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Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 09:29AM

What the fuck is wrong with our country? The Senate is going to hold hearings about some idiots who got into a White House reception? The Florida State Patrol is pulling out all the stops to ask Tiger Woods why he hit his neighbor's tree? Doesn't there seem to be a disproportionate amount of time, energy and resources being committed to bullshit in this country while you have thugs blowing away cops in coffee shops, people losing their homes and countries going into default? What the fuck is wrong with our country? Are we fiddling while Rome burns? Is that what's happening?

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Warhawk ()
Date: December 01, 2009 11:10AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Are we fiddling while Rome burns? Is that what's
> happening?


Yes.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: December 01, 2009 11:13AM

what ever could you mean?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540
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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Gulliver ()
Date: December 01, 2009 11:25AM

I think it is equally sad when people like the Salahis are actually so sick that they too believe all of the crap they are peddling. Did you see their Today show interview? They are clearly lying - I mean, they open their mouths and it is just lie upon lie that spurts out. Do they really believe that people take them seriously? It is alarming that people, adults mind you, behave that way. We live in a sick, sick world.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: jhey ()
Date: December 01, 2009 11:27AM

I think a lot of it is really just a product of the 24-hour news media cycle. There will always be more "bullshit" trivial issues than there will be "Rome is burning" important issues at any one point in time, but CNN has to broadcast something. On some days, "all the news that's fit to print" might only use up 20 minutes of air time, so the other 23 hours and 40 minutes gets devoted to the dross.

P.S.: Never forget that one person's "Rome is burning" is someone else's "bullshit" (see "climate change, politicization of").

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 11:35AM

Gulliver Wrote:
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> I think it is equally sad when people like the
> Salahis are actually so sick that they too believe
> all of the crap they are peddling. Did you see
> their Today show interview? They are clearly lying
> - I mean, they open their mouths and it is just
> lie upon lie that spurts out. Do they really
> believe that people take them seriously? It is
> alarming that people, adults mind you, behave that
> way. We live in a sick, sick world.



On the Salahis front, this was obviously orchestrated by Bravo (which is owned by NBC). This shit happens, it's all over the news, Bravo then announces that the chick is in "The Real Housewives of DC" and the next thing you know NBC's Today Show has the exclusive. If the Senate really wants to get to the bottom of this, pull the management of Bravo and NBC into the hearing.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 01, 2009 11:55AM

This is definitely our "Rome" moment. We have been heading this way for quite some time - and even though you don't want to hear it, a lot of it has to do with this moral relativism we have adopted as a society.

If we ever start showing mass produced shows of public executions or punishments (and the prison shows are getting close) we should all start looking for the exit doors. That kind of thing is totally meant to distract the masses from what is truly going on.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: December 01, 2009 12:07PM

Yes, they should be going after real criminals like Inka and communists like Vince.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: December 01, 2009 12:13PM

I agree with jhey. We have an over-abundance of mass media in this country. People love the internet, newspapers, TV, and our cameras are rolling 24/7.

I don't believe all this doom and gloom 'Rome is burning' stuff- people have access to more information about the world around them today than ever before. That's a good thing. But alot of it is filled with mundane junk because, frankly, how much possible time can you spend covering those police shootings, or Dubai's financial problems?

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 01, 2009 12:14PM

Yeah, MTVs "The Real World" is high minded stuff.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: December 01, 2009 12:20PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> Yeah, MTVs "The Real World" is high minded stuff.


I wouldn't know because I've never watched it. I'm not even sure how a dumb reality TV show for teenagers even fits into this discussion?

Maybe MTV should start showing more important world news instead of things that will attract more advertisers?

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Numbers ()
Date: December 01, 2009 12:36PM

We NEED to get to the bottom of Tiger Woods marital problems if this great country wants to move forward and begin the healing process.
The FBI should be all over Tiger Woods until he holds a major press conference to admit wrong doing.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 01:13PM

Numbers Wrote:
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> We NEED to get to the bottom of Tiger Woods
> marital problems if this great country wants to
> move forward and begin the healing process.
> The FBI should be all over Tiger Woods until he
> holds a major press conference to admit wrong
> doing.


