
> Seriously WTL - I think all this Obama falling off
> his ivory pedestal and now the AGW emails has sent
> you over the edge You have been almost as angry as
> Vince lately.


LOL...Im so glad I haunt you night and day!

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

You only haunt yourself Vince. I am quite happy to tell you what a fucking idiot you are whenever you decide to troll my posts.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

So let me get this straight..from what Im gleaming the Fox "news" boys are being paid to push gold..and you Fox "news" freaks feel it necessary to defend them! This entire site is becoming absolutley bizarre! The Fox "news" boys are whores...they would push shit up a hill if they were paid to do it.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince - you seem to have an obsession with Fox News. Sorry that your vaunted MSNBC is in the shitter - or is it CNN? Neither of them seem to have anyone's attention these days. In any case, you seem to think that because of that, all we do is watch Fox. You obviously get your news from Daily KOS and other left wing trash sites so it is no wonder you always sound like some demented apologist for the radical left wing in our country.

As far as apologizing? No, merely pointing out that for every business/advertising whore on the right, there are plenty of eager, willing, advertising whores on the left. Each side has their personal sell out issue - but whatever gets them the money, eh?

The only thing you need to get straight is your fucking brain damaged mentality. If you keep ignoring your prescription meds, and your therapy sessions that you keep skipping.

EDIT: I find it funny how angry you are Vince. Every topic you bring nothing but anger and hate. You must really be feeling left out in the cold these days huh?

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2009 12:18AM by Registered Voter.

I do not watch MSNBS...I am not angry excapt perhaps at your ntentional stupidity. You are truly a broken record...and worse boring.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.



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Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I do not watch MSNBS...I am not angry excapt
> perhaps at your ntentional stupidity. You are
> truly a broken record...and worse boring.


You failed spelling. Many times evidently. LOL.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

I dont care if I type one word correctly. The "spelling freaks" are weak minded elitists.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince(1) Wrote:
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> I dont care if I type one word correctly. The
> "spelling freaks" are weak minded elitists.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Elitists. Now that is funny coming from you. Funny.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Terrorism is a law enforcemnt issue...making it a war will make Bush II undoubtedly one of the 3 top worse presidents of all time. His expanding the "war" into Iraq will undoubtedly push him to numero uno. Numero dos is undoubtedly Prediente Andrew Jackson...his disregard for the Supreme Court decision protecting indian land rights gets him nominated...his desloution of the U.S Bank pushes him to numero dos. Third will be Preesidente Wilson...his inablilty to sell the League of Nations to his own country doomed that orgaization...he unleashed a number of insurgency groups that attempted to throw off the shackles of colonialism...the collapse of Wilson's 10 point plan left these movements unfulfilled. Many of the insurgents lost faith in the democratic worlds commitment to freedom and turned instead to only truly revolutionare movement of the 20th century...communism. Wilson was a flaming white supremist...which ensures his place as the 3rd worst president.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince is going nuclear folks - keep your heads down.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Registnerd Voter Wrote:
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> Brokaw Crash Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Registered Voter Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > It is laughable at best to see how fast folks
> > are
> > > trying to paint this as some BIG DEAL when we
> > all
> > > know that most of this is due to seasonal
> > hiring
> > > for Christmas. It happens EVERY YEAR - so it
> > > should be no surprise to anyone that some
> > people
> > > got jobs this month.
> > >
> >
> > Good point. Let's google it:
> >
> [money.cnn.com]
>
> > november/index.htm
> >
> > The 2008 tally soars after payrolls shrink by
> > 533,000 in November, the biggest one-month
> decline
> > in nearly 34 years.
>
> Another classic blunder by RV.
>
>


I'm sure he meant every year but last year.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince,

I'm your doctor. I'm here to help you.

the other thread on this topic is retarded, so here's one that isnt.


Quote
Hackers target leading climate research unit
The e-mail system of one of the world's leading climate research units has been breached by hackers.

E-mails reportedly from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU), including personal exchanges, appeared on the internet on Thursday.

A university spokesman confirmed the email system had been hacked and that information was taken and published without permission.

An investigation was underway and the police had been informed, he added.

"We are aware that information from a server used for research information in one area of the university has been made available on public websites," the spokesman stated.

"Because of the volume of this information we cannot currently confirm that all of this material is genuine.

"This information has been obtained and published without our permission and we took immediate action to remove the server in question from operation.

"We are undertaking a thorough internal investigation and we have involved the police in this enquiry."

Researchers at CRU, one of the world's leading research bodies on natural and human-induced climate change, played a key role in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, which is considered to be the most authoritative report of its kind.


...MORE...



Quote
Scientist in climate change data row steps down
Professor Phil Jones, director of the Norwich-based University of East Anglia's (UEA) Climatic Research Unit (CRU), has said he stands by his data.

Sceptics claim the e-mails, leaked after a UEA server was hacked into, showed data was being manipulated.

The hacking of the computer is being investigated by Norfolk Police.

The files stolen from the computer include documents, detailed data and private e-mails exchanged between leading climate scientists.

'Continue research'

Professor Jones said he would stand aside as director until the completion of the independent review.

It is being conducted in the wake of the allegations by climate "sceptics".

The material was taken from servers at the world-renowned research centre before it was published on websites run by climate change sceptics.

Professor Jones said: "What is most important is that CRU continues its world-leading research with as little interruption and diversion as possible.

"After a good deal of consideration I have decided that the best way to achieve this is by stepping aside from the director's role during the course of the independent review."

Professor Peter Liss will become acting director while the review is conducted, the university said.

'Out of context'

At the time that the theft of the data was revealed climate sceptics picked up on the word "trick" in one e-mail from 1999 and talk of "hiding the decline".

Professor Jones said the e-mail was genuine but taken "completely out of context".

He released a copy of the actual e-email which reads: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

Professor Jones said: "The first thing to point out is that this refers to one diagram - not a scientific paper.

"The word 'trick' was used here colloquially as in a clever thing to do. It is ludicrous to suggest that it refers to anything untoward."


you can download the data/info explosed from...
megaupload: [www.megaupload.com]
this (ultra fast) torrent: Hadley CRU Files (FOI2009 zip).torrent
or pretty much anywhere on google: [www.google.com]



"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."


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Posted by: smite ()
Date: December 02, 2009 06:15AM


3 cheers for Gravis for cutting through the BS yet again.




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Date: December 02, 2009 06:18AM

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince,

Let's talk about your childhood. Was there any abuse?

Posted by: Johnson8777 ()
Date: December 02, 2009 11:21PM


Okay. Lets point one thing out. Im retarded.

Here is the rundown:

I am 17, one month from turning 18. Court date is after I turn 18.
Ive had license since March 09
I got pulled over today for doing 65/45 and got a reckless ticket. First ticket (clean record)
Also got another charge of No Registration in Possesion.

I have a mandatory court date.

So..I need some advice and any similar stories.

What the hell should I do? Lawyer up...I dont know..desperately need advice.


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 02, 2009 11:26PM


Dress nice, go to court and pay your fine.

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Well if you said it, obviously it must make sense then.



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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: Johnson8777 ()
Date: December 02, 2009 11:47PM


Plead guilty or No Contest?


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: ffxn8v ()
Date: December 03, 2009 12:04AM


Get a LAWYER!!!

I went to court at the age of 17 on a Reckless Driving ticket without a lawyer and the judge took my license for one (1) year.

Trust me, the court system has not gone lenient in the past 2 decades. If I could turn back time, I'd get a lawyer... Spending my senior year without a license was a pretty expensive lesson.

You asked for advice, there is mine - from one who has been there, done that...

Hope it helps!

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Johnson8777 Wrote:
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> Okay. Lets point one thing out. Im retarded.
>
> Here is the rundown:
>
> I am 17, one month from turning 18. Court date is
> after I turn 18.
> Ive had license since March 09
> I got pulled over today for doing 65/45 and got a
> reckless ticket. First ticket (clean record)
> Also got another charge of No Registration in
> Possesion.
>
> I have a mandatory court date.
>
> So..I need some advice and any similar stories.
>
> What the hell should I do? Lawyer up...I dont
> know..desperately need advice.