+ 1

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 01:16PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> This is definitely our "Rome" moment. We have been
> heading this way for quite some time - and even
> though you don't want to hear it, a lot of it has
> to do with this moral relativism we have adopted
> as a society.
>


Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Though I will agree that when you have a society where everyone's views are valid, no matter how preposterous they are, and the victims and the infamous are given greater recognition and credit than those who have come by their positions through honest, hard work, we have a problem.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 01, 2009 01:35PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
> Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Though I will agree
> that when you have a society where everyone's
> views are valid, no matter how preposterous they
> are, and the victims and the infamous are given
> greater recognition and credit than those who have
> come by their positions through honest, hard work,
> we have a problem.

Thus, Moral Relativism.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 01:50PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Yeah, I don't want to hear it. Though I will
> agree
> > that when you have a society where everyone's
> > views are valid, no matter how preposterous
> they
> > are, and the victims and the infamous are given
> > greater recognition and credit than those who
> have
> > come by their positions through honest, hard
> work,
> > we have a problem.
>
> Thus, Moral Relativism.


The views aren't necessarily based on moral considerations. I'm talking about people claiming that Creationism is just as scientifically valid as Evolution. Bullshit.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 01, 2009 02:00PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The views aren't necessarily based on moral
> considerations. I'm talking about people claiming
> that Creationism is just as scientifically valid
> as Evolution. Bullshit.

Which has nothing to do with why your original point is valid.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 02:07PM

Registered Voter Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The views aren't necessarily based on moral
> > considerations. I'm talking about people
> claiming
> > that Creationism is just as scientifically
> valid
> > as Evolution. Bullshit.
>
> Which has nothing to do with why your original
> point is valid.


It has everything to do with it. I said I don't see it as an issue of moral relativism. If you want to argue that it is just relativism, that's fine. It's not just about ethics or morals. It's about everyone's ideas being treated as equal whether or not they deserve it.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: December 01, 2009 02:09PM

Burn it all down. Start over.

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Posted by: Registered Voter ()
Date: December 01, 2009 02:40PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Registered Voter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The views aren't necessarily based on moral
> > > considerations. I'm talking about people
> > claiming
> > > that Creationism is just as scientifically
> > valid
> > > as Evolution. Bullshit.
> >
> > Which has nothing to do with why your original
> > point is valid.
>
>
> It has everything to do with it. I said I don't
> see it as an issue of moral relativism. If you
> want to argue that it is just relativism, that's
> fine. It's not just about ethics or morals. It's
> about everyone's ideas being treated as equal
> whether or not they deserve it.


Moral relativism is the only reason these stupid ideas have sprouted in the first place. Thus in a world where "anything" can be interesting, they get more time to be observed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism

It makes no sense to report or investigate important issues when you can equally entertain and distract folks with issues that are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The more of this kind of BS we accept, the more that gets fed to us. And our kids today will be advanced to another step on the scale of this BS with things like Twitter, Facebook, and related content providers.

If you can’t model the past, where you know the answer pretty well, how can you model the future? - William Happer Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University

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Re: Our Society's Obsession with the Mundane
Date: December 01, 2009 04:29PM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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>
>
>
> On the Salahis front, this was obviously
> orchestrated by Bravo (which is owned by NBC).
> This shit happens, it's all over the news, Bravo
> then announces that the chick is in "The Real
> Housewives of DC" and the next thing you know
> NBC's Today Show has the exclusive. If the Senate
> really wants to get to the bottom of this, pull
> the management of Bravo and NBC into the hearing.

DCRTV says Gawker is on it...

NBC Implicated In WH State Dinner Crash Scandal - 12/1 - NBC-owned Bravo told Tareq and Michaele Salahi to crash the White House state dinner last week, so reports Gawker. The Northern Virginia couple have already signed a deal that prohibits them from talking to anyone but NBC, Gawker contends.....

I hope Jeff Zucker's ass finally gets tossed from NBC.

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