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: hahahahahahaha ()
Date: December 03, 2009 12:11AM


HAHAHAHAHA S. Azi, this is the last place you should go for legal advice.

But IMO you're screwed man, sucks


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: Snapple ()
Date: December 03, 2009 01:33AM


Just curious, where were you speeding?


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: ben introuble ()
Date: December 03, 2009 01:42AM


I'd say get a lawyer for anything above a reckless anything less screw it.


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Re: Reckless (65/45) new
Posted by: Reverend ()
Date: December 03, 2009 03:18AM


First, where did this happen? If you end up in Fairfax General District Court then pray to Fing god. If you got busted within the legal limits of say Herndon or Vienna then you should be okay. Wherever the offense happened you must do everything you can to show the judge that you "get it", that you accept and understand how serious of an offense it is. Make sure your papers(registration, insurance, state inspection, tags)are up to date and current before your court date no matter what. One good thing to do on your court date would be to have a nice wallet and have the registration, your license and proof of insurance in that wallet and that that wallet is on you and that you SHOW this to the judge!
Yes,dress nice. If you dont then most judges esp. Ffx Co. judges see that as disrespect and can even go as far as find you in contempt of court if you really look bad(torn clothes, t-shirts with "offensive" slogans or logos)and make sure you get a good haircut the day before too. Idk what kinda "click" youre in but if its one with Fd up hair then you must correct that asap.

Also, Idk how much time you have before the court date but the best thing you can do yourself is to take a driver improvement course no matter what. Plenty of private driving schools here and most of them are very good. Take it and pass it and have a document that proves you took it and passed it to, heres the key, show the judge! Make sure he sees it. All this says that "you get it" to a judge.

Lastly, unless you learn how to represent and defend yourself in court properly, get a good lawyer no matter how much it costs. I learned how to defend and represent myself properly(had alot of free time when I was in jail)after my felony conviction. My lawyer was an Fing moron and I couldve easily done a far better job of defending myself looking back. Before you or your folks or whoever writes check number 1 to retain whatever lawyer, DEMAND that they layout how they are going to defend you and plead your case. My lawyer was late to the court date first off and this is how he defended me, "Your honor my client is guilty and throws himself on the mercy of the court and will accept full responsibility for whatever obligations you see fit!"

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

Vince,

You are opposed to buying gold because of Fox News, Preesidente Wilson, the white supermacists, the weak minded spelling freak elitists, global warming skeptics, and Registered Voter?

I suspect alcohol was involved.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

I suspect enormous amounts.

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Gold is a safe investment though. It might not
> keept its current value forever, but it's always
> had value, which is far more than anyone can say
> for stocks and bonds.


Prior to this runup, gold spent 20yrs btwn $200-$300. It may not go to 0 but it could quite easily drop back down to those levels (from $1200) as interest rates go up. I think we're closer to the top then bottom. Just my IMO

The average dollar amount a first time purchaser of gold spends is around $15,000.00. This is a huge number to drop on a 1-800 call. Beck, Hammity,Fox News, etc., get a cool 4.5% of your first purchase as a refferal (direct repsonce) fee. This commission is why they push so hard to get you to "just call the special number on your screen," or tell them "sean hammity sent you."

Like everything that has to do with Faux News, there is a lot of fraud and tricks in the gold business.

It may be a while before interest rates start creeping up. I agree it is bound to happen but to what degree. There are many economists very frightened that we could easily move into hyperinflation - in which case remaining in gold would be the safest way to go. But just as they dodged the bullet with the entire financial system, they could likewise maybe dodge the hyperinflation risk.

whatever happened to just putting your money in the bank and letting it gain interest? you can literally live off the interest accrued by $1M (~$20K/year)or just $500K(~$10K/year) if you are really thrifty (hello low income housing!).

i think way too many people just go out and blow cash on stupid stuff that they end up paying off over the period of a decade (brand spankin' new cars) instead of saving it. save enough and it saves you (from excellent economic times)!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> Gold is a safe investment though. It might not
> keept its current value forever, but it's always
> had value, which is far more than anyone can say
> for stocks and bonds.


Pretty much wrong. You should say "a stock or a bond". A properly diversified and rebalanced periodically portfolio of stocks and bonds will beat gold over the long term.

It's kind of sad that some of the best reporting out there these days is done by Jon Stewart:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/11/stewart-catches-glenn-bec_n_388362.html

Glenn Beck and others with adverts from these companies has as little to do with the price of gold as the price of tea in China.

If that is as far as your understanding is of what drives gold prices, it is no wonder you think Jon Stewart represents the "best reporting" out there. Speaking of "entertainers spouting opinions"...

http://global-economy.suite101.com/article.cfm/global_demand_drives_february_gold_prices

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10633099/india-drives-gold-higher.html

Certainly though it helps when he offers up Glenn Beck for entertainment as to deflect the real reasons why gold prices are going up. Perhaps it has a lot more to do with the value of the US $?

Seriously, Jon Stewart is entertaining, but "best reporting"? Hardly.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

You have an uncanny ability to miss the point in just about every post. Whether Glenn Beck is influencing the price of gold wasn't the point of the piece--though Glenn Beck himself seems to think he has at least some ability to do just that. If you don't find something deeply unsavory about one of the highest rated hosts of a prime time show on what purports to be a news network financially promoting a product on his show while being paid by companies like Goldline then you have a seriously flawed moral compass. And while I wouldn't characterize the Daily Show as a news show or generally refer to their work as "reporting", I do think they are masterful at bringing issues to light that largely go ignored in the MSM.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Glenn Beck and others with adverts from these
> companies has as little to do with the price of
> gold as the price of tea in China.

They are making money, just like every other business and business person does under normal circumstances. I am sure the gold-line folks and all are paying them good advertising dollars to place their ads.

Honestly I have more of an issue with MSM promoting tooth decaying cereals to kids during morning cartoons then I do with this kind of stuff. Who is focusing on what exactly here? You seem to be missing the big picture for all the little soundbite moments being pushed by MSM and folks like Jon Stewart. For instance, the Democrats control Congress, and have yet to get past their own differences to pass legislation - and yet, NY Times and WAPO were on and on about Republican in-fighting and being demoralized, yada yada yada. It was almost laughable if it weren't so serious. So they would rather distract you with meaningless stories that take your attention away from the problems. The fact that folks are even trying to pin the rise of gold prices on talk radio and Fox News shows is hilarious. Even though it isn't true, you all have your "moral panties" up in a wad over something like this?

What is the point of this thread again? What was the OP? So you posting Jon Stewart's story was about the "morality" of it?

Sorry but - LOL

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

There are countless other threads about other topics if you want to comment about Democrats passing legislation or Republican infighting--what on earth does that have to do with gold? I started this thread to comment on a trend I had noticed--right wing commentators pushing gold on their listeners while simultaneously profiting from it. I don't know how much, if any, it has to do with the current price of gold but I do know that gold will decline at some point and many of their listeners will take a beating. I'd rather it all be on the record now so that they can't claim ignorance when it happens.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> They are making money, just like every other
> business and business person does under normal
> circumstances. I am sure the gold-line folks and
> all are paying them good advertising dollars to
> place their ads.
>
> Honestly I have more of an issue with MSM
> promoting tooth decaying cereals to kids during
> morning cartoons then I do with this kind of
> stuff. Who is focusing on what exactly here? You
> seem to be missing the big picture for all the
> little soundbite moments being pushed by MSM and
> folks like Jon Stewart. For instance, the
> Democrats control Congress, and have yet to get
> past their own differences to pass legislation -
> and yet, NY Times and WAPO were on and on about
> Republican in-fighting and being demoralized, yada
> yada yada. It was almost laughable if it weren't
> so serious. So they would rather distract you with
> meaningless stories that take your attention away
> from the problems. The fact that folks are even
> trying to pin the rise of gold prices on talk
> radio and Fox News shows is hilarious. Even though
> it isn't true, you all have your "moral panties"
> up in a wad over something like this?
>
> What is the point of this thread again? What was
> the OP? So you posting Jon Stewart's story was
> about the "morality" of it?
>
> Sorry but - LOL

I get your point on the morals of it - the problem is this is just MSM (and Jon Stewart) taking aim at irrelevant topics to distract from the issues. IE - Yes, at some low level it is maybe not their best choice of advertising dollars.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University



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Voter Wrote:
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> There are countless other threads about other
> topics if you want to comment about Democrats
> passing legislation or Republican infighting--what
> on earth does that have to do with gold? I
> started this thread to comment on a trend I had
> noticed--right wing commentators pushing gold on
> their listeners while simultaneously profiting
> from it. I don't know how much, if any, it has to
> do with the current price of gold but I do know
> that gold will decline at some point and many of
> their listeners will take a beating. I'd rather
> it all be on the record now so that they can't
> claim ignorance when it happens.
>
> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They are making money, just like every other
> > business and business person does under normal
> > circumstances. I am sure the gold-line folks
> and
> > all are paying them good advertising dollars to
> > place their ads.
> >
> > Honestly I have more of an issue with MSM
> > promoting tooth decaying cereals to kids during
> > morning cartoons then I do with this kind of
> > stuff. Who is focusing on what exactly here?
> You
> > seem to be missing the big picture for all the
> > little soundbite moments being pushed by MSM
> and
> > folks like Jon Stewart. For instance, the
> > Democrats control Congress, and have yet to get
> > past their own differences to pass legislation
> -
> > and yet, NY Times and WAPO were on and on about
> > Republican in-fighting and being demoralized,
> yada
> > yada yada. It was almost laughable if it
> weren't
> > so serious. So they would rather distract you
> with
> > meaningless stories that take your attention
> away
> > from the problems. The fact that folks are even
> > trying to pin the rise of gold prices on talk
> > radio and Fox News shows is hilarious. Even
> though
> > it isn't true, you all have your "moral
> panties"
> > up in a wad over something like this?
> >
> > What is the point of this thread again? What
> was
> > the OP? So you posting Jon Stewart's story was
> > about the "morality" of it?
> >
> > Sorry but - LOL


Sorry..dont ever accuse a republican talking head...that is any Fox "news" personality of conflict of interest or non-professional behavior. They have all admitted to being nothing more then comedians and charlitans who would do anything for ratings and a quick buck. What else do you expect from them...A written confession?

And oh yeah...ha...ha..ha...John Stewart speaking on the morality of the whole thing...that drug addict...phone sex opeartor shouldnt even go there. Oh wait...Im mistaken, thats Beck, Rush and O'Reilly who are drug addicts and phone sex operators...never mind! Im such a dickhead.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

I don't agree it is irrelevant. Millions of people have lost large amounts of money over the last 10 years because the media have too often ignored or gotten caught up in the hype over investments that didn't make too much sense. Stewart very effectively put a spotlight on the unethical behavior of stock analysts like Jim Cramer. It is the job of the media to turn a critical eye on this kind of thing.

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> I get your point on the morals of it - the problem
> is this is just MSM (and Jon Stewart) taking aim
> at irrelevant topics to distract from the issues.
> IE - Yes, at some low level it is maybe not their
> best choice of advertising dollars.

Voter Wrote:
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> I don't agree it is irrelevant. Millions of
> people have lost large amounts of money over the
> last 10 years because the media have too often
> ignored or gotten caught up in the hype over
> investments that didn't make too much sense.
> Stewart very effectively put a spotlight on the
> unethical behavior of stock analysts like Jim
> Cramer. It is the job of the media to turn a
> critical eye on this kind of thing.
>
> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I get your point on the morals of it - the
> problem
> > is this is just MSM (and Jon Stewart) taking
> aim
> > at irrelevant topics to distract from the
> issues.
> > IE - Yes, at some low level it is maybe not
> their
> > best choice of advertising dollars.

Um sure.... maybe they need to define what issues are critical then. That seems to be the problem we are having. There are definitely issues more pressing than these.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

Having bought 16 ounces of gold boullion at $400...Im gonna wait until I can sell it above $1400 and take the money and run.

Registered Voter...a Big talking coward..big man on FFXU...little man in life.

if you invested in gold in 1973, good for you, your investment is 12x what it originally was worth.



though, had you invested in just about any kind of electronics based technology, you would be waaaay richer.


but hey, if you just invested, good for you, it's up... and now is going to plummet. hope you like the conversion fees!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."